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    Re: The Official Switchback Unveil 9 Build Thread

    I was wondering why I kept hitting my butt on the rear tire on drops. This is at full travel with the dropper down.
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    That'll do it lol

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    Get low!!!
    Like the butcher tread pattern, looks kinda like my Goma only more square.

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    We will see how it performs. Needing to run higher pressures due to jumps and drops changes the way tires perform. I had my Weirwolfs at 25 and 28 today, and anything over 2 feet felt really bad on the landing. I have a big jumping practice day tomorrow, so Ill be testing the Butchers at 38 and 35.

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    The Official Switchback Unveil 9 Build Thread

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    So Im thinking about a road bike for cross training, and for use indoors on my trainer.

    Any recommendations?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FastBanana View Post
    So Im thinking about a road bike for cross training, and for use indoors on my trainer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FastBanana View Post
    So Im thinking about a road bike for cross training, and for use indoors on my trainer.

    Any recommendations?

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    Both are nice. Im looking at the Specialized Secteur also, disc brakes and fits 30c tires. However, its expensive, the Colossal is a great deal.

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    Dont get a dedicated road bike, go for a cross bike which will allow you to do CX races in the fall/winter. I loved my Jake and it performed quite well off-road, alas I didn't use it all the much except for commuting with the occasional road ride. The sale of the Jake is what initially funded the Thumper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gregnash View Post
    Dont get a dedicated road bike, go for a cross bike which will allow you to do CX races in the fall/winter. I loved my Jake and it performed quite well off-road, alas I didn't use it all the much except for commuting with the occasional road ride. The sale of the Jake is what initially funded the Thumper.
    Or a Salsa Warbird.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gregnash View Post
    Dont get a dedicated road bike, go for a cross bike which will allow you to do CX races in the fall/winter. I loved my Jake and it performed quite well off-road, alas I didn't use it all the much except for commuting with the occasional road ride. The sale of the Jake is what initially funded the Thumper.
    Thats something to consider. I dont know if I would ever do a "cross" race or ride, ever though. It would be a no brainer commute bike though. Just would need a road and a cross wheelset.

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    Yeah and really you can build a new set cheap or even buy from somewhere like ebay or bww for pretty cheap too.

    I had a set of Vittoria XG Pro tires and loved them. Not so aggressive that it felt like I was running huge knobbies if I ran them on the road but still had really good, low rolling resistance.

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    I love my Soma Double Cross.

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    Im not sure I would ever ride a cross bike as a cross bike. All the trails where I live merit a mountain bike, and the mountain bike is more fu.

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    Fireroads for climbing for the cross bike, if you get real adventurous then you can bomb some singletrack on it. I mainly used it for fireroad (climbing strength) training when I took it off-road but we have plenty of those around me.

    If you are specifically looking for something with disc brakes you may have an easier time finding a cross bike with discs at a lower price point than a pure road bike too.

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    Or build up a steel frame road bike. Could be inexpensive and if it's really mostly for exercise it'll be perfect.

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    The Official Switchback Unveil 9 Build Thread

    Received this image from Taiwan last night
    Switchback headbadge development,
    This is the sample headbadge the Vendor in Taiwan sent for final approval. It will be "bent" for production.




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    Nice! Looks very clean. How hard are the headbadges to remove/install?

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    Definitely very nice

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    Nice! Looks very clean. How hard are the headbadges to remove/install?

    Peel and stick

    You can remove by hand but it's not easy


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    Quote Originally Posted by Switchback Bikes View Post
    Peel and stick

    You can remove by hand but it's not easy


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    Heat up with a heatgun and then remove?

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    The Official Switchback Unveil 9 Build Thread

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    Heat up with a heatgun and then remove?

    Might melt the paint on the badge


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    Fishing line or dental floss

