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    Learning to Fly

    Today was my first real ride on the Jones. Wednesday's ride was more of a slow first dance. But, today...it was obvious that Miss Jones wanted to get down and shake it!


    Mannn, this girl wants to fly!


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    Downright incredible.
    The bike.
    Your riding.

    Your "investment" is already paying dividends.

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    Nice! I think that's what we were all expecting to see... so is noble 100% rideable on the SS now?

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    Sweeeet!!!!
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    Nice! More, more!

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    In-frickin-credible pics, especially the last one.
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    Great photos, great riding. More please!

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    But...

    you ride noble all the time. you should be up here in Utah with us this weekend!










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    Thats what I'm talking about!
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    Here's a couple more

    Those orange Niners are sweet!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aquaholic
    Those orange Niners are sweet!
    DAMN! Sweet riding Aqua!

    Looks to me like the dude on that Niner is thinking the Aquajones is pretty sweet! LOL!

    Cheers!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aquaholic
    Those orange Niners are sweet!
    So is your "art."

    I have another request - we all love the pictures, would you be able to take some video of yourself riding that machine? For those of us who can't watch you riding it in person? Pics are awesome, and just leave me wanting to see more.

    As they say here in Japan "Onegaishimasu!"

    Chris

    Edit: Of course I mean would you be able to have someone take video of you riding. Bit hard to video yourself!
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    Ride.

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    More pics please, and video too.
    How are those Salsa rims holding up so far?
    Enjoy the ride.

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    Nice art

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    That's like asking

    Quote Originally Posted by burner
    Nice! I think that's what we were all expecting to see... so is noble 100% rideable on the SS now?
    That's like asking Jordan if he can dunk on a court he's never played on.

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    But where is the Cape? With that red get up it would only seem appropriate!

    Great pics and nice looking ride none the less!!
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    You never get better until you get out of your comfort zone.

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    Sjt 1/15

    Here's some snaps of San Juan Trail today. Killer conditions from yesterday's rain!
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    Mas

    And a few more.....
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    Hot Damn Aqua!!!!
    So glad to see that your bike is an extension of your very being.
    And you're not afraid to pin the throttle and ride that thing the way it was meant to be loved.
    Enjoy every minute... and thanks for the inspiration.

    OGG
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    as usual, awesome friggin pictures!!

    it will be very interesting for you to report on riding those same trails again with the Turner after having ridden them with the Aquajones. i'll bet it just feel "different" the next go around.

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    Aqua care to share your thoughts oh how the big wheels fly compared to the 26ers? Obviously the FS is going to make a huge difference but what about stability in the air for those high speed hits where you get a few feet high but a long length? I find the 29er to be more stable at lift off, in the air and on landing.

    Would you like to have a 6" tavel 29er? I would.

    Keep those pics comming!
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    Your smile in the last pict, says it all.

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    Do you actually see any vertical deflection in the fork when you're riding? I'm assuming that you probably got some video, and just wondering if you see any deflection in the rear end? (of the bike).
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    Aqua:

    Question...Do you find the bigger wheels make rolling over those boulders easier compared to the 5-pack? In other words, does the pucker factor go down a bit.

    I'm also curious to note if you needed to change anything in the overall cockpit set up, or did Jeff nail it right out of the box?

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    Above the planet on a wing and a prayer,
    My grubby halo, a vapour trail in the empty air,


    Across the clouds I see my shadow fly
    Out of the corner of my watering eye


    A dream unthreatened by the morning light
    Could blow this soul right through the roof of the night


    There's no sensation to compare with this
    Suspended animation, A state of bliss


    Can't keep my eyes from the circling skies
    Tongue-tied and twisted just an earth-bound misfit, I

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    looks like you are SS

    For some reason, that makes me happy (the 3/4 speed was cool, but I guess I preferr SS).

    Do tell on the adjustments....did you have to make many?

    Thanks so much, for the great pictures.

    How does it feel to have the most famous JJ bike? I mean any jones creation is pretty neat, unique, legendary, (gasp) artistic....but yours (because of this and other threads) has got to be the most widely known (for now at least). I know that you probably never plan on breaking up with her...but how are you going to feel in 30 years when you are unable to fly like that, and young punks are still comming up to her wanting autographs?

