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    Post your SE Stout 29er pics!

    Alright! I got my Stout less then two weeks ago and I got to know what some other Stout owners have done to make it there own!

    If you got a Stout 29er...post some pics!

    My Stout is totally stock and I am trying to see what other guys have done to their Stout and hopefully get some ideas! Don't be afraid to make a gratuitous parts list!!!

    (I just needed to give myself another excuse to post the same picture up that I had in my other thread!)

    Seriously! If you own a Stout...stock or modified (mod'd hopefully!)....post it up!

    Thanks!

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    2007 Stout

    Pretty much as it sits now. It's the 2007? Alum 17" Stout.
    All stock except I ghetto'd the rack on there, brakes have changed, replaced bent chainring, SWOBO set back seatpost, and added SNAFU pedals with strapless toe clips. This year couldn't do disc brakes but has a 29" Landing Gear chromo fork which is awesome. I backed the bike into a pole and it just scratched the fork while it bent the GFs frame.


    And now some action shots. I use this thing for everything- winter commuting, XC, even just got back from a gnarly technical DH trail (my arms hurt right now).

    The huge dreads are now gone

    And the after ride festivities

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    Cool Bro! A Stout in action! Now that is the ticket! I can tell you really enjoy your Stout!

    BTW...I wish I could do dreads but I am follicle-aly challenged!!! So all I can do is the power donut if I want to live on the wild side but until then...I am a cue ball all year round!

    Thanks for the pictures! Do you intend on doing anything else to it like discs or multi speed? I see your still rocking the stock seat...I had to ditch mine already for a Spez Avatar 155. it was too skinny for my phat rear end! It was also ungodly uncomfortable.

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    take some money out of the dog food budget
    buy a big hammer
    and get rid of the reflectors and chainguard
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    Quote Originally Posted by NeedsA29er

    Thanks for the pictures! Do you intend on doing anything else to it like discs or multi speed? I see your still rocking the stock seat...I had to ditch mine already for a Spez Avatar 155. it was too skinny for my phat rear end! It was also ungodly uncomfortable.
    The seat actually works for me, which I didn't expect. My years frame/fork can't do disc brakes. The only things I've been meaning to change is do a better rack set up- right now it's on there with bent electrical brackets and skateboard screws. It works but can't easily take it on and off. And I've been meaning to put a bashguard on so I don't trash another chainring.

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    Don't know why people care so much if someone keeps the reflector and chain guard on....

    The reflector weight all of 100g and if you ride the streets they are worth keeping on.

    My FS has them removed as it only sees dirt. My 29er spends about 30% of the time on the streets and I leave them on.

    It's not like the Stout's a DH bike, so if you ride the streets keep the reflectors and live to ride another day.
    26FS & 29Rigid... best of both worlds

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmmorath
    The seat actually works for me, which I didn't expect. My years frame/fork can't do disc brakes. The only things I've been meaning to change is do a better rack set up- right now it's on there with bent electrical brackets and skateboard screws. It works but can't easily take it on and off. And I've been meaning to put a bashguard on so I don't trash another chainring.

    Ah...yeah...but it seems you still get plenty of use out of it! I wanted the Redline when I first wanted a 29er and at the time the earlier standard Monocog coudln't be upgraded either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iliketoridebikes
    take some money out of the dog food budget
    buy a big hammer
    and get rid of the reflectors and chainguard

    Yeah...the dog needs to stay fat...I like my dogs to be fat and yeah I admit the chain guard can go but the reflectors got to stay. Its a law where I am that if riding when its dark...that the bike has to have front and back flashing lights and reflectors.

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    Just got mine

    Bought my Stout from Jenson.com, great price!! I added a White Bros. carbon fork, Salsa Carbon Bars, Shimano Hydro's, Salsa chain ring, surly cog, running 34x17, last but not least, my Rasta chain, Yea Mon !!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mangomon
    Bought my Stout from Jenson.com, great price!! I added a White Bros. carbon fork, Salsa Carbon Bars, Shimano Hydro's, Salsa chain ring, surly cog, running 34x17, last but not least, my Rasta chain, Yea Mon !!!
    Nice dude! How does that White Bros. Carbon Fork make it ride and handle? I have read that the stock Stout Fork is pretty long. I am not in the position to get much for my Stout right now but I am keeping my eyes open and gathering info! The Rasta Chain is sweet!

    Also....as far as Gear Ratio goes...what do you use your ratio for? Do you MTB a lot or use it to cruise? I am using mine to cruise around town right now. I find that I am peddling a lot right now...wondering if there is a more friendly combo for a commuter type rider like myself.

    JB

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    I haven't really got to ride it offroad yet, but I know the Fork is a huge difference, handling and weight wise!! Gearing I'm running right now is 34x17, not to good on the flats, if i was commuting with it, it would be different. Check my friends site, he has gearing charts ,they're under Tools, mysinglespeed.com

    rasta Chain, Yea Mon !!! Dats Da Coolest

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mangomon
    I haven't really got to ride it offroad yet, but I know the Fork is a huge difference, handling and weight wise!! Gearing I'm running right now is 34x17, not to good on the flats, if i was commuting with it, it would be different. Check my friends site, he has gearing charts ,they're under Tools, mysinglespeed.com

    rasta Chain, Yea Mon !!! Dats Da Coolest

    Cool man...I am going to check it out now! Thanks alot!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mangomon
    Bought my Stout from Jenson.com, great price!! I added a White Bros. carbon fork, Salsa Carbon Bars, Shimano Hydro's, Salsa chain ring, surly cog, running 34x17, last but not least, my Rasta chain, Yea Mon !!!
    That looks really nice. How much does it weigh in that configuration?

