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    Quote Originally Posted by zeppman View Post
    The wife and I just put in an order for two Mayhems last night. 1 Small in Red and 1 XL in black. Both 5 star builds. We are so excited! We should have them in ~1.5 weeks.

    Have you guys put anything on your frames to protect the paint? I know it's a MTB and it's going to get beat up, but I'd like to keep the frame looking nice.
    Congrats!! I have been using this the last few years https://www.amazon.com/ISC-Racers-Ta...rs%2Btape&th=1. 2"x30' roll for $35 will do both bikes and have quite a bit left over. If you can find a full frame skin for the bike they are pretty nice but $100 on tape is a bit more than I wanted to pay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JasonL View Post
    Congrats!! I have been using this the last few years https://www.amazon.com/ISC-Racers-Ta...rs%2Btape&th=1. 2"x30' roll for $35 will do both bikes and have quite a bit left over. If you can find a full frame skin for the bike they are pretty nice but $100 on tape is a bit more than I wanted to pay.

    Awesome, thank you.

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    Hi all,
    First post on here. I've pretty much narrowed my search for a new bike down to the mayhem. I won't be able to do a test ride. I read through everything on here. It seems that picking the right size is key. I am just over 5'10". Inseam is just under 32". Would I be correct in going with a large? Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SrtKarter99 View Post
    Hi all,
    First post on here. I've pretty much narrowed my search for a new bike down to the mayhem. I won't be able to do a test ride. I read through everything on here. It seems that picking the right size is key. I am just over 5'10". Inseam is just under 32". Would I be correct in going with a large? Thanks.
    Yes, absolutely.

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    Might be the last ride before Hurricane Lane destroy the trails on the island. Btw its a med and I'm 5'6.5" in case someone is wondering.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SrtKarter99 View Post
    Hi all,
    First post on here. I've pretty much narrowed my search for a new bike down to the mayhem. I won't be able to do a test ride. I read through everything on here. It seems that picking the right size is key. I am just over 5'10". Inseam is just under 32". Would I be correct in going with a large? Thanks.
    I am 5'8" with 30" inseam and am on a medium Rollik. The spot bikes have a bit more tight cockpit than some of the other new bikes so I would imagine Large would be perfect for you. The medium fits me perfectly but I've also ridden a large and it didn't feel too big either

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    This may have already been posted, but pretty awesome Labor Day sale going on at Spot.
    https://spotbrand.com/collections/mo...nt=35707786828

    Considering the new Yeti SB130 is going to be $3800 just for the frame, the 4 Star Mayhem build for $4k is a ridiculous deal.
    Noticed the Rollik isn't on sale but the Mayhem is. Wonder if there is an update in the works?

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    i have XL mayhem for next few days, that my buddy let me ride while he is gone. i did a ride today, but boy this bike is harsh. i was wandering if somebody could help me set the shock up properly. it has fox dpx2 shock. when i rode the bike today, downhill was really uncomfortable, as it felt really harsh once it got rocky. shock was in open position the whole time, played with rebound but it didnt help much. at the end of the run i found out i used up all the travel even though there were no big hits or drops. i checked the pressure and got 160psi reading (knowing my shock pump, there was probably bit more psi in it). at this point i didnt know what to do, either lower the pressure and blow through travel even more easily or up the pressure and just live with stiff rear. i pumped it up to 185psi, which is roughly my riding weight. this resulted in rear end feeling like a hard tail. i did the same downhill run again, but only thing i solved was that i only went through maybe 85%-90% of travel. again no bigh hits or drops, just rocky descend. my friend mentioned that the bike feels stiff in general, but boy, after demoing ripmo 2 weeks back, this suspension felt really ridiculous.
    also another question for long time 29er owners (i am long time 650b guy), the bike (as well as ripmo)even though i am 6' 3", feels big in general, it felt sluggish on steep rocky technical climbs and was hard to get off the ground. is this typical for all 29ers? on the plus side i liked how it would pick up and carry the speed, but i dont think i am ready to sacrifice speed for fun.
    any advice appreciated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brankulo View Post
    i have XL mayhem for next few days, that my buddy let me ride while he is gone. i did a ride today, but boy this bike is harsh. i was wandering if somebody could help me set the shock up properly. it has fox dpx2 shock. when i rode the bike today, downhill was really uncomfortable, as it felt really harsh once it got rocky. shock was in open position the whole time, played with rebound but it didnt help much. at the end of the run i found out i used up all the travel even though there were no big hits or drops. i checked the pressure and got 160psi reading (knowing my shock pump, there was probably bit more psi in it). at this point i didnt know what to do, either lower the pressure and blow through travel even more easily or up the pressure and just live with stiff rear. i pumped it up to 185psi, which is roughly my riding weight. this resulted in rear end feeling like a hard tail. i did the same downhill run again, but only thing i solved was that i only went through maybe 85%-90% of travel. again no bigh hits or drops, just rocky descend. my friend mentioned that the bike feels stiff in general, but boy, after demoing ripmo 2 weeks back, this suspension felt really ridiculous.
    also another question for long time 29er owners (i am long time 650b guy), the bike (as well as ripmo)even though i am 6' 3", feels big in general, it felt sluggish on steep rocky technical climbs and was hard to get off the ground. is this typical for all 29ers? on the plus side i liked how it would pick up and carry the speed, but i dont think i am ready to sacrifice speed for fun.
    any advice appreciated.
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    Spot guys are awesome and should get you figured out real quick - dont hesitate to use the experts with more saddle time on this bike than anyone else!

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    Not Mavics carbon rims but I have a Intense Recluse Elite build and my Intense carbon rear wheel cracked on a ride and of course Intense wont warranty it. So I guess I'm in the same boat as you.

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    Anyone using 12speed on their mayhem? Does it change how the shock behaves at all?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dmo View Post
    Anyone using 12speed on their mayhem? Does it change how the shock behaves at all?

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    All I have ever used. In what way do you expect a change?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dmo View Post
    Anyone using 12speed on their mayhem? Does it change how the shock behaves at all?

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    12 speed here also. Running the DPX2 at the moment. Rides great but I don't think the 11 speed would change anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dmo View Post
    Anyone using 12speed on their mayhem? Does it change how the shock behaves at all?

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    Are you referring to something other than a 12 speed drivetrain?

    Otherwise, Iím not sure why the bike would be different at all between using a 10, 11 or 12-speed cassette. Is there something Iím missing?

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    Does having a bigger chainring contribute to more antisquat or is that not with this design of suspension?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dmo View Post
    Does having a bigger chainring contribute to more antisquat or is that not with this design of suspension?

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    I have eagle and i don't notice or feel any difference whichever cog its on.

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    Any TALL guys ( > 6í2Ē with looong) arms riding a Mayhem?

    I really like the looks and ride reports are great...but Iíve been going back and forth for over 6mos bc Iím worried about being cramped.

    I really dig the long bikes (like the Smuggler), but felt cramped on the 4.5c....and think Pivot should have went even bigger/longer reach on the new Trail429.

    I worry that, no matter how it rides, Iíll be uncomfortable....like they need an XXL.

    SO: any tall guys digging their Mayhem???

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    Iíve had guys up to 6í6Ē on our XL Mayhem and no one has ever complained about feeling cramped. It fits the tall guys better than any XL frame weíve had over the last three years.

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    Long time lurker. First post. Just placed my order today! I had asked a question, and got a reply on Sunday (Labor Day weekend) at 7:30pm. Definitely not getting that type of service from big companies!

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    Iím not in spots pro delivery network, Iím most likely going to assemble the bike myself. I know my way around a bike well enoug to be confident, but Iíve never built a bike ground up. Is the spot mostly pre assembled? Or should I plan on having to install all the components? Iím mostly concerned about The wheels. Should I expect Tru an tensioned wheels out of the box?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarbleNY View Post
    Should I expect Tru an tensioned wheels out of the box?
    I don't have personal experience with Spot yet, but assembling a bike from a reputable brand is simple, just keep a torque wrench handy to get proper nm on everything that needs fastening.

    Yes, wheels should be ready to rock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarbleNY View Post
    Iím not in spots pro delivery network, Iím most likely going to assemble the bike myself. I know my way around a bike well enoug to be confident, but Iíve never built a bike ground up. Is the spot mostly pre assembled? Or should I plan on having to install all the components? Iím mostly concerned about The wheels. Should I expect Tru an tensioned wheels out of the box?
    I received two spot mayhems in the mail on Friday. I had to attach the stem to the fork steerer tube, attach the derailleur, install the wheels, pump up the tires and add my pedals. Took about 30min per bike (Spot really wraps and packs the bike well so it takes a little time to unwrap everything). Derailleur was already tuned, shocks where setup by spot (I tweaked the settings slightly).

    Very easy to do yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zeppman View Post
    I received two spot mayhems in the mail on Friday. I had to attach the stem to the fork steerer tube, attach the derailleur, install the wheels, pump up the tires and add my pedals. Took about 30min per bike (Spot really wraps and packs the bike well so it takes a little time to unwrap everything). Derailleur was already tuned, shocks where setup by spot (I tweaked the settings slightly).

    Very easy to do yourself.
    Fantastic! Can't wait.

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    Who here went from the Rollik 557 to a Mayhem? Any compare / contrast observations?

    Love my 557 - but my steel 29er hardtail has been a bit of a revelation... kinda thinking if its a Rollik w 29er wheels - and those big wheel beni's - maybe worth a jump. If its a different beast all together?