    Seriously, Thanks for the trip. I knew what a Jones was, but never really appreciated them before the first thread. I still dont know you, but it looks like you can dish out what that bike was built for. Keep it up.

    Ken

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    Nice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aquaholic
    And a few more.....
    The only thing that I can see that is excessive is the grin on your face.
    "Whereas Motoman's bike looks like an industrial, TinkerToy experiment gone horribly wrong." - Aquaholic

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    Cool shots.
    Really need to see some picks of those landings.

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    niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!

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    Puzzled

    The Niner rider is thinking "Where the heck does Aquaholic put his water bottles?"

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    So how ya hangin' with the H bars? I seem to remember you saying that you'd give 'em a try, but that you'll probably stick some risers on there eventually. From the looks of it, you've adjusted to them just fine! Are you going to keep them on there?
    Just a regular guy.

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    Very nice aqua! Sweet bikes, awesome shots.

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    Sweet! Watching the build was fun and all, but seeing it in action is way better!

    YO MAMA

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    Thanks, Ya'll for the nice comments. But, can't we really get back to discussing whether this bike is artwork or not?

    With this bike setup as a SS, there are some climbs that I haven't yet been able to nail. But, I've only got 3 rides in. I'd really like to keep the gears off of this bike if I can hold out. I think that it mucks the bike up with all of that stuff on it. Still, I'm confident I can make those climbs with the 3 speed bolted up.

    The peeps that were watching me huck off of that boulder on saturday, said that they could see the rear end compliancy at work as I landed. I dunno, I'll see if I can get some video of it. The rear end definetly does move when you put your weight into the rear end.

    The fork is amazing. I mean, it's still a rigid front end, I can't pin it in the chunky, fast sections like on my squisher. But, if I ride it like a jet ski... the front end stays just light enough to keep me from getting pounded.

    The rims seem to be pretty stout for a XC rim. That boulder that I jumped yesterday at SJT....if you look closely you can see an embedded rock on the landing. I did this jump twice and on the second one, I didn't commit with enough speed. I didn't clear that boulder with my front wheel. I came in nose heavy. There was a loud explosion as the tube popped. Not a pinch flat...the tube exploded! I rode it out for about 20 feet on the front rim. Upon inspection it looked fine. Still true and no dings!

    Ozlo: So far, I can't tell much difference between flying this bike or my 5Pack. Other than, being a full rigid bike, I obviously have to be very careful how and where I am going to land. There's a lot bigger margin for error with a squish bike.

    Enel/Unit: JJ nailed this thing the first time. He had little pieces of tape all over the bike with notes, arrows, and instructions. For example: where to route the hydro lines and arrows lining up the brake lever placement, etc. The only readjustment that I have made to the bike was to dial in a bit more bite on the lever engagement.

    I am going to raise the bottom bracket(1/2"), to it's highest setting for a bit more pedal clearance. I am getting a few pedeal strikes, but some of that is inevitable. With my Turner, I sometimes just bash into stuff with little finesse or regard to the cranks.

    This bike has no bash ring and the cranks are far to pretty for that kind of abuse.


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    Art? Who's Art???

    - Sick ridin' & pic's Aqua, very sick! That's it! "Art" took the pic's!!!

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    You again?

    Quote Originally Posted by colker1
    guess i touched a nerve.. thanks for the attention guys. now go play w/ your threads and forget about me. btw.. i'm proud to be hated by your bunch. art is much bigger than your silly bikes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by colker1
    art is much bigger than your silly bikes.
    Isn't there a famous qoute that says "art is in the eye of the beholder"?
    Most of us think JJ's bikes are art.
    You don't. Now lets just let it go please!?!

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    Isn't there a famous qoute that says "art is in the eye of the beholder"?
    Actually I think that goes "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder." Not that I'm disagreeing with you though. I think you've got it right in a sense. I've seen what some people consider art (at least enough to hang on their walls) and I, for one, much prefer JJ's sculpture to that stuff.

    For me, bicycles are sculpture in motion.

    Loved the Pink Floyd by the way! Great work Tappoix!