    The only changes I've made on mine so far are Ergon grips and clipless pedals.

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    the Stout is like $240 now sizes 17" and 15"! @ Jenson

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mangomon
    Bought my Stout from Jenson.com, great price!! I added a White Bros. carbon fork, Salsa Carbon Bars, Shimano Hydro's, Salsa chain ring, surly cog, running 34x17, last but not least, my Rasta chain, Yea Mon !!!
    Did you happen to weigh the stock fork? I would get the Exotic carbon if it's alot lighter than stock. Thanks!

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    hey...
    just bought one of those $240 stouts @ jenson!
    fyi they are now down to 15" only.
    went there with the intention of buying the $750 bianchi sok but decided if i am going to "try" a 29er there is no way to go wrong with the stout @ that price.
    its good to see that jmmorath has gotten so much use out of his!
    i hope to resist the urge to immediately upgrade it for a while but...
    anyone here done a 1x9 conversion? just wondering how that might work out.
    btw...looked for & couldnt find an se racing forum, am i blind or what? if there isnt 1, there ought to be, considering se is in business (unlike a couple other brands that do have their own forums) & who knows how many of the guys here started on rippers in bmx.
    anyway...looking forward to the arrival of my new baby

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    Quote Originally Posted by markaitch
    hey...
    just bought one of those $240 stouts @ jenson!

    ...anyway...looking forward to the arrival of my new baby
    Dude...your going to love it...

    I wasn't crazy about the seat and got a Spec. Sonoma instead...I think I was just too heavy for it...

    The bike is solid...I have already been jumping it and bunny hopping it. Beware...I don't think the rear rim assembly is true though. As some other guys have mentioned...my Stout showed up with some dings...nothing so major that I would send it back but still Jenson needs to be more careful...if someone is going to scuff it up...it might as well be the owner...

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    Seat ques

    Hey guys...I have noticed that a bunch of guys who got the Stout have their seat tilted up in the front...but I have mine level!?

    Am I "Doing it wrong?"

    I thought it was supposed to be more level.

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    2008 Version

    Here's mine. It's setup right now for commuting with a rack and SB8's. BB5 disc in back, BB7 in front, X7 derailleur. It's a great cheap bike.
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    SE Stout

    Bunch of firsts here, first post, first 29er, first rigid, first single speed. I also just picked my Stout up from Jenson for $240. I believe I got the last 19" that was available in store. I'm totally stoked!!! For the money, I really don't think you can beat it, and its a great way to try out 29ers.
    Here it is after a few tweaks.

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    I'm @ work, so I don't have access to pics right now, but - if you are willing to go aluminium, Nashbar still has the '08 Alu Stout for about $340 in 15, 17, 19 and 21. Pretty sweet setup for the $$, if you ask me. None of the parts on it are spectacular, but nothing needs to be immediately removed due to piece-of-crapness either. I would like to swap the Tektro's for BB7's, but even those are adequate if care is taken to adjust them properly.

    I bought one of these a couple of months ago, since then you pretty much need to pry me off of it.

    I like the idea of a Stout thread though, seems a pretty common bike on here and a great value.

    Oh yeah - the Nashbar version is repainted Superpimp Gold and totally debadged. I happen to like it - a lot, but your mileage may vary.

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    Newly Hatched!

    finished building my new arrival this morning!

    left er stock except the pedals & seat. i have a shimano saint hydro brakeset thats been sitting gathering dust for a couple years but am torn whether to put it on. am thinking i should experience this bike in its "raw" form for a while before modding it. i was a more than a bit disappointed in the wheels & hubs, they really needed work before installing.
    rode for a few hours this afternoon...mostly on easy relaxed trails & on the road back & forth. the tires actually worked pretty good but i can see this is going to take getting used to. the stock gearing is not very well suited to my riding style & it takes way too much pedaling on the flat roads here. id like to put off changing to 1x or 2x but...if its going to be my everything bike???

    anyway, all-in-all...was alotta fun! i like it!

    btw...i still think se racing should have its own forum & am tempted to start agitating for it. anybody else here feel the same way?


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    Quote Originally Posted by markaitch
    finished building my new arrival this morning!

    left er stock except the pedals & seat. i have a shimano saint hydro brakeset thats been sitting gathering dust for a couple years but am torn whether to put it on. am thinking i should experience this bike in its "raw" form for a while before modding it. i was a more than a bit disappointed in the wheels & hubs, they really needed work before installing.
    rode for a few hours this afternoon...mostly on easy relaxed trails & on the road back & forth. the tires actually worked pretty good but i can see this is going to take getting used to. the stock gearing is not very well suited to my riding style & it takes way too much pedaling on the flat roads here. id like to put off changing to 1x or 2x but...if its going to be my everything bike???

    anyway, all-in-all...was alotta fun! i like it!

    btw...i still think se racing should have its own forum & am tempted to start agitating for it. anybody else here feel the same way?

