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    My Air 9 Carbon!!!!

    Well after 7 months of waiting here it is. She's got to lose a full ounce but she's fine for now.
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    LOL!
    looks like a great weight to me!
    congrats, swank as hell!
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    That's a lot of seat post.

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    Cut those brake cables a bit and you might lose an ounce right there

    kidding. not my kind of build, (toooo light for my taste) but props for realizing what you've been waiting so long for.

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    Yeah we just threw it together this afternoon so I'm cutting the brake hoses ASAP. Here's a list.

    frame and fork are obvious
    stans 29er race wheels on freds with forte 26er lunar light tubes
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    fsa stem and ritchey super logic bar
    formula r-1 brakes with carbon blades and gatorbrake rotors (to be replaced with scrub lugdrive rotors)
    kmc x10sl chain and profile 12t cog (alloy)

    I'll post again tomorrow all the parts on the scale pics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by empty_set
    That's a lot of seat post.
    Winner, winner, chicken dinner! Congrats the first seat post cop of the thread . To the OP, other that a one or two personal preference choices that thing is just about perfect. Nice to see the Air 9 Carbons starting to be delivered .
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    From the OP's signature:
    "BadAss Titanium Single Speed, Slingshot Singlespeed, Schwinn Panther Singlespeed and a 13lb NINER Air 9 Carbon on the WAY!!!"

    Looks like you need to loose 16 ounces not 1.
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    Sweet looking ride. Good looking weight. Enjoy!

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    I've eaten chicken nuggets that weighed more! That's insane!!! Congrats

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    Simply stunning, although I'd be afraid to ride it

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    whoa! maybe if i removed my tires and wheels i would come close to that weight. what are the advantages of running a small ring/cog? (other than weight). and where do you get such a small cog? 24x12? do you noticed significantly more wear?

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    Quote Originally Posted by minh
    whoa! maybe if i removed my tires and wheels i would come close to that weight. what are the advantages of running a small ring/cog? (other than weight). and where do you get such a small cog? 24x12? do you noticed significantly more wear?
    The only advantage is weight. Yes, a mini drive train wears off quick enough.
    This is a racing bike, with little consideration for durability.

    Congratulations for the owner for achieving this incredibly low weight. Kudos for the commitment.

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    If it loses one ounce it will be in the 13s and that's all I wanted, in the 13s. I don't care if it's 13.99lbs.
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    Clearance is also an advantage of the Micro Drive but I kind of just do it for the looks, I like it. I run a 24x12 on my Ti 26er SS and I had to replace my chain once in the last 18 months so I'm OK with that expenditure.

    I don't really race anymore so it's not really a Race bike it's just the bike I wanted to build and ride. I'm pretty happy with it and once I get some Scrub LugDrive rotors I'll be even Happier. Thanks for the compliments now I can't wait to get it on the trails tonight after work.
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    What kind of gear ratio do you have with a 22t chainring? Are you running an 11t cog?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Endomaniac
    What kind of gear ratio do you have with a 22t chainring? Are you running an 11t cog?
    Listed 22x12 in his specs.

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    loose the tubes and go tubeless. You just lost your 1oz plus some. Stans are already setup with the yellow tape, all you need is the valve stem.
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    Looks great, glad you got what you wanted!

    Being on the big side of clyde and the aggro/trials side of trail riding, I would probably mangle the wheels getting the bike from the parking lot to the trails... I cancelled my A9C back in April/May and have been on my black sheep the past month and a half or so, not as light but no reservations about riding it hard. I still love the lines on that thing though.

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    Congrats on your new, crazy-light bike! I expected nothing less. You, sir, are a light bike connoisseur. i wonder how that feels on long, steep climbs...

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    Quote Originally Posted by sxr-racer
    loose the tubes and go tubeless. You just lost your 1oz plus some. Stans are already setup with the yellow tape, all you need is the valve stem.
    Plus, you'll appreciate the tubeless on all the glorious limestone we have here in Texass.
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    Dynamite, every bike you post is quite amazing.

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    Looks awesome! What is the weight of the frame?

    Like someone said earlier, if you take the tubes out, you may loose the 28g. The problem is that you are already running super light tubes. I think 2 scoops of stans in each wheel amounts to about 235-240g. Plus a few more g's for valve stems. To make it worth wile, you would have to weigh the tubes to find out.

    Another feasible option could be to put on Wade's Titanium axles in the pedals. I cannot speak for the durability, but I'm yet to see any broken ones posted here. They supposedly lop a good amount of weight off of already super light 4ti's. I think Eliflap has a set under 150g.

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    Awesome build! My road bikes don't even come close to that in weight.

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    Sweetwing cranks! My buddy had a set of those back in the 90's. Those look brand new! Is the company still around or have you been sitting on those?

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    Amazing!

    That 22t sprocket looks comically small I guess with a 12t out back you get a decent ratio though.

    How are the 26er tubes going to work out?
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    Yeah the tubes weighed in at 95g and 96g and two scoops of sealant is around 125g per wheel so no weight loss there but I'm sure that some Ralphs and sealant is in my future. The WW guys all run the 26er tubes in their 29ers so I figured I'd give it a go. My first ride will be this afternoon and then taking it to Austin Texas this Sunday. We'll see what I like and don't like out there. I'm pretty excited and thanks again for the props.
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    I am thinking that would be a pretty rad "cross" bike.
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    I have 3 sets of Sweets one on here, one on my Slingshot and one on my Ti 26er SS. I've had them for a LONG time and I love them, light, stiff and easily serviceable. Also-Not Cheap, not as good. ;-)
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    when/where are you riding in ATX sunday? if it works out i'd love to see that thing in person. i normally ride ~22 miles at walnut creek early sunday mornings.
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    The Eclipse 29er tubes go 60g a piece.

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    Sweet build. Definitely a cut above the rest of your WW bikes, all are pretty cool though including that full rigid. The 10 speed kmc x10sl fits the 3/32" cog and chainring just fine, eh? Does it have the KMC master link?
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    The Eclipse 29er tubes go 60g a piece.
    Are they available for 29ers yet? I know they were working out issues on the 26" before venturing into 29er territory...

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    Nice. Any pics of your lightweight SS Slingshot anywhere?

    edit: nevermind, found one. Nice. Search is my friend.

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    Looks great!
    Lighter than my road bike .

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    A racing bike with 22/12? I don't get it at all but congrats on building your dream bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by reydin
    ... To the OP, other that a one or two personal preference choices that thing is just about perfect. Nice to see the Air 9 Carbons starting to be delivered .
    X2 - that's an amazing machine. Looking for the ride report.