    Cheers!
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    Back on topic

    I love the pictures...but
    while Floyd is nice, I think the number by Pantera might me better "The Art of Shredding"

    "Art"...that is sooo last thread...lets get back to pics and videos before the cops come and shut down the party.

    Ken

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    this thread is pure joy. aqua is one of the coolest folks ive met on here since i started really hangin out last fall. his pics, storys and insight are as top notch as his character. then theres this bike and how its envelope has been burst clean open. top it off with taps creative mix of pics and lyrics. very cool pal. im glad i was directed here from my usual squishy bike forum.
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    Cati,

    I am sorry you see it this way. On the 29er forum, we all know FoShizzle does bigger drops and catches more air and pimps more chicks than Aqua! If you hang here, you will come around.

    All kidding aside (sorry Shizzle, I still want to cruz up to your hood and ride too), I live in the same town as Aqua and can't believe I haven't gone on one of his "Tour de Nobel" adventures yet. He is definetaly the Shiznit. It would be cool to have him show me the right lines to ride at Nobel.

    Quote Originally Posted by cactuscorn
    this thread is pure joy. aqua is one of the coolest folks ive met on here since i started really hangin out last fall. his pics, storys and insight are as top notch as his character. then theres this bike and how its envelope has been burst clean open. top it off with taps creative mix of pics and lyrics. very cool pal. im glad i was directed here from my usual squishy bike forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigdrunk
    Cati,

    I am sorry you see it this way. On the 29er forum, we all know FoShizzle does bigger drops and catches more air and pimps more chicks than Aqua! If you hang here, you will come around.

    All kidding aside (sorry Shizzle, I still want to cruz up to your hood and ride too), I live in the same town as Aqua and can't believe I haven't gone on one of his "Tour de Nobel" adventures yet. He is definetaly the Shiznit. It would be cool to have him show me the right lines to ride at Nobel.
    agreed.....I almost got a famous "Aqua pass" for Noble this weekend but my cold worsened and I have to do a girly local ride instead Noble definitely intimidates me but I too would go just to see Aqua show me how it is done.

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    You are lucky, you have a cold, I don't have any front wheels. I aint riding this weekend.

    When you end up coming down to ride Nobel, clue me in. I will show you the wrong lines to pick when riding the techy areas, I found them all a couple weeks ago the hard way.

    Quote Originally Posted by FoShizzle
    agreed.....I almost got a famous "Aqua pass" for Noble this weekend but my cold worsened and I have to do a girly local ride instead Noble definitely intimidates me but I too would go just to see Aqua show me how it is done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigdrunk
    You are lucky, you have a cold, I don't have any front wheels. I aint riding this weekend.

    When you end up coming down to ride Nobel, clue me in. I will show you the wrong lines to pick when riding the techy areas, I found them all a couple weeks ago the hard way.
    you bet! though I doubt I will need anybody's help to pick the wrong lines.....i am highly skilled in that regard.

    cheers

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    i have no doubt that faux taps dat stuff like a rock star. consider the fact hes so bad ass he no longer needs a avitar. alas im just a visitor here and my wheels are a small as my manhood so what do i know?
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    Shut it!

    [QUOTE= aqua is one of the coolest folks ive met.[/QUOTE]


    Damn You Cactus Coot!


    Don't come around here talking like that, man. I don't want these peeps getting the wrong impression.



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    ya mean this isnt MAMBLA????? dammit!
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    A few pics from today

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aquaholic
    ............
    How does that bike feel on the nose ? Do you ever ride on your front wheel when you turn a sharp corner. Im not talking about doing just a pivot i mean riding it through on the front wheel.
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    Nose Picking

    Quote Originally Posted by b12yan88
    Do you ever ride on your front wheel when you turn a sharp corner.

    Yes, but not really intentionally. When I rode with JJ up on Mt. Ashland he was ripping through corners at high speed, lofting the rear wheel and then arcing through the turn on the front wheel. I was in hot pusuit and was able to watch the antics. I still replay that video in my mind's DVD player!

    I've only got 5 rides in on her now, and we're still getting aquainted. But, the bike feels so much more stable on it's nose than my squish bike, mainly because there is no brake dive or fork compression.......the front end is always predictable.
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    A couple more from saturday

    These two pics are from last saturday at Noble Canyon. The first is the hairpin leading into "The Stairway to Hell".

