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    Light, full-suspension 29er recommendations?

    I am looking to build a light-weight, full-suspension 29er mainly for XC use (not racing). Looking for recommendations. I've been thinking about Superfly 100, Turner Sultan, Niner RIP9 or JET9. What are your thoughts?

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    Popular thread topic.
    IMO based on your list:
    1-Sultan, Turner quality, Hand built in the USA, 4.7" travel, DW link.
    2-Superfly light weight, well reviewed though I haven't ridden one.
    3-Rip9 Sweet geometry, made in Taiwan.
    4-Jet9 One word, recall.

    Also consider Pivot 429. I liked it allot better then the Rip9, the Tall boy looks interesting, and check out the Lenz Sport Leviathan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LyNx
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    Agree.
    That, the Superfly100 or the Epic would be my choices.
    Turner is more a trail bike now that it is out to 5".
    Same with the Rip.

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    I do a lot of climbing and descending on So.Cal. fire roads. Also some steep single track. No big drops or jumps. I am looking for a stable platform that climbs well and will get me over rocks and gullies when I am descending at night.

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    What about Rumblefish??

    I'am looking into the RIP 9 and the Rumblefish. After all the negative about niners service and only 2 years warranty Iam leaning towards the Rumblefish. Its hard to pass on a lifetime warranty and the Price is also hard to beat. Both good bike though.
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    From you riding terrain description, and your ground covering intention, have you completely ruled out a HT?

    Personally never thought I would say it, but hey. It's a fine line between a little suspension & a HT when your in 29er size

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    Lenz 4" models build up some of the lightest FS 29ers.
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    He said light though, so that would rule out a lot of those mentioned except the TallBoy, SF100 and lenz.

    Quote Originally Posted by GF 29er
    I'am looking into the RIP 9 and the Rumblefish. After all the negative about niners service and only 2 years warranty Iam leaning towards the Rumblefish. Its hard to pass on a lifetime warranty and the Price is also hard to beat. Both good bike though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GF 29er
    I'am looking into the RIP 9 and the Rumblefish. After all the negative about niners service and only 2 years warranty Iam leaning towards the Rumblefish. Its hard to pass on a lifetime warranty and the Price is also hard to beat. Both good bike though.
    For racing??
    Neither of these appeal to me as being race bikes.
    All mountain or trail bikes yes, race bikes no.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LyNx
    He said light though, so that would rule out a lot of those mentioned except the TallBoy, SF100 and lenz.
    I understand he said light. What is your price you want to spend. You can always buy a complete bike like a Rumblefish for example and ride. Then with the money you save you can make it light with after market parts. Thats just my own opinion..
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    There's also the Fisher Hi Fi 29er - cheaper than the SF100, and comes in 3 build levels. Tough to beat for value, and the 2010 model looks like a nice improvement over 2009.

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    price point would help in making recommendations...

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    You mention so cal... Are you by chance in OC?? Depending on how tall you are We may be able to arrange a test ride on a 4" lenz Lev. I had a rip and broke it, but Niner stepped up with a new ft triangle no questions asked. Built the lenz as I wanted something really light. never looked back...

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    He said light, which I took to mean around the <25lb mark and getting a Rumblefish down there would prob take as much $$ as going with a TB or SF100 with less WW parts and you'd end up with a stiffer frame. But of course everyone has a different idea of light and he didn't mention budget which usually means there's none Seems to be a delema a lot of people are still managing to have even in these times.

    Quote Originally Posted by GF 29er
    I understand he said light. What is your price you want to spend. You can always buy a complete bike like a Rumblefish for example and ride. Then with the money you save you can make it light with after market parts. Thats just my own opinion..
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    Titus Racer X should be in the mix as well. For a light FS racebike. I race on my RIP, but not the choice I would get if I was serious about racing. As I have only one bike, I went with what made me happy, could do all the rough stuff I wanted to do + race it for fun (I came in 10th overall for my age group for the 2009 series I race in)
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    Quote Originally Posted by bonesetter2004
    From you riding terrain description, and your ground covering intention, have you completely ruled out a HT?

    Personally never thought I would say it, but hey. It's a fine line between a little suspension & a HT when your in 29er size

    why is that?