    Im gonna throw the boys a call to demo - prob next week - but would be keen to gain some seat of pants experience from this forum!

    Cheers!

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    Quote Originally Posted by smartyiak View Post
    Any TALL guys ( > 6í2Ē with looong) arms riding a Mayhem?

    I really like the looks and ride reports are great...but Iíve been going back and forth for over 6mos bc Iím worried about being cramped.

    I really dig the long bikes (like the Smuggler), but felt cramped on the 4.5c....and think Pivot should have went even bigger/longer reach on the new Trail429.

    I worry that, no matter how it rides, Iíll be uncomfortable....like they need an XXL.

    SO: any tall guys digging their Mayhem???
    Hey, I'm 6'1'' but with long arms and long inseam (don't know arm length but i'm between 34'' and 34.5'' inseam.) I demoed the L mayhem in golden and felt cramped. I bought the XL, and while I only have 4 rides on it, it feels great. I have a 50mm stem on mine, and I think the Mayhem is supposed to come with a 60mm. I'm coming off of a L Ripley with a 80mm stem (which I felt cramped on).

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    Quote Originally Posted by zeppman View Post
    Hey, I'm 6'1'' but with long arms and long inseam (don't know arm length but i'm between 34'' and 34.5'' inseam.) I demoed the L mayhem in golden and felt cramped. I bought the XL, and while I only have 4 rides on it, it feels great. I have a 50mm stem on mine, and I think the Mayhem is supposed to come with a 60mm. I'm coming off of a L Ripley with a 80mm stem (which I felt cramped on).
    Thanks for the info. I demo'd an XL Ripley (whatever stem length is stock) and it felt too small.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smartyiak View Post
    Thanks for the info. I demo'd an XL Ripley (whatever stem length is stock) and it felt too small.
    OK, I'd recommend demoing before buying then. With my 50mm stem on the XL mayhem the reach was about the same as a L ripley with an 80mm stem.

    As others have stated, it's a bit of a different feel then other bikes given the steep seat tube angle.

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    My bike arrived today. Woohoo! I have to give a huge shout out to the spot team. There were some supply issues for some upgrade options (factory 36 and factory dpx2) because of higher than anticipated demand during their Labor Day sale.

    After some back and forth with some alternatives (Iím going to VT next weekend and really wanted the bike in time) they were able to pull a barely used fork and rear shock off a demo (if they didnít tell me it was from a demo, I wouldnít have known it wasnít new. Not a scuff), for a nice discount and send it out yesterday. They were able to next day it to me. So I got a 4 star build, with a factory 36 140mm, and factory dpx2 for $4100. They really want to take care of their customers.

    The bike arrived, packs perfectly. Sealant already in the tires. Just had to bolt on the stem to the headset, screw the derailer hanger to the frame, pop on the wheels, inflate the tires and fit the bike/dial in the suspension (still working on this).

    Of course it rained unexpectedly, but I did get out for a few minutes. This is the nicest bike Iíve owned by a long shot, but man... I didnít realize how peppy a bike could feel. Itís hard for me to explain. But it just feels fast. Iím hoping for some dry weather in the morning!

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    Congrats on the new ride MarbleNY. You wouldn't be headed to Kingdom Trails next weekend by chance? Just spent the weekend there and had a fantastic time. PM me if you want specifics on the trails.

    I rode with a local on Saturday that really knew the trail system (my first time there) and we hammered everything pretty hard. Never did I feel that the Mayhem was even close to it's limits. It's been said over and over, but this has to be one of the top climbing bikes out there..... not bad on the downs either!

    Again, congrats on the new ride. If you're headed to KT, be sure to park at the Tiki Bar. Tons of riders start their ride from here and the atmosphere is pure mountain biking bliss. Socializing with a cold beverage, or 2, after your ride is highly recommended as well!!

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    Wheel size recommendations

    There has been some discussion on this thread regarding the 27+ vs 29 setup. I just made the change and thought I'd give my impressions since reading through this helped me make my decision.

    I demoed the bike in a 29er setup and loved it, but I purchased the 27+ since it was the only model the LBS had left during a sale a year ago. For the sale price I could pick up a set of 29er wheels and still be money ahead. Turns out I had so much fun on the 27+ that I just rode that for the last year. I was surprised that I would like the 27+ so much be because I hated the setup in other bikes I demoed, particularly the Yeti. The 27+ tires gave me so much more confidence to try lines and drops that I had not ridden before, especially in loose, sketchy conditions. But with the increase speed I was carrying through rock gardens, I started smashing rims. When my original rear Mavic XA Elite 27+ rear wheel needed to be replaced, after reading the comments on here, I decided to give the Santa Cruz Reserve 30 29er's a try and set them up with Minion DHF front and Aggressor 2.3 rear with the Double Down casing (rear only). I wanted a setup that I could bomb through rock gardens without worrying about bending the rim beads like I had been doing with the 27+ setup.

    Uphill on Chimney Gulch in Golden (rocky and technical, slightly loose), my Strava times were nearly equal between the two wheel setups. Not surprisingly, I found the 27+ climbed better where traction was a factor and the 29 climbed better where roll over was the limiting factor. I was able to climb some of the more technical rocky sections much easier on the 29 setup. I could just standup and power over things that stopped me on my 27+ setup. But overall, I prefer the 27+ since it just grips and climbs like a tractor over everything but the most technical sections.

    Downhill on Enchanted Forest (swoopy fast dirt with roots and rock drops) and Apex Gut (sharp nasty rocks - where I blew up my 27+ setup) it was no comparison. The 29er set-up with the Reserve 30 wheels and DD rear tire blew the 27+ away. I felt like I was on rails carving through the dirt corners on the skinnier, higher pressure DHF/Aggressor combo. On Apex Gut, the higher pressure and better roll-over allowed me to plow through the sharp rocks in a way that I am certain would have destroyed another Mavic rim.

    So for me, the 29er set-up with Reserve rims and DHF 2.5/Aggressor 2.3 DD is the ticket I needed to survive the sharp rocks of the Golden area trails I like to ride. Much better roll over and higher pressure = less rim strikes. And given how much better it is at railing corners on tacky dirt, I can't wait to get it to places like Crested Butte.

    That being said; however, I love the 27+ setup on this bike too (I'm not sure why I like it on this bike but hated it on other like the Yeti. I'm thinking it has to do the stiffer rear triangle on the Spot. The Yeti plus bike just seemed very vague when cornering and would not hold.) I will be rebuilding my trashed rear wheel and swapping back and forth between the wheel sets. The 27+ is simply more fun when playing around on loose janky trails like Dakota Ridge where I want that extra degree of confidence to send bigger drops with sketchier landings.


    If you ride tacky dirt trails mostly, I would get the 29er set-up for the scalpel like precision.

    If you ride rocky, technical trails, it is a toss-up. 29er for speed and better roll-over. 27+ for tractor-like climbing and more cushy descending. 29er better on solid trails where roll-over is critical. 27+ better on loose trails where tractions is critical.

    If you ride like a hammerhead and bust rims, I would get the 29er. It seems checking tire pressure and adjusting for different conditions is much more critical with the 27+. I would need to run normal pressure on the climb to get the most out of the rubber, but then add air for the descent so I wouldn't get rim strikes. The 29er is more set-it and forget it and not as critical of 1 or 2 psi less than optimal.

    If you are just looking for a fun, confidence inspiring bike that will handle anything, but maybe not in the fastest time I would get the 27+ set-up. If you are wanting to tackle sections that you have previously walked, the 27+ set-up is a great option.

    Or just get both set-ups, since the bike is made for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blutzski View Post
    There has been some discussion on this thread regarding the 27+ vs 29 setup. I just made the change and thought I'd give my impressions since reading through this helped me make my decision.

    I demoed the bike in a 29er setup and loved it, but I purchased the 27+ since it was the only model the LBS had left during a sale a year ago. For the sale price I could pick up a set of 29er wheels and still be money ahead. Turns out I had so much fun on the 27+ that I just rode that for the last year. I was surprised that I would like the 27+ so much be because I hated the setup in other bikes I demoed, particularly the Yeti. The 27+ tires gave me so much more confidence to try lines and drops that I had not ridden before, especially in loose, sketchy conditions. But with the increase speed I was carrying through rock gardens, I started smashing rims. When my original rear Mavic XA Elite 27+ rear wheel needed to be replaced, after reading the comments on here, I decided to give the Santa Cruz Reserve 30 29er's a try and set them up with Minion DHF front and Aggressor 2.3 rear with the Double Down casing (rear only). I wanted a setup that I could bomb through rock gardens without worrying about bending the rim beads like I had been doing with the 27+ setup.

    Uphill on Chimney Gulch in Golden (rocky and technical, slightly loose), my Strava times were nearly equal between the two wheel setups. Not surprisingly, I found the 27+ climbed better where traction was a factor and the 29 climbed better where roll over was the limiting factor. I was able to climb some of the more technical rocky sections much easier on the 29 setup. I could just standup and power over things that stopped me on my 27+ setup. But overall, I prefer the 27+ since it just grips and climbs like a tractor over everything but the most technical sections.

    Downhill on Enchanted Forest (swoopy fast dirt with roots and rock drops) and Apex Gut (sharp nasty rocks - where I blew up my 27+ setup) it was no comparison. The 29er set-up with the Reserve 30 wheels and DD rear tire blew the 27+ away. I felt like I was on rails carving through the dirt corners on the skinnier, higher pressure DHF/Aggressor combo. On Apex Gut, the higher pressure and better roll-over allowed me to plow through the sharp rocks in a way that I am certain would have destroyed another Mavic rim.