    + 1

    Nice Stout love the loop tail

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    here's mine!



    From a recent ride. The only upgrades are the pedals, seat and grips so far. I love this bike.
    Link and other sizes of the pic here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/ondionais/4803132124/

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    I was ONE day too late to get a 17" from Jenson!! I was waiting on payday, and they had them in stock up until the day I went to order it. So bummed. That price was insane

    I had borrowed a friends 19" for a week, and although it was a little too big for me, I was loving it! More then I expected to.

    Oh well, looks like I'm going with a Dawes Deadeye (identical geometry).

    Keep the Stout pics coming though! I like seeing how people personalize them too.

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    Originally Posted by fightnut
    I was ONE day too late to get a 17" from Jenson!! I was waiting on payday, and they had them in stock up until the day I went to order it. So bummed. That price was insane

    I had borrowed a friends 19" for a week, and although it was a little too big for me, I was loving it! More then I expected to.

    Oh well, looks like I'm going with a Dawes Deadeye (identical geometry).

    Keep the Stout pics coming though! I like seeing how people personalize them too.
    fighnut...if you haven't bought that deadeye yet, maybe you should reconsider. judging from Hawaii9er's pics...he's a pretty big guy riding a 15".

    i never was much for analyzing frame geometry but i can tell you that i have ridden my friend's 17" that he got from bikedirect & it does NOT feel much different from my 15". no matter how much fuss those bd shills make about their bikes (it must be a defense mechanism against their inferiority complexes for getting taken in by an internet marketing scheme) i have ridden them both, examined them side-by-side & can tell you that the stout IS superior. much nicer fit & finish! my riding buddy even admits that he wishes he had not been so adamant about getting the bigger size & ending up with the dawes.

    good luck...

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    Conversions??

    Can the stout be converted to multi gear (i was thinking of changing to 1x9 someday)???

    Anyone ever put on a suspension fork on a stout? show me the pics please!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tahoegold
    Can the stout be converted to multi gear (i was thinking of changing to 1x9 someday)???

    Anyone ever put on a suspension fork on a stout? show me the pics please!
    The chain tug has a derailleur hanger built in, so yes, you can go geared easily.

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    I love my Stout............definitely a good bike for the money........



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    camera pic from the local trail:


    after a little mud on its first day out:

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    Listen! Heres my Stout!

    Ok guys wheres all the 2010's out there? Heres mine.. Only have changed the pedals, Soon to possibly do a little stock gearing swap and possibly bars in the future. Woodgrain Green




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    Quote Originally Posted by L09erdr
    Ok guys wheres all the 2010's out there? Heres mine.. Only have changed the pedals, Soon to possibly do a little stock gearing swap and possibly bars in the future. Woodgrain Green



    Nice bike.

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    mijome07 - Thanks! my first "SingleSpeed" 29er.

    audi29er - What handlebars are those? Rise? 31.8 clamp?

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    Quote Originally Posted by L09erdr
    mijome07 - Thanks! my first "SingleSpeed" 29er.

    audi29er - What handlebars are those? Rise? 31.8 clamp?

    They're really old Azonic bars. They're 2 to 2.5" rise, I think, and 25.4 clamp.......

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    Nice bike.simple,clean and green!!

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    hey L09erdr...
    how do you like those small blocks?
    i was expecting to hate the nano raptors that came on my '09 & was planning to change them immediately but have been pleasantly surprised at how not awful they are so now i am just gonna wear them out 1st.
    anyway...luv the green...have fun!

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    Listen!

    Had to put up a couple more.. One shows the woodgrain green paint detail quite well.





    You cant see it in the pic but the downtube seems to have a subtle floval flyer kind of tubing going on. Not sure if the 09's were this way or this is new on the 2010 frame? Some of you 09 riders check your down tubes for me and let me know if you have a hint of ovalization?

    markaitch - I tell ya what the newness is still wearing off so I havent taken the bike on any real rough or sloppy terrain yet. Which I dont plan to ride the mud much anyway. They are the folding Kevelar bead. Anyway They have some grippy feel to them while cornering it seems on pavement and hard pack dirt. I myself dig the added rolling speed I seem to have. If you look them up on Kendas page it talks about the different tread compounds in the center vs the outside of the tire. I think I really can deff. notice that while riding. I really like them thus far..... I read somewhere before I bought the bike that others have used the tires in softer mud with decent results. If your not in sloppy conditions much deff a tire to check out. I think they are also reviewed here on the mtbr website somewhere.

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    Those woodgrain/green Stouts look great. Couple of questions for the Stout owners. Are the hubs disc ready? What diameter seatpost do they take?

