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    Ooo la la.
    I wonder if they're going to release an aluminum FS 29'er, too (as was the rumor)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guitar Ted
    Interesting. In their sizing scheme, I would ride an XL. Seems a bit odd, but then, whatever they call "that size" is fine, I guess.

    In response to the chain stay thing, that is on the shorter end for production bikes, but I would say "ultra-short" as they describe, is maybe a bit over the top marketing there. Obviously there are production bikes with shorter stays than this. No big deal.

    Looks like a great XC race bike.
    They didn't make a small, either. Lowest frame size is a 17.5". I remember seeing an article on twentynineinches or somewhere else where one of Santa Cruz's company guys said that they didn't believe 29'ers were for the shorter crowd. Do you know where this article is? I've been trying to get it for a while.

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    Santa Cruz Highball

    http://www.santacruzbikes.com/highba...ghball_pr.html

    More info + geometry and more pics. for the new Santa Cruz hardtail. It looks good and appears that they put a good bit of thought into it.

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    17.3 chainstays are "ultra-short"?

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    Interesting. In their sizing scheme, I would ride an XL. Seems a bit odd, but then, whatever they call "that size" is fine, I guess.

    In response to the chain stay thing, that is on the shorter end for production bikes, but I would say "ultra-short" as they describe, is maybe a bit over the top marketing there. Obviously there are production bikes with shorter stays than this. No big deal.

    Looks like a great XC race bike.
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    U got an inside connection Slim? I couldn't find a link to it that post anywhere on SC's website or blog.

    U guys think this will ride like the S-Works hardtail in that it will throw you over the front of the bars in racing style? I want this bike but I'm not a racer and I'd prefer to not feel thrown forward like a race machine. Even if it's prone to that, would a simple change of stem and riser bars resolve it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike T
    U got an inside connection Slim? I couldn't find a link to it that post anywhere on SC's website or blog.

    U guys think this will ride like the S-Works hardtail in that it will throw you over the front of the bars in racing style? I want this bike but I'm not a racer and I'd prefer to not feel thrown forward like a race machine. Even if it's prone to that, would a simple change of stem and riser bars resolve it?
    Carbon is by and far the most versatile material used to make bicycle components. It's impossible to speculate, especially as the S-cruz isn't in production yet.

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    That looks SICK!!!!
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    Did anybody notice the 26 inch effective top tube on the XXL. Should make some tall people happy
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    Curved seat tube, short chainstays. Another carbon hardtail. The more choices the merrier.
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    I merged the 2 highball threads into this one. As you were.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LandSpeed
    Ooo la la.
    I wonder if they're going to release an aluminum FS 29'er, too (as was the rumor)?
    Yes.

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    The tire clearance look impressive for the Highball at least on the rear. Nice to see another company going beyond just one 29er.
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    Yummy, that TRc is the pick of the new Santa Cruz litter for sure. 5 pounds for the frame with shock!!!! Without going crazy at all, I could end up with a 25 pound bike with 5" of travel. Hmmm......

    <a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/5567361193/" title="New Santa Cruz TRc by singingsingletracker, on Flickr"><img src="https://farm6.static.flickr.com/5051/5567361193_abb6b33659_z.jpg" width="640" height="426" alt="New Santa Cruz TRc" /></a>

    I wonder if Niner is coming up with a carbon RIP and JET to compete with these guys......?
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    Oh my 2.4lbs for the Highball frame, that's light!
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    I want at least two of the bikes listed there!

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    My next bike, when will XXL's be available ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BruceBrown
    Yummy, that TRc is the pick of the new Santa Cruz litter for sure. 5 pounds for the frame with shock!!!! Without going crazy at all, I could end up with a 25 pound bike with 5" of travel. Hmmm......

    <a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/5567361193/" title="New Santa Cruz TRc by singingsingletracker, on Flickr"><img src="https://farm6.static.flickr.com/5051/5567361193_abb6b33659_z.jpg" width="640" height="426" alt="New Santa Cruz TRc" /></a>

    I wonder if Niner is coming up with a carbon RIP and JET to compete with these guys......?
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    Quote Originally Posted by wedge
    17.3 chainstays are "ultra-short"?
    Seriously. Already got a ti frame with 17.3. Want a frame with cross country geometry and <17" stays.

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    are those a new mavic rim or something already out there, they look wider(?)
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    Quote Originally Posted by 92gli
    Seriously. Already got a ti frame with 17.3. Want a frame with cross country geometry and <17" stays.

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    Quote Originally Posted by M_S
    That's a 26er
    That's a fact. I did not notice anybody claiming otherwise.
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    I wonder if Niner is coming up with a carbon RIP and JET to compete with these guys......?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rkj__
    That's a fact. I did not notice anybody claiming otherwise.
    fair enough it just seemed like he was implying that this bike was like a carbon version of the RIP. Maybe I misread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by M_S
    fair enough it just seemed like he was implying that this bike was like a carbon version of the RIP. Maybe I misread.
    Well, here's what I said...