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    Quote Originally Posted by YetiBear View Post
    I've been following your guys threads for quite a while. I'm an old guy riding a Pivot mach 5.7. The only 29er I've ever ridden was the 2014 Salsa Horsethief 1. I liked it a lot. Rolled up hills and over everything in it's path, yet pedaled really well. Felt like a 29er that wasn't a 29er. How would you guys compare the Hammerhead to the Horsethief? I would appreciate your opinions. Also, what if you break something on the frame? Are you out of luck or are they still building these frames and parts? Thanks
    Been following the thread, too. I went from a Mach 5 to an Inbred HT 29er to the Thumper. Besides the rollover benefits if the 29ers, you will notice the chainstay length and overall wheelbase when lofting the front end and in tight turns like switchbacks. The Inbred has a 17.2" CS length and 70 HTA making for a compact, nimble, some may say twitchy ride quality. down. Almost as easy to loft the front as the 16.8" CS Mach 5 and almost as nimble in the tight stuff. I'm telling you this to have a basis for comparison to the Thumper. Thumper CS sits at 17.5" w/ 68 HTA. The Thumper is not particularly nimble - you have to manhandle it. Note that I ride an XL with 25.1" ETT so the wheelbase is long, very long. Trade off is excellent stability at both high and low speed. Never rode the Horsethief with Split Pivot, but was definitely on my short list. Deal on the Thumper was too good to pass up. Sorry if this is a hijack, but I didn't see anyone respond to the Mach 5.7 rider.

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    Don't think it is a hijack.... And I believe that now makes at least 3 of us that have moved from an ON-ONE Inbred 29r to the Thumper (and all of us loved our Inbred's). Guess that says something about both bikes with all of us being happy with what they do and how they do it.

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    Re: The Official Switchback Unveil 9 Build Thread

    Did you count me in that?

    This was sold to fund the thumper haha


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    Yup, I think it is you, me, Capt and Caprio now.

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    Still kind of wish I kept it for a cx project

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    You are now entering the twilight zone of the Titus/On One/Hammerhead/Pivot twenty niner people. I have a weird feeling that the common thread is a 90 something year old Taiwanese master frame builder.

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    Ha I just thought of that hatore honzo scene from kill bill

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    Yeah, well the thing is Titus is now owned by On-One's parent company Planet X. Scott, the designer/seller/owner of Switchback worked for Titus at one point and helped develop the Moto-lite which is what he build the Thumper frame after.

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    The Official Switchback Unveil 9 Build Thread

    HA! Love this...so true! Serious Twilight thing going on


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    The Official Switchback Unveil 9 Build Thread

    Sorry I haven't chimed in sooner....been a little busy



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    Seven degrees of Kevin bacon... But with bike manufacturers

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    Quote Originally Posted by gregnash View Post
    Yup, I think it is you, me, Capt and Caprio now.
    Not me. I sold a Jabberwocky to fund my Jet 9 and a Yelli Screamy to fund the Thumper.

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    The Inbred Thumpers... TIT for short.

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    Quote Originally Posted by carpio77b View Post
    The Inbred Thumpers... TIT for short.
    LOL.. that could be taken in so many wrong ways!

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    Re: The Official Switchback Unveil 9 Build Thread

    Sitting in the condo in Snowmass, patiently waiting to shred trail for 3 days.
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    Good luck man have a great time!

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    The Official Switchback Unveil 9 Build Thread

    Awesome!!


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    Any Snowmass Updates?

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    BLUF, got my butt kicked on day one, hoping day 2 goes better.

    Ill talk about it some more later. Right now Im trying to shakeoff a hangover before climbing a fireroad thats underneath a chairlift.

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    Hair of the dog my friend, hair-o-the-dog!! You are at the point where you just need to keep it rolling for the rest of the day.

    Been watching some of the updates on Pinkbike, looks to be uber fun race. Good Luck and hopefully you are getting lots of comments on the bike!

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    Yeah, Im trying to not get wrapped around the axle on times, and just have fun with it, but everyone out here is very very fast.

    Ive gotten a few comments on it, people love the color.

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    The Official Switchback Unveil 9 Build Thread

    When I had the bike shop, we had an awesome hangover remedy...combining nutritional supplements.
    Should have put it together in a package and sold it...probably would have made a Gogillion
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    Anybody have issues with the bearings/pivots coming loose? On my Unveil7 Proto I've got the pivot that connects the link to the top tube keeps coming loose. Scott has suggested Red Loctite, but I'm curious if anyone else has encountered this.

    The worst is that sometimes when it comes loose it begins to squeak....really annoying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PHeller View Post
    Anybody have issues with the bearings/pivots coming loose? On my Unveil7 I've got the pivot that connects the link to the top tube keeps coming loose. Scott has suggested Red Loctite, but I'm curious if anyone else has encountered this.

    The worst is that sometimes when it comes loose it begins to squeak....really annoying.
    Good info, thanks for posting.

    Your Unveil7 is a Prototype....this type of thing is part of the prototype field testing process and why we wanted to get several Prototypes out there....provides us the best opportunity to get all potential kinks worked out so the production frames are dialed.