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    racer x light frame and flex free compared to most others out there in the 29er frames. Very efficient design.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tantra
    I am looking to build a light-weight, full-suspension 29er mainly for XC use (not racing). Looking for recommendations. I've been thinking about Superfly 100, Turner Sultan, Niner RIP9 or JET9. What are your thoughts?
    you can weight weenie a jet 9 to about 24.5 and a rip to about 27................superfly very hard to get, stock ones are about 25lbs real world...........specialized 29er epic with xx around 25lbs......

    for not racing and a good all around xc 29er that will carry you through some rough stuff a rip 9 with 15mm thru axle 120mm tapered steerer fox fork you would prob love it............rip has many many very positive reviews, tallboy has mediocre reviews.......rip has an inch more rear travel than tallboy, and is about 400-500 bucks cheaper, but tallboy frame is about 2 pounds lighter..........

    its a tough call you list some very good bikes....superfly is still just single pivot suspension, the cva on niners works really well.............tallboy has vpp which is similar to niners cva.........

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    Quote Originally Posted by suvowner
    yblah blah blah blah blah........... tallboy has mediocre reviews.
    What????
    Where????
    I am yet to see a bad review.
    Only semi bad review I have seen was an early one and mentioned that the TB was more of a trail bike than a race bike. It has since come out that the test bikes were set up with 120mm forks rather than 100mm (which is how I would run one if I was racing it).
    Rip is alloy, TB is Carbon Fibre so yes it will and should be more expensive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TR
    What????
    Where????
    I am yet to see a bad review.
    Only semi bad review I have seen was an early one and mentioned that the TB was more of a trail bike than a race bike. It has since come out that the test bikes were set up with 120mm forks rather than 100mm (which is how I would run one if I was racing it).
    Rip is alloy, TB is Carbon Fibre so yes it will and should be more expensive.
    "I am looking to build a light-weight, full-suspension 29er mainly for XC use (not racing). "

    notice the area in parenthesis from the original poster............


    tallboy is enticing b/c its carbon, but also a first run carbon 29er with a 2 year warranty....rip is on 2nd generation and currently available...but tall boy has an inch less rear travel and like you said geometry prefers a 100mm fork.......an inch more travel on both ends for the rip will do a nice job of taking care of you on the night rides over rocks and gullies.....comptetitivecyclist is just down the road from my house and they can't even get any tallboys right now............i think the tallboy might have an edge over the rip for racing, but as a trail bike a tougher call......the extra travel on the rip makes for a really nice ride through tehcnical sections.............

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    No you are misreading.
    What I am trying to say is that the original testers were given a bike that was meant to be an XC race bike but it did not live up to that expectation due to the 120mm fork.
    They were happy with it as a trail bike in that configuration though.

    You and I obviously have very different ideas on what an XC bike is as there is nowhere I would ride XC that would warrant the extra travel provided by the Rip.

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    +1 on the superfly 100
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    Saw this at my LBS today. Looks sweet, unbelievably light! ~5lbs im guessing..


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    I'd definitely try to track down a Titus Racer X...To bad Titus stopped making them.
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    Only one mention of the Specialized Epic so far. I'll throw it in again. Pretty versatile with the brain. Crank it down for that locked out feeling open it up for plushness. Still handles like an XC bike either way.

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    Yeah and don't forget all the $$$$ you have to throw at them to get them there and don't bring any BS about no you don't, 'cause I really don't want to have to dig up ALL the builds that even came close to 25lbs for the JET and list all the chi chi parts. Don't also forget the redesign which will have added even more weight to the JET9 frame, so most likely the TB will be 2lbs lighter than that and too me 2lbs saved straight off the bat for $500 is quite cheap oh and the questionability of re-using the old rockers with a new stiffer frame - all that flex/stress that ain't in the triangles any more has to go somewhere

    Quote Originally Posted by suvowner
    you can weight weenie a jet 9 to about 24.5 and a rip to about 27................superfly very hard to get, stock ones are about 25lbs real world...........specialized 29er epic with xx around 25lbs......


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    If you're not racing, the Superfly is overkill IMO, unless money is no object. The Hi-Fi Pro is mostly the same bike, but over $2k less, comes with XC/trail wheels/tires instead of race wheels/tires, and an X9 build instead of XO. The Superfly will also bring a lot of attention to itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LyNx
    Yeah and don't forget all the $$$$ you have to throw at them to get them there and don't bring any BS about no you don't, 'cause I really don't want to have to dig up ALL the builds that even came close to 25lbs for the JET and list all the chi chi parts. Don't also forget the redesign which will have added even more weight to the JET9 frame, so most likely the TB will be 2lbs lighter than that and too me 2lbs saved straight off the bat for $500 is quite cheap oh and the questionability of re-using the old rockers with a new stiffer frame - all that flex/stress that ain't in the triangles any more has to go somewhere
    i don't think it is possible to get a full suspension 29er under 25 lbs for under 5 grand....no matter the frame.......cost was never the issue from the original poster, he just wanted a light non-racing full suspension 29er..........so just try and stay on point.....I have had a good experience with my 27lb full suspension rip 9 29er that is for me a great xc bike, that rides awesome through rock and gullies..for a full suspension 29er I think 27lb is in the light category.....25 and below is in weight weenie category....which I think is the kind of input the original poster was asking for.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by suvowner
    i don't think it is possible to get a full suspension 29er under 25 lbs for under 5 grand....no matter the frame.......cost was never the issue from the original poster, he just wanted a light non-racing full suspension 29er..........
    It's very, very easy to get a Leviathan (3.0 or 4.0) in under 25, and under 5k.