    The second shot is on the "Buttcrack".
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    NVmm i found thhe geometry info
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    Noble Canyon 1.28

    Spectacular conditions up on the mountain today. SSChris and me did the full tour de Noble. 35 miles. 5,000 feet of climbing. 6.5 hours. We ran into Jimena Florit up top. She's training for her return to Womens Pro XC racing. (Yeah, I'm a name dropper).

    Jimena: "This thing's weird, but I like it!"

    Good times!
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    holy lord!! love the pics Aqua. I like your riding style, one day I hope to be able to fly like you. This is as close as I can come right now on our NC trails hahahaaha. You got it goin' on brotha! keep the pics coming.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aquaholic
    Spectacular conditions up on the mountain today. SSChris and me did the full tour de Noble. 35 miles. 5,000 feet of climbing. 6.5 hours. We ran into Jimena Florit up top. She's training for her return to Womens Pro XC racing. (Yeah, I'm a name dropper).

    Jimena: "This thing's weird, but I like it!"

    Good times!
    Whoo wheee, more great action pics! Is there some kind of ramp-up or kicker on the other side of that log crossing, or is straight-up log-over?

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    Aqua...

    i can't believe that allison and i did loops around BLT for most of the morning and didn't see you up there. what time were you up by the lake? i want to do another Noble ride with you some time soon but am still waiting for parts to fix my bike. at this rate i may have my 29er before i get my Enduro back!

    nice pics btw.

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    I didn't want to be too ncj01 about this, but your custom bike fits that tiny lady just fine, tall boy! ;-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cloxxki
    I didn't want to be too ncj01 about this, but your custom bike fits that tiny lady just fine, tall boy! ;-)
    I was thinking the exact same thing but didn't wanna be the first one to mention it!

    However, it probably suits your awesome riding style and mad-mad skillz!

    Rock-on!

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    I see you have the gears back on it

    do you shift them much? With only a few gears to choose from, I figure most people would not shift much (like on a conventional geared bike). I am guessing that I would shift into the granny gear on one the hardest section of the few trails we have around here, and maybe get into a tall gear for one or two downhill sections.

    Or do you just carry the extra gears as a cruch incase you need 'em?

    Just curious.

    Thanks for the cool shots. You inspire me to get out from behind this computer and go practice log hops and nose wheelies in my muddy back yard.

    Nice bike....think you will ever go slumming on a bike like mine? While we are on that topic...think you will ever buy another bike? gonna be tough to top that machine.

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    why would he need to buy another one?

    Aqua has unlimited numbers of Turner full squish frames to break (which he does quite handily) and then the Jones for when he wants to ride the "kind of rigid" bike. LOL

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    need?

    Quote Originally Posted by mechmann_mtb
    why would he need to buy another one?

    who said anything about "need".

    Seriously, its sort of a poke. I mean, who could imagine anyone really contemplating such a thing....replacing a bike like that.

    I am guessing that the next vehicle JJ builds for Aqua will be a wheel chair (for when you are old and wearing diapers).

    Have fun on that machine!

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    Air & Water

    San Juan trail, today.

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    How about you get some vids up for us to see you in action.
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    Quote Originally Posted by unit
    do you shift them much? With only a few gears to choose from, I figure most people would not shift much (like on a conventional geared bike). I am guessing that I would shift into the granny gear on one the hardest section of the few trails we have around here, and maybe get into a tall gear for one or two downhill sections.

    Or do you just carry the extra gears as a cruch incase you need 'em?

    Just curious.

    Thanks for the cool shots. You inspire me to get out from behind this computer and go practice log hops and nose wheelies in my muddy back yard.

    Nice bike....think you will ever go slumming on a bike like mine? While we are on that topic...think you will ever buy another bike? gonna be tough to top that machine.

    Ken

    Think of this setup as a 3 position SS. It's not a gearbox that you can row...so to speak. I just find a gear that I like and pretty much leave it for extended periods. I did two rides with the 3 speed this last weekend and it works quite well, despite the big jumps. I found that I still left it in the 20T quite often. However, it was nice being able to snick it down to the 28 and sit and spin when I felt like it. Having the 12T was also nice to get up to a velocity that I was comfortable without doing the 'Hamster on a wheel" thing.