    And is a great way to bring people Along For The Ride with bringing a frame to market.

    I have relayed the info to Taiwan about the bolts coming loose w/ Blue Loctite...it's on the list of the fine tuning needed for the production frames.

    Again great info....looking forward to you getting some more hours in on the Unveil7 Prototype!

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    Quote Originally Posted by PHeller View Post
    Anybody have issues with the bearings/pivots coming loose? On my Unveil7 I've got the pivot that connects the link to the top tube keeps coming loose. Scott has suggested Red Loctite, but I'm curious if anyone else has encountered this.

    The worst is that sometimes when it comes loose it begins to squeak....really annoying.
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    Not really. You bought all new bearings for your Thumper which I assume uses the exact same bearings as the 7 Prototypes. Maybe you saw something during your tear down of the frame that I haven't?
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    Unveil9 production graphics process

    We are getting close to sending the frames to paint/decal install!

    Working with Taiwan on the Switchback Unveil9 graphics....decal mock-up...going to tweak the placements a little bit (and maybe add a couple).

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    Finally built my bike up!

    Hi all- I bought that orange demo Scott listed for sale a while back and finally got the chance to build it up. Coming from a 2007 Stumpy, I'm very familiar with the FSR suspension, and I was looking to upgrade to a 29er with something a bit newer. Full build specs below:

    Large 2012 Thumper with Unveil 9 graphics in bright orange livery w/ Fox Float CTD Kashima coated
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    2.2" Continental Trail King tires
    East Havoc Bars, 711mm
    ODI Ruffian Grips
    Easton Havoc Seatpost, 27.2mm w/ shim adapter
    50mm Sunline V1 Stem
    Juicy 7 brakes, 203/185
    10spd XT cassette, 11-36t
    X9 Type 2, medium cage rear der
    X9 ball bearing 10spd rear shifter
    RaceFace narrow wide, 32t
    KMC X10L chain
    Shimano SLX crankset, 175mm
    Shimano M530 trail pedals

    Brakes, cranks, and cockpit were mostly carryovers from my last build, so managed to keep this build super cheap. I'd like to thank my sponsor, eBay, for hooking up most of the deals. Had a few buddies here and there with NIB parts, and CRC had a sick clearance on the wheels. All said and done, as she sits I'm out a little under $1200 for the full build. I did an at home scale weight test- (me + bike) - me, and I'm at 27.2lbs.

    I haven't had her on the trail yet, but my initial parking lot test tells me this is going to be a VERY fun and playful bike.

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    Ride Report for Snowmass 2014

    Stage 1: Started with a lift halfway up the mountain with a 3 mile singletrack climb to the start. The descent was a 15 minute segment of fast cross country trail down to the finish line at base camp. Very fast, fun section, bike behaved well, used maybe 1/3rd of the travel. It was a nice warmup.

    Stage 2: We had to climp all the way to the top of a big ol ridge for stage 2, by the time I got up there, I was getting tired already. It was much like the first stage, but in the woods, with some hero dirt. It was super fast and fun, really had to test out the breaks when some unexpected switchbacks caught me by surprise.

    Stage 3: Stage 3 was much like 2, but steeper and some very loose bermed switchbacks. Had a huge hike a bike section to start this one, by this point we were all getting fed up with huge climbs just to ride down cross country trails.

    Stage 4: Here is where the fun starts. This trail was a full on downhill jump run, with big wooden bridges, kicker jumps to tabletops galore. You could keep some serious speed and clear all the table tops, even on a trail bike. It was awesome, google video Valhalla Snowmass for some footage.

    Stage 5: Stage five was the start of day 2. It was a 2000' climb up the mountain to the start, followed by a fast, swoopy descent on the top half, with a brief fireroad sprint, followed by a muddy woods descent to the finish. I felt great this run, and the bike did well too.

    Stage 6: Stage six was a two lift ride to the very top of the mountain. The descent was 4000' of insanely fast, rough trail. It was basically straight down the mountain, with several fun jumps. Followed by a painful road climb back to camp.

    Stage 7: Stage seven was the Bonzai DH course. It was steeper than anything I have ever ridden, with two large drops, talcum powder for dirt, blown out berms, and braking bumps the size of 29'' hoops. Well over half the riders crashed at some point on this course, and it took many out of the fight. I was lucky to stay on the bike through the whole 7 stages. It was really almost uncalled for to have a trail this rough in the Enduro race. My bike got me through, due to my caution.