    I've built a handful of them this way for customers over the last few years. Very easy--you just have to pay attention.

    For a little over 5k I've gotten 3" Lev's in under 24. Weight weenie? Yes. But still using responsible, durable, trail-rideable parts, none of that AX-lightness or similar crap.

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    IMO, you can not go wrong with any high end bike these days: Ellsworth, Turner, Intense, Lenz, Niner, Spec, Fisher, etc, etc. Find a frame that fits well and a suspension design that compliments your style of riding.

    I rode about everything out there before buying my Evolve. You will notice there is not alot of love for the Evolve on here, but it worked better for me than the other offerings. I think it is a phenominal endurance bike and a great all day trail bike. BUT, if I were building a full-on XC race bike (for non-enduarnce events), it would not be my choice. I would go with a nice hardtail.

    Good luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikesee
    It's very, very easy to get a Leviathan (3.0 or 4.0) in under 25
    What is the frame weight for the Lev 3.0...?

    Do you have pictures of any of the bikes you have build and can you post them here...?

    And is pedal bob an issue if the bike is used without propedal...?

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    I guess these "lightweight FS 29er" threads always draw the crowds and I am definitely interested in opinions on this.
    I'm also very interested in specific handling characteristics. While those of you who have ridden these bikes chime in can you offer observations on "ease of wheelie"?
    Yeah, I know that sounds totally stupid, but I'm an old school BMX guy and being able to easily pick up the front wheel and "place" it where I want (power wheelies out of corners, bunny hops, last minute lifts across a creek, etc.) is pretty important as far as handling goes on my next bike (which I want pretty darn soon!).
    I'm currently on a '05 Stumpy (26), I definitely dig the handeling of this bike.
    I also live pretty far off the beaten path so demos are not readily available (been on a 08 HiFi, 429 and have been riding a GF Cobia for about a month - absolutely hate the Cobia...)
    The last version of the HiFi was ok, but not the "sweet spot" I'm hoping for. Maybe my expectations are unrealistic with the bigger wheels?
    So I'm asking you Jet, Leviathon, HiFi folks for your observations on this one along with the original weight question of course!

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    Since you're in SoCal I highly recommend you post your query at http://www.socaltrailriders.org/ if you haven't already. They're my old riding buddies and the folks on that forum are some of the nicest, coolest kats I've ever known.
    Once you get to know them I'm sure they'd let you swap bikes on a group ride and there's enough peeps that there's bound to be a handful of 29'ers rocking.

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    I've been eyeballing the Fuji Outland RC 29r. With Crossmax 29r wheels and X0/X9 build, this thing weighs in at 27.4 lbs. Good solid build but not cement truck heavy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tantra
    I am looking to build a light-weight, full-suspension 29er mainly for XC use (not racing). Looking for recommendations. I've been thinking about Superfly 100, Turner Sultan, Niner RIP9 or JET9. What are your thoughts?
    check out the Intense Spider! Mine weighs in at 25.9 lbs and is an amazing bike for XC use.
    It currently has my yeti 575 playing second fiddle and that is saying a lot!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rasse1977
    What is the frame weight for the Lev 3.0...?

    Do you have pictures of any of the bikes you have build and can you post them here...?

    And is pedal bob an issue if the bike is used without propedal...?
    My Lenz Leviathan 3.0 weighs in at 25.1 lbs and could easily drop into the 24 lb range, but it's the way I like it for now. Pedal bob is not and has never been an issue for me with a properly tuned suspension (both front and rear). I've riden and owned many, many, many other FS bikes and IMO the Lev is one of the best (it has to be I still have it and refuse to get rid of it).
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    Quote Originally Posted by rasse1977
    What is the frame weight for the Lev 3.0...?

    Do you have pictures of any of the bikes you have build and can you post them here...?

    And is pedal bob an issue if the bike is used without propedal...?
    Weight and pics of an older build HERE.