    So for me, the 29er set-up with Reserve rims and DHF 2.5/Aggressor 2.3 DD is the ticket I needed to survive the sharp rocks of the Golden area trails I like to ride. Much better roll over and higher pressure = less rim strikes. And given how much better it is at railing corners on tacky dirt, I can't wait to get it to places like Crested Butte.


    That being said; however, I love the 27+ setup on this bike too (I'm not sure why I like it on this bike but hated it on other like the Yeti. I'm thinking it has to do the stiffer rear triangle on the Spot. The Yeti plus bike just seemed very vague when cornering and would not hold.) I will be rebuilding my trashed rear wheel and swapping back and forth between the wheel sets. The 27+ is simply more fun when playing around on loose janky trails like Dakota Ridge where I want that extra degree of confidence to send bigger drops with sketchier landings.
    What size plus tires are you running? I wonder if you'd enjoy the Rollik as much? I run 2.6 tires on my Rollik and absolutely love it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rmanalan View Post
    What size plus tires are you running? I wonder if you'd enjoy the Rollik as much? I run 2.6 tires on my Rollik and absolutely love it.

    I ran it wth the 2.8 Rekon+ that came stock. I haven't ridden the new Rollik 607 yet, but am looking forward to demoing one. I demoed the Rollik 557 and preferred the Mayhem, but the new Rollik looks awesome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rmanalan View Post
    What size plus tires are you running? I wonder if you'd enjoy the Rollik as much? I run 2.6 tires on my Rollik and absolutely love it.
    Which 2.6 tires are you running? I didn't like the nobby nic on the front it came with, not enough cornering traction. I put on a 2.6 butcher instead which I like a lot better, but definitely isn't a true 2.6 in that rim, maybe 2.4.

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    Quote Originally Posted by COBenG View Post
    Which 2.6 tires are you running? I didn't like the nobby nic on the front it came with, not enough cornering traction. I put on a 2.6 butcher instead which I like a lot better, but definitely isn't a true 2.6 in that rim, maybe 2.4.
    I'm running 2.6 and 2.6 Maxxis DHF and DHF 3c. Tons of grip and they don't seem possible to puncture but I'm thinking about going to do something smaller as I'm considering orientating myself toward XC rather than enduro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by COBenG View Post
    Which 2.6 tires are you running? I didn't like the nobby nic on the front it came with, not enough cornering traction. I put on a 2.6 butcher instead which I like a lot better, but definitely isn't a true 2.6 in that rim, maybe 2.4.
    I'm running Bontrager XR4 2.6 on the front and XR2 2.6 on the back. Liking the combo so far. I get a NICA discount on from Trek hence the Bontrager tires over more traditional Maxxis/Shwalbe, but in all honesty, I really like them... and actually the Bontragers tires are actually manufactured by Maxxis.

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    Just curious as to how long you had to wait for your Mayhem? I'm in northern California and ordered mine 10 day's ago but haven't really anything since. I'm anxious to get it because of all the great reviews I've read and I just broke my Intense Recluse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by intense tc View Post
    Just curious as to how long you had to wait for your Mayhem? I'm in northern California and ordered mine 10 day's ago but haven't really anything since. I'm anxious to get it because of all the great reviews I've read and I just broke my Intense Recluse.
    I ordered mine on the 31st. They said at the time probably 2 weeks due to high volume of Labor Day sale orders.

    I check my email every 5 minutes for a tracking #, I think that's supposed to help it arrive faster.

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    I'm in VA, ordered mine over labor day weekend, it was delivered to VeloFix last Thursday and they just delivered it on Tuesday. I have yet to be able to take it on the trails with all the rain we've been having. I hope you get to ride yours soon!
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    Quote Originally Posted by kpicha View Post
    I'm in VA, ordered mine over labor day weekend, it was delivered to VeloFix last Thursday and they just delivered it on Tuesday.
    Not fair!

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    Quote Originally Posted by smartyiak View Post
    Any TALL guys ( > 6í2Ē with looong) arms riding a Mayhem?

    I really like the looks and ride reports are great...but Iíve been going back and forth for over 6mos bc Iím worried about being cramped.

    I really dig the long bikes (like the Smuggler), but felt cramped on the 4.5c....and think Pivot should have went even bigger/longer reach on the new Trail429.

    I worry that, no matter how it rides, Iíll be uncomfortable....like they need an XXL.

    SO: any tall guys digging their Mayhem???
    YO I'm 6' 3", long arms (36" sleeve), circus like inseam at 37.5" riding an XL Mayhem that feels shortish in the cockpit compared to other bikes - but I love it! I get your liking of a stretched out cockpit as I have an XL Kona Wozo which is waaay longer cockpit than Mayhem and probably more so than most bikes. BUT, I quickly got used to the shortish feeling Mayhem cockpit and now prefer it over a stretched out one for the following reasons. First it climbs like a beast because of the steep seat tube which is where the shortish feeling comes from yet you quickly find this is such a superior climbing position for power and control. I now hate climbing anything steep on the stretched out Wozo even though it has a steep seat tube too as it does not feel as good. In fact I have tried to shorten the Wozo cockpit as much as possible to more closely replicate the feeling of the Mayhem. Secondly, the Mayhem cockpit is a non-issue descending as on the XL with the 175 dropper you can literally get the seat out of the way and move all over on the bike. When I do want to sit down descending I like how it puts me towards the front wheel so I can easily weight the front wheel and carve instead of that feeling I get from longer cockpits where the front wheel can't seem to get enough weight on it when the dropper seat is in use. The ONLY time I notice what feels to me like a cramped cockpit is on level ground where my hands feel more under me than out in front like on Wozo. As I ride in CO, its mostly up and down with not much flat riding so I really dig the Mayhem geometry. I'm also running a short stem (50mm hope +20 rise) so that tells you I'm not fighting what feels like a shorter cockpit by looking for a longer stem. Would I buy it again. Absolutely. Will you feel cramped? Probably - but you may end up realizing you like it. Best to demo it on the trails you want to ride. Hope this helps ya.

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    Ya I'm a little nervous about it. I waited more then 3 months for my Intense Recluse in a small. After 3 months they were still never able to produce a new one in a small and they ended up finding me a demo bike. I called Spot before I ordered it to make sure they had new smalls in stock and they said they had plenty of them. I'm guessing they are selling a little more then expected so there a little backed up. Patience, patience, patience something I'm not so good at.

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    Quote Originally Posted by intense tc View Post
    Ya I'm a little nervous about it. I waited more then 3 months for my Intense Recluse in a small. After 3 months they were still never able to produce a new one in a small and they ended up finding me a demo bike. I called Spot before I ordered it to make sure they had new smalls in stock and they said they had plenty of them. I'm guessing they are selling a little more then expected so there a little backed up. Patience, patience, patience something I'm not so good at.
    Hey, I placed an order, expected to have them in around a week (I may have misunderstood what was communicated to me), but got the bikes in about 2.5 weeks. Great company, good support, fantastic bikes, but due to their size I think sometimes they may struggle when things get busy? Just a guess, not complaining. Remember, I *think* they are company of like 6-8 guys.

    Both the wife and I got a Mayhem, and they were well worth the wait. I plan on writing up a little review here shortly after I get a few more rides in, but in short, we love them.

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    I got mine prettt quick from Labor Day sale, but they pulled the fork and shock off a demo bike. From what I understand some of the components were on back order. And Iím pretty sure a lot of the components come factory (China) direct so waiting on shipping and customs etc.

    The bike is awesome. I love that theyíre a small company. Iíd so much rather help smaller business when I can.

    Theyíre service Is great. Itíll be worth the wait, but they should communicate lead times on the website better. I think it says most bikes Arrive in 4 days which isnít the case.

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    Thanks for the replies. It's reassuring to get an idea of what to expect. I'll check with them again at the end of next week which will be day 19. Hopefully it will have shipped by then and I wont need to check again. Man it sucks being short. Allot of high end bike companies don't even make Mountain frames in a small.

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    What day did you order yours and what color? Maybe the color is the holdup b/c mine is a small, too; matte hot tomato, maybe the gray is low on stock? or maybe there's some part that they're out of. I ordered mine on Aug. 31. and it was shipped a few days, later.They were very communicative with the payment options and shipping info. so, I hope you hear something soon!
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    I heard there is a backup due to the Labor Day sale and waiting on the Fox 36 forks to come in.

    If you are worried, just call or email them. They were always responsive when I was ordering my Mayhem last month.

    On another note, has anyone swapped their stock Fox 34 with the new 36? I'm thinking about making the upgrade soon and wondering if I can DIY it or if I should have a shop do it. I've never swapped a fork, but it doesn't look too difficult unless you have to cut the top down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mc1620 View Post
    I heard there is a backup due to the Labor Day sale and waiting on the Fox 36 forks to come in.

    If you are worried, just call or email them. They were always responsive when I was ordering my Mayhem last month.

    On another note, has anyone swapped their stock Fox 34 with the new 36? I'm thinking about making the upgrade soon and wondering if I can DIY it or if I should have a shop do it. I've never swapped a fork, but it doesn't look too difficult unless you have to cut the top down.
    I didn't swap it for the 36, but I put a 140 Pike on mine and I absolutely love it. It's lighter than the Fox 36, and I think the Pike's characteristics are slightly more appropriate for the bike than the big-hit 36. I ride in the Colorado high country primarily (I live in Eagle, and ride all around the state) and I'd much rather have a smooth, progressive fork like the Pike than the Fox 36.