    Overall, it was a new experience for me, and I am glad to have just finished the race, as by the end of day two, I was completly spent.

    The bike behaved amazingly. It was nimble enough for the jumps and switchbacks, and I had no issue bringing it around berms. Through the jump section, this thing shined. No rattle and clanks, it was buttery smooth and quiet the whole was down. Much of the other trails were so rough, I though for sure it would rattle the bike apart. No such thing happened, and I made it through. The geometery was spot on, and I was comfortable all weekend. I even got sever complements on the frame, and a lot of "what the hell is that?"

    My only complaint was the "Enduro brand" fork seals. Utter garbage. The fine dust impregnated the seals, and caused a great deal of stiction, and would damage the fork if left alone. Its getting the SKF Fox seals as soon as they come into my LBS. Overall, it hurt the small bump complaince, and made the fork ride rougher, which caused pain in my fingers and hurt my times. Also, I discovered that my thick Oury grips cause arm pump, as I have smallish hands. I bought a set of Troy Lee ODIs to replace them today, and hopefully that and the seals will help with my arm pump problems.

    Pictures to follow once the photographers get them online. I wasn't very fast, but hopefully I looked fast LOL.

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    Awesome! This was a great read. I'm having withdrawals from mine. Please post your pics and what not in the thread I started in general discussion (just a general hammerhead / switchback thread)

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    Good job dude.. I am liking the format of Enduro more and more, XC is great but sometimes the races can be a bit boring as you get those that are nothing more than endurance fit and just pedal speedily through the course. This tests all facets of the sport and a rider must truly be a rider to do well.

    I have a pair of the Ergon GA-1 "Enduro" grips coming from BikerBob to see what they are like. I love my Peaty (LizardSkinz) but figured I would try something a little different and at only $20 for these grips I figured why not.

    As for the Enduro fork seals, have you sent them any information/complaints to see if they may send you something else? I am sure that any fork would probably suffer in those conditions as the fine, chalky powder gets into EVERYTHING and can destroy it no matter how well it is sealed.

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    Re: The Official Switchback Unveil 9 Build Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by gregnash View Post
    Good job dude.. I am liking the format of Enduro more and more, XC is great but sometimes the races can be a bit boring as you get those that are nothing more than endurance fit and just pedal speedily through the course. This tests all facets of the sport and a rider must truly be a rider to do well.

    I have a pair of the Ergon GA-1 "Enduro" grips coming from BikerBob to see what they are like. I love my Peaty (LizardSkinz) but figured I would try something a little different and at only $20 for these grips I figured why not.

    As for the Enduro fork seals, have you sent them any information/complaints to see if they may send you something else? I am sure that any fork would probably suffer in those conditions as the fine, chalky powder gets into EVERYTHING and can destroy it no matter how well it is sealed.
    I also got a set of GA 1 that are going on hopefully tonight

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    Re: The Official Switchback Unveil 9 Build Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by gregnash View Post
    Good job dude.. I am liking the format of Enduro more and more, XC is great but sometimes the races can be a bit boring as you get those that are nothing more than endurance fit and just pedal speedily through the course. This tests all facets of the sport and a rider must truly be a rider to do well.

    I have a pair of the Ergon GA-1 "Enduro" grips coming from BikerBob to see what they are like. I love my Peaty (LizardSkinz) but figured I would try something a little different and at only $20 for these grips I figured why not.

    As for the Enduro fork seals, have you sent them any information/complaints to see if they may send you something else? I am sure that any fork would probably suffer in those conditions as the fine, chalky powder gets into EVERYTHING and can destroy it no matter how well it is sealed.
    True, but I have had SKF seals perform better in worse. Even Dirtlabs told me they are garbage.

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    I have a pair of the GA-1, I actually installed them with the clamps "in" as I prefer to have the soft bits to the outside of the bars. It probably messes with the ergonomics a little bit but they feel fine.
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    Awesome recap of the weekend! Sounds like it was a blast

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    Quote Originally Posted by FastBanana View Post
    Ride Report for Snowmass 2014

    Stage 4: Here is where the fun starts. This trail was a full on downhill jump run, with big wooden bridges, kicker jumps to tabletops galore. You could keep some serious speed and clear all the table tops, even on a trail bike. It was awesome, google video Valhalla Snowmass for some footage.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Hnd5Gd7NSA

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    Quote Originally Posted by Switchback Bikes View Post
    That trail looks so smooth, it doesn't make sense for someone to ride a downhill bike on it.