    Any/every suspension component needs to be fine tuned to/by the rider. Pretty easy to dial out pedal induced movement on the Levs without sacrificing small bump sensitivity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ECOdork
    Since you're in SoCal I highly recommend you post your query at http://www.socaltrailriders.org/ if you haven't already. They're my old riding buddies and the folks on that forum are some of the nicest, coolest kats I've ever known.
    Once you get to know them I'm sure they'd let you swap bikes on a group ride and there's enough peeps that there's bound to be a handful of 29'ers rocking.
    I WISH I was in SoCal! I'm in Beaufort, NC. I'm fine w/driving a ways for a demo (the Pivot demo was 3 hrs away), there are just very few shops with demos.
    I'd like to try the new HiFi (still waiting for folks to post real-world weights on these) and Jet.
    The only Lenz I've ever seen was a Behemoth so catching a trial on a Lev or MM is a distant wish.
    Anyone in eastern NC w/a medium Leviathon or an unbroken Jet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jocnc1
    Anyone in eastern NC w/a medium an unbroken Jet?
    An unbroken Jet? Que the sound of crickets....

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    Beaufort!?!?! Man, I feel your pain! I'm in Durham/Raleigh so we have decent riding compared to you guys but I go out your way for work and am kinda familiar with it.

    Where's the riding out there?

    So you probably hit Franks Cyclery for that Pivot demo? He's got a great shop and built my VooDoo Dambala for me. Did a great job with it. I think the Bicycle Chain chain around here carries Fishers. Otherwise, finding a variety of bikes to demo is probably hard out there...but there probably will be demos coming up in our area before too long. Or haul your arse out west...



    Quote Originally Posted by jocnc1
    I WISH I was in SoCal! I'm in Beaufort, NC. I'm fine w/driving a ways for a demo (the Pivot demo was 3 hrs away), there are just very few shops with demos.
    I'd like to try the new HiFi (still waiting for folks to post real-world weights on these) and Jet.
    The only Lenz I've ever seen was a Behemoth so catching a trial on a Lev or MM is a distant wish.
    Anyone in eastern NC w/a medium Leviathon or an unbroken Jet?

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    jocnc1- If you haven't tried any HT 29ers I would definitely try some of those. With some short stays, tubeless tires, and 4-5 in travel fork you could have a relatively lightweight bike that has a front end that's easy to throw around and takes some of the harshness out in the rough stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bt
    why is that?
    I never thought I would say consider a HT in a recommended me a short travel FS 29er thread, buy I did and here's why...

    Since becoming the owner of a very well sorted, long travel HT (yes, with super short CS's), I find, put succinctly, it is the more all round enjoyable bike. My other bike being a 5" FS (and quite alot of fun too I have to add)

    YMMV, as will everyone else's I'm sure, but that's my 2C - at the moment anyway

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackMoth
    jocnc1- If you haven't tried any HT 29ers I would definitely try some of those. With some short stays, tubeless tires, and 4-5 in travel fork you could have a relatively lightweight bike that has a front end that's easy to throw around and takes some of the harshness out in the rough stuff.
    I've been on a GF Cobia for about a month - my body has exceeded the age limitation of a hardtail on our root filled trails... The Cobia has 17.3" stays, but I still have had some serious "oh s___" moments hopping logs. I'm not new to riding (30+ years of dirt, 20ish of MTB) and accept that there will be a learning curve, just looking for insightful observations/comparisons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ECOdork
    Beaufort!?!?! Man, I feel your pain! I'm in Durham/Raleigh so we have decent riding compared to you guys but I go out your way for work and am kinda familiar with it.

    Where's the riding out there?

    So you probably hit Franks Cyclery for that Pivot demo? He's got a great shop and built my VooDoo Dambala for me. Did a great job with it. I think the Bicycle Chain chain around here carries Fishers. Otherwise, finding a variety of bikes to demo is probably hard out there...but there probably will be demos coming up in our area before too long. Or haul your arse out west...
    It was the demo that Frank put on. My wife and I really enjoy the trails up there, especially New Light!
    The riding here is all on the bases - Cherry Point in Havelock and Lejeune in Jacksonville. The Cherry Point Trail (Pirhana Pit) is the better of the two. Blue Clay in Wilmington was fun, but they're in a lawsuit firestorm from a dork that crashed and now wants to blame someone else for his lack of ability. the Bike Post trail in Greenville is another fun one - racing there on Sunday, supposed to be a swamp after all this rain & last weeks snow, should be fun!