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    Quote Originally Posted by limba
    A racing bike with 22/12?
    Quote Originally Posted by mattkock
    I don't really race anymore so it's not really a Race bike it's just the bike I wanted to build and ride.
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    Ah. Missed that scrolling down.

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    can I use this for my next hillclimb?

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    looks hella fragile for offroad use. but I know nuthin about it... just sayin
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    Quote Originally Posted by reydin
    Winner, winner, chicken dinner! Congrats the first seat post cop of the thread . To the OP, other that a one or two personal preference choices that thing is just about perfect. Nice to see the Air 9 Carbons starting to be delivered .
    You can have "one or two personal preference choices" but I can't prefer to have less seat post? Nice.

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    Damnnnn!!!

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    Nice cranks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by empty_set
    You can have "one or two personal preference choices" but I can't prefer to have less seat post? Nice.
    Prefer to have less seatpost? Is that like preferring to wear small when you're a large?
    Did you happen to notice that the frame design puts the top of the seat tube relatively low?
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    Quote Originally Posted by meltingfeather
    Prefer to have less seatpost? Is that like preferring to wear small when you're a large?
    Did you happen to notice that the frame design puts the top of the seat tube relatively low?
    i'll assume the best and say that he didn't miss that, but that he would exercise his preference for seatpost length by getting a different frame.

    Personally I like the look and would rather have more exposed seatpost than I currently have

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    We'll be riding Walnut and getting there probably around 10ish. Hope to see you there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by boomn
    i'll assume the best and say that he didn't miss that, but that he would exercise his preference for seatpost length by getting a different frame.

    Personally I like the look and would rather have more exposed seatpost than I currently have
    I assumed he was a bonehead since I'm feeling saucy and it was a dumb comment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattkock
    We'll be riding Walnut and getting there probably around 10ish. Hope to see you there.
    woo wee! you're braver than i am. even though it's forecasted to have "cooled off" to a mild 95 degrees, i like to go early. i'll be finishing my second lap by that time. hopefully i'll catch up w/y'all in the lot and get to check out that sweet machine & maybe take a partial 3rd w/ya. i park in the shade in the dirt lot. i'll be in a red & black ozone kit on a soma juice ss. i'll keep an eye out fer ya.
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    I'll be in a White and Black Dodge Laramie. Definitely try to stay till we get there I'd like to actually meet someone else from Mtbr.
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    Awesome dude! I saw this on Nates phone before I saw your thread, I work at 82 with him Looks amazing with real pictures. Great job.

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    Yeah it looks fragile but in it's maiden voyage last night I was planning on keeping the wheels on the dirt but being an ex BMXer I just couldn't help myself so I jumped it a few times and it actually flew (and landed) quite well. 14lb bikes don't mind taking flight but they aren't too fond of landing from higher than 3 feet so I try to contain myself. ;-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattkock
    Yeah it looks fragile but in it's maiden voyage last night I was planning on keeping the wheels on the dirt but being an ex BMXer I just couldn't help myself so I jumped it a few times and it actually flew (and landed) quite well. 14lb bikes don't mind taking flight but they aren't too fond of landing from higher than 3 feet so I try to contain myself. ;-)
    If Niner did their homework on the lay up schedule (bet they did) it will prove very tough indeed. Biggest vulnerability could be a point impact, like a sharp rock or root, brake lever swinging around on top tube, etc. None of my Superflys have had any issues holding up to the drops and my porky body..

    As far as just riding goes, carbon will outlast aluminum and never rust like steel.

    Have fun - you are doing it right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moval49er
    As far as just riding goes, carbon will outlast aluminum and never rust like steel.
    I always wonder about that; if carbon fork manufacturers recommend replacing their products every several years, how come the some doesn't hold true to carbon frames?

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    Very cool bike man, Have the time of your life with it!
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    Thanks guys I got to ride it again tonight and it Rocks! I can't wait to get it to Austin this weekend and beat the crap out of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Climber999
    I always wonder about that; if carbon fork manufacturers recommend replacing their products every several years, how come the some doesn't hold true to carbon frames?
    What manufacturer does that?

    I'm just saying carbon fiber, done right, has much greater fatigue strength - the everyday shocks. Dump it on the point of a rock - well, yeah, that could be a problem for both Al and carbon - but more so for carbon.

    Try a carbon bike - the acceleration is amazing.

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    You can have "one or two personal preference choices" but I can't prefer to have less seat post? Nice.
    No actually you can't if you're riding a Niner. That's why they require a 400mm post. That Niner looks like it has the usual amount of post.

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    That's not at all how I would spec a mountain bike. None the less, I hope you ride it plenty and enjoy it.
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    that is the most interesting gear ratio.... NEVER seen that before...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moval49er
    Try a carbon bike - the acceleration is amazing.
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    Hi

    Did you weight the bare frame ?

    The prototype frames were not so light, i wonder what yours weight
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    Great bike...really impressive work.

    I like the micro drive- I may have to try that.

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    rkj_ Just out of curiousity, How would you spec a mountain bike? Let's run down my spec. Stans wheels, Ritchey bar, Formula brakes, FSA stem and headset, KCNC post, Schwalbe tires, Sweetwing cranks and BB, ESi grips, Edge composites saddle, Crank Bros pedals???? Are any of these even real companies because I had never heard of them until now.


    20.100FR The frame by itself weighed 1302g without the EBB and the fork was 566g after being cut. Both the frame and fork were slightly heavier than I thought they were going to be. It's OK, I plan on getting some Scrub Lugdrive rotors to get it just below 14lbs. Should be 13.96lbs then.


    The rides so far have been amazing and tomorrow will really test it so I am excited!
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    rkj_ Just out of curiousity, How would you spec a mountain bike? Let's run down my spec. Stans wheels, Ritchey bar, Formula brakes, FSA stem and headset, KCNC post, Schwalbe tires, Sweetwing cranks and BB, ESi grips, Edge composites saddle, Crank Bros pedals???? Are any of these even real companies because I had never heard of them until now.
    Please don't be offended; you had a goal in mind and you've accomplished it superbly. However, some may contend the spec is a bit on the"delicate" side. Examples:
    * KCNC are famous for lightweight components and notorious for fragility.
    * ESI are light but no as comfortable as 120g grips (e.g., Ergon)
    * Crank Brothers Pedals are the lightest, but don't withstand bashing that well.
    * The Schwalbe RR have a thin side walls that don't hold up for a chunky/rocky terrain.