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    Unveil9 Graphics Moving Along

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    Ooh so nice!

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    Man, I just did a big climb ride yesterday, and I wish this bike were lighter. Granted I cant complain for what the bike is, and it doesnt feel heavy, but after riding around a 6" 650b that weighed 26lbs, I cant help but notice the 6 extra pounds.

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    Well then you need to lose 6lbs and get it over with, then you wont notice it... LOL lardass!!

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    Only way I can see to lose weight (1 - 1.5 pounds) would be to go to carbon, which would put the frame price sky high, which would defeat the purpose of why we all bought this low cost frame in the first place. So, is one pound worth $1000? That's the question to ask yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by carpio77b View Post
    Only way I can see to lose weight (1 - 1.5 pounds) would be to go to carbon, which would put the frame price sky high, which would defeat the purpose of why we all bought this low cost frame in the first place. So, is one pound worth $1000? That's the question to ask yourself.
    I could drop a pound in the wheels with carbon rims.and e13 hubs, but I am not fast enough to justify thousand dollar wheels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FastBanana View Post
    Man, I just did a big climb ride yesterday, and I wish this bike were lighter. Granted I cant complain for what the bike is, and it doesnt feel heavy, but after riding around a 6" 650b that weighed 26lbs, I cant help but notice the 6 extra pounds.
    I am a little worried about the weight too. I just sold my short travel frame, so I could get a single speed frame. The Jet was about 4 lbs lighter than the Thumper. I already have a set of carbon wheels that I am using on the single speed. I may switch them over to the Thumper for long races. I think I can drop about 1.5 lbs of wheel and tire weight with the switch. I am sure it will help over a 100 miles. While the climbing will be harder I will be less beat up by the trail with more travel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain_America1976 View Post
    I am a little worried about the weight too. I just sold my short travel frame, so I could get a single speed frame. The Jet was about 4 lbs lighter than the Thumper. I already have a set of carbon wheels that I am using on the single speed. I may switch them over to the Thumper for long races. I think I can drop about 1.5 lbs of wheel and tire weight with the switch. I am sure it will help over a 100 miles. While the climbing will be harder I will be less beat up by the trail with more travel.
    Strangely, on tech climbs Im better on the Unveil than my Lurcher hardtail. Extended climbs are easier on the hardtail, because I can without bob.

    I can stand to lose 15lbs, Im not fat at all, I am carrying extra muscle that doesnt do any good.

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    [QUOTE=FastBanana;11296971]Strangely, on tech climbs Im better on the Unveil than my Lurcher hardtail. Extended climbs are easier on the hardtail, because I can without bob.

    I can stand to lose 15lbs, Im not fat at all, I am carrying extra meat that just hangs there most of the time.[/QUOTE]

    LOL.... corrected for you... got to get it right dude!

    Yeah I am sure that I will probably be a better extended climber on my Inbred but it already weighs in at about 29lbs so I am sure that a couple extra pounds on the bike wont mean a whole lot, plus the wheels I am using are a bit lighter than my current OG Flows.

    Think next year I may go for a pair of Derby or Light Bicycle rims, there are TONS of carbon rims showing up on my ebay feed with Novatec hubs in the $400-$500 range right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FastBanana View Post
    Strangely, on tech climbs Im better on the Unveil than my Lurcher hardtail. Extended climbs are easier on the hardtail, because I can without bob.

    I can stand to lose 15lbs, Im not fat at all, I am carrying extra muscle that doesnt do any good.
    That makes sense. The suspension is doing it's job. I was always a strong climber on my single speed, but this **** I can climb on the Thumper always blows me away.
    I can stand to loose 15 lbs as well, but I can assure you mine isn't muscle. I like cheeseburgers a lot.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain_America1976 View Post
    That makes sense. The suspension is doing it's job. I was always a strong climber on my single speed, but this **** I can climb on the Thumper always blows me away.
    I can stand to loose 15 lbs as well, but I can assure you mine isn't muscle. I like cheeseburgers a lot.....
    LOL... and I like beer.
    New Thumper/Unveil9 moto: "This thing climbs like crazy, but I could stand to lose 15lbs."

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    Relevant. Lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by gregnash View Post
    LOL... and I like beer.
    New Thumper/Unveil9 moto: "This thing climbs like crazy, but I could stand to lose 15lbs."
    LOL! Love it...I gotta put that on the product page

    I'm part of the 15lb club!

