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    Shreddy 29er HT

    Looking to build up a 29er hardtail for my lady friend to be a backup bike and also empty out my spare parts bin. None of the easy options seems to quite fit the bill. Frame has gotta have the following:

    140MM max fork travel - she has a Transition for the big stuff

    Tallish BB or ability to run a bash guard (we live in New England). No PFBBs.

    Budget friendly and not a tank

    Kona Honzo seems like the logical choice, but it fails the New England test and I already own one so she'll want nothing to do with it. I like the NS Eccentric but they're hard to find. Seems like there are a lot of small builders cranking out affordable hardtails in the UK these days - anybody got a suggestion along those lines?

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    Surly Karate Monkey. The new version is fairly “shreddy” and super versatile.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pulsepro View Post
    Surly Karate Monkey. The new version is fairly “shreddy” and super versatile.
    This, the SC Chameleon, and Salsa Timbrjack.

    What is the “new england test”?
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    NS Eccentric.
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    Santa Cruz Chameleon ticks all your boxes as has been mentioned. Nukeproof Scout would also be a good choice and the frame is about half the price of the Chameleon.

    And, I'd also like to know what the New England test is?

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    I own a Honzo, but the N9 is very similar, but with a higher BB. I would switch from my Kona but I built a Balance recently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beer_coffee_water View Post


    I own a Honzo, but the N9 is very similar, but with a higher BB. I would switch from my Kona but I built a Balance recently.
    I'll second the N9. And they're currently marked down to $600. I miss mine and am considering another.

    I preferred my N9 over the carbon Honzo I had FWIW.

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    Canfield has a long head tube which is why I crossed it off my list. Eccentric is steel, not too heavy, and has the geometry dialled. Tapered head tube to help keep the front end down. It's the best buy in this category, and I spent months looking at 29 hardtail frames.
    I got some bad ideas in my head.

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    Shreddy 29er HT

    If you like long reaches the Chameleon is the way to go.


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    ??? If you like long reach the Pipedream Moxie is the way to go.

    Moxie Enduro Hardtail | 27.5/27.5+/29er Compatible
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    I ordered a NS Snabb Plus 1 from Lama Cycles last year. Took less than a week to go from their warehouse in Canada to my doorstep in eastern PA. Looks like they have all the new 2018 Eccentrics up. E-mail them if you have any questions; they took good care of me.

    Just remember, you won't pay shipping or tax, but when UPS arrives at your door, you'll have to cut them a check. I think it was 11% for a complete bike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Travis Bickle View Post
    ??? If you like long reach the Pipedream Moxie is the way to go.

    Moxie Enduro Hardtail | 27.5/27.5+/29er Compatible
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    Thanks folks, looks like we're going with a Chameleon. She has a Transition Patrol that's a bit of a beast on slower trails so she was looking for something small and nimble, and having plus tires as a winter option is a bonus.

    Travis Bickle: if they can make one of them Moxies with anything longer than a 42cm seat tube I'll buy two.

    The "New England Test" is getting through an after-work ride with all your chainring teeth. We have a few rocks in these parts and flow trails aren't for everybody. I liked my Honzo for the first couple of months, but with the PFBB the only way I could figure out to mount a bash ring was to dremel the granny tabs off a 3x crank spider. With as cheap and light as taco guards are there's no reason not to have ISCG tabs on any all-around bike frame, or at least the space to mount a BB guard.

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    I found it odd that the longer Moxie has the same seat tube length as the long. 42cm is great for me and my 160mm dropper though.
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    I'm in the market for something like the Chamelon. Would be interested in steel options, but it seems like all that's out there in a complete 29er build are the Karate Monkey (with rigid fork) and the (vaporware?) Niner SIR 9. Any other options short of going custom or building up a Honzo frame?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jtbadge View Post
    I'm in the market for something like the Chamelon. Would be interested in steel options, but it seems like all that's out there in a complete 29er build are the Karate Monkey (with rigid fork) and the (vaporware?) Niner SIR 9. Any other options short of going custom or building up a Honzo frame?
    On One might be worth a look: https://www.on-one.co.uk/c/q/bikes/m...mountain-bikes
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    Quote Originally Posted by jtbadge View Post
    I'm in the market for something like the Chamelon. Would be interested in steel options, but it seems like all that's out there in a complete 29er build are the Karate Monkey (with rigid fork) and the (vaporware?) Niner SIR 9. Any other options short of going custom or building up a Honzo frame?
    In addition to the On-One that heartland references, there are other UK options at Chain Reaction Cycles. Ragley in steel and Nukeproof in alloy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jtbadge View Post
    I'm in the market for something like the Chamelon. Would be interested in steel options, but it seems like all that's out there in a complete 29er build are the Karate Monkey (with rigid fork) and the (vaporware?) Niner SIR 9. Any other options short of going custom or building up a Honzo frame?

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    https://youtu.be/GHhqFh2Wfrw

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    Quote Originally Posted by targnik View Post
    https://youtu.be/GHhqFh2Wfrw

    All the rest are mere shadows.

    Nukeproof is the sun ^^

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    73 deg STA with a 65 deg HTA ? That STA is a bit on the slack side for that HTA don’t you think ?

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    I've been considering the Commencal Meta HT AM, Nukeproof Scout 290, Honzo ST, Honzo AL/DL, Ragley Big Wig & Dartmoor Primal
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    Quote Originally Posted by M320 View Post
    73 deg STA with a 65 deg HTA ? That STA is a bit on the slack side for that HTA don’t you think ?
    'Get the net, I've got a live one here!'

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    Quote Originally Posted by targnik View Post
    'Get the net, I've got a live one here!'

    ;-P

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