    I don't think it necessarily "transformed" the bike, but it definitely made it more fun and added to the capabilities. The Mayhem was already a kick-ass bike, but now it's even more so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smmokan View Post
    I didn't swap it for the 36, but I put a 140 Pike on mine and I absolutely love it. It's lighter than the Fox 36, and I think the Pike's characteristics are slightly more appropriate for the bike than the big-hit 36. I ride in the Colorado high country primarily (I live in Eagle, and ride all around the state) and I'd much rather have a smooth, progressive fork like the Pike than the Fox 36.

    I don't think it necessarily "transformed" the bike, but it definitely made it more fun and added to the capabilities. The Mayhem was already a kick-ass bike, but now it's even more so.
    I ride high country and front range also.

    How easy was it to swap out the for the Pike? Did you install yourself?

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    Yep, super easy. Youíll have to pull the crown race off the Fox and put it on the new fork, but thatís about it. It took 15 minutes.

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    Yaaahooo. Got word it shipped today. Hope to have it by the end of the week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by intense tc View Post
    Yaaahooo. Got word it shipped today. Hope to have it by the end of the week.
    That's great!! I finally got to ride mine yesterday and you'll love it! Especially climbing!!
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    So my wife and I have owned our Mayhems for about 3 weeks now and I figured I'd write up a little review, as I had appreciated what other rider's thoughts were previous to buying these bikes.

    I'm coming off a 2013 Ripley (size large, with 130mm pike) and my wife is coming off a 2012 SC Superlight 29er (size small). I first heard of the Mayhem off this thread a few months back, and had the chance to demo the Mayhems from Spot's facility in Golden while we were in Colorado on vacation in August. We live about an hour north of Chicago.

    Before demoing these bikes, I really had no intention of getting a new bike. Our vacation to Colorado was centered around mountain biking, and finding a new bike for my wife. Spot was our last stop on our "demo tour" before heading back home.

    Setting up a demo time was easy, and the Spot guys really took their time making sure the bikes were set up right for us. They recommended we ride the Apex trail in Golden which is just a few minutes from their office.

    Well the test ride had us sold. By the time we had gotten to the top of Apex before heading down the echanted forest trail, my wife goes, "no wonder they demo these for free, they sell themselves!" That was before we even got to descend on the bikes...

    So here's my summary of the bike. (To me) the bike is extremely stiff, especially the rear. My ripley felt like a wet noodle when I would really push it in turns and going down hill. I know since 2013 Ibis has made some changes so I can't compare it to the 2018 ripley. It's also firmer. When I first got on it and started to climb, it really didn't feel like the rear end of the bike was moving, yet it kept traction. Climbing is better on this bike then anything else I've tried. Going down is even better. It's stable, confidence inspiring, and took on everything with out issue, and feels in general that it will not struggle with anything that I would actually ride. Basically I've become the weak link, not the bike. Before the demo, I had ridden Apex before and it was challenging. The Mayhem felt like cheating.

    My one very minor complaint is that the Mayhem is not as "playful" as the Ripley, but that's to be expected. The Ripley is shorter, lighter and has a steeper heat tube angle, but to me there are more cons with that and I'll happily give up a little of the playfulness. The mayhem wants to barrel down hill while the ripley is a little more finicky in what lines you pick. However because of this, I'm finding myself picking harder, rougher/challenging lines back on my home trails with the mayhem. As someone said in this thread (can't find it now), the mayhem just does a better job at what the ripley does in climbing and descents.

    The frame construction seems to be high quality. I went with black and my wife went with red. Both colors are great. They have a protective material on the bottom of the down tube near the BB, and other places on the rear triangle to protect from the chain. We added 3M automotive tape in key areas for further protection.

    We went with the 5 star build, however our bikes came with Fox 36s with the 140mm upgrade. Not sure why Spot gave us 36s but I'm not complaining Really like the fork. Haven't decided if I like it more than my old Pike, but it's good.

    The Revive post is awesome. Hands down better than my old KS LEV. The build in bleed lever is genius. The post actuates so much easier than my KS, and returns quicker. Spot's choice on this post was a good one.

    The Stans wheels with Neo hubs seem fine. The hubs are louder compared to my DTSwiss 350s, for what it's worth. I seem to be developing some strange noise, possibly from the spokes when I really put some force on my cranks, but it's minor. Not sure if that's due to the wheels or drive train, but it sounds like a spoke. I did ride the Enve wheels when I demoed and they were stiffer, but I couldn't justify the cost (and riding around with something that says "ENVE")... sorry, hope I don't offend anyone with that comment. The Nobby Nics are good enough, better than what I expected. Enough grip for me that I won't change them out until they are worn.

    In my opinion the sram guide brakes are not as good as shimano. Just my opinion, and not meant to be a knock on Spot. I just feel like I have to pull so much harder on the Srams to get the same braking force as I did on my 2013 shimano XT brakes. The rotors just don't look as cool as the "ice" rotors too The Sram brakes work, and if you're not picky you probably will be happy with them (or even if you are picky), but in my opinion I prefer shimano.

    The 5 star build comes with eagle x01 derailleur and shifter, but NOT the x01 cassette (I think it's the GX?) Somewhat disappointed with that when I realized it, but again, that's my personal preference. My Ripley had a full X01 11 speed that I added to it in 2015 and that system just shifted and sounded so much better. I don't know if it's the gx cassette, or just going from 11 speeds to 12, but I'm not too crazy about the shifting and sound. It works, and having that huge cog in the back is very nice, but unless the chain is super clean it sounds like something is off in the back. I recently ordered the sram b-gap tool and will check the b-gap when it arrives. The shift from the 9/10/11 cog going up to an easier gear is not as smooth as I expected. On a frame that is nearly silent (especially compared to a creaking 2013 ripley) hearing a bit of what sounds like chain grind is slightly annoying. Again, this is extremely picky of me, I know, but just thought I'd point that out.

    Overall, we are both extremely happy with our new bikes. It was definitely a larger jump up for my wife, but even for me, coming from the ripley, I was super impressed.. so much so that I went from "my ibis is great, I don't need a new bike" to "must have!" The bikes are just fun, and Spot is really on to something with their living link system. To me it's superior to anything I've tried from the bigger, well known brands. I'm faster with this bike on my local trails than I was on my Ripley. My trails are what you'd expect for midwest riding. I can only assume I'd be faster on most trails vs the ripley.

    I'm not a professional reviewer, so sorry if I missed something. I'd be happy to answer any questions, so just let me know!

    Oh, and I should note: I ended up buying a XL even though I demoed a L. The large just felt little cramped. Spot was great in spending a lot of time on the phone with me after demoing (when I got home) in going through sizing questions, and actually having me provide certain measurements off my old bike. We settled on the XL and I'm glad I did. I'm a hair over 6' 1'', with a 34'' inseam. My arms are long.

    Edited to add: the Ripley was and still is a fantastic bike. It was my first "really nice" bike and ibis is also a fantastic company with great service. I was planning on eventually replacing my v1 og with another newer Ripley or ripmo until I tried the mayhem.
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    Got mine today! 5* with x01 cassette upgrade. Got it pretty much ready to roll.

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    The Mayhem continues to be the most popular bike on our Chasing Epic trips... here are a few shots from last weekend in Crested Butte:






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    Quote Originally Posted by zeppman View Post
    ....GREAT REVIEW.....

    Are the Mayhemís now coming with the carbon upper link standard?


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    I just joined the SPOT family, as a proud owner of a Large Mayhem. I got the 4* build, and originally ordered the upgrades to the DPX2 and Fox36. However, I worked with the guys when they were short on parts due to the Labor Day sale, and ended up getting my own fork (MRP Ribbon currently at 140mm) and they put on a Performance Elite DPX2 instead of the factory one. This actually keeps the entire bike blacked out, and looks great in my opinion. I also threw on a set of Enve M60/40 HVs that were on mega sale. I put Maxxis Rekon 2.4s front and back.
    The bike weighs in sub 30lbs.

    I did quite a bit of research before settling on this bike. Rode quite a few bikes, and really felt like most of them were too much for the type of riding that I do. What comes down, must go up first... and I have never had a problem with descending. Yeti SB5.5 and the Santa Cruz Hightower LT both felt very sluggish to me climbing. I liked the Intense Primer quite a bit for climbing, but didn't think it handled the descents well. I am coming off of a Giant Trance X 29er (I know this was an ugly bike, but I had it blinged out with full XTR, Factory suspension, etc., and has truly been a great trail bike for me through the years) Anyway, I pulled the trigger on the Mayhem sight unseen based on reviews like this, so I figured I'd add my thoughts to the mix.

    First impression: The bike felt weird. This is not uncommon based on other posts. The steep seat tube really makes the reach feel very short, or at least shorter than a bike with a slacker seat tube and same top tube length. I've been making micro adjustments such as sliding saddle back in the rails, dropped stem 5mm, etc., but honestly, now that I have a little over 100 miles on it, it feels really good. I think that first impression has as much to do with what you are used to, as it does the geometry of this bike.

    Climbing: as everyone states, this thing climbs great. No question, getting out of the saddle and hammering on the pedals results in quick and direct power transfer. It is pretty awesome. I also have noticed that the front end stays very planted on steep climbs. I'm sure this has to do with the STA, but it really doesn't wander much at all. I am not, however, getting PRs on all of my climbs as others have stated. I am not sure if I am used to 175mm cranks, and this has 170mm cranks, but I am not a fast cadence climber, I'd rather push a bigger gear and get more out of each pedal stroke. Does anyone think 5mm crank length would really make that much difference?