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    The Official Switchback Unveil 9 Build Thread

    Oh yeah baby!! Had some this morning
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    Quote Originally Posted by breezy View Post
    Hi all- I bought that orange demo Scott listed for sale a while back and finally got the chance to build it up. Coming from a 2007 Stumpy, I'm very familiar with the FSR suspension, and I was looking to upgrade to a 29er with something a bit newer. Full build specs below:

    Rockshox Revelation RCT3 Dual-Air @ 120mm travel
    Would you please do me a favor? Measure your static (unweighted) BB height? Curious to see where it comes in at with the 120mm travel fork.

    Quote Originally Posted by breezy View Post
    I did an at home scale weight test- (me + bike) - me, and I'm at 27.2lbs.
    27.2lb... no sh!t? My build would be very, very similar to yours. I would be 2x (which would add about 1lb), but I'd have carbon wheels, which will subtract about 1lb over the Charger Experts.

    I'm surprised to see it come in that light.
    I like 'em long, low, slack and playful

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    Quote Originally Posted by hokiebrett View Post
    Would you please do me a favor? Measure your static (unweighted) BB height? Curious to see where it comes in at with the 120mm travel fork.



    27.2lb... no sh!t? My build would be very, very similar to yours. I would be 2x (which would add about 1lb), but I'd have carbon wheels, which will subtract about 1lb over the Charger Experts.

    I'm surprised to see it come in that light.
    That sounds too low for that frame. Mine is 32 with dropper, beefy wheels, mid weight tires, dropper, carbon bars and full xt 2x10 with retention.
    EDIT: If I went 1x, $$ wheels, no dropper, and no chain device, It could be 28. Another pound in tires maybe. About a half pound in the four layers of powder lol. However, and those things are necessary for the bike to do what I want, so Im.still happy. The bike doesnt feel heavy going uphill. Ill probably get some E13 hubs laced to KillDevil rims at some point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hokiebrett View Post
    Would you please do me a favor? Measure your static (unweighted) BB height? Curious to see where it comes in at with the 120mm travel fork.
    No problem, I'll take a look tonight


    Quote Originally Posted by hokiebrett View Post
    27.2lb... no sh!t? My build would be very, very similar to yours. I would be 2x (which would add about 1lb), but I'd have carbon wheels, which will subtract about 1lb over the Charger Experts.

    I'm surprised to see it come in that light.
    I weighed it on a bathroom scale, so not super accurate by any stretch of the imagination, so could come in a bit higher. Need to get it to a shop scale to see for sure, but it's lighter than my past builds, and climbs better than anything I've been on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FastBanana View Post
    That sounds too low for that frame. Mine is 32 with dropper, beefy wheels, mid weight tires, dropper, carbon bars and full xt 2x10 with retention.
    EDIT: If I went 1x, $$ wheels, no dropper, and no chain device, It could be 28. Another pound in tires maybe. About a half pound in the four layers of powder lol. However, and those things are necessary for the bike to do what I want, so Im.still happy. The bike doesnt feel heavy going uphill. Ill probably get some E13 hubs laced to KillDevil rims at some point.
    This is my first build running 1x and I love it. The clutch derailleur and the narrow wide is awesome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by breezy View Post
    This is my first build running 1x and I love it. The clutch derailleur and the narrow wide is awesome.
    been there done it a few times, have it on my hardtail. I need 2x on a full sus in Colorado.

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    Quote Originally Posted by breezy View Post
    I weighed it on a bathroom scale, so not super accurate by any stretch of the imagination, so could come in a bit higher. Need to get it to a shop scale to see for sure, but it's lighter than my past builds, and climbs better than anything I've been on.
    Would you mind double checking? I, too, am surprised by your weight... But I'm very excited if that weight is true!

    Have your ridden it yet with the 120 Revelation? Your HTA should be 69.5-69.8*, which is more XC/trail (what I'm looking for).
    I like 'em long, low, slack and playful

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    The Official Switchback Unveil 9 Build Thread

    Here's my Size XL...double layer Powdercoat (read, not light )...have Ikon 2.35s on it right now....28lbs 12oz with the Ikons






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    So I have 2.75 pounds in drivetrain, dropper, and wheels. Thats not too bad.

    Whats sad is, my buddy's 650b carbon stumpy is 25.5, which is jusy under my carbon hardtail.

