Playful long travel 29er?

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  • 11-21-2017
    rj9294
    Playful long travel 29er?
    Hi,
    Iím looking for a long travel 29er that is less an enduro race sled and more park bike. Something that can eat up chunky terrain at alarming speed when needed but also a blast manualing and popping off every trail feature you can find. Currently the Canfield Toit/Riot, the Guerrilla Gravity Smash with itís crush/plush mode, and the YT Jeffsy are at the top of my list. Any other suggestions? Thanks
  • 11-22-2017
    almazing
    Transition Sentinel. 64* head angle.
  • 11-22-2017
    Apolonios
    Check out the new Process 153 29. Long but with short chainstays.
  • 11-22-2017
    Jayem
    Anything with a blown shock.
  • 11-22-2017
    rj9294
    Sentinel? Have you ridden one? All the reviews Iíve read seem to find the bike pretty focused on getting down the mountain really fast and not as nimble or playful.
  • 11-22-2017
    Miker J
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Jayem View Post
    Anything with a blown shock.

    Beat me to the punch.
  • 11-22-2017
    @[email protected]
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Miker J View Post
    Beat me to the punch.

    can someone explain this joke or response to me?
  • 11-22-2017
    titusquasi
    Wreckoning. Especially if you really mean long travel.

    The Riot is the most "playful" but gets overwhelmed at speed in rough terrain.
  • 11-23-2017
    cunningstunts
    Norco Range 29
  • 11-23-2017
    06HokieMTB
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Apolonios View Post
    Check out the new Process 153 29. Long but with short chainstays.

    I haven't ridden one yet, but would agree with this statement. The Process 153 29's chainstays are 1/2" shorter than my '17 Niner RIP9a, SB5.5 and a Hightower LT.
  • 11-24-2017
    Cerberus75
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by titusquasi View Post
    Wreckoning. Especially if you really mean long travel.

    The Riot is the most "playful" but gets overwhelmed at speed in rough terrain.

    Once you get the suspension set right. Which IMHO means a custom tune. It handles rough stuff very well. But the Riot takes some skill and balls to ride higher speeds. Short chainstays and wheelbase, doesn't take much input to change direction. It's not long,low and stable.
  • 11-24-2017
    Miker J
    Blown shock...
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by @[email protected] View Post
    can someone explain this joke or response to me?

    Good dampers have traditionally been designed to allow higher speeds by maintaining traction over uneven surfaces. (Those dampers "stuck your wheel to the ground". If you needed to check to see if your rear tire was flat on your DH bike, it meant your damper was working well.)

    A bike with a damper that makes a bike feel "poppy" is a damper that does just the opposite of sticking you to the ground. It "pops you off" trail features. A damper with a "blown" or defective rebound damper will do just that.

    Now, in the days of buffed out, man-made, cookie cutter trails traditional damping is often referred to as feeling dead. Heavy damping is not as essential and can make a bike less fun to ride if trails are buff and jumpy. Old school, steep, fast chunk is were traditional damping is needed for control and speed.


    You are asking to have your cake and eat it too.