    Don't get me wrong, your setup may last forever in your environment, but some people do report issues with the parts I outlined.

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    Wow, that is less than half of what my bike weighs and a few lbs lighter than my roadbike. On a smooth and long climb, this thing will be hard to beat.

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    holy effing cow. me lovey. me can have?

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    Great riding w/you & checking out that sick ride!
    I would have loved to watch some of these haters walk the pretty gnarly ~4' drops I followed you down at the 'nut.
    That or see their faces while you tail-whipped the creek crossings.
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    Thanks man that was a good ride. I took her airborne on the BMX loop and she flew quite true. I'm sure that some Racing Ralphs are in my near future but the Freds were working pretty good. And you're right, the world just keeps getting smaller and smaller.
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    I want to see the destruction pics when it happens. just sayin.....

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    durability ?

    No how no way am I ever going to ride a plastic bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattkock
    I'm taking it to Austin Texas this Sunday. We'll see what I like and don't like out there. I'm pretty excited and thanks again for the props.
    Irony, a 14# mountain bike in a place with no mountains.

    Good to see you pushing the limits, surprised that it didn't take more exotic stuff to get it to that weight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by customfab
    Irony, a 14# mountain bike in a place with no mountains.
    What's ironic about that?
    If you're a hipster or an Alanis Morissette fan, you don't need to answer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by customfab
    Irony, a 14# mountain bike in a place with no mountains.

    Good to see you pushing the limits, surprised that it didn't take more exotic stuff to get it to that weight.
    Id call it an all terrain bike. You dont need mountains to have fun riding a bike in the woods.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BushwackerinPA
    Id call it an all terrain bike. You dont need mountain to have fun riding a bike in the woods.
    You'd be ignorant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BushwackerinPA
    Id call it an all terrain bike. You dont need mountain to have fun riding a bike in the woods.
    here's the problem with that: who gets to decide the standard for "mountains"? People in California, Colorado, etc laugh when you people from PA talk about your "mountains", and likewise all of us Americans get snickers from anyone living in or near the Alps in Europe. Perspective, dude

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    Why does everyone assume that I'm going to Destroy this bike? I've been on my 14.51lb. Ti SS for a year and a half and the total destruction of components to date is 2 tubes. I don't ride like a Sasquatch. I've ridden BMX for 29 years so you tend to develop better than average bike handling skills doing so. A buddy of mine was behind me on a downhill trail last weekend and at the bottom he said, "Man, there is never a reason for there to be 4 feet of air under the wheels of a 14lb bike". I've broken lots of components that were supposedly indestructible (Intense M-1 for example) and had stuff that was supposedly disposable last forever (carbon Flite Saddle 7 yrs old & Spicer Ti rigid fork 6 yrs old). But don't worry BushwackerinPA if it breaks I'll notify you first.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattkock
    If it loses one ounce it will be in the 13s and that's all I wanted, in the 13s. I don't care if it's 13.99lbs.
    Replace the air in the tires w/ helium, that should just about do it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by boomn
    here's the problem with that: who gets to decide the standard for "mountains"? People in California, Colorado, etc laugh when you people from PA talk about your "mountains", and likewise all of us Americans get snickers from anyone living in or near the Alps in Europe. Perspective, dude
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    Sweet,

    All it takes is one video to shut the haters up, so put it up to tame the Internets once and for all.

    Seriously Matt, that is one SICK ride.

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    So many haters. Why are people so unkind?

    Personally, I like it, and would gladly ride the sh1t out of it. Those who think it would crumble underneath them the way they ride probably need to get some skills.
    I see hills.

    I want to climb them.

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    Hey Padre I'd love for you to come and try to keep up with us on our casual Sunday morning rides. I beat the hell out of my bikes, don't get me wrong I'm smooth like butter but they get ridden often and hard (like your boyfriend) I assume. 8,691 posts Huh? Maybe you should ride more and post less. Doesn't your sig say WorldsLargeestWeightWeenie? You would assume that someone with that for a sig would appreciate that all of my components are legit and ride worthy and not disposable crap. I'm just sayin'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattkock
    Hey Padre I'd love for you to come and try to keep up with us on our casual Sunday morning rides. I beat the hell out of my bikes, don't get me wrong I'm smooth like butter but they get ridden often and hard (like your boyfriend) I assume. 8,691 posts Huh? Maybe you should ride more and post less. Doesn't your sig say WorldsLargeestWeightWeenie? You would assume that someone with that for a sig would appreciate that all of my components are legit and ride worthy and not disposable crap. I'm just sayin'.
    1. I find it comical that a guy with your name is throwing around ghey jokes. Seriously?

    2. Yep, 8,691 posts. Since I joined MTBR in 2004 that's an average of approx .29 posts a day. No pun intended. I have found time to ride a bit given that massive posting habit.

    3. I appreciate lightweight & usable parts. Your frame and fork suffice, brakes probably.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Padre
    1. I find it comical that a guy with your name is throwing around ghey jokes. Seriously?

    2. Yep, 8,691 posts. Since I joined MTBR in 2004 that's an average of approx .29 posts a day. No pun intended. I have found time to ride a bit given that massive posting habit.

    3. I appreciate lightweight & usable parts. Your frame and fork suffice, brakes probably.
    Average day at work is spend behind a computer for many people. Guess that guy has not figured that out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Padre
    1. I find it comical that a guy with your name is throwing around ghey jokes. Seriously?
    You show up with a worthless snipe and can't take a jab? And your response is to go to 5th grade level? nice.
    Quote Originally Posted by Padre
    2. Yep, 8,691 posts. Since I joined MTBR in 2004 that's an average of approx .29 posts a day. No pun intended. I have found time to ride a bit given that massive posting habit.
    How do you figure? The math is pretty easy and you're waaay off. If it's hard for you, look at your own profile. They do all the fancy calculations for you.
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    Pretty sure it's more like 4 posts/day.

    The only thing I would change to this ride would be the tires (to fragile for my tastes), the pedals (broken to many) and the gearing probably more like 26/27-11 as I like to mash more. Only reason why is that I weigh 195lbs and 6'5 and my goal for this frameset would be sub 16 lbs instead of sub 14lbs as a singlespeed.

    Sic build!!!! Wish I lived close by so I could see it in action.

    As for Carbon bits, I now have a Niner Carbon fork, Bonty Carbon bar, FSA Carbon cranks. That list is just going to grow.