    A carbon Reveal 7 may be a bike I must own, as it can be built down to 25 even.

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    Quote Originally Posted by breezy View Post
    Large 2012 Thumper with Unveil 9 graphics in bright orange livery w/ Fox Float CTD Kashima coated
    Rockshox Revelation RCT3 Dual-Air @ 120mm travel
    In case you're wondering, looks like you basically built a 2010 Specialized Stumpjumper FSR 29... Didn't know they were spec'd 120 fr/130 rr for 2010. They went 130/130 once Fox and RS offered those forks in 2011.

    Specialized Bicycle Components

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    Quote Originally Posted by breezy View Post
    No problem, I'll take a look tonight
    I'm guessing it should come in right around 13"... Very similar to an Ibis Ripley actually (which is offered with a 120 32 or a 140 34).
    I like 'em long, low, slack and playful

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    Quote Originally Posted by FastBanana View Post
    So I have 2.75 pounds in drivetrain, dropper, and wheels. Thats not too bad.

    Whats sad is, my buddy's 650b carbon stumpy is 25.5, which is jusy under my carbon hardtail.

    A carbon Reveal 7 may be a bike I must own, as it can be built down to 25 even.
    I'll work on weighing the Reveal7 frame next week


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    Quote Originally Posted by hokiebrett View Post
    Would you mind double checking? I, too, am surprised by your weight... But I'm very excited if that weight is true!

    Have your ridden it yet with the 120 Revelation? Your HTA should be 69.5-69.8*, which is more XC/trail (what I'm looking for).
    Happy 4th!

    Have you been able to double check the weight and your bottom bracket height?

    Thanks!
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    The Official Switchback Unveil 9 Build Thread-uploadfromtaptalk1404695399643.jpg

    6,000 feet of descending in one day will make your stuff dirty. Bike did well, kept up with big name high dollar bikes just fine.

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    The shuttle to the top of Pikes Peak, 6 Specialized, 1 Yeti, and a Switchback, plus 9 people all piled in the ExtraBigassTruck.

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    The Official Switchback Unveil 9 Build Thread

    Love it!


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    posted on wrong thread... need to figure out how to delete

    But i have been following and the build looks great.

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    Bike did phenomenal when I was in Steamboat Springs. Seriously a smile ear to ear the entire time and that was not just on the downhill. There were sections where there was a slightly steep, technical climb and I just pointed the bike up and motored right up it. Multiple times I thought in my head that I would not get halfway up a climb only to crest the top and look down slightly bewildered thinking "did that seriously just happen?!"

    Only problem is that I now want another one, but I want to go with a Reveal 7 and full Manitou lineup seeing as they are not releasing anything new this year for 29er. Cant wait for race season next year as I am hoping to top my times from previous years! Plus I want to hit up the Battle Born Enduro if I can.

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    Hello from the UK, quick post to show my new Unveil9, told it was the first one delivered Got it Friday before last, had to wait for a new headset bearing then built it up in the week, shakedown on the road Thursday night then offroad today.

    It has replaced a 2013 flex stay Salsa Horsetheif, all parts moved over including the cables, just needed a new headset bearing and I chucked a new chain on as well.

    Reason for the change was a combination of owning the HF for almost 2 years, fancying a change and the Unveil9 had some differences which I was after ie shorter top tube and chainstays, lower bottom bracket, 10mm more rear travel and a four bar/active rear instead of a rocker actuated single pivot.

    Only the one ride as mentioned but happy so far Much more flickable with the shorter rear end, more standover, rear suspension far plusher (HF had a factory Kashima CTD so pretty good shock wise). It pedals really well even without using the lever on the Monarch. Good range on that so ideal for fireroad climbs etc

    Here are a few photos, yes I will sort the cabling, need to shorten the brake hoses. As pictured it is 31.1lbs with a heavy Hans Dampf, heavy saddle and pedals so I'm pretty sure you could get a couple of pounds off changing those bits and going single ring but I prefer to spin low gears, it's a size Large frame. The weight is the only downpoint over the old frame, about 0.7lb heavier but I can live with that for the extra performance and great value etc. The clear helitape I use on frames sticks out quite a bit on this due to the finish, might look for other options but no rush

    Currently has a 35mm stem which I ran on the HF due to it being a bit long, was going to return to 50mm but this felt good today so will leave it there for a while.

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    Awesome! Thanks for sharing and Yep, you are the 1st Unveil9 in The UK!