    Downsides? I think that all that gear and associated crap mucks up the look of the bike. And I didn't like the sound of chainslap and the added drivetrain sounds. Or the extra pound that it added to my steed.

    I did raise the BB up to it's highest setting and I found that I was getting far less pedal and crank strikes.

    For the next couple of rides I am going to leave the gears on.

    My next bike? Hmmmmmmm.... I haven't really given it much thought. 29" Turner?

    Nat: That log jump has a tranny leading into it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aquaholic
    That log jump has a tranny leading into it.
    Very impressive.

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    I've been following your amazing saga. Your bike is very beautiful and your flight execution with it is very nice and impressive indeed.
    Thanks for sharing.

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    More 3 speed info please!

    Do you have any close-up pictures and details of the 3 speed cassette? I Just started running a similar setup. I am using cogs from an 8 speed cassette, 28-21-16, a short cage XTR der., and an old thumbshifter. It works pretty well, especially during the winter out East here where I am not riding enough! As you said, it is kind of like 3 SS gears. I generally stay in the 21; long climb coming up, shift to the 28; long downhill, shift to the 16. Oh yeah, like everyone else says: Awesome bike!

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    Do you have any close-up pictures and details of the 3 speed cassette?

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    Sure you wouldn't want the two tallest gears a bit closer together, maybe a 14t on there rather than the 12? I like 3-spd like setups, but to got from spinning my brains out to zero-rpm pushing from a single shift, that's not for me! :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aquaholic
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    I am interested in why you ended up with 3 cogs on the rear and not 4 cogs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aquaholic
    And a few more.....
    Someone may have already said it....but, DAMN! DAMN HOT BIKE, DAMN HOT PICS, DAMN HOT SKILLS!

    I dig the Aquaholic threads....

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    Quote Originally Posted by bikertim
    Someone may have already said it....but, DAMN! DAMN HOT BIKE, DAMN HOT PICS, DAMN HOT SKILLS!

    I dig the Aquaholic threads....
    only a few hundred times, Tim.
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    wheelset? top tube length?

    Aquaman...excellent skills...excellent bike...thanks for the pictures too.

    Curious what type of rims, spokes, and hubs are you using that can stand up to that type of riding?

    Also, looks like the top tube is fairly short, which I like...is this in fact true? Is the top tube on the short side? Also, what other geometry specs did you give Jones to make the bike fit your riding style?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mforness3000
    Aquaman...excellent skills...excellent bike...thanks for the pictures too.

    Curious what type of rims, spokes, and hubs are you using that can stand up to that type of riding?

    Also, looks like the top tube is fairly short, which I like...is this in fact true? Is the top tube on the short side? Also, what other geometry specs did you give Jones to make the bike fit your riding style?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DIRTJUNKIE,
    Well the question is inevitable,have you layed a finger on the Turner since the birth of the Jones?
    Yo Jaybird:


    Ohh yeah...the 5Pack still gets some love.

    Here's some pics from this afternoon.


    Sorry for the sh*tty quality...my camera sucks.
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    that is a beautiful boa. i have yet to see one on my adventures. i know they are around though.

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    [QUOTE=Aquaholic]Yo Jaybird:
    Oh yeah you definately are "Tragically Hip"! So ya pulled off the old double, w/frys and a shake no dought. Or a veggy burger.

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    A few from today

    Here's a few pics from today's ride. Same pics you've already seen, just with a much better camera and photographer. The weather was a joke. Almost toasty at times.

    WindStun
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    Hope you all had a good ride today!


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    I had the pleasure of seeing the Aqua-Jones and riding with Aquaholic and Rodman today.

    Nothing like a brutal climb up Indian Creek. (I can't feel my legs anymore.)

    Aquaholic on our initial climb up Extra Credit:


    Aqua on the Extra Credit Gap:






    Another pass:






    Rodman tries to get the shot from underneath:


    A couple more angles:




    Much later on in the ride the Aqua-Jones had a sympathy flat right after Rodman did:


    Don't you hate it when the tire pops off the bead after you almost have the flat fixed?


    Sometimes, "fun bolts ain't that fun."