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    Pretty funny all the smart guys *****ing about how this is going break to pieces if he actually rides it on the trails. Are you the ones that show up on the XC trails with 30+ lb. FS bikes, full face helmets, body armor and mc goggles?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sngltrkr
    Pretty funny all the smart guys *****ing about how this is going break to pieces if he actually rides it on the trails. Are you the ones that show up on the XC trails with 30+ lb. FS bikes, full face helmets, body armor and mc goggles?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sngltrkr
    Pretty funny all the smart guys *****ing about how this is going break to pieces if he actually rides it on the trails. Are you the ones that show up on the XC trails with 30+ lb. FS bikes, full face helmets, body armor and mc goggles?
    I saw a tool with a motocross chest protector, knee/elbow pads withOUT a helmet the other day I guess he was protecting what was most valuable to him...

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    Another superb assemblage of parts.....I think if I had my preference though, I'd do it.........exactly the same!

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    That is freakin' sweet and impressive. Nice work...

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    I don't know any of you folks, but it cracks me up that we get the same derailed thread everytime OP posts a new ride. I think the last one was his Ti bike. I think the same crap happened then. People crack on OP, someone rides with him, others come to his defense as a hardcore rider. I know people will say what they want (I guess that's their right), but I will never get "dogging" out another rider's sled. I am a good rider, pretty technically sound. There are guys I ride with, who ride everything I do, on what most would say are lesser or undergunned bikes. If you have the coin, balls, and skill to do what you want, on what you built, and you are enjoying it; then f**k everybody else!
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattkock
    rkj_ Just out of curiousity, How would you spec a mountain bike?
    I'd have Ergon grips, WTB Rocket V saddle, Shimano pedals, and 27 gears.
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    I guess different people express their envy and jealousy differently.

    I am drooling over this bike and would love to try it, especially that my dream build is very similar.

    Quote Originally Posted by Coach417
    I don't know any of you folks, but it cracks me up that we get the same derailed thread everytime OP posts a new ride. I think the last one was his Ti bike. I think the same crap happened then. People crack on OP, someone rides with him, others come to his defense as a hardcore rider. I know people will say what they want (I guess that's their right), but I will never get "dogging" out another rider's sled. I am a good rider, pretty technically sound. There are guys I ride with, who ride everything I do, on what most would say are lesser or undergunned bikes. If you have the coin, balls, and skill to do what you want, on what you built, and you are enjoying it; then f**k everybody else!

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    Yeah....

    Quote Originally Posted by amillmtb
    Looks awesome! What is the weight of the frame?

    Like someone said earlier, if you take the tubes out, you may loose the 28g. The problem is that you are already running super light tubes. I think 2 scoops of stans in each wheel amounts to about 235-240g. Plus a few more g's for valve stems. To make it worth wile, you would have to weigh the tubes to find out.

    Another feasible option could be to put on Wade's Titanium axles in the pedals. I cannot speak for the durability, but I'm yet to see any broken ones posted here. They supposedly lop a good amount of weight off of already super light 4ti's. I think Eliflap has a set under 150g.
    Lunarlites are like 85-90g each. Not sure you can lose any more weight than that going tubeless unless you really skimp on the amount of sealant.

    BTW, frickin sweet build on that bike. Congrats. I would have no doubt it could hold up to some abuse.... not too much!


    Heck, I would ride and trust that bike, even with my 200+ pounds. Granted, I wouldn't plow through rock gardens at speed, but I would race a buff racecourse on it. Right tool for the right job, right?

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    Thanks Coach! I would never, ever rip on what someone I don't even know wants to put on his bike. I don't get it, maybe I was just raised right. I've ridden/tested all the parts on my bike so I went with what I know and like. Everyone always says that part-x is crap even when they've never ridden it or had any first hand experience with it. Oh wait I found a picture on-line of that part broken so it must be crap! What were the circumstances of the failure? Operator error maybe? I'm not some punk kid, I'm a 39 yr. old man with more than a little experience riding and racing bicycles. I've ridden or raced Mammoth Mtn., Big Bear, Squaw Valley, Northstar, Deer Valley, Moab, Bryan Head, Sundance, Durango (Purgatory), Vail, Mt.Snow Vt., Plattekill NY., Boulder City, Virgin, Angel Fire, South Mtn. Az., Whistler and of course The North Shore among many others. If anyone wants to question my riding ability ask Scott @ Go-Ride in Salt Lake or Kyle Bennet (Butter) the 3 time BMX World Champion and 3 time NBL Champion whose back yard I frequent. Trust me if I break this bike or a part on it I will post it here for all of the Haters to laugh at. I know they'll see it, they're too busy on here to actually be riding.
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    Very similar to how I specd bikes, in the 90s. J/K
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    People, this is a fap off/show bike that gets ridden hard, maybe "like hell" according to the owner, often.

    Don't take it too seriously.

    Now move along...

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    honestly, this is the problem with your niner posts -

    "I''ve ridden or raced Mammoth Mtn., Big Bear, Squaw Valley, Northstar, Deer Valley, Moab, Bryan Head, Sundance, Durango (Purgatory), Vail, Mt.Snow Vt., Plattekill NY., Boulder City, Virgin, Angel Fire, South Mtn. Az., Whistler and of course The North Shore among many others. If anyone wants to question my riding ability ask Scott @ Go-Ride in Salt Lake or Kyle Bennet (Butter) the 3 time BMX World Champion and 3 time NBL Champion whose back yard I frequent. Trust me if I break this bike or a part on it I will post it here for all of the Haters to laugh at. I know they'll see it, they're too busy on here to actually be riding. [/QUOTE]

    If you really didn't care abpu tthis bike you may have just posted your bike w/o all the other garbage and 13.12354025087215897245897234589723945823945 weight breakdown.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattkock
    Trust me if I break this bike or a part on it I will post it here for all of the Haters to laugh at. I know they'll see it, they're too busy on here to actually be riding.
    Nice job Matt. I think a lot of people here are just jealous of what you have built. I remember Padre saying Stans Crow tires were good CX tires yet they have some good endurance race victories under their belt now (at least here in very rocky Colorado). Those cranks are over the top! Other than the super lightweight/skinny race tires I see nothing weak about it and would ride that bike anywhere.

    Have you had any flats with the FF/tubes setup?

    Here is my setup with "heavy" stuff still in the 18# range.

    http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?t=645340

    The Maxxis Aspen tires are very very nice, have good grip and can plow through rock gardens at full speed. That is the only change I would make after the sub 14# feeling wears off!

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    Nice bike but it would be faster if it was the orange frame. Just sayin' ...

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    BrewDog, you're in Houston? Me too. If you'd like we can hook up and ride together whenever you want. Me and some buddies make a trip to Austin every other weekend if you'd like to come.