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    Got a little update about my Unveil B9, after ripping it for a few months.

    As a rider, I have progressed a lot this year and have really started pushing this bike to the limit. So far, its performed amazingly. Local shop owner/team leader looks down on it, but whatever, it rides damn good.

    I've finally mastered jumping the bike, and I am clearing decent sized table tops on it. As far as trail riding, the B9er conversion transformed the bike. The extra lowness and slackness that comes from the long fork and small rear wheel is amazing. The two things holding the bike back now are the brakes and the shock, which will be replaced this year before race season starts up. I'm planning on breaking into upper mid pack in my age group in the BME Series, I've been training hard.

    Today, me and three buddies (all fast dudes), rode Red Rocks, to General Palmer, to Section 16 in colorado springs. It was a super pedally ride, as it was 2,300 feet in climbing in 5 miles, and I just did a 1x conversion. I was hurting a little bit, but set some PRs climbing.

    Fast forward to Section 16, near the top in a corner, my front tire got caught by a rock at the worst moment, and the bike and I tumbled a few times down a rocky descent. Not fun. But everything was fine, so I ride on. A few minutes later, I'm pinning section 16 on the first open straight section. But, its stupidly rocky, and I take a drop, land on a sharp rock, and my tire starts spraying me we sealant. Whatever, its a slow leak, I keep riding. 200 yards later, I take a different line in a steep part around a railroad tie. You can go left, right, or drop it. The drop's landing wasn't pretty, so I go left, and failed to remember there is a ravine and a large boulder hidden behind it. I'm doing about 20mph, and my front tire gets eaten by the rut, and over I go. I felt like I was sailing, I tucked and rolled, and once on my back, I see the bike tumbling over me. Great. by this time, my tire is getting low. I'm ok, but shaken up at this point after two gnarly crashes.
    I try to finish the ride, and burped by tire in a berm, so I limp the bike back in.

    My friend pointed out that crashing that hard is a sign my confidence has caught up with my skills, and I need to either slow down for focus better. I was just getting stupid with it. The bike is fine despite tumbling over rocks, powder coat is good, I just tore up my new saddle a bit.

    BLUF, the bike can take it, and so can I. Soon I will have outgrown it, but I think its got another season in it.

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    Also, an opinions?

    Hope E4 vs Saint?

    DT Swiss 180s (deal of a lifetime, like 80% off) vs Hope Pro 2 vs something else?

    Carbon rims vs X01?

    Fox Float X vs Cane Creek DB?

    I can pick two of these upgrade I think. Is it worth upgrading the bike or should I go with a new 2015 Spec Enduro Elite?

    Current setup is full XT with alu rims, Fox 34 and CTD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dlruk View Post
    Hello from the UK, quick post to show my new Unveil9, told it was the first one delivered Got it Friday before last, had to wait for a new headset bearing then built it up in the week, shakedown on the road Thursday night then offroad today.

    It has replaced a 2013 flex stay Salsa Horsetheif, all parts moved over including the cables, just needed a new headset bearing and I chucked a new chain on as well.

    Reason for the change was a combination of owning the HF for almost 2 years, fancying a change and the Unveil9 had some differences which I was after ie shorter top tube and chainstays, lower bottom bracket, 10mm more rear travel and a four bar/active rear instead of a rocker actuated single pivot.

    Only the one ride as mentioned but happy so far Much more flickable with the shorter rear end, more standover, rear suspension far plusher (HF had a factory Kashima CTD so pretty good shock wise). It pedals really well even without using the lever on the Monarch. Good range on that so ideal for fireroad climbs etc

    Here are a few photos, yes I will sort the cabling, need to shorten the brake hoses. As pictured it is 31.1lbs with a heavy Hans Dampf, heavy saddle and pedals so I'm pretty sure you could get a couple of pounds off changing those bits and going single ring but I prefer to spin low gears, it's a size Large frame. The weight is the only downpoint over the old frame, about 0.7lb heavier but I can live with that for the extra performance and great value etc. The clear helitape I use on frames sticks out quite a bit on this due to the finish, might look for other options but no rush

    Currently has a 35mm stem which I ran on the HF due to it being a bit long, was going to return to 50mm but this felt good today so will leave it there for a while.

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    Interesting points. I'm looking at a closeout HT 2013 frameset for only $650 but those 18.1" CS scare me, especially coming from a Honzo with only 16.3" chainstays. Guess I'm back to searching more. I was just hung up on its price.
    konahonzo

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