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    Something old, something new, something borrowed, blow me...

    Ok, finally got around to getting my Badger Dororthy v2.0 together. Essentially the first version with built in duality. Sexy f'ing bike, no real ride time yet. This is the last time you'll see this puta sucia this clean.

    Specs (for the weirdos):

    Frame: Badger Dorothy; 24.5" ETT; Niner pinch bolt BB shell and EBB; full cable routing
    Fork: Bontrager Switchblade; don't even start on the spacers; just picked up this afternoon; measure a thousand times, cut twice
    Cranks: RF Turbine square tapers; 175mm; 94bcd compact drive for all the crazy ring variations; purchased gently used here on MTBR
    Chainring: 34t Salsa SS
    Rear cog: 21t Boone
    BB: UN73; 68mmx107mm; fierce Q factor
    Post: Turdbuster LT...just for Padre
    Clamp: Snurly; Salsa en route
    Stem: Performance Forte (private label Ritchey; $12 with coupon!); total ghetto spec but me likey
    Bar: Answer Pro Taper - 27"x25.4mmx2" rise; fourth bike; great bars
    HS: C'mon...
    Saddle: WTB Lazer V Ti
    Wheels: I9s with all the fixings
    Brakes: J7s; blue D'boy levers forthcoming from other bike; funky old Hope rotors
    Tires: XR front, Nano rear; soon to be Nevegal front, XR rear
    Pedals: ATAC Aliums, get some
    Chain: used PC69; 'cuz I recycle like dat; can't wait to break it
    Cages: Props to Shiggy for the bottle cage reco... I couldn't find my favorite decade old Specialized cages anywhere...go figure

    Weight as pictured, uncircumcised, was 24lbs 14oz. Bar and tube changes should bring it down a skosh all while being fully clyde authorized for SSing. Headbadge made of U238 will bump it back up.

    Much thanks to Ben Witt of Milltown Cycles (www.milltowncycles.com) for pulling it together for me. Can't wait to get some real miles on it.
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    Second wave...

    BTW - the fillet brazing is unreal. So smooth that it looks like it was molded from clay...makes other fillet brazed frames I've seen look like Taiwan TIG-jobs (not that there's anything wrong with TIG, settle down wannabes ).

    Putting it on the roof rack I noticed the wheelbase is at least 2" shorter than my El Cap...this is going to be fun.
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    Go straight to hell. Don't collect $200 dollars, don't say a damn word........getting a bike before it's even released....whats this world coming to????

    Where's the kiddy porn police when you need them....flaunting that "barely legal" thing around here....
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    ohh purty blue. Color of my balls at this point. I love my Haro, but I dearly miss my filleted hunter. Gotta start saving pennies again....dammit.
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    Anytime you Arkansans want to come to Minnie for a winter ride she's all yours.

    Quote Originally Posted by ncj01
    Go straight to hell. Don't collect $200 dollars, don't say a damn word........getting a bike before it's even released....whats this world coming to????

    Where's the kiddy porn police when you need them....flaunting that "barely legal" thing around here....
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    WTF happened to the Hunter? Email me when you have sec to catch up.

    Quote Originally Posted by ~martini~
    ohh purty blue. Color of my balls at this point. I love my Haro, but I dearly miss my filleted hunter. Gotta start saving pennies again....dammit.
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    Hmmmm, I'm flattered, I think, if this was the borrowed:

    "Something new, st old & st borrowed"

    Nice bike. Rigid w/ a TurdBuster, interesting. Ride it hard but don't put it away wet....

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    Good lord, I see a lot of blue, and a lot of $$$.

    Alas, it is indeed a kickass bike. Simple, but its still got some bling to it.

    Me likes. ME LIKES A LOT.

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    Wow! That bike looks awesome. I love the blue and panels really blow my hair back.

    Very good looking all around and the fillets top it off.
    It's only weird because it's not normal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by edemtbs
    Hmmmm, I'm flattered, I think, if this was the borrowed:

    "Something new, st old & st borrowed"

    Ed E
    I honestly did not know what I was going to find lurking in this thread. That "blow me" part kind of scared me at first, then I saw the pics. Great looking bike Soup! The blue is very nice. I know what you mean about the liquidity of the brazing. My Pereira gives me that same feeling when I look at it. I coud stare at it all day...hypnotic.

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    Soupboy,

    That grease on the pedal spindle/back side of the crank arm is going to make a mess.
    It's only weird because it's not normal.

