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    Narrowed down to 3 bikes. Which should I go with?

    Midwest riding with roots and mostly XC trails. Some trail features. 150lb rider. All are priced within a couple hundred of each other.

    2018 Scott Spark 930
    Frame: Aluminum
    Fork: Fox 34 Performance 120
    Shock: Fox Nude Evol 120
    Drivetrain: XT 2x11 (will switch to 1x11)
    Brakes: SLX
    Wheels: Syncros 25
    Dropper:Fox Transfer

    2019 Salsa Spearfish Carbon NX
    Frame: Carbon front/aluminum rear
    Fork: RS Reba 120mm
    Shock: RockShox Deluxe RT3 100mm
    Drivetrain: NX Eagle 1x12
    Brakes: SRAM Guide T
    Wheels: WTB ST i25 TCS
    Dropper: TranzX

    2020 Orbea OIZ H30
    Frame: Aluminum
    Fork: Fox 32 Rhythm 120mm
    Shock: Fox i-line DPS Performance 120mm
    Drivetrain: SLX 1x12
    Brakes: Shimano MT501 BR500
    Wheels: Mach1 Klixx 23c
    Dropper: none (might add later)

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    Spark.

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    Racy? Spark. Smoothest? Salsa. Chasing pivot issues? Orbea (admittedly based on a sample size of one).
    Whining is not a strategy.

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    Spark.

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    Spark / Spearfish have similar geo - around 67 degrees HA / 74 degrees SA. OIZ is steeper SA (75 degrees) but pretty steep HA (69 degrees) as well. Most newer trail bikes are moving to slacker HA / steeper SA.
    Kokopelli Racing

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    Here's what you can do on the Spark.-



    Nino does use 30mm inner width rim wheels. I'd go 40 and run 2.5 tires.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eb1888 View Post
    Here's what you can do on the Spark.-



    Nino does use 30mm inner width rim wheels. I'd go 40 and run 2.5 tires.
    It will turn me into a world class racer. Haha, JK. Saw that vid recently and another where a downhill guy ripping a spark rc downhill. Very capable. The 18 was sold but they gave me a good deal on a 940. Little lower spec but plenty of bike for me. Now to find a gravel bike!

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    I love my new Scott, albeit a Genius.

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    Will I need a side load bottle cage for the Spark? I use 24oz bottles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shades9323 View Post
    The 18 was sold but they gave me a good deal on a 940. Little lower spec but plenty of bike for me. Now to find a gravel bike!
    A Grip2 damper is coming for 2021 34s that will swap into your fork. Put the order in now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eb1888 View Post
    A Grip2 damper is coming for 2021 34s that will swap into your fork. Put the order in now.
    What will that do for me? Any idea on cost?

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    Having ridden the Salsa and the Spark, Id get the Spearfish...bc Id upgrade in specs as they wore out. And I like the split Pivot more than the Scott.

    YMMV

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    Quote Originally Posted by eb1888 View Post
    Here's what you can do on the Spark
    Let me me finish that sentence ... if you are Nino.

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    34 Grip2 about 340 bucks-----thelostco.com in Bellingham has them in stock-----thinking of this myself but not convinced it is worth it over the fit4---easy install Lost co has a you tube on this

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    Quote Originally Posted by shades9323 View Post
    What will that do for me? Any idea on cost?
    Makes a poor performing fork that can't be tuned enough into a good quality product.
    I'd call Fox on pricing.

    "The 34 pretty much just sucks across the board, unless you get a grip2 damper in it. If your only option is the fit4, the 36 is worth it for the damper alone. The 34 saves a little less than 200g, but I still think that's a very hard sell since the fork doesn't work very well."

    Post #4 in this thread-
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    Quote Originally Posted by shades9323 View Post
    It will turn me into a world class racer. Haha, JK. Saw that vid recently and another where a downhill guy ripping a spark rc downhill. Very capable. The 18 was sold but they gave me a good deal on a 940. Little lower spec but plenty of bike for me. Now to find a gravel bike!
    Well, he basically turned it into an AM bike by using a 120mm fork and a 27.5 rear wheel, the end result wasn't very indicative of what it'd be like to ride an XC race bike down a DH track IMO.
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    $340 for the cartridge or sent in for them to do the mods?
    Ripley V1 XC/Gravel Adventure rig
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    Quote Originally Posted by eb1888 View Post
    A Grip2 damper is coming for 2021 34s that will swap into your fork. Put the order in now.
    Would that stop me from using twinloc on the front? Not that big of a deal as I have never locked out my current fork on the trail.

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    i have a hard time buying fully assembled bikes. I much prefer to buy a frame and then build it up. Merlin cycles has XT drive trains for about $290 and XT 2 piston for $200 and 4 piston for $235. For wheels I tend to buy good hubs used, Im constantly monitoring for deals and always have a few hub sets. I will periodically build them up with chinese carbon rims.

    I typically will move a fork over or buy a used fork of the kind I want.

    So on a recent build the costs were something like:

    I9 torch+chinese carbon - $600
    bars/stem - $100
    seat - use existing
    XT 1x11 (crank, cassette, derailleur, shifter,bottom bracket) - $290
    XT brakes - $200
    Used 160mm lyrik fork - $350
    works headset - $75
    ks integra dropper - had it already

    So about $1600 + frame cost to get a (mostly) new bike with exactly the components I want. It lets me focus on getting exactly the right frame

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