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    Thanks for the info! Yeah, I like New Light
    If I find occasion to be out that way on non-bizniz, I'll bring my bike!
    Good luck riding this sunday! too bad B's BBQ isn't open for post-ride grub...

    Quote Originally Posted by jocnc1
    It was the demo that Frank put on. My wife and I really enjoy the trails up there, especially New Light!
    The riding here is all on the bases - Cherry Point in Havelock and Lejeune in Jacksonville. The Cherry Point Trail (Pirhana Pit) is the better of the two. Blue Clay in Wilmington was fun, but they're in a lawsuit firestorm from a dork that crashed and now wants to blame someone else for his lack of ability. the Bike Post trail in Greenville is another fun one - racing there on Sunday, supposed to be a swamp after all this rain & last weeks snow, should be fun!

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    Yeah, demo's are pretty hard to come by around here.

    Frank's had Pivot and Moots, and The Bicycle Chain had specialized last year.

    The key is to find someone who's willing to let you test their ride ...

    For instance ... next time you're around RDU and want to try a Medium TNT Sultan, let me know.


    Quote Originally Posted by jocnc1
    I WISH I was in SoCal! I'm in Beaufort, NC. I'm fine w/driving a ways for a demo (the Pivot demo was 3 hrs away), there are just very few shops with demos.
    I'd like to try the new HiFi (still waiting for folks to post real-world weights on these) and Jet.
    The only Lenz I've ever seen was a Behemoth so catching a trial on a Lev or MM is a distant wish.
    Anyone in eastern NC w/a medium Leviathon or an unbroken Jet?

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    [QUOTE=jocnc1]
    I'm also very interested in specific handling characteristics. While those of you who have ridden these bikes chime in can you offer observations on "ease of wheelie"?
    Yeah, I know that sounds totally stupid, but I'm an old school BMX guy and being able to easily pick up the front wheel and "place" it where I want (power wheelies out of corners, bunny hops, last minute lifts across a creek, etc.) is pretty important as far as handling goes on my next bike (which I want pretty darn soon!).
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    I have a similar riding style and had some issues getting the feel of the balance point of the bike when I went to 29er, and my timing for bunnyhops was just off (guess it was the longer wheelbase). On my last ride I finally started "getting it" and man was it a great feeling.

    My 26" bike is a Heckler, and I woud say I could so about anything on the Evolve I could do on the Heckler (in the general sence of being comfortable enough w/ the bikes handling to make it happen). I don't (because the bike is just not built for that), but IMO it is a testament to it's handling that I feel like I could.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jocnc1
    I'm currently on a '05 Stumpy (26), I definitely dig the handeling of this bike.
    My last bike (well I still have it is as backup) was also an 05 Stumpjumper, a 120 pro.

    That thing is a great all around bike, performs well everywhere.

    I just got my first 29er - a Superfly 100. I had been thinking of getting a hardtail 29er for a long time, but the Superfly 100 is so light and the things climbs so well - I love it.

    Compared to the Stumpy it is really light, rolls over everything, climbs without any suspension bob at all. About the only thing the Stumpy does better is hammer through really nasty downhill sections. Of course some of that is the extra travel front and rear - and some of it is me slightly babying it still.

    I am really impressed at how well it handles fast, rough downhill singletrack for how great of a climber it is.

    Just my overpriced 2 cents.

    Kirk

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    I have ridden just about every design out there, but IMHO still cant find a better ride then my Evolve, just built a 2010 up, weighed in at 26lbs with TIME pedals, here is a link to a pic of it.

    http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?t=586306

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    hi tantra,

    I think it depends on your budget, riding style, and terrain. If you're not racing, then Fisher Superfly and Santa Cruz TallBoy might be too far toward the superlight end of the spectrum for what you're after. Turner handles great, superb build quality, suspension is quite good but not dialed in for bigger bumps. If you can afford a Pivot 429, then it's another great option. Niner RIP9 is heavier, seems more "all-mountain"-oriented. Never ridden a Jet9. Ventana makes some other good choices, though i'm not sure the suspension is as nice as a Tallboy or a 429. There's really not a bad choice in the list, but you really need to test ride to make final determination. Note that you can slacken (slow) the handling in any of the bikes by putting another 10-20mm longer fork on it.

    Good luck and happy riding!

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    I second the opinion on the ellsworth. I know there are some negative opinions on the company, but I have been very pleased with the frame. I have the Fox Float R and don't have any pedal bob issues (I am 145lbs and ride a medium). I got down to 25.05 lbs by dumping a bit of cash, but I am quite happy with the bike.

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