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    Santa Cruz Highball

    I'm checking out the Highball and digging that short 23" top tube and 2.45lb frame weight, but they list the BB height as 12". Is this a misprint? Did they mean 13"? My Air 9 with 100mm and big tires has about 12.75" and barely makes it through the rocks. It can't be 12"?
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    I can't confirm this, but it may be a typo. I can't see them going lower than what the the Tallboy has "12.8".
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    Nope, 12" is right. Keep in mind that on the Tallboy the whole suspension sags and lowers the BB from the static number. I have a 12" static height BB on my Black Cat and wouldn't change a thing...The thing absolutely rips. It doesn't take long to adapt to a low BB and the positives far out-weigh the negatives in my humble opinion.

    Throw a leg over one and I bet you'll love it.

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    I have been told that the Highball has a pretty rough ride, very stiff. Is that a fairly accurate statement? Have a buddy who is interested but none are available at any LBS to test ride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jfkbike2 View Post
    I have been told that the Highball has a pretty rough ride, very stiff. Is that a fairly accurate statement? Have a buddy who is interested but none are available at any LBS to test ride.
    No rider weight limit but it is not rough.
    I have ridden a Niner Air 9 Carbon before switching to a Highball - The A9C is more punishing were the Highball is providing a much more smoother ride.

    2 months on the highball with more then 1150KM

    Great bike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blaadd View Post
    No rider weight limit but it is not rough.
    I have ridden a Niner Air 9 Carbon before switching to a Highball - The A9C is more punishing were the Highball is providing a much more smoother ride.

    2 months on the highball with more then 1150KM

    Great bike.
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    If you don't mind me asking what is your weight? My buddy is about 215 lbs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jfkbike2 View Post
    If you don't mind me asking what is your weight? My buddy is about 215 lbs.
    I am 190 lbs.

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    I test road a Highball before ending up with the Scott Scale Pro. The Highball was a great bike and it climbed like no other. You are right as it's super stiff. I found after a 3hr ride, my back was more sore then after riding the Scott. Based on the above comment about the Niner, it may be personal preference it terms of the harshness of the ride. From personal experience, the highball is fast uphill but less forgiving (for a hardtail) downhill and rock gardens.

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    I weigh 215 and I ride a Highball. Love the bike. I have an SLR Kit Carbonio saddle on a straight Masterpiece post for sub two hour rides and a Brooks Team Professional Titanium on a setback Masterpiece for the longer rides. I run 2.25 Rocket Ron tires and its a sweet ride. Most enjoyable bike I've had in a while.
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    I recently switched from an A9C to a Highball, and found the lower BB took a few rides to adjust to. Once dialled, the Highball rips - it climbs awesomely, and descends with more stability than my Niner did.

    I use mine for all sorts of riding too - from XCO format races, through to weekend-long epics (~500km over a 5 day weekend) and it's been faultless.

    Check out a mini-review of my Highball here if it's any help!

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    This is my project Highball. 18 lbs. of kung fu hustle.

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    that is... HOT.

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    I think the assessment of comparing the AC9 to the Highball is accurate. The AC9 rides more like the Scott which is a pretty stiff carbon. I really like the way Santa Cruz tuned the carbon, but that is just me personally. If you think the Highball rides stiff. Ride a Lynskey Pro29 and a Highball back to back. It will feel not only more compliant, but more responsive, lighter, more nimble, and more compliant all at the same time. Or at least that is what I felt. You also feel higher up on the bike on the Lynskey. That was my opinion when I put the two back to back.

    As far as the setup was, they were nearly the same..XO group, American Classic wheels, but the Highball had Truvativ Carbon bars/post and the Lynskey had Ritchey Carbon..but I don't think that would have made the difference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by francois View Post
    This is my project Highball. 18 lbs. of kung fu hustle.

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    Very nice !
    Which Ergon grips are you using ?

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    Wow cool bike

    Thanks for the tip dubdryver, I was considering a A9C, but having ridden a Highball I liked the Highball a lot - I had a lot of fun on it. And this thread has confirmed it is a lighter frame and maybe more complaint - kind of sweetens my decision to go with the Highball.

    Hey francios, that looks great. I can't believe you have got the weight so low, awesome job. I am struggling to get my down to 20lb and I am going SS on mine, I'd love to be under 19lb as a target.

    I see you have a rigid fork. Which fork is that one? I thought the Highballs A to C requirements were 505mm and that most rigid forks are stuck down around the 470mm mark. What's your secret/trick here?

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    interesting info in this thread

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    I love my HighBall, as much as I love my TallBoy.

    The HB climbs amazing and handles all riding and tails exceptionally well. I treat it and ride it like the TB and it takes all with pleasure.

    The BB is pretty low but I have converted the 3x10 XT to 22/32 bash guard (will be going to 36T) and this greatly increased clearance and log crossing ability.

    I also run Schwalbe Racing Ralph 2.4 tires for the taller sidewall, complience and grip with sub 30lbs pressures. This makes for a improved ride.

    I'm 180+lbs, pretty aggressive and ride more bombing trail over XC.

    Great bike!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ow595 View Post
    I also run Schwalbe Racing Ralph 2.4 tires for the taller sidewall, complience and grip with sub 30lbs pressures. This makes for a improved ride.
    I assume you are running F&R? How is clearance in the rear?

    Also anyone have any sources for the HB that they recommend for a good deal and good service? We have no LBS near us that handles SC.

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    918xc has treated me well for my Santa Cruz needs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jfkbike2 View Post
    I assume you are running F&R? How is clearance in the rear?
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    Yes, running RR 2.4 front and rear. Rear has a good 4mm+ (1/8") clearance on the sides and 8mm (1/4) from the seat stays. Lots of clearance for even a larger tire.
    SC was thinking ahead.

    Final stop, a few more carbon bits and Carbon wheels. Then its perfect!

    William
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    Interesting... SC recommends up to 2.3 tires front and rear...

    Just my 2c.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ow595 View Post
    Yes, running RR 2.4 front and rear. Rear has a good 4mm+ (1/8") clearance on the sides and 8mm (1/4) from the seat stays. Lots of clearance for even a larger tire.
    SC was thinking ahead.

    Final stop, a few more carbon bits and Carbon wheels. Then its perfect!

    William
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