    Descending: It rolls downhill very nicely. This thing is not a bruiser, but much more of a carver. It likes to have fun, and is as playful a 29er as I have ridden. It initiates turns nicely, and now that I feel like I have the suspension dialed (mostly) it handles speed very well. No complaints here, but somehow still not hitting my PRs! I expect this will happen in due time, so I'm not going to stress over it! lol

    Suspension: This is the tricky part. I have read countless posts about how hard it is to get the suspension dialed in, and I will agree it is a process. I really feel like the MRP ribbon up front is a great option for anyone looking at a new fork. I have made some minor adjustments, but overall it feels great using their recommended settings. Using the 85% of weight method on the rear as recommended, the shock was blowing through most of the travel without hitting any major jumps or bumps. I checked, and the shock already has the .6 volume spacer. I have the LSC at 2 clicks from open. I upped the pressure to 90% of weight, and it is still using most of the travel, but feels pretty good to me now. I also have the rebound set pretty slow. Maybe it doesn't matter how much travel it is using, as long as I am not bottoming out? I guess it boils down to what type of suspension you are after in a bike. I do not feel like this is a plush bike by any means as I have it set. It does smooth out chatter, and handles jumps nicely, but it does allow you to feel the trail. I personally think this is a good thing.

    Other things: I took off the Vans grips, they are way to thin for my liking. I also upgraded the rear brake rotor to 180mm. I am not thrilled with the Guide R brakes, but they are growing on me. I am probably going to still play a little bit with bar height, stem length, stack, but I am having fun on the bike as is, and these things are becoming less of a priority as I get more used to the bike. Crank length is the only other thing I might toy with... eventually

    Overall, I was happy with my experience with the SPOT guys, and I feel like they are putting out a great product. With the exception of a couple minor things, their spec (even with the 4* kit) is really a great value for the dollar. See SPOT post to MTBR. See SPOT ride!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ebiagi View Post
    I just joined the SPOT family, as a proud owner of a Large Mayhem. I got the 4* build, and originally ordered the upgrades to the DPX2 and Fox36. However, I worked with the guys when they were short on parts due to the Labor Day sale, and ended up getting my own fork (MRP Ribbon currently at 140mm) and they put on a Performance Elite DPX2 instead of the factory one. This actually keeps the entire bike blacked out, and looks great in my opinion. I also threw on a set of Enve M60/40 HVs that were on mega sale. I put Maxxis Rekon 2.4s front and back.
    The bike weighs in sub 30lbs.

    I did quite a bit of research before settling on this bike. Rode quite a few bikes, and really felt like most of them were too much for the type of riding that I do. What comes down, must go up first... and I have never had a problem with descending. Yeti SB5.5 and the Santa Cruz Hightower LT both felt very sluggish to me climbing. I liked the Intense Primer quite a bit for climbing, but didn't think it handled the descents well. I am coming off of a Giant Trance X 29er (I know this was an ugly bike, but I had it blinged out with full XTR, Factory suspension, etc., and has truly been a great trail bike for me through the years) Anyway, I pulled the trigger on the Mayhem sight unseen based on reviews like this, so I figured I'd add my thoughts to the mix.

    First impression: The bike felt weird. This is not uncommon based on other posts. The steep seat tube really makes the reach feel very short, or at least shorter than a bike with a slacker seat tube and same top tube length. I've been making micro adjustments such as sliding saddle back in the rails, dropped stem 5mm, etc., but honestly, now that I have a little over 100 miles on it, it feels really good. I think that first impression has as much to do with what you are used to, as it does the geometry of this bike.

    Climbing: as everyone states, this thing climbs great. No question, getting out of the saddle and hammering on the pedals results in quick and direct power transfer. It is pretty awesome. I also have noticed that the front end stays very planted on steep climbs. I'm sure this has to do with the STA, but it really doesn't wander much at all. I am not, however, getting PRs on all of my climbs as others have stated. I am not sure if I am used to 175mm cranks, and this has 170mm cranks, but I am not a fast cadence climber, I'd rather push a bigger gear and get more out of each pedal stroke. Does anyone think 5mm crank length would really make that much difference?

    Descending: It rolls downhill very nicely. This thing is not a bruiser, but much more of a carver. It likes to have fun, and is as playful a 29er as I have ridden. It initiates turns nicely, and now that I feel like I have the suspension dialed (mostly) it handles speed very well. No complaints here, but somehow still not hitting my PRs! I expect this will happen in due time, so I'm not going to stress over it! lol

    Suspension: This is the tricky part. I have read countless posts about how hard it is to get the suspension dialed in, and I will agree it is a process. I really feel like the MRP ribbon up front is a great option for anyone looking at a new fork. I have made some minor adjustments, but overall it feels great using their recommended settings. Using the 85% of weight method on the rear as recommended, the shock was blowing through most of the travel without hitting any major jumps or bumps. I checked, and the shock already has the .6 volume spacer. I have the LSC at 2 clicks from open. I upped the pressure to 90% of weight, and it is still using most of the travel, but feels pretty good to me now. I also have the rebound set pretty slow. Maybe it doesn't matter how much travel it is using, as long as I am not bottoming out? I guess it boils down to what type of suspension you are after in a bike. I do not feel like this is a plush bike by any means as I have it set. It does smooth out chatter, and handles jumps nicely, but it does allow you to feel the trail. I personally think this is a good thing.

    Other things: I took off the Vans grips, they are way to thin for my liking. I also upgraded the rear brake rotor to 180mm. I am not thrilled with the Guide R brakes, but they are growing on me. I am probably going to still play a little bit with bar height, stem length, stack, but I am having fun on the bike as is, and these things are becoming less of a priority as I get more used to the bike. Crank length is the only other thing I might toy with... eventually

    Overall, I was happy with my experience with the SPOT guys, and I feel like they are putting out a great product. With the exception of a couple minor things, their spec (even with the 4* kit) is really a great value for the dollar. See SPOT post to MTBR. See SPOT ride!

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    Nice and complete write-up.

    As far as setup of the bars and stem, that will figure itself out Iver time. It's a preference thing and a feel thing. Yes the STA feels strange at first, but it will subside. I would work to get comfortable with the saddle position first, then work on the front. These steep seat tube angles are really designed to help when climbing, but they aren't perfect for flat pedaling. You will find a setting somewhere in the middle. You know you have when you are settled in the seat and not moving much between inclines.

    Sounds like you have the shock close. The suspension is digressive I think. Small bunp will be good. Pedal and mid will be firm and maybe feel harsher than you are used to. It is designed so you can hammer when pedaling, but does have some of the feedback over chattery stuff. Bigger hits will be plush. It's almost off feeling. I wouldn't overdo the pressure. Find the sump pump you like and adjust the deep compression with a spacer. The guys at Spot can help you.

    Can't comment on your PR times....

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    Iím sure someone who is running a DPX2 will chime in, but pretty sure the 85% of weight is specific to the stock DPS shock. Seem to recall most are running the DPX with quite a bit more pressure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ripn View Post
    Iím sure someone who is running a DPX2 will chime in, but pretty sure the 85% of weight is specific to the stock DPS shock. Seem to recall most are running the DPX with quite a bit more pressure.
    Yes you are right. I forgot about that. I have the dpx2 and I think about 110% but don't exactly remember.

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    On the DPX2 - I weigh 200 (210ish in gear) and have been happy @ 200 psi, 4 clicks out from full closed on rebound, compression full open 95% of timeÖ Iíll dial in one click if Iím in something really chunky.

    Curious as to what shock tune others are getting with their DPX2. Mine is DMFY, which Fox shows as the 2019 shock for the Rollik. DCSS seems to be the tune Fox shows for the Mayhem. Iíve asked Spot for clarification, but Iím not getting any response (sadly, kind of a theme for me post purchase).

    Iím happy with the performance of the shock as itís plusher than I had envisioned, but with Spotís recent mixing and matching of components to get bikes to their owners, one wonders if this explains the multiple set ups that owners have been dealing with.

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    Thanks, everyone for all of the feedback! It sounds like I should try bumping up the pressure in my DPX2 - I'll report back after my next ride to see what that does for the ride. As far as the tune on my shock goes, it is DJR3.

    Fox reports this as: 2018, FLOAT DPX2, P-Se, A, 3pos-Adj Evol LV, Spot Brand, Rollik, 7.875, 2.25, 0.6 Spacer, CM, RM, Rezi A F M, Standard Logo

    The DMFY code is: 2019, FLOAT DPX2, F-S, K, 3pos-Adj, Evol LV, Spot Brand, Rollik, 7.875, 2.25, 0.6 Spacer, CM, DRM, Rezi A F M, Orange Logo

    As long as there weren't any major changes between model years, the difference (other than one being Performance Elite and the other being Factory) is the Digressive Rebound Medium (DRM) vs just Rebound Medium (RM). I wonder if the digressive rebound really has that much of an impact on ride quality?

    I would agree, that there is a bunch of mixing and matching going on, so until we get the magic decoder ring, all we can do is keep riding and experimenting, right?