    2mellow, thanks. I'm already eyeing some I9 wheels as my Beater set with some Racing Ralphs set up tubeless.
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    I9s are about 1800g. My Chris King/Crest/DT wheels built by Dave Thomas came to 1630 for the pair with the yellow tape on them. I'm about 190# riding an IF Ti Deluxe w/Niner fork and have over 1k miles on the wheels with no problems. Tires are SB8s running tubeless at <24#.

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    Thats my dream bike, but I can see me breaking something on it pretty quickly

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach417
    I don't know any of you folks, but it cracks me up that we get the same derailed thread everytime OP posts a new ride. I think the last one was his Ti bike. I think the same crap happened then. People crack on OP, someone rides with him, others come to his defense as a hardcore rider. I know people will say what they want (I guess that's their right), but I will never get "dogging" out another rider's sled. I am a good rider, pretty technically sound. There are guys I ride with, who ride everything I do, on what most would say are lesser or undergunned bikes. If you have the coin, balls, and skill to do what you want, on what you built, and you are enjoying it; then f**k everybody else!
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattkock
    Yeah we just threw it together this afternoon so I'm cutting the brake hoses ASAP. Here's a list.

    frame and fork are obvious
    stans 29er race wheels on freds with forte 26er lunar light tubes
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    fsa stem and ritchey super logic bar
    formula r-1 brakes with carbon blades and gatorbrake rotors (to be replaced with scrub lugdrive rotors)
    kmc x10sl chain and profile 12t cog (alloy)

    I'll post again tomorrow all the parts on the scale pics.
    Could you tell me the Seat post size and what Headset are you using? thks

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    Been watching this for a couple of weeks now and still comments are coming , sceptical or good ....

    Man thats an awesome build ! the bike is sensational looking , its an XC/trail ripper . Full credit to you as its the lightest yet rideable bike i have seen yet , tyres to RR's or something similar might make it better around my trails at this time of year but that my take on it.

    If the OP can manage them tyres on his trails, SWEET !

    Hey a set of EDGE XC wheels would set that baby on fire
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    Thanks ozzy. I'd love some Edge wheels but they were a little pricey but I'm sure I'll figure out a way to get some in the future. The Freds are fine for most of our Texas trails and since I've been running the 26er versions for a year and a half I've figured out how far they're going to drift before catching and the 29er versions have a little more bite.
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    Guess I missed this follow up thread to your intial "hopes" thread. That bike isn't for me, but mad props for you if it suits your riding and you're actually riding it I know I would easily mangle that thing with my lack of finese. Must accelerate like a bat out of hell though Would love to see a pic of you airing it out on that thing and quiet the nay sayers - I am a nay sayer to a bike like that for me, but if it works for someone else fine.
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    F!U!C!K!

    If I come over can I ride it?

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    Yeah I'll let anyone under 180lbs ride it and I have. It really flies! I'm going to get some Air pics in Austin the next time we go which should be next weekend.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattkock
    I beat the hell out of my bikes, don't get me wrong I'm smooth like butter but they get ridden often and hard (like your boyfriend) I assume. 8,691 posts Huh? Maybe you should ride more and post less.
    I'll take his "boyfriend" anyday.
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    I guess I feel very sorry for Many People during their Average Day. No computer or Cell Phone for me. Until AT&T takes away my land line I will NEVER have a cell phone. Cell Phones are the biggest scam perpetrated on humanity since "Virgin Birth".
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattkock
    I guess I feel very sorry for Many People during their Average Day. No computer or Cell Phone for me. Until AT&T takes away my land line I will NEVER have a cell phone. Cell Phones are the biggest scam perpetrated on humanity since "Virgin Birth".
    Yeah they're so terrible. Today I used mine to help meet up with a fellow rider to buy a helmet. Used the GPS & map to find his place of work, then the phone to tell him I'd arrived. What the hell was I thinking, could have used the paper maps that I threw away years ago, and stopped to use a pay phone. Wait...do they even make pay phones anymore?

    BTW, sweet ride...wonder if I'd like the ride, gotta try one some time.

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    I definitely like your build style. That bike looks like it's flying just sitting there. Nice job.

    You've inspired me to build something very similar although I weigh 220 dry and ride National Trail at least three times a week. I figure my build would need some beefier wheels, tires, cranks, brakes, post, handlebar, stem, seat, and pedals. The rest should work though. That would probably put my build at 18-20 lbs. Does that AIR 9 Carbon frame have a weight limit?

    The most kick ass bike I've seen in a long time. Kickin ass!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattkock
    Yeah I'll let anyone under 180lbs ride it and I have. It really flies! I'm going to get some Air pics in Austin the next time we go which should be next weekend.
    Do you ever come to Dallas area?

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    I think I'm coming up the first weekend in October to ride (I forgot the name) the Downtown Park trail system, I heard it's SS FUN!!! I'll let you know when we come up and we can hook up to ride. We need a guide.
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    Here are some more shots after I cut the brake lines and after my Walnut Creek ride a couple weeks back.
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    Yeh I am 195 and could finesse that beauty bettter than I do my girlfreind!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Needs wider tires imo... Just looks a little to street and not knarley dirt monster like it should.

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    I've been rockin' the 26er Freds for over a year and a half without problems and the 29er versions have even more bite. Are they as BadAss as some 2.4" Ralphs? Not even close but for the Houston area they work pretty damn good and roll FAST! I'm getting some I9 wheels as a beater set and putting on the new 29er Rocket Rons and running them tubeless, it will add some weight but should ride freakin' awesome. I built it up as kind of a class in what could I actually beat up and get under 14lbs. Niner was mistaken about their frame and fork weights so it's a butthair over 14lbs but with some scrub rotors I'll be just below. I've got just over 70 miles on it since last Tuesday and I've got to say that it's my favorite bike so far. I can't wait to build my Sub 20lbs Santa Cruz Tallboy next year, stay tuned.
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    That thing looks it time-warped in from the future. Just ridiculously clean and sleek for a mountain bike.

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    have you thought about an Action Tec Ti front ring? that should save you a few grams!
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    Your A9C rocks! Looking forward to your Tallboy build.
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    Looks super sweet! I guess no rides for us 200lbs+ guys.