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    noosa2 - Thanks! for 1 Yeah the finish is very cool but if you look at other SE bikes they too are starting to get known for their frames having cool finishes on them. The hubs are disc ready. Seatpost diameter is 27.2.

    markaitch - Another thing about the tire switch. If you ride more paved trails or on the streets you may like the small blocks better. Like I say they are actually getting towards like a commuter tire but just with a little more bite and a little fatter. My next tire choice after the block 8's will prob be a even less agressive tread. Something along the lines of a snake belly type tire or something closer to a urban commuter/road type which is usually smoothe on the inside and then has a little tread or bite on the edges of the tire. Again tires you choose or run is all about your riding area and terrain. You can also run mismatch tires something more knobby in the front like your stock tires then a Small block in the rear for a little less rolling resistance yet you would have a little more grip up front when turning on certain surfaces. Good luck on your search! Lots of options out there and try not to get fooled if you know what I mean.

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    hey L09erdr...
    it is obvious the downtube is oval-shaped on a 09, never gave it much thought before you mentioned it.
    floval flyer, hmmm? you must be a se bikes aficionado? one of the the reasons i picked my stout when i went shopping for a low-end ss 29er was that i used to buy rippers & flyers for my kid when he was into bmx years ago & was always happy with the way they held up to punishment. i dont understand why se racing doesnt get any love here. those nashbar & bikesdirect guys post like crazy about their bikes. considering that se is a real bike company, with a pretty cool assortment of models that is sold in lbs, not just online, i dont get it. maybe stout riders are busy riding, not posting...
    anyway...the nano raptors that came on my bike are very much commuter-oriented, even have "elevated centerline tread rolls quickly on asphalt and hardpack" as wtb puts it. thats why i thought i would hate them off-road but they are working amazingly well for my kind of noodling around on the trails. keep in mind, im no racer.
    sounds like you ride your stout on the road a lot? are you thinking about gearing it? its very flat here & the stock gear ratio is awful for commuting. i love taking it off-road, dread riding on pavement. i am torn about what to do. suggestions are welcome!

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    Quote Originally Posted by markaitch
    hey L09erdr...
    it is obvious the downtube is oval-shaped on a 09, never gave it much thought before you mentioned it.
    floval flyer, hmmm? you must be a se bikes aficionado? one of the the reasons i picked my stout when i went shopping for a low-end ss 29er was that i used to buy rippers & flyers for my kid when he was into bmx years ago & was always happy with the way they held up to punishment. i dont understand why se racing doesnt get any love here. those nashbar & bikesdirect guys post like crazy about their bikes. considering that se is a real bike company, with a pretty cool assortment of models that is sold in lbs, not just online, i dont get it. maybe stout riders are busy riding, not posting...
    anyway...the nano raptors that came on my bike are very much commuter-oriented, even have "elevated centerline tread rolls quickly on asphalt and hardpack" as wtb puts it. thats why i thought i would hate them off-road but they are working amazingly well for my kind of noodling around on the trails. keep in mind, im no racer.
    sounds like you ride your stout on the road a lot? are you thinking about gearing it? its very flat here & the stock gear ratio is awful for commuting. i love taking it off-road, dread riding on pavement. i am torn about what to do. suggestions are welcome!

    I had my LBS put a lower tooth cog on. It came with an 18T. Right now i have a 16T on the back.

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    Yeah the 18t cog is kinda spinny on the road but for the trails I ride, its almost perfect.

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    hi, this is my first post.
    i just got 17inch frame on ebay (the olive-green aluminum one, like the pic of proline69 and audi29er). i was researching for what i got online and came across this thread. i'm psyched to see cool pics and i'm very inspired to build it up. but i'm 5'5" in front of my gf or 5'4". does anyone think 17inch frame (medium) is too big for me??
    yama-bushi

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    Quote Originally Posted by yama-bushi
    hi, this is my first post.
    i just got 17inch frame on ebay (the olive-green aluminum one, like the pic of proline69 and audi29er). i was researching for what i got online and came across this thread. i'm psyched to see cool pics and i'm very inspired to build it up. but i'm 5'5" in front of my gf or 5'4". does anyone think 17inch frame (medium) is too big for me??
    yama-bushi
    Im 5 9/10 with a 30/32 inseam and theres little ball room if you know what i mean . Mine is also a 17"
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    Quote Originally Posted by markaitch
    hey L09erdr...
    it is obvious the downtube is oval-shaped on a 09, never gave it much thought before you mentioned it.
    floval flyer, hmmm? you must be a se bikes aficionado? one of the the reasons i picked my stout when i went shopping for a low-end ss 29er was that i used to buy rippers & flyers for my kid when he was into bmx years ago & was always happy with the way they held up to punishment. i dont understand why se racing doesnt get any love here. those nashbar & bikesdirect guys post like crazy about their bikes. considering that se is a real bike company, with a pretty cool assortment of models that is sold in lbs, not just online, i dont get it. maybe stout riders are busy riding, not posting...
    anyway...the nano raptors that came on my bike are very much commuter-oriented, even have "elevated centerline tread rolls quickly on asphalt and hardpack" as wtb puts it. thats why i thought i would hate them off-road but they are working amazingly well for my kind of noodling around on the trails. keep in mind, im no racer.
    sounds like you ride your stout on the road a lot? are you thinking about gearing it? its very flat here & the stock gear ratio is awful for commuting. i love taking it off-road, dread riding on pavement. i am torn about what to do. suggestions are welcome!

