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    Sniper XC ELITE build vs blur X01 build value

    Strictly looks at the component build of both bikes, Which build is a better value?

    Blur
    X01
    $6399USD
    10.39kg / 22.91lbs
    Carbon CC
    FOX Step-Cast 32 Performance Elite, 100mm 29", w/Remote
    FOX Float Performance DPS w/Remote
    SRAM X01 Eagle
    SRAM X01 Eagle
    SRAM X1 Eagle Carbon 148 DUB 34T (170mm S, 175mm M-XL)
    SRAM XG1295 Eagle 10-50T
    SRAM X01 Eagle 12 SPD
    SRAM Level TLM
    SRAM CLX Center Lock, 160mm
    Cane Creek 40 IS Integrated Headset
    SCB XC Carbon Flat
    Syntace LiteForce
    ESI Chunky
    DT Swiss 350, 15x110, Centerlock, 28h
    DT Swiss 350, 12x148, Centerlock, XD, 28h
    Race Face ARC Offset 25 29" Rims
    Santa Cruz Reserve 25 Carbon Rim
    DT Competition Race (28)
    Maxxis Aspen, 29"x2.25", EXO TR
    Maxxis Aspen, 29"x2.25", EXO TR
    Stans Sealant 2oz
    Syntace P6 Carbon HiFlex 31.6
    WTB Silverado Team Saddle


    Sniper
    TRAVEL (FRONT/REAR):
    100mm/100mm
    WHEEL SIZE:
    29"
    FRAME WEIGHT:
    4 lbs (Size Medium, Hardware, Seat Collar, Axle. No Shock)
    HT ANGLE:
    67.5 ̊
    REACH:
    421 mm / 16.6” (Small) // 445 mm/ 17.5" (Medium) //
    468 mm / 18.4” (Large) // 490 mm / 19.3” (XL)
    FRAME
    Sniper 29 SL Monocoque UD Carbon Front and Rear Triangle, Carbon Top Link, Magnesium Lower Link, Internal Derailleur Routing, Ti Hardware, w/ 148 x12 mm spacing, 100 mm travel
    FORK
    FOX Factory 32 Kashima, 3 Position Adjust 29, 44 mm rake, 100mm, Boost Kabolt 110x15mm
    SHOCK
    FOX Factory DPS, Kashima, 165 x 40 mm
    WHEELSET
    WHEELS
    INTENSE RECON XC 29" Carbon 28 Hole. Wheelset weight 1590g
    HUBS
    DT Swiss 350 Classic, 6 Bolt, 110x15mm, 28 Hole Front / 148x12mm, XD, 28 Hole Rear
    RIMS
    INTENSE RECON XC 29" Carbon 28 Hole, 25mm Inner channel
    SPOKES
    DT Swiss
    TIRES
    Maxxis 29x2.25 Rekon Folding, 120 TPI, DC/EXO/TR
    WHEELS
    INTENSE RECON XC 29" Carbon 28 Hole. Wheelset weight 1590g
    HUBS
    DT Swiss 350 Classic, 6 Bolt, 110x15mm, 28 Hole Front / 148x12mm, XD, 28 Hole Rear
    RIMS
    INTENSE RECON XC 29" Carbon 28 Hole, 25mm Inner channel
    SPOKES
    DT Swiss
    TIRES
    Maxxis 29x2.25 Rekon Folding, 120 TPI, DC/EXO/TR
    DRIVETRAIN
    SHIFTERS
    Sram GX Eagle 12speed Trigger
    REAR DERAILLEUR
    Sram X01 Eagle 12speed
    FRONT DERAILLEUR
    N/A
    CRANK
    Sram Stylo Carbon Eagle Boost GXP 175mm, 34T
    CASSETTE
    Sram XG1295 X01 Eagle 12speed, 10-50T
    CHAIN
    Sram GX Eagle 12speed
    CHAIN GUIDE

    BOTTOM BRACKET
    Sram BB92
    COMPONENTS
    SADDLE
    Fabric Line Elite w/ Cr-Mo Rails
    SEATPOST
    Kindshock Carbon LEV Ci, 125 mm Dropper
    HANDLEBAR
    Intense Flat 760mm Carbon
    STEM
    Intense Recon ELITE 50mm
    HEADSET
    Cane Creek AER Integrated Headset, Aluminum Bearing Series, IS41-IS52/40
    BRAKESET
    Shimano XT Centerlock, 160mm FR / 160mm RR
    GRIPS
    Intense Nano Foam
    BIKE WEIGHT
    22.1 lbs (Size Medium)

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    The Sniper Elite XC is a pretty amazing value. For $100 more you are getting carbon rims (the $6399 Blur does not come with Reserve wheel upgrade) and a dropper seatpost in a bike that weighs the better part of a pound less. You don't get the full X01 groupset, but I doubt I would be able to tell the difference, and the Sniper XC Elite comes with Shimano XT brakes, which is a definite plus in my book.

    The big question is how durable are Intense frames, and how good is the customer service from Intense? Santa Cruz offers a lifetime warranty, and their customer service has a stellar reputation. I don't personally know anything about Intense.

    Assuming the frame quality is the same, you probably can't go wrong with either, and I don't think anyone can build a case for the Sniper Elite NOT being the better value. There definitely are advantages in the direct to consumer business model.

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    If a bike with low end components rides better than a bike with high end components, what are you buying?

    Demo the bikes, that should be step one.

    If you’re gonna buy sight unseen, best value might be Whyte or Fezzari.

    I’d rather have the better riding bike, so spend more $$ on the frame and suspension, drivetrain differences are really insignificant these days (GX is good stuff), get some good brakes, high end tires, put gas in your car, have money for pizza.

    Between the two, both bikes in a box, the Intense wins; but which one rides better out of the box?
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    Lrg Fezzari Signal Peak 29/27+
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    Both are great bikes. I personally like the geo on the Sniper better with the slacker HTA. And carbon wheels make a big difference on certain types of trails. I currently own a Spider 275c, but will be looking at the Blur and Sniper more closely when the time comes for a short travel 29er.

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    At this price range I consider a build. And I'd look at a Scott Spark frameset to do it. The RC 900 Pro at $1k less with 12sp XTR is a good value. You could ride a hardtail for your trails.

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    Blur if you don't need a dropper. The Fox Performance Elite is just as good as the Factory and looks better.

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    Based on customer service experience, Santa Cruz has some solid frames and a great warranty process if you do actually have to use it. I haven't heard much about Intense in that front, so can't comment on that one.

    I'd suggest at least trying to ride both suspension platforms to see what you like better if it's at all possible to demo.

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    I was also looking at the Intense, but some folks found it flexy. I can’t inagine the Blur will be flexy. I still wouldn’t buy either without a demo, suspension feel, geo, flex are all real things to consider. Parts are just parts.
    Lrg GG Pedalhead 29/27+ (for sale)
    XMed GG Smash 29/27+
    Lrg Fezzari Signal Peak 29/27+
    Lrg Pivot Shuttle 27+ (wife's)

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    Nearest LBS that is a santa cruz dealer is 1.5hrs away. Intense demo days for 2019 is not out yet. I can't see intense coming to N Illinois though! Both are great bikes, both have great reviews. Sooooo many other great bikes available too. Sniper geo is intriguing to me because it is so different from current ride and other XC FS bikes. I will keep my custom built niner carbon SS hardtail for racing and trail riding. Any bike that I buy will be more than I will ever need for the midwest. Its hard not to get caught up in all the new tech and lite weight parts. I could just ride a entry level bike, but that would just be vanilla! Lots of great comments and suggestions. Cheers

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