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    Yeah I've got an Action Tec 24t ring but it's heavier than my Salsa 22t so I'm riding the Salsa. The only component I'm even a little worried about is the wheelset just because it has a 170lb weight limit. Other than that I feel pretty good about beating her up.
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    I'm heading out tomorrow morning for a ride and we're actually going to shoot some pictures. No one ever wants to stop riding long enough to shoot so my wife is coming and riding my Ti 26er SS and bringing her camera so stay tuned I should get 'em up tomorrow afternoon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattkock
    I'm heading out tomorrow morning for a ride and we're actually going to shoot some pictures. No one ever wants to stop riding long enough to shoot so my wife is coming and riding my Ti 26er SS and bringing her camera so stay tuned I should get 'em up tomorrow afternoon.
    Killer. You went to the 'nut again? Can't wait to see 'em.
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    Man my camera sucks! The shots turned out awful except for one i shot of my wife so I've got to get a friend of mine out there with some good equipment. Stay tuned.
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    Maybe it's time to consider spending an equivalent amount/% of $$ on a decent camera as you do on your bikes just a thought.

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    Man my camera sucks! The shots turned out awful except for one i shot of my wife so I've got to get a friend of mine out there with some good equipment. Stay tuned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattkock
    Man my camera sucks! The shots turned out awful except for one i shot of my wife so I've got to get a friend of mine out there with some good equipment. Stay tuned.
    I have a D90. Let me know if you want to hit it again. I've also been trying to decide between a ContourHD and a GoPro, but no guarantee that a decision will be made by the time you're ready to ride.
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    Im gonna be at the nut next weekend...but i would snap the pedals right off in the parking lot. If you weigh 201 lbs they break off instantly.

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    We demand pics of the A9C !!!!!

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    I honestly don't know what the problem was, this camera has taken decent riding pics before but today the only one that came out even OK is this pic of my wife.

    Here are a couple crappy ones of the A9C.
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    Cool not too bad. Getting my A9c small sometime November. So here I am getting my fill off you guys.......awesome, keep posting more pics when you get a new cam.

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    I'm gonna try again this afternoon if the weather holds.
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    awfully nice of you to give your wife the smoother riding ti bike FWIW, you killed it on the build, I couldn't ride those light wheels(yet) but, a 14lb rideable bike is the bees knees.

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    Sorry,
    Just not a fan of that drive train. it looks like a trials bike.
    just run a 32/18. or the ever popular 32/20. the go everywhere gearing.

    just my 2 cents, other than that, yeah the bike is nice.

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    The Micro drivetrain is just something I did on my Ti bike first because I had the 24t ring so I did it again on the A9C because I had the 22t ring. Smaller ring+smaller cog+less chain=less weight+more ground clearance and the gearing is like a 32/18 anyways just cooler looking. IMHO
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    hell yea. i hope niner has one of these at at the dirt demo tomarrow(interbike)

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattkock
    Yeah I'll let anyone under 180lbs ride it and I have. It really flies! I'm going to get some Air pics in Austin the next time we go which should be next weekend.

    honestly id rather ride the panther or the Ti hab bike
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    are the air 9 carbon's actually being shipped? I'm trying to track one down via UK dealers and so far haven't had any luck with getting a dealer who can tell me if they are available, and if not, when they might be.

    Does anyone have any info on availability in the UK?

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    Ok so this is getting ridiculous but I went to Austin again yesterday with a Photog friend of mine and we got exactly 0 riding shots. I just can't seem to pry my hands off the bars and stop riding long enough to get some shots but I swear and promise that we're going to try tonight. I need a Photog friend that doesn't ride and just wants to shoot pics.
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    Wow, I love it.

    I like that drive train. Been wanting to do a setup like that for a long time.

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    Trust me Nuck, you'd LOVE riding this bike. Since I own the Panther and the Ti Hab I know that the Air 9 Carbon rides quite a bit better. You are more than welcome to try it out if you ever make it out with us.
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    brewdog!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    If you guys go to page 3 of this thread you'll see a guy calling himself brewdog giving me crap about my bike, well I went to his profile and he lives in the same city as me and I've sent him several inbox messages asking him if he'd like to hook up and ride together without a single response. I don't understand people that I don't know, have never met and will never meet saying that I never ride my bikes or that they will break or saying that they're show bikes (whatever that means) without knowing me. I will gladly ride with anyone on here on any terrain in any state anytime. Am I the fastest guy on mtbr? Not by a long shot but I ride pretty good and Love to do so. If you want to talk smack at least be ready to come on the rides I invite you on (brewdog) especially if we live in the same city. If anyone on here knows brewdog let him know that I'm calling him out.
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    I would have replied to the first PM if I wanted to meet up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattkock
    If you guys go to page 3 of this thread you'll see a guy calling himself brewdog giving me crap about my bike, well I went to his profile and he lives in the same city as me and I've sent him several inbox messages asking him if he'd like to hook up and ride together without a single response. I don't understand people that I don't know, have never met and will never meet saying that I never ride my bikes or that they will break or saying that they're show bikes (whatever that means) without knowing me. I will gladly ride with anyone on here on any terrain in any state anytime. Am I the fastest guy on mtbr? Not by a long shot but I ride pretty good and Love to do so. If you want to talk smack at least be ready to come on the rides I invite you on (brewdog) especially if we live in the same city. If anyone on here knows brewdog let him know that I'm calling him out.
    Dear Dude, you have a ridiculously beautiful bike that everyone envys and wants......Please don't bother trying to convince people otherwise! Let them **** off with there useless comments and ideas....... Besides you don't want a loser trying to **** your bike on a ride......come on you don't work for niner and you are not a religious fanatic trying to convert everyone to the A9C. You just keep doing your **** and keep the A9C lovers posted. We have love that bike and **** the retards who think they know better

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    Cool-blue Rhythm Not trying to be an instigator...

    ...okay, maybe I am...

    Quote Originally Posted by brewdog
    I would have replied to the first PM if I wanted to meet up.
    Replying was your specialty on those previous posts...

    Quote Originally Posted by brewdog
    People, this is a fap off/show bike that gets ridden hard, maybe "like hell" according to the owner, often.

    Don't take it too seriously.

    Now move along...
    Most people don't have an opportunity to take Matt up on his ride offers, you do...if I lived nearby, I would meet up and see for myself if it is as you describe, "a fap off/show bike" BEFORE I posted a response...YMMV, obviously...