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    I've been thinking about upgrading to a DPX2 so I emailed Spot to enquire about shock tunes. They said the custom tune is the best (obviously) but just about any tune with medium rebound and compression tuning will work fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ripn View Post
    I've been thinking about upgrading to a DPX2 so I emailed Spot to enquire about shock tunes. They said the custom tune is the best (obviously) but just about any tune with medium rebound and compression tuning will work fine.
    For what it's worth, I didn't find a DPX2 to positively change the behavior of the bike at all. I actually prefer the Mayhem with the "stock" DPS Evol. To me, the bike felt livelier and more responsive with the DPS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smmokan View Post
    For what it's worth, I didn't find a DPX2 to positively change the behavior of the bike at all. I actually prefer the Mayhem with the "stock" DPS Evol. To me, the bike felt livelier and more responsive with the DPS.
    That's interesting. I don't hate the DPS, (I have the Performance version) just finding it gets a little overwhelmed on higher speed successive hits. Thought the extra oil volume might help with that. Also wouldn't mind having the adjustable low speed compression. That said, don't want to lose the poppy, playful nature of the bike.


    As far as suspension setup, I would agree it tends to be more finicky than on other bikes I've owned. A couple of psi either way can make a pretty substantial difference in suspension feel. Too much and it feels almost locked out. With the firm mid stroke support offered by the leaf spring, if you run too little you will be deep into that and actually lose some of the suppleness off the top. I'm about 190lbs geared up to ride with a full camelbak. 85% puts me at about 162 psi. I've experimented with pressures 5 psi higher and lower and found right at 160 seems to be the sweet spot for me. It's worth spending the extra time to fiddle with pressure to find the right setup for your riding style/terrain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ripn View Post
    That's interesting. I don't hate the DPS, (I have the Performance version) just finding it gets a little overwhelmed on higher speed successive hits. Thought the extra oil volume might help with that. Also wouldn't mind having the adjustable low speed compression. That said, don't want to lose the poppy, playful nature of the bike.


    As far as suspension setup, I would agree it tends to be more finicky than on other bikes I've owned. A couple of psi either way can make a pretty substantial difference in suspension feel. Too much and it feels almost locked out. With the firm mid stroke support offered by the leaf spring, if you run too little you will be deep into that and actually lose some of the suppleness off the top. I'm about 190lbs geared up to ride with a full camelbak. 85% puts me at about 162 psi. I've experimented with pressures 5 psi higher and lower and found right at 160 seems to be the sweet spot for me. It's worth spending the extra time to fiddle with pressure to find the right setup for your riding style/terrain.
    In my case, the DPX2 was much better. Superior all around.

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    Hey Everyone,

    I just got back from my first mountain bike trip with the Mayhem over the weekend. A buddy and I went to Brown County State Park in Indiana (some of the best riding in the midwest, although I know it doesn't compare to what some of you lucky guys get to ride out in the Rockies or west coast).

    The bike was, as expected, a blast to ride. It climbed and descended amazingly well, and handled the twists and turns you expect from midwest riding very well. I had a ton of fun. We make the trip to this trail system once a year, and this year I was able to clear things I haven't been able to int he past, and overall felt a lot faster (and not as tired at the end of the rides). It was also fun talking to guys who've never seen a Mayhem.

    However, after 3 days of 5ish hour rides, I've got the following questions for you other Mayhem owners.

    1) the ODI Van grips. Are these "thinner" than standard grips? My hands seemed to get a lot more fatigued and am considering throwing some different grips on the bike. My previous bike had the lizard skin Peaty grips. However the hand fatigue may come down to a different issue... the brakes.

    2) I don't know if there is something off with my SRAM Guide brakes or this is just... how they are? They are extremely spongy. Well I'm not sure if spongy is the right word but my problem is I really have to pull them hard to get the bike to stop. In fact the levers practically hit the grips (and my other fingers) for me to get the same kind of force my shimano XT brakes would provide. Is there a way to adjust this? I've tried playing with the contact adjustment, which seemed to do little. I realize I can really dial out the reach adjustment to help with this, but then the levers are so far away from the bars that it just gets more and more difficult to grab with my index finger (which probably factors into my hand fatigue). Basically the sram lever has to move a lot more compared to the shimano brakes to provide the same amount of stopping force. Any tips to make these... more "shimano like" in feel... without buying shimanos? I've thought maybe a bleed is needed, but I don't even think I have more than 30 hours on these brakes yet.

    3) The eagle drive train is very noisy, and I don't know how to fix it. The limits are fine, the indexing seems on, the bike shifts great across the entire range, up and down. I bought the sram b-gap tool, and had my buddy who's about the same weight sit on the bike while adjusting it. I've cleaned the chain, cassette, jockey wheels, chain ring, and lubed it with rock and roll yellow lube. I don't have reason to believe the hanger is bent as shifting is fine (and I haven't crashed or done anything that I'm aware of to bend the hanger). Even after all of this, the chain just sounds like it is grinding a bit. I understand it won't be silent when riding, but compared to my previous 1x11 x01, this setup is noisy. Minor problem I know, but on a near brand new drive train I expected better. Anyone else run into this?

    Anyway, minor component issues on an otherwise solid bike. Thanks in advanced for any suggestions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zeppman View Post
    Hey Everyone,

    I just got back from my first mountain bike trip with the Mayhem over the weekend. A buddy and I went to Brown County State Park in Indiana (some of the best riding in the midwest, although I know it doesn't compare to what some of you lucky guys get to ride out in the Rockies or west coast).

    The bike was, as expected, a blast to ride. It climbed and descended amazingly well, and handled the twists and turns you expect from midwest riding very well. I had a ton of fun. We make the trip to this trail system once a year, and this year I was able to clear things I haven't been able to int he past, and overall felt a lot faster (and not as tired at the end of the rides). It was also fun talking to guys who've never seen a Mayhem.

    However, after 3 days of 5ish hour rides, I've got the following questions for you other Mayhem owners.

    1) the ODI Van grips. Are these "thinner" than standard grips? My hands seemed to get a lot more fatigued and am considering throwing some different grips on the bike. My previous bike had the lizard skin Peaty grips. However the hand fatigue may come down to a different issue... the brakes.

    2) I don't know if there is something off with my SRAM Guide brakes or this is just... how they are? They are extremely spongy. Well I'm not sure if spongy is the right word but my problem is I really have to pull them hard to get the bike to stop. In fact the levers practically hit the grips (and my other fingers) for me to get the same kind of force my shimano XT brakes would provide. Is there a way to adjust this? I've tried playing with the contact adjustment, which seemed to do little. I realize I can really dial out the reach adjustment to help with this, but then the levers are so far away from the bars that it just gets more and more difficult to grab with my index finger (which probably factors into my hand fatigue). Basically the sram lever has to move a lot more compared to the shimano brakes to provide the same amount of stopping force. Any tips to make these... more "shimano like" in feel... without buying shimanos? I've thought maybe a bleed is needed, but I don't even think I have more than 30 hours on these brakes yet.

    3) The eagle drive train is very noisy, and I don't know how to fix it. The limits are fine, the indexing seems on, the bike shifts great across the entire range, up and down. I bought the sram b-gap tool, and had my buddy who's about the same weight sit on the bike while adjusting it. I've cleaned the chain, cassette, jockey wheels, chain ring, and lubed it with rock and roll yellow lube. I don't have reason to believe the hanger is bent as shifting is fine (and I haven't crashed or done anything that I'm aware of to bend the hanger). Even after all of this, the chain just sounds like it is grinding a bit. I understand it won't be silent when riding, but compared to my previous 1x11 x01, this setup is noisy. Minor problem I know, but on a near brand new drive train I expected better. Anyone else run into this?

    Anyway, minor component issues on an otherwise solid bike. Thanks in advanced for any suggestions.
    1) grips are a personal thing. If you want to stick with lock-ons the Deity Knuckledusters are the most comfortable that I found. I still prefer Red Monkey or ESI silicone for everything.

    2) I agree 100% on the Guides, had multiple sets on different bike. I just couldn't get use to the feel and always felt like i had to pull way harder to get equal stopping power to my XT's, which lead to hand fatigue on long descents.

    3) Don't have eagle on my Mayhem, but on my last two bikes I did and it was almost eerie how silent the drivetrain was. Double check hi/low limits and derailleur hanger to start. If your not using an eagle chain ring it might add a little noise but I can't imagine it would be all that much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zeppman View Post
    Hey Everyone,


    3) The eagle drive train is very noisy, and I don't know how to fix it. The limits are fine, the indexing seems on, the bike shifts great across the entire range, up and down. I bought the sram b-gap tool, and had my buddy who's about the same weight sit on the bike while adjusting it. I've cleaned the chain, cassette, jockey wheels, chain ring, and lubed it with rock and roll yellow lube. I don't have reason to believe the hanger is bent as shifting is fine (and I haven't crashed or done anything that I'm aware of to bend the hanger). Even after all of this, the chain just sounds like it is grinding a bit. I understand it won't be silent when riding, but compared to my previous 1x11 x01, this setup is noisy. Minor problem I know, but on a near brand new drive train I expected better. Anyone else run into this?

    So it appears it was not the drive train after all. Per Spot's recommendation, I removed, cleaned and re-greased the cassette and free hub body. I also decided to remove the RD, and hanger, and cleaned them up and put a light coating of grease where the hanger makes contact to the frame. This appears to have fixed the problem.

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    SPOT Brand MAYHEM 29

    Just approaching 1000 miles on my Mayhem since I purchased it this spring and figure its time for a full review.