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    Looks flexy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cocheese
    I honestly did not know what I was going to find lurking in this thread.
    I jumped in feet first.

    I hate pre-emptive strikes: "don't even start on the spacers; just picked up this afternoon; measure a thousand times, cut twice"

    I'm looking for something, anything...

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    Quote Originally Posted by edemtbs

    I'm looking for something, anything...

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    You nailed it with the Thudbuster comment. If it's too rough, stand up. For crissakes, it's a singlespeed!
    Take the long cut, we'll get there eventually.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Debaser
    You nailed it with the Thudbuster comment. If it's too rough, stand up. For crissakes, it's a singlespeed!
    No kidding.

    Take a drop-dead sexy bike, and then strip it of dignity with a thud.
    Like a big fat mustache on a supermodel....perhaps even a uni-brow too.

    But worse...worse....is that stem.....seriously Soup? Seriously? A $120 headset married to a $12 ghetto-fabulous stem?

    Rear end....beautiful.
    Paint....beautiful.
    Fork....painful.
    Badger's work...priceless...

    Question...what's the over/under on the 4 bike old bars breaking before the Turbines or the used PC69?

    I don't have a problem with the stem spacers...that's ugly you can change...

    Nice build Sean! Let us know how she rides!

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    Damn Soupie, she's a sexai lookin beotch. I love the welds on the badgerz.

    Nice touch with the thuddy, too...lol....gives young padre the jim-jams...heheheh..


    Ride report pleeze..


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    That is one nice bike, looking forward to the first ride report!

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    That is a stunning piece of machinery!

    You've all seen my rants about Thud's so I'll save that. However, DUDE... it's gotta go! Unless, of course, there are batteries and assoc. to go with that thing. Snicker!

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    do you think you can ride the rock on this bike??

    nice bike tho. too nice for you...
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    Yer gonna luv her!

    That's really nice, Soupboy! Yer gonna fall in love wid dat!

    And yes, the Thud-thingie is hideous, but to each his own!

    I have to take the Dorothy proto back to Ben today.......sniff!.....I'm gonna miss her!

    Have fun! I don't doubt that you'll love it. And sneakin' in under the radar wasn't fair, but there ya go!
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    Nice ride, Soup.

    Handlebars are too wide, though. Put on the flats.

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    I have a question.....

    I see lots of super nice builds using older cranks i.e. Race Face Turbines that use square taper spindles is this coincidental or done with purpose?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mckeand13
    That grease on the pedal spindle/back side of the crank arm is going to make a mess.
    No doubt, I'll get on it.

    Quote Originally Posted by unotache
    Looks flexy.
    Touche unotache! I was concerned about that, but it feels every bit as laterally stiff as my old KM and any other steel or Ti 29er HT I've encountered. Time will tell.

    Quote Originally Posted by Debaser
    You nailed it with the Thudbuster comment. If it's too rough, stand up. For crissakes, it's a singlespeed!
    Nope, so solly, Thuds rool! I hope to continue enjoying sensations along my undercarriage well into my late 30s.

    Quote Originally Posted by Padre
    Soup, I love that cheap ass stem and sweet Thudbuster! Nice spec!
    I knew you would.

    Quote Originally Posted by mtnbykr©™
    do you think you can ride the rock on this bike?? nice bike tho. too nice for you...
    No. Thanks. Agreed.

    Quote Originally Posted by Timo
    Handlebars are too wide, though. Put on the flats.
    They're only getting lower and wider (like me).

    Quote Originally Posted by Leethal
    I see lots of super nice builds using older cranks i.e. Race Face Turbines that use square taper spindles is this coincidental or done with purpose?
    100% on purpose. For me it has less to do with square taper and more to do with availability of 94mm BCD cranks so that I can easily run < 32t middle chainrings if/when going geared.
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    oh brother....i forgot how so many of the 29er zealots are new parts/bike buzz killing sundary morning couch quarterbacks. having said that, if i ever see a gravity dropper on your bikes you must be punished.

    dude, the bike is sick (am i allowed to say that on other than the DH forum?). Seriously....i knew you had a project going but never knew the details....

    congrats!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soupboy
    Ok, finally got around to getting my Badger Dororthy v2.0 together. Essentially the first version with built in duality. Sexy f'ing bike, no real ride time yet. This is the last time you'll see this puta sucia this clean.
    Sweet looking bike and build. Love the Thud. Those who are gettin' some off the bike need to protect their backs on the bike for all post ride activity.