    Thats funny you say that about SE ive nothing but love for them - I own a 16, 20 , 24 , 26 and 2 - 29ers
    check them out - http://bmxmuseum.com/bikes/user/12506

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    Markaitch - Yeah Im about the same way as you. SE bikes have always been quite nice, moreso back in the day when they were american made. But thats another story... Few bikes arent made in china now..The quality is still quite good though.

    As fas as gearing, im also considering a 16T cog instead of the 18. Or I thought of keeping the 18 and going a tad larger on the chainring. Not sure yet but yeah I ride paved paths or streets more so than trails or dirt so its only quite fitting.

    Lastly 17" sounds quite right for someone around 5'5. Im 6'2 and have the 19" size.

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    I am looking at getting either a Stout or a DeadEye. Have there been any problems with misaligned disk brake mounts on the Stout that seem to be so problematic on the DeadEye?

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    I put BB7s on mine with no issues except having to put a couple washers to space out the mounting bolt. I think that may be common, but no misalignment issues at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xrockketx
    I put BB7s on mine with no issues except having to put a couple washers to space out the mounting bolt. I think that may be common, but no misalignment issues at all.
    Same issue and same easy fix on mine. I think the tabs are just thinner than standard.

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    Just a few things I wanted to add to this post again since its a SE Stout post. I found out the 09 (red) Stout frames were straight gauge cromoly tubing. The 10' (green) Stout frames are now double butted cromoly.Which is a tad stronger and a tad lighter. So its more than just an expensive paint job on the price difference from the 09' - 10' Stout..

    Im looking for the new soon to be out 2011 Stout to get leaked online. If anyone finds it online please post! I hear its lost a couple more pounds for 2011. Glad I didnt buy a Deadeye or a Monocog or anything now

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    Nice! I was worried they stopped the Stout because they posted some 2011 bikes on Facebook and the Stout wasn't in there.

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    hi all...
    guess this is as close to an se forum as we are gonna get, hmmm?
    btw...any prospective stout buyers seen that jenson is running a deal on the green '10 right now? tell your friends
    anyway...
    all you guys that immediately swap out the v-brakes for discs, what are you doing with your old parts?
    i like v-brakes, especially the recent stout oem tektro levers...wanna sell yours to me?
    pm if int

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    I see Jenson has dropped the price on the 2010 model to $350. Maybe they're clearing out their old stock before the 2011 bikes arrive. Now if they'd also drop the shipping costs to Australia back to $95 as the had it previously I would buy another one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by L09erdr
    hear its lost a couple more pounds for 2011.
    Maybe SE is going back to an aluminum frame?

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    Idea!

    markaitch - was there a diff on brake levers from 09 to 10 model? I like the V's just fine as well so sorry mine arent for sale lol...

    Wombat - Thanks for that info! Thats a good price! They only had the 15" model in for so long now they have all the sizes it looks like. They arent closouts yet, I bet we see that happen though once the 2011 is out. the 2010's will probably go to $280 then like the 09 is. Pfffew $95 is alot of shipping! Long distance too though.

    hks3sgte - I wondered myself that same thing... wish I knew but I dont. SE bikes or that darn Mr Lyons needs to let the cat out of the bag already The end of the month is interbike so not much longer until everyone sees.

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    So I just pulled the trigger on the 2010 Stout at Jensons. Hopefully it will be here by the end of the week!

    Anyhow, I am going to be using it as a city bike / commuter only- what kind of fenders are you guys running for front and rear? I plan on keeping the stock brakes and not getting disc.

    Any cheap recommendations would be greatly appreciated!

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    Nice... Have to change your gearing up some for city riding? You know what? There are no fender mounts on the frame so your choices of what fenders you use is going to be limited to the ones that mount without using frame mounts.

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    Listen! 2011 SE Stout

    2011 Stout revealed!?!? Take a look! Not sure on all the details, have to wait longer for all the details but a pic says quite a bit.


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    Originally Posted by L09erdr
    2011 Stout revealed!?!? Take a look! Not sure on all the details, have to wait longer for all the details but a pic says quite a bit.
    where'd you get that pic L09erdr? i'd like to see more, there was no commentary?
    looks like quite a few changes, hmmm?
    does that white have a pinkish hue, or is it my eyes or screen?
    different fork? one of the main reasons i stick with my oem fork is that i like that it's sorta reminiscent of a landing gear, not sure if i like what i can see of the new one from the pic. different crankset? is that a bash guard? looks like seatstays are welded directly to the seat tube? what else am i missing?
    since i have no intention of buying, i guess se is not all that interested in my input anyway...hehe.
    well,
    just got back from riding, including a purty fer piece to & from the park. i definitely have got to do something about the gearing if i'm gonna keep riding my stout on the road. planning to sell my stumpy (don't seem right to turn it into a commuter & it has not seen dirt since i got the stout) so it looks like my next project is already lined up
    thanx for the pic L09erdr, it is good to see such an enthusiastic se devotee! please post more or a link when you get it.
    how bout joining in a quest for an se forum? i pmed a couple mods awhile back & got no response. maybe if they heard from others too, it would have some impact?

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    Caution;  Merge;  Workers Ahead! Another look?