    About me:
    40 something suburban dad. 5í11Ē about 190lbs with a full camelback and ready to ride. Been riding mountain bikes since the early 90ís. Iím in Northern California (Sacramento area) so rides encompass everything from smooth rolling xc style trails near my house, to rocky, steep, technical terrain around Tahoe and the Sierra. I typically ride 3-4 days a week year round.
    Riding style is moderately aggressive on trials I know well, but typically end up middle of the pack both up and downhill.

    Previous bikes:
    Iíve owned or demoed most current suspension designs on the market. Prefer the feel of DW link bikes over VPPís and horst links. Most recent bike was an OG Ibis Ripley that I loved, but wanted something a little burlier.

    The Mayhem:
    4 star build with the Fox 36 upgrade. Added my carbon Roval Fattie 29er wheels from my Ripley, a Race Face carbon handlebar and installed some X01 carbon cranks I had from a previous bike. Initially wasnít very happy with the performance of the Fox 36 so added a new 150mm air spring with a Vorsprung Luftkappe installed. Havenít weighed it recently but believe its around 29lbs.

    As others have mentioned initial setup took some time. This is my first bike with such a steep seat tube so it felt pretty weird at first. Played around with seat position and stems and settled on a 70mm stem and the seat a few mm back from centered. Feels great now.

    The suspension also took some trial and error. I started with Spots recommendation for my DPS at 85% of my riding weight and experimented from there. When it comes to rear suspension Iím typically a set it and forget it kind of rider. That said, I did find the Living Link on the Mayhem was far more sensitive to small changes in pressure than other bikes Iíve owned. A couple of psi either way was noticeable, even to me. A little too much and it gets REALLY firm. If you err on the softer side, the bike will sag into the firm mid stroke and lose the suppleness off the top. In the end I settled just slightly under Spots recommended pressure for my weight which seems to hit the sweet spot.

    Iíve been around mountain biking long enough not to buy into the ďclimbs like a hardtail, descends like a DH bikeĒ marketing BS that accompanies every new bike release. That said, this bike gets closer than most others. When the shock is set up correctly, the suspension has good small bump compliance, a very firm pedaling platform and a pretty plush bottom.

    Uphill the bike just motors. Obviously youíll never mistake it for a 24lbs xc bike, but for what it is, it does great on smoother climbs. Where the bike really excels however, is on technical, ledgy stuff. The kind of trails that require a front wheel lift and some body english. The rear end just doesnít get hung up. If you can keep pedaling, it will keep going. Iíve read some reviews that complain about a lack of traction on loose climbs. While it might not be quite as good as some horst link bikes Iíve ridden, it hasnít been an issue for me and itís at least as good as my old Ripley.

    On the downs, it just rips. The frame is very stiff laterally and the bike will go where you point it. The firm mid stroke in the suspension gives a nice platform to push off when jumping and popping out of corners. If you prefer to hang off the back and plow though stuff there are better bikes out there for that. Riding with an aggressive, active style is what this bike calls for. Instead of plowing through a rock garden, it would rather pop of the first rock and fly over the rest.

    Other notes:
    The red paint has been impressively durable. Outside of a few scuffs the bike looks nearly new. It also has to be the quietest bike Iíve ever owned. Even after a thousand miles of hard riding in every possible weather condition, not so much as a squeak out of the frame.

    Downsides:
    The frame is not light. My large frame was a bit over 7lbs. Many other bikes in this category are a half to a full pound lighter. I wouldnít want to trade the frame stiffness for a few ounces, but think Spot could do better.
    For a bike with such a steep seat tube the top tube could be longer. 24Ē is pretty conservative on bikes with ďnormalĒ seat angles but add a couple of degrees and the top tube feels short. Would love to see at least another .5".
    Speaking of lengthÖa 19Ē seat tube is pretty old school. I had to downsize to a 125mm dropper post to make it work.

    Overall the Mayhem is a damn fine bike. Climbs well, descends well, has a stiff, good looking frame and an innovative suspension design. Lots of great bikes on the market these days and this Spot is among the best.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ripn View Post
    Just approaching 1000 miles on my Mayhem since I purchased it this spring and figure its time for a full review...........
    Excellent review and I couldn't agree more with everything you said across the board, top to bottom. I love my Mayhem so much it's now my only full squish bike. I just sold my Hightower this past week. With the 140 Ribbon out front and the DPX2 in the rear it's the perfect CO trail smasher. The one place I did prefer the Hightower to the Mayhem was the bike park. The park really isn't the Mayhem's strong suit, but then again it was never intended to be that type of bike anyway. For me the only bike out there right now that I would consider replacing the Mayhem with is a Ripmo. Mainly because I'm going down to a one quiver full susp bike and the Ripmo would be better suited for those park days and I've always loved the way Ibis bikes ride (great allrounders exactly like the Mayhem). Hopefully there is a Mayhem LT on the horizon that would solve the bike park issue!

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    Quote Originally Posted by smmokan View Post
    For what it's worth, I didn't find a DPX2 to positively change the behavior of the bike at all. I actually prefer the Mayhem with the "stock" DPS Evol. To me, the bike felt livelier and more responsive with the DPS.
    same here. i dont own mayhem but had one borrowed for 2 weeks and did several demos from spot. last demo had dpx2 and 140mm fox 36. i didnt like the setup. it just felt too sluggish. but of course its is 29er so everything 29 feels that way when ridden after my hd3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MSH View Post
    Excellent review and I couldn't agree more with everything you said across the board, top to bottom. I love my Mayhem so much it's now my only full squish bike. I just sold my Hightower this past week. With the 140 Ribbon out front and the DPX2 in the rear it's the perfect CO trail smasher. The one place I did prefer the Hightower to the Mayhem was the bike park. The park really isn't the Mayhem's strong suit, but then again it was never intended to be that type of bike anyway. For me the only bike out there right now that I would consider replacing the Mayhem with is a Ripmo. Mainly because I'm going down to a one quiver full susp bike and the Ripmo would be better suited for those park days and I've always loved the way Ibis bikes ride (great allrounders exactly like the Mayhem). Hopefully there is a Mayhem LT on the horizon that would solve the bike park issue!

    I actually inquired with Spot on the chance of a longer travel Mayhem. They didn't tell me much (obviously) but sounds like something like that may be in the works. Have to say a 150 or 160mm 29er Living Link bike makes me feel a little weak in the knees.

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    Also wanted to add I have also spent some time (couple hundred miles) with the Mayhem in 27.5+ mode as well. While 29er wheels are faster and I generally prefer them, the plus setup on this bike is stupid fun. So much traction!

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    Ive had my Mayhem about a year now. I have it set up with a 140mm pike and a X2 shock. I started out with 27.5+ wheels but really ended up preferring 29er wheels and kept it that way. I love my Mayhem. It climbs very well and descends great too. Super stiff too. I feel super comfortable on this bike.

    Anyway, with the recent release of the SB130 has anyone had an opportunity to try one? I used to own a yeti (SB95) that I sold recently becuase i just wanted to ride my Mayhem all the time. I cant imagine the Mayhem gives up much if anything at all to the current Yetis unless youve always wanted a turqoise bike. I still have my Yeti sweatshirt and gear bag but Ill stick with my Tomato Red (cool color btw) Mayhem.

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    SPOT Brand MAYHEM 29

    If anyone's interested, our demo Mayhems are for sale... I'll be posting more info next week when I'm back in town. We have one medium and two larges:

    Large Red: 5-star build w/ Flow MK3 wheels, $3500

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    Anyone have frame weight data on the Spot Mayhem and/or Rollik 607?

    I'm looking to build up a large sized frame with 27.5+ wheels for technical, rocky trails here in Arizona. I like the sound of 6" travel on the Rollik and it also sounds like it's a bit more playful and snappy than the Mayhem. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluegill View Post
    Anyone have frame weight data on the Spot Mayhem and/or Rollik 607?

    I'm looking to build up a large sized frame with 27.5+ wheels for technical, rocky trails here in Arizona. I like the sound of 6" travel on the Rollik and it also sounds like it's a bit more playful and snappy than the Mayhem. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
    Iím in AZ also. Can I ask why 27.5+? I bought a Ibis Mojo 3 last year thinking it would be the ticket for the loose and rocky stuff here, and just couldnít get along with it. Itís not a plus thing because I had a Trek Stache (29+) for close to a year and it was one of the best bikes I have ever ridden. I havenít ridden a Rollik. The mayhem with 29s does everything better than 27.5+ did in my experience. Rollik might be a touch more playful but definitely not as snappy as the Mayhem. I still think the Mayhem is the best pedaling bike I have ever ridden, better than DW and the VP bikes. Hope that helps a little.


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    My size L Rollik 607 frame is a portly 7+ lbs. I read somewhere that the Rollik and Mayhem share the same front triangle, but haven't confirmed it. If that's true the Mayhem probably weighs about the same.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bluegill View Post
    Anyone have frame weight data on the Spot Mayhem and/or Rollik 607?

    I'm looking to build up a large sized frame with 27.5+ wheels for technical, rocky trails here in Arizona. I like the sound of 6" travel on the Rollik and it also sounds like it's a bit more playful and snappy than the Mayhem. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

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    My Large red Mayhem was a bit over 7lbs. I'd imagine the Rollik would be in the same ballpark.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ripn View Post
    My Large red Mayhem was a bit over 7lbs. I'd imagine the Rollik would be in the same ballpark.
    Large Red Mayhem w/ dropper housing already installed when I picked up from Spot = 3324g on my gram scale (w/ DPS Evol, axle, seat collar). So if you subtract a bit for dropper housing you are at ~7.25lbs for the frame. I added a DPX2 not long after which adds another 200 grams-ish. So you are at roughly 7.65 lbs if you opt for the DPX2.