    Let's finish this post off with Aqua on the switchback to The Stairway to Hell:
















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    Switchbacks Suck on 29ers!

    Or, so they say.

    Pics from today's ride on Los Pinos. Insane trail! More pics later.
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    did you climb SJT and then descend Los Pinos??

    i wanna do that ride!

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    Quote Originally Posted by F5000sl
    Oh yeah, what rims are those. I think I am sold on durability!

    Those are the new Salsa Delgado 29 rims. I've been beating on these rims for a month now. They are holding up well to my abuse. The wheels are still quite true.
    Thank You again Salsa Jason for hooking me up!


    Justin, yes...we first ascended SJT, up to BlueJay, and then up the Main Divide to Los Pinos.
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    I think your jones is cool, but the fact that it came with a posse of papparazzi is even more amazing...
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    Today's catch

    Here's a few from today's round. What a spectacular day up on the mountain..it had to be in the mid 70's. We really could use a bit of rain, though.

    I was finally able to clean the Waterfall Climb up on Indian Creek. Gearing was 32/28.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Aquaholic
    Here's a few from today's round. What a spectacular day up on the mountain..it had to be in the mid 70's. We really could use a but of rain, though.

    I was finally able to clean the Waterfall Climb up on Indian Creek. Gearing was 32/28.


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    Great riding and great pics! But isn't the Bullit sposed to be jumping the rigid bike???

    How's the unprotected chainring going? Any contact? I'm remembering the look of the bashguard on your Turner....
    Ride.

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    Aqua, how do you find the hand position of the H compared to the traditional bar on the Turner for jumping?
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    Also, has the H-bar slipped downward at all (because of the shim and wider diameter of the clamp of the X4 stem)?
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    Ivan:

    With each ride, I am getting more and more dialed in with the H Bar and all of the hand positions it affords me. However, I really don't use the flat portion or the Bull horns all that much.

    For flying, the bars feel great. I don't know that it's so much the Hbar..the whole bike just really feels comfortable in the air.


    Drevil, I swapped out the X4 stem for an old style elite(Thanks JFKBike!). I raised the BB height to it's maximum position and in doing so it effectively lowered the bar. I then had too much weight placed on my hands and wrists.

    I remedied it by going to a 15X120 stem and it put my hands back where they needed to be. I'm getting far less pedal and crank strikes now.

    BTW, The X4 stem with the shims was creaking on me. And noise indicates that it was moving. The old style stem is way more silent.
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    looking at the pics, i was wondering, is it the rider or the bike? or both?

    i think both should be the correct answer. hahahahahaha
    what say you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jewell of D(enial)
    Sweet. What kinda bike is that, anyway?

    Hey, who let you in here??????
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    Neat. My bike has a shock. I'll let you ride it sometime and you can take it over some sweet jumps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aquaholic
    ...BTW, The X4 stem with the shims was creaking on me. And noise indicates that it was moving. The old style stem is way more silent.
    I was considering getting an X4 for another bike I am setting up with Jones bars, but I'm glad you mentioned the noise. I've never tried the one, but when using my Thomson Elite, it creaked a lot and slipped occasionally, which drove me batty.

    Soon after getting my Chester, I was able to pick up a Moots Ti-beam (luckily, at a substantial discount) and it has never slipped or creaked, despite my reservations that it only has two bolts on the faceplate. I love it and may get another one for the other bike to save my sanity, unless someone knows of a lower cost alternative that is absolutely silent and slip-free like the Moots (when using H-bars).
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    Ti Hardware

    I'm not so sure I would trust that two bolt clamping system. I am a fatass.

    I have completed the Ti hardware replacement on the bike with these rotor bolts. You can see one of the OEM bolts at 6 o'clock.

    I probably saved another gazillionth of a gram!!!!
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    Bash Me!

    170 XT with Bashring.

    Bring on the chunk. I am now ready to ride over Fo Stool Sample's head!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aquaholic
    170 XT with Bashring.