    Another look huh? These are the pics that will be used on the website I think for the 2011 Stout.



    markaitch - I think its like a bone or tan color that looks to be satin or flat finish. Surprised myself, SE was on such a kick with the cool paint designs and not so much on this one. Your seeing what im seeing about the frame changes and the fork. along with a few other little changes. While im on the fence about the changes others may really like the changes for 2011.

    Id like to see a SE forum but what the problem probably is SE bikes have only 1 real MTB the rest are BMX/fixies/road etc.. So getting a seperate forum for SE bikes is prob not worth it to mtbr.com for 1 Mountain bike. Thats just my guess...

    While I am a fan of SE bikes, im not affiliated with them or anything I just so happened to send the right email to the right person that happened to be nice enough to spill part of the beans sota speak on this 2011 Stout.

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    Id like to know if the bars are the same or they changed those? They look a little bit wider than the 09' or 10's? Also yes the cranks, pedals, and seat are different from what I can see parts wise.

    Looks like the posts are getting out of order unless I clear my cookies in this thread..... Weird.

    I am not so sure I like the 2011 forks either. They are more of a MTB style im more of a BMX Landing gear style fork liker myself. but..... others may like them because they are more of a MTB fork now. They have more rake/offset it looks like and are a bit lighter.
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    L09erdr...do you have your thread display option set to linear?

    thanx for the new pic, it makes some things much clearer. thats definitely a different seatstay/seat tube junction. perhaps they are looking to differentiate the stout frame from the big ripper? i dont think that new fork is more mtbish, looks sorta dainty to me. but it has got to be weight savings along with the rear end treatment & maybe even the new cranks? those bars look pretty much the same as before to me & i think it's the same seat, only in brown...yecch.

    so the stout is se's only "real" mtb...or is it? some might call it a really big bmx. but there is an urban/dj/park forum here that a big chunk of se's line fits right into & some of their 26" bikes are certainly as off-road capable as any other ss rigids. plus there has got to be a bunch of guys around mtbr that got their start on rippers & flyers & quadrangles (man, i'd love to see a 29er quadrangle!).
    oh well, guess i will just have to continue to consider this thread to be the se forum

    edit: ok, i kept looking at the new pic & those crankarms are looking more & more like the ones on my '09 to me. maybe they did just add a bashguard? btw...are those bottle cage bosses on the seat tube? first new addition i've seen so far that i really do wish i had on mine.
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    Listen!

    I'll have to check my thread display option, thanks...

    I think its more MTB ish with these new changes, could be to differentiate but I think it goes back more towards their 08 and 07 models aluminum frame designs..... The fork reminds me more of a GT Peace fork? I kinda dig the brown seat lol but like I say everyone is different so some will like this 2011 more and other will like the 2010 or previous years better for whatever reason(s).

    Id say the 13 and 17 inch Stout could be a big BMX but the 19 and 21 is going more towards a mtb size and frame style. I agree and disagree a litte with the many uses of SE bikes but who knows it really up to Mtbr.com on a SE only forum. There is a 29" Quadangle floating around on the web right now think its also in the 2011 lineup.

    I got one more side pic of the 2011 Stout I'll post it up later on sometime..

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    Is that 2011 supposed to be white? Its looks pink...

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    ... and if we just ...

    Depends on your monitor.... I think its a flat or satin finish, could have a light pink hue lol but def more white/tan or bone color. We'll see when the SE website is updated with all the 2011 stuff what exactly they are callin' that color. I like the green the best, 07 or 08's had a green and then the 2010 "Woodgrain green" were the better paints IMO.

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    Good job!

    Speaking of green I did a little upgrade on my Stout recently. I posted earlier in this post about a gearing change.. well.....




    Pow! 16T Origin8 Cog https://www.origin-8.com/product_det...ETTES+%26+COGS IMO as good or better than the Surly cogs for a lil cheaper price. I think the 32-16 gearing is a little more likeable for my riding area. Not alot of hills or anything and had to go more towards a commuter gearing but not totally. Kind of an in between, happy medium. Also shortened the rear up a tad at the same time. Im still getting used to the gear change but the shortened chainstay length I think I like.

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    The 2011 definitely looks pink on my screen too. I like the brown saddle. I wish more modern saddles came in brown (synthetic) leather.

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    Here's my 08. The only thing stock is the frame, the seat clamp, the rims, spokes, and headset. Every single other part has been changed.


    I'll try to get another updated pic
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    hey ricot83,
    what size is you frame? and how tall are you? i'm still figuring out right size for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Biker1980
    The Red Bike Is Cool As What I Have Imagined
    I am 5'9" and that is a 15" frame. If u lol at geo of the bike the 15 and 17 are close I wanted more of a flickable bike so I immediately thought 15" and it worked out, the 17 would be slightly taller and wouldn't require a new seatpost right outta the box like the 15 did.

    Oh my inseam is 30
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    Just you all should you. It's all your guys' fault I just bought a Stout about 5 minutes ago.

    I was reading the cyclocross forums over at bikeforums.net and somehow I was directed to this thread and now I want a 29er. Just so happens that I'm about 5'8"-9" with a 30" inseam and Jenson just still happens to have the 09' Stout in a 15".

    I wasn't even thinking of a new bike earlier this afternoon.

    All your fault.