    The bigger the cushion, the better the pushing.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rainman
    Damn Soupie, she's a sexai lookin beotch. I love the welds on the badgerz.

    Nice touch with the thuddy, too...lol....gives young padre the jim-jams...heheheh..


    Ride report pleeze..


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    Soupboy - can you tell me more abou the compact drive cranks? Just gives you a ton more options in terms of chairning combos you can run is that it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMcG
    Soupboy - can you tell me more abou the compact drive cranks? Just gives you a ton more options in terms of chairning combos you can run is that it?
    I aint soupboy (thank God) but not so much that it give you so many more options, but rather gives you the option of running smaller ring for the given position of the ring (eg, can go smaller than a 22t small ring). So for a 29er of course, if a chap wants to standardize their gearing to that of a 26er, it is appealing.

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    butter, blue butter, but still butter non the less.

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    So slick

    Quote Originally Posted by Soupboy
    Putting it on the roof rack I noticed the wheelbase is at least 2" shorter than my El Cap...this is going to be fun.
    That bike deserves a reserved seat, not a roof rack.

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    You need to get Kenda to make some of those old Krystals for you. In blue 29er. That would be horrible.

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    Soupie, I don't mean to ruin your day or anything, but I have to tell you that I saw your new girl all nekkid in the bathtub before you got to her. But don't worry, I didn't do anything inappropriate to her. I did stare for just a bit though.

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    I think the thudbuster was put on there to keep the bike from looking too small for souperman. Can you imagine it with a normal seatpost??

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    Nice!!!

    Taking It Out His Weekend??? Would Love To Meet Up And See It In Person. Monticello On Sunday Am?????

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    Hey:

    That post cracked me up!

    The bike is great!

    Good luck with it

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    Quote Originally Posted by evilbike
    You need to get Kenda to make some of those old Krystals for you. In blue 29er. That would be horrible.
    Just you wait. This was originally going to have a full set of blue Hope c'pit bits - stem, HS, seatclamp, M4s with blue inserts, blue 2-pc rotors, blue D'Boy levers, blue lock ons, etc. Maybe a blue Sella Italia saddle to top it off. Blue tires would be too much though.
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    Thud

    Ain’t no dud. I love ahhhhhh……… I mean my back loves that thing. One suggestion is to buy a crudbuster for it. I bought one tuned it inside out (to hide the lettering) and makes the post “look” much better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soupboy
    Cages: Props to Shiggy for the bottle cage reco... I couldn't find my favorite decade old Specialized cages anywhere...go figure.
    What Spec cages were you looking for?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Padre
    No kidding.

    Take a drop-dead sexy bike, and then strip it of dignity with a thud.
    Like a big fat mustache on a supermodel....perhaps even a uni-brow too.

    But worse...worse....is that stem.....seriously Soup? Seriously? A $120 headset married to a $12 ghetto-fabulous stem?

    Rear end....beautiful.
    Paint....beautiful.
    Fork....painful.
    Badger's work...priceless...

    Question...what's the over/under on the 4 bike old bars breaking before the Turbines or the used PC69?

    I don't have a problem with the stem spacers...that's ugly you can change...

    Nice build Sean! Let us know how she rides!
    So I take it your not a fan of Heidi Klums new look?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rivet
    So I take it your not a fan of Heidi Klums new look?
    ha! exactly! *hilarious

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rivet
    So I take it your not a fan of Heidi Klums new look?
    ha! exactly! *hilarious

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soupboy
    Cages: Props to Shiggy for the bottle cage reco...
    The Cateye plastic bottle cages are the best. Light, never pitch a bottle, and for those bikes-as-jewelry geeks, they never look bad either. And the bonus for Shiggy, they come in those funky colors he loves!

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    nice

    that thing looks great, nice build

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    Nice EBB Rob's gotten a few of our EBB kits, it's cool to see one on the boards with it.

    Nice build Soupboy! Next pics of this bike should be so dirty you can't tell that it's fillet brazed. There's something poetic about an absolutely beautiful bike being thrashed off road with complete disregard for it's beauty.