    Quote Originally Posted by brewdog
    honestly, this is the problem with your niner posts -

    "I''ve ridden or raced Mammoth Mtn., Big Bear, Squaw Valley, Northstar, Deer Valley, Moab, Bryan Head, Sundance, Durango (Purgatory), Vail, Mt.Snow Vt., Plattekill NY., Boulder City, Virgin, Angel Fire, South Mtn. Az., Whistler and of course The North Shore among many others. If anyone wants to question my riding ability ask Scott @ Go-Ride in Salt Lake or Kyle Bennet (Butter) the 3 time BMX World Champion and 3 time NBL Champion whose back yard I frequent. Trust me if I break this bike or a part on it I will post it here for all of the Haters to laugh at. I know they'll see it, they're too busy on here to actually be riding. "

    If you really didn't care abpu tthis bike you may have just posted your bike w/o all the other garbage and 13.12354025087215897245897234589723945823945 weight breakdown.
    It ain't braggin', if you can back it up...just sayin'...

    It's funny, in the WW forum, mostly props...in the 29er forum, it's all over the map...

    Matt, if I am ever in your part of town, or if you ever travel to SoCal, I would thoroughly enjoy seeing the bike in person and see you skills...peace out!

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    I dunno Dude, seems like a good opportunity to take this guy on some knarly stuff and see if that fly weight, carbon weenie bike holds or folds
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    Quote Originally Posted by brewdog
    I would have replied to the first PM if I wanted to meet up.
    you got called out and you puss3d out... love it.
    classic internet jockey.
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    top secret foto of brewdog...


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    You'll soon have another member of the A9C militia

    Cant wait to get the build done later this week. You'll have to let me know when you're in SLC again and we can hit Park City or the Crest etc.
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    Cool-blue Rhythm Sweeeetness!!!

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    Well I guess brewdog doesn't ride anymore he just tells other people that they don't either. Here are some pictures of me NOT riding my bike at our local trail today. Zamattery, I'll definitely let you know when I'm coming back to SLC, I LOVE it there!!! Great build so far! The last shot is just because I CAN!!!
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    Nice shots, the first one is impressive considering your are riding fully rigid. So when are you coming to Dallas again?

    I need to try your bike before building my next AC9.

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    I should be up there the 3rd. week of October. PM me your # and I'll call for a guided tour.
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    Quote Originally Posted by meltingfeather
    you got called out and you puss3d out... love it.
    classic internet jockey.
    well you'll love this - I would have had to be in to meet up before I pussed out, correct? Surely someone has done a study on that and printed the results, therefore it is true. I never said I wanted to see or ride that bike.


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    Congrats on riding that bike. You win.

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    If you actually rode bikes I would think that any invitation to ride would be gladly accepted. I will ride with anyone in any place that they want to ride, even you brewdog. If you ever plan on getting back on your bike hit me up and we'll go out and kick up dust. I'll be at the Anthills on November 6th for a BMX Jam and I'm at Cypresswood every Wednesday at 5:30pm for the Davids Cycles ride.
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    Quote Originally Posted by schnee
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    Quote Originally Posted by brewdog
    well you'll love this - I would have had to be in to meet up before I pussed out, correct?
    no, not correct. you got called out on your internet jockey hating and instead of manning up and taking matt up on his offer, which might have meant you had to eat your words, you pussed out.
    Quote Originally Posted by brewdog
    Surely someone has done a study on that and printed the results, therefore it is true.
    I don't need a study to laugh when a puss pusses out.
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    I never said I wanted to see or ride that bike.
    You just want to hate from your office chair... nice. Have fun with that.
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    /\ Indeed! We may be coming back to Walnut this Sunday so I'll let you and Dustin know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattkock
    /\ Indeed! We may be coming back to Walnut this Sunday so I'll let you and Dustin know.
    Sweet! If I get lucky on opening day of bow season I'll be back in town. Usual time? I'll bring the new GoPro Hero for sure and maybe the D90.
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    My buddy spotted you at Walnut on Sunday (guy riding a cross bike). He asked if I knew about the 14lb Air 9... I've been trolling this thread for a while! I'd say you're legit! Would love to see that thing in person! Sick bike.

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    Brewdog,

    In the UK you wouid be ***** slapped all over the place for the way you have behaved in this thread. If you're gonna be a keyboard jockey at least MTFU and accept it when youv'e been shown to be a wimp.

    Top work on the ultra-light Niner, Mattkock.

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    There's a difference between being scared to do something(puss) and not wanting to do something(lacking desire).

    If I were in the UK and got b!tch slapped I'd be b!tch slapping someone back, but I'm not in the UK so no biggie. What would be the point of riding together, to stroll through a park or something? Would I need to say things like "OMFG that bike is so stupid gnar, can I touch it?" or maybe "I'm going to go hide in the woods while you ride by so I can see it in action."?? As I said in a PM to matt, it was smack talk that went too far. to each his own.

    Would you guys be happier if I deleted my posts? I will if it makes everyone happy.

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    Don't delete your posts just come ride your bike with us. If I got on here and told people that someone built a show bike that will never get ridden (which I would never do) and then the person in question asked me to come ride with them I would definitely do it. I Love riding bikes with anyone, even keyboard jockeys (Classic) so my offer still and will always stand. If you feel frisky just let me know where and when and I'll be there. Maybe even with bells on, my bike does have one. ;-)
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    Your bike and this thread make me very happy.

    Nice build, man! And keep on making fools of covetous dimwits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattkock
    Well I guess brewdog doesn't ride anymore he just tells other people that they don't either. Here are some pictures of me NOT riding my bike at our local trail today. Zamattery, I'll definitely let you know when I'm coming back to SLC, I LOVE it there!!! Great build so far! The last shot is just because I CAN!!!
    great pics... nice seeing someone being stoked about their ride!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattkock
    I Love riding bikes with anyone, even keyboard jockeys (Classic) so my offer still and will always stand. If you feel frisky just let me know where and when and I'll be there. Maybe even with bells on, my bike does have one. ;-)


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    ... and if we just ... We ALL need to stop sippin' the haterade...


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    Walnut Creek Sunday!!!!!!

    Well it looks like the wife and I are headed back to Walnut Creek this Sunday to ride but mostly to take pictures so if you meet us plan on a slow ride with LOTS of stops for photos. Hey Feather bring your GoPro!!!!!!!!!
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    aahhhahaha! This thread is awesome. How are you going to look at a ride like this Niner and decide it sucks?

    This forum has more Poindexters per square foot than a combined Trekkie/ Furrie convention, but Brewdog and that other kook with the "Obey" avatar really stand out as bitter misanthropes. Do these Darryls hold a grudge against the successful businessman who buys a ten thousand dollar Matisse print? At least this carbon artwork gets used for something, and gets out in the world for other people to see, unlike many other kinds of art that people might buy. This bike also brings joy, unless you're some kind of traumatized nincompoop- I know I'd be stoked to see it in person, just to heft it for giggles.

