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    OK .. Here we go (I hope anyway)

    I think I'm about to pull a trigger on a new frame.
    Intended use: XC racing and training rides (I'm no good in the air)
    Needs: Compliance, Reasonable weight, Great pricing, gear compatible
    The choices: Juice or an Inbred (or stick with my Paragon)

    Juice pros: Seems to be the lightest of the production budget steel, plenty of standover,
    everyone raving what quick handling it has, great pricing
    Juice cons: Horizontal dropouts with gears (do I need monkey nut type things or a
    tugnut thing on there?). when I get a flat, is it a pain?

    Inbred pros: Just a great looking frame, sliding vertical dropouts easier for rear flats,
    great pricing too, Foshizzle loves it (and who can argue with him?), Brant
    seems pretty dope
    Inbred cons: Heavier than the Juice, can I really trust bolt on dropouts?

    Paragon pros: Pretty damn light, just got it repainted so looks alot newer, Pretty cheap
    (I already own it and don't have to fight the wife off)
    Paragon cons: Aluminum can be jjjjjaarrrriiiinnnngggggg, and it's still not new

    So what does everyone think I should do?
    Toddre

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    Well, I can't comment on the ride of any of those but I just decided on a Salsa Dos Niner for the same function. I plan on racing it next weekend presuming I can get it built up in time. I'll be sure to report back.

    Cheers!
    -Ian

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    I love my paragon so far, and it could drop weight very easily. Mine weighed 27.6lbs stock. If you just want a new frame, I'd say go for it- but dont forget your body armor when your wife gets after ya
    It's not hip hop, it's electro.....

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    I doubt you'd need monkey nuts or anything like that with the Juice.

    I dunno - I'm running a Surly Karate Monkey geared with an old XT front derailleur and an exiwolf in the rear and I can run the rear wheel all the way up front in the horizontal drops. So I suspect you could be fine with a Juice.

    They are definitely sharp looking frames.

    Having said that, and had Inbreds been available in a smaller frame size, I probably would be riding an On-One right now due to the sliding dropouts on that frame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by toddre
    I think I'm about to pull a trigger on a new frame.
    Intended use: XC racing and training rides (I'm no good in the air)
    Needs: Compliance, Reasonable weight, Great pricing, gear compatible
    The choices: Juice or an Inbred (or stick with my Paragon)

    Juice pros: Seems to be the lightest of the production budget steel, plenty of standover,
    everyone raving what quick handling it has, great pricing
    Juice cons: Horizontal dropouts with gears (do I need monkey nut type things or a
    tugnut thing on there?). when I get a flat, is it a pain?

    Inbred pros: Just a great looking frame, sliding vertical dropouts easier for rear flats,
    great pricing too, Foshizzle loves it (and who can argue with him?), Brant
    seems pretty dope
    Inbred cons: Heavier than the Juice, can I really trust bolt on dropouts?

    Paragon pros: Pretty damn light, just got it repainted so looks alot newer, Pretty cheap
    (I already own it and don't have to fight the wife off)
    Paragon cons: Aluminum can be jjjjjaarrrriiiinnnngggggg, and it's still not new

    So what does everyone think I should do?
    Toddre
    if your paragon is jarring, get a brooks saddle and a ti seatpost, even though I bent my ti seatpost in two rides, riders under 200 should not have the same issue...even a brooks saddle with aluminum post takes the bite out of the stiff frame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rootberry
    I love my paragon so far, and it could drop weight very easily. Mine weighed 27.6lbs stock. If you just want a new frame, I'd say go for it- but dont forget your body armor when your wife gets after ya

    Any place to get a good deal on body armor? Do I get it to match my bike? lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by toddre
    Juice pros: when I get a flat, is it a pain?

    Inbred pros: Just a great looking frame, sliding vertical dropouts easier for rear flats,

    So what does everyone think I should do?
    Toddre
    If you flat so often that you need to consider this as a primary factor, you should consider why you're flatting much?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LodiDodi
    If you flat so often that you need to consider this as a primary factor, you should consider why you're flatting much?
    I hardly flat at all but with Murphy's Law, I'll no doubt flat the first race

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