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    Wow, that's a heavy frame....especially for 130mm travel. I've been looking at Intense frames as well and the Primer comes in at only 6 lbs. Even the 165mm Tracer comes in at only 6 lbs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JasonL View Post
    Iím in AZ also. Can I ask why 27.5+? I bought a Ibis Mojo 3 last year thinking it would be the ticket for the loose and rocky stuff here, and just couldnít get along with it. Itís not a plus thing because I had a Trek Stache (29+) for close to a year and it was one of the best bikes I have ever ridden. I havenít ridden a Rollik. The mayhem with 29s does everything better than 27.5+ did in my experience. Rollik might be a touch more playful but definitely not as snappy as the Mayhem. I still think the Mayhem is the best pedaling bike I have ever ridden, better than DW and the VP bikes. Hope that helps a little.
    I would like to try bigger tires (2.5, 2.6, maybe even 2.8) with the my logic being that bigger tires, more tread, more cushion will help with traction (particularly climbing) and rolling over rocky obstacles.

    I've just gotten back into mountain biking after a good 10+ years out of the scene. I've spent this year building up my relic 1998 Cannondale Super V 26er with all new components and I'm really enjoying the ride. I like light weight and responsive handling so very slack HT angles and long wheelbase 29's might not be for me. I figure 27.5 might be a good next step. I'm also become a bit of a weight weenie and I really don't like the idea of 10+ lb wheels & tires. I'm also not eager to spend big $$$ on carbon wheels that I'll probably break on the rocks. Right now my Stan's MK3 Arch 26" wheels with tubes, XT hubs, XTR discs, and 2.2 Continental Race Kings weigh in at about 9 lbs. I've just converted the rear to tubeless and saved over 150g right there with very judicious use of sealant. Will convert the front to tubeless and then re-weigh everything. So far I've dropped my Super V a bit over 5 lbs from 31.x to 25.x lbs and it's made a huge difference. Today I'll be putting on some titanium bolts that I've recently picked up (the weight weenie stuff can be addicting).

    All that being said, these Spot frames are very interesting. I just wish they were a good pound lighter as a starting point. My Super V bare frame with the Headshok HT bearings weighs in at 2860g or 6.31 lbs with no shock, plus another half pound with my Fox Float rear shock.

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    The frames for Spot maybe heavier than some others you dont notice it. In fact the bike climbs like a rocket. It is also super stiff and doesnt get knocked off lines. I would take the Mayhem over other bikes ive owned recently. Unless youre racing XC then get a 100mm bike

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    Quote Originally Posted by dmo View Post
    The frames for Spot maybe heavier than some others you dont notice it. In fact the bike climbs like a rocket. It is also super stiff and doesnt get knocked off lines. I would take the Mayhem over other bikes ive owned recently. Unless youre racing XC then get a 100mm bike
    This seems to be the general opinion of this bike. It's definitely on my radar now.

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    My old aluminum Stumpy weighs 31 lbs and my Mayhem tad over 30 .But under me, Mayhem feels alot lighter.

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    Loving my mayhem. I've got a rollik 607 as well, and they're both a blast. Depending on the trail, I'll reach for one over the other.

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    I am now thinking for my riding style and where i ride...lots of loamy, redwood covered trails...that the mayhem would be a good fit. I was assuming i'd be a medium...i'm 5'9" with a 30 inch inseam....seems like i'd be borderline between medium and large?

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    my current bike is a 2016 trek fuel 9.8 29er....i'm looking for somehting that is more confidence inspiring on steep downhills. and i actually am not super impressed witht the way the trek climbs, it wanders a lot. it obviously could be technique, but it seems that the steeper seat anlge and slacker head angle will improve the ups and downs?
    I'd likely go with the 140 36 up front....

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    Quote Originally Posted by mappy View Post
    my current bike is a 2016 trek fuel 9.8 29er....i'm looking for somehting that is more confidence inspiring on steep downhills. and i actually am not super impressed witht the way the trek climbs, it wanders a lot. it obviously could be technique, but it seems that the steeper seat anlge and slacker head angle will improve the ups and downs?
    I'd likely go with the 140 36 up front....
    I had a 2016 Fuel also. The Mayhem out climbs and descends that bike by a good margin. That being said my 16 Fuel 9.9 was still one of my favorite bikes. I have a 140 34 on my Mayhem and I does really well going down, the 36 probably makes it even more confident inspiring.

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    A slacker head angle will cause more wander when climbing, but help on the downhills. In my opinion, nothing climbs better than a mayhem.

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    I recently got an Orbea Rallon and with a 65.5 head angle climbs pretty damn well. Almost as good as the Mayhem. Ill stick with the mayhem if i just want to keep motoring. The Rallon is more of a play bike

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    Quote Originally Posted by dmo View Post
    The frames for Spot maybe heavier than some others you dont notice it. In fact the bike climbs like a rocket. It is also super stiff and doesnt get knocked off lines. I would take the Mayhem over other bikes ive owned recently. Unless youre racing XC then get a 100mm bik

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    hoping to test drive one soon, dont mind the extra weight if climbing is rocket like

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    For what it's worth, i like the mayhem a lot more than the hightower. Its easier for me to manual, bunny hop, and slash corners. I prefer the way it climbs too. To me, the hightower just felt a little dead and glued to the ground. The mayhem feels lighter on its feet than a hightower to me
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    Quote Originally Posted by sixstringsteve View Post
    For what it's worth, i like the mayhem a lot more than the hightower. Its easier for me to manual, bunny hop, and slash corners. I prefer the way it climbs too. To me, tge hightower just felt a little dead and glued to the ground. The mayhem feels lighter on ots feet than a hightower to me
    Absolutely agree with this. Demoed both the Hightower and the LT. Felt pretty ďmehĒ about both of them. Not bad bikes, and lots of people love them, but not the right bikes for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smmokan View Post
    If anyone's interested, our demo Mayhems are for sale... I'll be posting more info next week when I'm back in town. We have one medium and two larges:

    Large Red: 5-star build w/ Flow MK3 wheels, $3500
    Update... all that's left is one large 5-Star build. It's in awesome shape with only a few small, light scratches.

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    That's a smmokan deal! Haha, i couldnt resist. But seriously, that is a good deal.

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    Hey guys. What is your opinion on sizing? I demo'ed a XL Mayhem at Outerbike because they didn't have a L and it felt surprisingly great. I am 6'1", 215lbs and have owned 3 Specialized size L and A Cannondale Habit and Trigger in Large and they always felt perfect sizing. I know that I am between sizes, but typically like the greater control that I get with being on the smaller side of that middle. But, with the steeper seat angle and finicky cockpit setup that I have been reading about here, I was wondering if Mayhem owners had some thoughts / opinions. I have been riding for 25+ years and fairly ride agressive.

    Thanks!

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    I hope i can help. Im in the same boat, but between a small and a medium. In my opinion, specialized sizes run small (a medium fits like a small in other brands, etc.).

    I have a small rollik and a medium mayhem (same front triangle between the rollik and the mayhe.) Both are totally rideable to me, but i think i prefer the medium. They both feel greatx and the small one is a bit easirr to throw around and change directions, but the medium charges a little bit harder. I typically dont recommend sizing up on bikes, but these bikes are really balanced. While larger bikes are more stable for plowing and high speeds, they often lose a lot of playfulness to me (except in this case).

    Here's what I've learned. Lowering the bars on a bike makes them feel even smaller. I swapped a firk on my rollik and it had a short steer tube, so i cant run any spacers ubder the stem. This made the front triangle feel way shorter. Ive gotten used to it, and i can whip it around super easily, but i liked the feel of taller bars before. Also, even though we all love short stems now, running a 50-60mm stem on my small isnt a bad thing

    As long as the xl didnt feel cumbersome, hard to change directions, hard to jump, etc., i say go for it (and i typically never reckmmend sizing up, but it works in this case). Im not sure about the reach differences betwren a L and an XL, but medium and small are vlose enough that i cN gst close with a stem swap.

    Was there anything you didn't like about how the XL felt? Do you tend tonkeepmyour wheels on the geound as much as possible, or do you want to manual, jump, and hop around as much as possible?

    For me the larger frame hits manicured junos better, but the smaller frame is easier to get airborne on little natural roots and rocks. The smaller is also easier to bunny hop and manual (but that could be due to the nature of the rollik vs mayhem)

    For the record, i ride a size med specialized, a size small bronson, and a small pivot. Hope this helps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sixstringsteve View Post
    Was there anything you didn't like about how the XL felt? Do you tend tonkeepmyour wheels on the geound as much as possible, or do you want to manual, jump, and hop around as much as possible?
    Thanks Steve. Outerbike is so many bikes in 3 days, and I actually hadn't even heard of Spot. I grabbed it when I didn't get a Yeti that I wanted and just rode. I was really surprised at how well it rode, even on the XL. I do wish that I would have rode the L also, and have a feeling that it would have been Spot on (ignore the accidental, lame pun), but the only thing that has be wondering is that if I get a Mayhem, I want to get a set of wide 27.5 wheels to have a spare set of 2.8-3.0 tires for when I ride more loose and burly stuff, like Moab. I know that the bike would drop down a tad as I lose just a little wheel diameter on that, and wonder if while running 27.5+ wheels, the Large would feel too small. Maybe it would be super playful and fun. I know on my local trails, most are faster, hardpacked single track that the 29er would eat up.

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