    'Dog: why would you want to put on the hair shirt, after mattkock left you an opening to apologize for your penny-ante bleatings? Why not redeem yourself by showing that even if you're an ass on the internerd, that you're a decent person in the flesh? That was probably rhetorical, so don't bother- it takes all kinds.

    Anyways, thanks to the OP for sharing your sleds with us. Somebody has to stump up the dosh and show what's possible on the bleeding edge. We're living in a golden era of bicycle technology, with equipment available that many of us only dreamed about a few short years ago. Carry on, and looking forward to more pics- as well as certain dingleberries making themselves scarce 'round here.

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    Why Thank You very kindly cykovski I feel the same way. Say what you want about another persons ride (I never would) but if he wants to be a gentleman and invites you riding you should probably go or at least start a self Banishment of mtbr.com for being a ******. Wait, I take that last part back, if brewdog left who would we make fun of?
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    Matt don't you love the net...

    I get your passion, and from your pictures holy crap...you ride!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    And after I posted on this site asking how can I lose some weight on my new ride...I found this thread and it has given me several ideas,,,so thank you!
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    Thanks gsxr, since I've posted this bike I've gotten PMs from Greece, Germany, Italy, Spain, New Zealand, Austrailia, El Salvador and Peru asking for help shedding weight from their bikes. They send me pics or build lists and ask for help. It's been Crazy! Thje guy in Spain actually did a story on my bike on his on-line magazine. Lightbike-magazine.es I believe. If you have any specific questions just PM me. I just recently put a friends FSR on a diet and for $347 we dropped 3 lbs going from 26.5lbs to 23.5lbs. It can be done on a budget but it's a little trickier.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattkock
    Thanks gsxr, since I've posted this bike I've gotten PMs from Greece, Germany, Italy, Spain, New Zealand, Austrailia, El Salvador and Peru asking for help shedding weight from their bikes. They send me pics or build lists and ask for help. It's been Crazy! Thje guy in Spain actually did a story on my bike on his on-line magazine. Lightbike-magazine.es I believe. If you have any specific questions just PM me. I just recently put a friends FSR on a diet and for $347 we dropped 3 lbs going from 26.5lbs to 23.5lbs. It can be done on a budget but it's a little trickier.
    You have class...you built a very cool machine...it stands out...I don't blame the world for taking notice...I'm in chicago center of the world and I keep looking at this thread to see what you'll do to it next.

    As for my bike I will PM you....get some direction
    And no Thank you!!!!!

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    Matt, share the stories, pics and other stuff that relates to your bike!!!!!!!!!!!! Thats what we want to hear and see....enough said and enough hate.......move on everyone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This is a A9C thread started by the owner of a A9C. Come on Matt tell us everything about this bike and share what other have shared with you about this niner and its awesome diet. Show us this online mag, show us the pics and share your bike with us.

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    So far it's my favorite riding bike that I've owned. I've had quite a few, XC, DH, WW, Slalom, Etc. I think since I started riding Mtn in 1992 I've had 43 bikes. This is my first Carbon bike and it really hauls. I still think that Ti is my favorite material for a rigid but the Carbon just flat out moves! I'm headed to Austin Texas tomorrow for a long day of shooting photos and maybe some video so look out for that tomorrow evening or maybe Monday. I've got some tricks up my sleeve to get this bike into the very LOW 13lb range or maybe the HIGH 12s, we shall see. I don't want to make it unrideable so High 12s maybe out of reach but stay tuned. So far everything on the bike is a stock (store bought) component but the customization is about to begin. The shop I ride for (Off Road Peddler) is a BMX only shop and the owner builds the sickest 7lb. $3400 mini BMX bikes that you have ever seen. He'll take a brand new Chris King hubset and replace the bearings with ceramic, the seals with custom, the axles with magnesium, and he gets the ring drives coated with PolyDyn so you don't need oil or grease. So your $500 hubset now costs $1000 and you still need rims, spokes and nipples. I wanted to ride this bike for at least a month before I ripped it apart and put it on a diet but I may stretch that out, I'm having WAY too much Fun on it!!!
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    I shot this today. Just a few little changes go a long way!!! I'm Happy........for now.
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    In no way is that a bike I would build, ride or own but damn.....it's nice.....real nice.
    Zip ties? Not on my bike!

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    Quote Originally Posted by brewdog
    I would have replied to the first PM if I wanted to meet up.






    your not interested in riding with him but you are interested in reading this thread....yep pussed out.

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    Thanks jeff that's more like it. Here are some more riding pics from our ride in Austin at Walnut Creek today.
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    Matt,

    What were the changes you made recently to drop nearly 1 pound?
    I see hills.

    I want to climb them.

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    I listed the changes in the WW forum and it was not nearly a pound it was 52g. From 14.02lbs to 13.86lbs. Just under 2 full ounces. God I'm a Weight Weenie!
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    I poop heavier than that bike. Gives new meaning to "s*#t in one hand and wish in the other"!!

    Good work with the build.

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    C'mon with the vids!

    I recently held that frame in my hands, and good Xenu it's light. My girlfriend and her cousin (both who know diddly squat about bike porn) were shocked at what something so big could way.

    Awesome bike dude.

    Bryan d

    PS - hater readings are slowly tapering it looks.
    Just keep pedaling, don't stop pedaling.

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    My buddy with the GoPro didn't show yesterday so no vids, just photos. I'll get some. I may take it to the local BMX track this week and shoot some vids there. Just take out the seatpost and go!
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattkock
    My buddy with the GoPro didn't show yesterday so no vids, just photos. I'll get some. I may take it to the local BMX track this week and shoot some vids there. Just take out the seatpost and go!
    That's me... couldn't make it. Let me know when you're in town and I'm definitely into shooting vid.
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    Time to stop believing the hype and start doing some science.
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    Man the weather was PERFECT!!!! 3 hours-No sweating!!!! I really, really want to hit up Mule Shoe, I heard it was a Great SS course. Let me know if you can give me a tour out there and we'll shoot some Video. I ordered some 29er Rocket Rons in 2.25" so my bike won't drift the 18 or so inches before hooking up on every single turn. Don't let anyone fool you, Weight Weenieism is a Disease and it affects your riding ability!
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    Quote Originally Posted by meltingfeather
    How do you figure? The math is pretty easy and you're waaay off. If it's hard for you, look at your own profile. They do all the fancy calculations for you.
    Bahaha. Ultimate fail. Padre: still a tool after all these years.

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