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    2011 Stout geometry


    A Seat Tube Length 15" 17" 19" 21"
    B Effective TT Length 587 603 622 641
    C Head Tube Angle 71 72 72 72
    D Seat Tube Angle 74 73 73 73
    E Chainstay 450 450 450 450
    F Wheelbase 1085 1079 1098 1118
    G Head Tube Length 110 110 120 120
    H BB Height 299 299 299 299
    I Stand Over Height 761 784 812 835
    J Crank Length 170 175 175 175
    K Stem Length 90 90 90 100
    L Handlebar Width 660 660 660 660

    Weight- kg/lbs:12.86kg / 26.30lb

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    I like the new Stout. Looks like it lost a little weight, too.

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    Well that new 2011 stout looks dandy and all but I am glad I scored the closeout 2010 from Jenson. I actually like the darker green color over the new bone'ish color. Doesn't stand out as much IMO, I even took the stickers off it (using the Stout at my commuter/city bike) Anyhow, it arrived Friday and I have been riding it around the city quite a bit. Maybe 30 miles or so on it.

    First off let me say its been probably 12 years or so since riding a completely rigid mt bike. Whoa- talk about feeling every freakin' bump! After the first few hours on the bike I started going down 15-20 foot stair sections...hella bumpy as all get out! Then I took it off a 4 foot loading dock. Yeah- that definitely didn't feel so great but the bike rolled on like nothing!

    All in all this is probably the best bang for the buck bike I have ever purchased.

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    Makin' the big hoops spin
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    I am lovin' my stout...great bang for the buck. Only changes (so far) are the fork and the saddle. About my 5th ride after I got the bike I bit it hard and bent one of the dropouts on the stock fork, replaced with a Surly Karate Monkey, lighter and rides nice. Also squashed the rails on the stock saddle, replaced with a fizik nisene sport.

    The pics are from Tsali...perfect trails for rigid/ss...tons of fun.

    My previous bike was a C'dale F3 Caffeine and I swear this steel frame with low tire pressures is MORE forgiving than that bike with an 80mm headshock.

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    I am debating on the Stout and the deadeye. Are there any changes between the 09 and 10 model Stouts that make one better than the other? BD has the 09s and jenson has the 10's. Jenson is actually a little cheaper delivered to my house, and the 10 is that coolish green color. But, I don't know much about components and can't decipher if there is a real difference between the 2.

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    Go with the stout and get whichever is cheaper since 09-10 are about the same other than color
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    I am diggin my 2010 green color! Not much of a red fan, plus the price was cheaper at jenson so it was a no brainer for me.

    After I got my Stout, my gf rode it around the block a few times and decided she wanted one too.Then she saw the Deadeye in that bright orange color... it will be here monday!!

    I think all the parts are quite similar between the bikes throughout the couple years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by txdiamond17
    I am debating on the Stout and the deadeye. Are there any changes between the 09 and 10 model Stouts that make one better than the other? BD has the 09s and jenson has the 10's. Jenson is actually a little cheaper delivered to my house, and the 10 is that coolish green color. But, I don't know much about components and can't decipher if there is a real difference between the 2.
    Main difference is the frame tubing your going to get a tad better frame with the 2010 Stout and a cooler color. Said this above.... but again:

    2010 stout - Double butted cromoly
    2009 stout - Straight gauge cromoly
    Dawes - straight gauge cromoly (I think)

    Otherwise components are pretty much the same besides grips and a few other little touches that are on the Stout compared to the Dawes Deadeye. The rims are different from each bike but basically the same hubs on all three. They are all pretty nice with big room to ride as is; or upgrade later on. Great geometry etc etc...
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    Don't forget SEs have the looptail. Those are sweet.

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    Don't forget SEs have the looptail. Those are sweet.
    Yeah thats the coolness. You can only compare that difference between the Deadeye vs the Stout. I like the double wishbone / looptail the cromoly Stouts had and its sad to point this out.......but, the 2011 has went back to a normal rear end (seat stays & chain stays no longer wishbones) like the older aluminum Stouts came with but at least it still has the trademark looptail.

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    In that case def get 2010 price difference is nothing
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    Im looking at gettin ga 2010. Im thinking 19" would be perfect but im not sure. Im 6'2". any suggestions. What would be a benefit from a longer top tube. Im going to use it primarly as a urban commuter/ limestone trail bike.

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    Caution;  Merge;  Workers Ahead!

    Quote Originally Posted by BigE610
    Im looking at gettin ga 2010. Im thinking 19" would be perfect but im not sure. Im 6'2". any suggestions. What would be a benefit from a longer top tube. Im going to use it primarly as a urban commuter/ limestone trail bike.

    Hey BigE-
    I am 6'1" with a 74 inch reach and a 34 inseam. With that being said, the 19" I have fits me perfectly.

    Not sure if it helps at all, but in the 26" wheel world, I tend to ride 19-20 inch frames. I've ridden a handful of 21's and they were just too big for me.