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    Soupboy,
    Great looking bike
    I may have to take you up on your offer this winter, after I get MY Badger , and have to ride it (I live in SE Wisconsin). Besides I have been wanting to try a Thudbuster and see how they work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niner Bikes
    There's something poetic about an absolutely beautiful bike being thrashed off road with complete disregard for it's beauty.
    Well said....
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    Quote Originally Posted by pablo_b
    The Cateye plastic bottle cages are the best. Light, never pitch a bottle, and for those bikes-as-jewelry geeks, they never look bad either. And the bonus for Shiggy, they come in those funky colors he loves!
    And they are light too....almost as light as the King ti cages...

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    Nice ride, very, very nice. Enjoy.

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    Is that the POS I have been keeping secret about all this time. What an UGLY bike.

    My offer of $500 AUD for your Cap still stands provided you pay shipping to OZ.
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    Quick ride report

    She's only been out for one ride...and it was brief - partially my schedule, partially the 30d weather.

    Very fun. Best described as "carve-y" vs. twicthy...what I expected. Not sure if I'm sold on the rigid fork yet but I'll give it a shot with a Neve and lower PSI before punting and tossing the Reba on there.

    Thudbuster? Never again will I abuse my taint and lower back with a stupid rigid post. I don't care how sexy Ti looks...unless it's Ti Thudbuster (Cane Creek please take note).

    Everything else worked as expected....as in very swell. Lateral stiffness is great even under my big carcass and the smoothness/compliance of steel is not lost. The Switchblade is a nice - albeit rigid - fork. As stiff torsionally as any steel fork I've used with just a little more fore/aft compliance. It looks hot too. I may gear down to 32x21 just cuz I haven't ridden SS in over a year...will keep me fresher, longer until I'm ready to gear back up. The Forte stem, while unabashedly ghetto, gets ur did. New chain forth coming...as the old one is stretched worse than Oz's old lady's gunch...or was that Fo's?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soupboy
    Thudbuster? Never again will I abuse my taint and lower back with a stupid rigid post. I don't care how sexy Ti looks...unless it's Ti Thudbuster (Cane Creek please take note).
    Don't gear down! Gear up! That will keep you off your saddle and keep you from committing the heinious bike defacement act of the Thud.

    I support the punting of the rigid fork. That was fun for a ride or two wasn't it? Now, let's get down to having fun now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Padre
    Don't gear down! Gear up! That will keep you off your saddle and keep you from committing the heinious bike defacement act of the Thud.
    Hehehe. My lower back can't handle a regular post on a hardtail so years ago I decided to try a suspension post, everybody told my how great the thudbusters worked but damn, I couldn't bring myself to put one of those things on my bike so I went with a USE. Maybe not as plush as a Thud but it works well enough and it's a damn sight better looking and bulletproof.

    EDIT; Not in the habit of taking " portraits" of my bike I was just trying out my new Point and shoot camera.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soupboy
    Not sure if I'm sold on the rigid fork yet but I'll give it a shot with a Neve and lower PSI before punting and tossing the Reba on there.
    keep me in mind if you decide to go boingy. we can talk about giving the bonty fork a new home...
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    are those bolt on skewers? or does i9 do bolt on hubs?

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    They are bolt-on thru-axles absent the add'l clamping mechanism around the axle. Somewhat semantics. 9mm front, 10mm rear. I can run Skraxle up front too. I have not seen I9 produce bolt-on hubs like CK or DT with "Funn-bolt" equivalents.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fulton
    are those bolt on skewers? or does i9 do bolt on hubs?
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    Check out this....

    Here's my review of the proto type, geared only Dorothy.

    http://twentynineinches.com/2006/10/...-final-review/
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    Scrapped the X-Lite for a Reba Race (80mm). Good gracious.

    I love the rigid (fork) aesthete, but phuk it as a practical matter. Admittedly, I'm a doughy, weak, no talent a$$ clown but rigid forks gobble sweaty donkey wang (for me). [Who wants a Bonty X-Lite with a 9 3/8" steerer and <20 miles use?]

    The Reba brought the front end up just over 3cm unsagged vs. the X-Lite. A little stem y bar adjustment corrected that.

    An already great bike was, in turn, made greaterer (pics to follow). I'd forgotten how good the Reba's small bump compliance was. By comparison, my WB Fluid's small bump compliance is like that of the X-Lite.

    Yes, Padre, my Thudbuster continues to be the single greatest component ever invented...with it, the Reba, and a host of Clyde authorized bits the bike is around 25.5#.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soupboy
    By comparison, my WB Fluid's small bump compliance is like that of the X-Lite.
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