    I wonder if Niner is coming up with a carbon RIP and JET to compete with these guys......?


    I really wasn't trying to be obtuse. Santa Cruz has the carbon Tallboy, Specialized has the carbon Epic, Trek/Fisher the Superfly, etc... . My point was "wouldn't it be nice to see Niner come out with one of their longer travel bikes in a carbon suit and tie" if that's the kind of frame weight that can be achieved in the carbon TRc with rear shock?

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    Quote Originally Posted by naya the dingo
    Yelli Screamy with an angleset.
    I know. I missed out on a small in the first batch. Probably getting one in the 2nd batch. Just pains me to go up a pound and change on the frame weight but if I can manual the thing like my 26er then its worth it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 92gli
    I know. I missed out on a small in the first batch. Probably getting one in the 2nd batch. Just pains me to go up a pound and change on the frame weight but if I can manual the thing like my 26er then its worth it.

    I couldn't be any more pleased with mine. The bike is just plain fun to ride, it'll be worth the wait.

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    HIGHBALL a trail riding Machine

    This is a new build and one of the best 29er hardtails I have ever spent my days riding trail on.
    Blows away the Superfly and is "point and shoot" like the Stumpjumper.
    Built up with 2x10 XO and XX (crankset), Fox RLC 29 Float fork, and FSA stem/bars the bike weighs in at 20.5 lbs.

    Descending:The bike is very well balanced and very stable on the knarliest hairball chowdered trail you can find. Steep fast loose = No Worries

    Climbing: like a goat. Again, well balanced and seems to gravitate up the trail. Running No Tubes wheelset with low pressure (24-26 psi) it flies uphill. Light is Right.

    I have spent a year on a Superfly, and 1/2 a season on a Stumpjumper S-Works. This bike runs circles around both of these bikes. Very pleased with its performance.

    Ride ON!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TDubinator View Post
    This is a new build and one of the best 29er hardtails I have ever spent my days riding trail on.
    Blows away the Superfly and is "point and shoot" like the Stumpjumper.
    Built up with 2x10 XO and XX (crankset), Fox RLC 29 Float fork, and FSA stem/bars the bike weighs in at 20.5 lbs.

    Descending:The bike is very well balanced and very stable on the knarliest hairball chowdered trail you can find. Steep fast loose = No Worries

    Climbing: like a goat. Again, well balanced and seems to gravitate up the trail. Running No Tubes wheelset with low pressure (24-26 psi) it flies uphill. Light is Right.

    I have spent a year on a Superfly, and 1/2 a season on a Stumpjumper S-Works. This bike runs circles around both of these bikes. Very pleased with its performance.






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    Cool, please post some pic's.....
    Which Superfly are you comparing against and what is it about the Highball you like better ?

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    Superfly from 2009 and 2010. The Highball is not as slack and sluggish as the Superfly so it tracks better, climbs better, is more reactive making it a real point and shoot bike. The Superfly was slow and a very soft ride. That being said the Highball is not quarki like the Felt it is really stable and smooth, the bike really flows down the trail. I like the fact that I don't have to horse it around much, just think and it reacts. The tail is stiffer than the Superfly, more like the Stumpjumper S-Works so it accelerates quickly which I enjoy. I have several 5 hour rides on it so far and it does not abuse me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TDubinator View Post
    Superfly from 2009 and 2010. The Highball is not as slack and sluggish as the Superfly so it tracks better, climbs better, is more reactive making it a real point and shoot bike. The Superfly was slow and a very soft ride. That being said the Highball is not quarki like the Felt it is really stable and smooth, the bike really flows down the trail. I like the fact that I don't have to horse it around much, just think and it reacts. The tail is stiffer than the Superfly, more like the Stumpjumper S-Works so it accelerates quickly which I enjoy. I have several 5 hour rides on it so far and it does not abuse me.
    Thanks for the pic and review.
    Which tires are you using ?

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    The tires pictured are a set of Stan's Crow in a 2.2. I have been testing these out in the rough Rocky Mountain backcountry of the Tetons, Snake River Range, and the Big Hole Range and so far excellent tire. These don't have a ton of knob so they tend to drift a bit in the loose sand sections. I prefer a pretty low profile tire with a taller sidewall knob for cornering and speed.

    I also run the Conti Race King very often in a 2.1 or 2.2 which has a little more knob and thus a little less drift. They are also a little tougher. The Race King has been my choice for most 100 mile NUE races and they have performed.

    I also prefer a tire with higher volume in the rough trails since they have more air volume they provide a bit more cushion to the ride of the HT. If the trail is really buffed I will look to ride a 1.9 to 2.0 tire. I think tire choice is essential to the feel you get from the trail as it is the contact patch to the soil.

    Cheers. Ride ON!

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    Highball - Edge Wheels - Syncros carbon fork - Magura MT8.

    16 lb. flyer maybe....

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