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    Updated the gearing on my Stout for city riding... put on a spare 36t holzfeller ring I had.
    Makes a little bit of a difference... However, I may go to a 16t in the back instead of the 18t- it still spins quite easily

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    I really want to go ahead and order one of these, but the sizing has me off. I am a little taller than DangDang. What does a Giant large frame equal to? I had a rigid giant that fit (seemed to me, I felt comfortable riding it) but the dang thing was stolen so, I can't measure it. I am torn between the 19" and 21". Do you have to be 6'6" to go 21"? I am 6'3" with almost 34" inseam. Most of my height is in my torso. Help me out so I can join this SE thread for real.

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    well i pulled the trigger on a 19". watch the price will drop 50 bucks or so over night. I was going to get one locally but se is all out except for the 15" so i guess jenson has them all. just a heads up.

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    As Tom Petty says...

    "The waiting is the hardest part"

    Just ordered a 17" 2010 last night, from Jenson. Put a set of Ritchey Logic V4 MTN Clipless Pedals in my order, too.

    Decided to live with the v-brakes for now, as I don't like sleeping in the dog house.

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    Originally Posted by dangdang

    Updated the gearing on my Stout for city riding... put on a spare 36t holzfeller ring I had.
    Makes a little bit of a difference... However, I may go to a 16t in the back instead of the 18t- it still spins quite easily
    hey dangdang...
    i was seriously considering going to 1x9 but decided to keep things simple for now.
    so, it looks like you are doing the same gearing thing to your stout that i am just starting to work on with mine but you are a step ahead.
    do you think there is enuff room by the chainstay to put on a bigger chainring than 36t? maybe 38 or 40? i had a 44t ring laying around that did not come close to fitting.
    the roads here are so flat (& the trails i ride too), i already put 16t on the back & it is still too spinny so i would like to try bigger than 36t in front.

    welcome to all you new stout owners...you'll luv 'em these things are a lotta fun & are tuffer than hell. i am short & ride a small so i can kinda flick(?) it around, almost like i used to do on my kids old bmxs, even do a little small-time urban/park jumping & riding.

    btw...for anybody that's interested, according to a guy at se bikes that i spoke with recently, the only weight saving on the '11 comes from the new fork not the reworked seattube/seatstay treatment.
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    It looks like a 38t will fit... not sure about the 40t though- it looks mighty close. If you buy either, just make sure there is a good return policy if they don't fit.

    I picked up a 16t last night... now I just need to put it on.

    I guess if things are still too easy, you can just go smaller in the rear... down to a 12t?!

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    i went to my lbs that carries se bikes last nite.
    he wouldn't guarantee it, thinks a 39t will fit but didn't have any in stock. so i still am putting off that decision & would kill to get the actual diameter or radius of different rings.
    instead, since i made the mistake of going there with a few bux in my pocket & planning to buy sumthing...
    new bars, stem, seatpost clamp & lizardskin!
    everybody here seems to like wide riser bars but i still am more comfortable with narrower flat bars.
    i used to think it was kinda funny the way some guys post pics of every little thing they do on their bikes but what the hell...




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    Wow you guys are running some pretty steep gearing for a 29" mtb. That or you must like to ride fast or have less pedaling @ cruising speed.

    I tend to see a 36T or 38T being the largest gear you can fit up front. Depending on how your BB/crank arm spacing is adjusted. Which there isnt much adjustment room really when you take chainline and crankarm to chainstay spacing into consideration.

    Heres a nice post to answer your question markaitch about the chainring diameter size/teeth count size. http://www.rotorburn.com/forums/show...umber-of-teeth

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    txdiamond17 Id tell you 19".. You could get by with a 21" if you really wanted to but the longer TT length will tend to make you lean foward/reach out a little more to grab the bars. Maybe no so much if you have long arms though. Another thing with the 21" you will run your seat a little lower vs what you may run it at on the 19" to hit the proper leg extension fitment.

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    Exposing mine!

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    Put the platforms on it temporarily, to test ride. Have a set of Ritchey Logic V4's for it, too.

    After cruising around the street, I think I am going to buy a couple of cheap rear cogs to play with the ratio. With the 32/18, I think it's a little taller than my abilities on the local trails.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bchrismer
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    Put the platforms on it temporarily, to test ride. Have a set of Ritchey Logic V4's for it, too.

    After cruising around the street, I think I am going to buy a couple of cheap rear cogs to play with the ratio. With the 32/18, I think it's a little taller than my abilities on the local trails.
    Look at jensonusa.com for cheap cogs they're like 5-6$ each
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    Quote Originally Posted by ricot83
    Look at jensonusa.com for cheap cogs they're like 5-6$ each
    Yeah...I should have just threw those in with my order when I bought it in the first place, but I boneheaded and hit "send" before I should have. I'll swing by one of the local shops in the next few days and see what I can find.

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    Shake down ride...

    Just got back from a 20 Mile "Rails to Trails" ride on the Stout. We did the rails to trails because my normal riding buddy messed up his shoulder a couple of weeks ago, and it's about all he can do at this point. Gave us some time to spin the pedals at a leisurely pace.

    Bike rode great. Put the clipless pedals on it and it made all the difference in the world.

    Here's the "everytrail" of the ride.
    http://www.everytrail.com/view_trip.php?trip_id=833195

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    im a little upset with jenson. The bike came with a couple of paint chips. the brakes werent set up right and the rear brake cable isnt routed properly. they forgot to put it through the guides. but the bike rides nice. im going to contact them soon

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