    Bring on the chunk. I am now ready to ride over Fo Stool Sample's head!
    So you polished off the XT logo off of the crank arm? It gives it a very clean look. I like it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DIRTJUNKIE,
    So you polished off the XT logo off of the crank arm? It gives it a very clean look. I like it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mechmann_mtb
    Aquaholic is really big on polishing his crank.
    Shut it, J.
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    man, you've got a picture for every occasion!

    did you manage to mess up your Ti chainring causing you to go with the XT cranks on the Jones? i didn't think that XTR setup would last long with the way you ride, considering that it didn't have a bashring on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mechmann_mtb
    man, you've got a picture for every occasion!

    did you manage to mess up your Ti chainring causing you to go with the XT cranks on the Jones? i didn't think that XTR setup would last long with the way you ride, considering that it didn't have a bashring on it.
    That's right sucka...I have lots of ammo!

    No, I haven't trashed the XTR yet. It has taken some hits and me being so anal..I immediately sand them out. But, there are some stunts I want to try with the Jones and I just don't feel like jeopardizing the sweet pimpy, XTR/Boone setup.

    So, for those chunky rides...I'll simply swap out the XTR for this setup.
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    good deal. i am anxiously awaiting the arrival of my 29er frame. ordered one from the Niner folks. we need to go ride ATT some time soon. i wanna see you do the waterfall stunt on the jones, that is of coarse if you aren't busy buffing your crank.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mechmann_mtb
    good deal. i am anxiously awaiting the arrival of my 29er frame. ordered one from the Niner folks. we need to go ride ATT some time soon. i wanna see you do the waterfall stunt on the jones, that is of coarse if you aren't busy buffing your crank.
    "That of course if you aren't busy buffing your crank" Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha.

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    President's Day Ride

    This afternoon, HucklerMark and I got a little President's Day ride in. Cuyamaca mountain to the east received a nice dusting of fresh snow over the weekend. It was one of those magical days up on the mountain!
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    Houston....We have a problem

    So...I was warming up to hit the big double on this jump we call the diving board. The first take went OK. But, Huckler said I needed to turn up the volume. I took another stab at it, this time with a bit more throttle. I landed in a rut on the runout and the tire blew off the rim. Hurry up with those beefier tires!!!!!

    I took this as an omen that hitting the double was not in the cards, for today.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Aquaholic
    170 XT with Bashring.

    Bring on the chunk. I am now ready to ride over Fo Stool Sample's head!

    How heavy was the E13 guard? I am thinking of going one ring on my XTR crankset and using that guard.
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    that bike suits you well....looks 'sorted'

    how do you/others find the h bars for drops and jumps? id worry a bit about rotation, but the thumbs being hooked i guess feels secure. having ridden along side jeff i know he doesnt hold back! so i guess im not suggesting there is going to be a problem, but does it feel 'secure' quickly when you have been used to straight bars?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aquaholic
    So...I was warming up to hit the big double on this jump we call the diving board. The first take went OK. But, Huckler said I needed to turn up the volume. I took another stab at it, this time with a bit more throttle. I landed in a rut on the runout and the tire blew off the rim. Hurry up with those beefier tires!!!!!

    I took this as an omen that hitting the double was not in the cards, for today.


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    how'd you get up there?

    and what's your line off that rock?
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    Good job!

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    Killer shots Steve! Magazine material IMO.

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    The E13 with all of the hardware is probably heavier than the aluminum Salsa bash ring I use on my squish bike. But after this one ride, it has taken some serious hits already. This ride would have eaten my naked Boone/XTR setup alive.

    I don't believe you can get an E13 Bashring for an XTR.

    The H bar delivers! After riding this bar for a few weeks now, my conventional riser bar feels odd and somewhat uncomfortable. It takes me awhile to adapt and get comfortable when I get back on the riser. It takes me only a few minutes in the saddle, to get comfy when I get back on the Jones.

    The bar feels good all around. I like where it places my body when I air the bike out.

    I may have had the pressures a little on the low side for this particular playground. I'm still experimenting to see what I can get away with. I wonder if the steel ply version of the EXI would offer that much more sidewall strength. I'm not overly impressed with these EXI's. They're adequate, but the sidewalls are way too thin for the rocks I ride in. How much stronger is the steel version?

    Hurry up tire makers...let's have a burly tire already!

    That one shot was posed. There is no line off of that boulder without ending up in the ER.

    I hope ya'll aren't sick of seeing pics of my new steed in action.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aquaholic

    Hurry up tire makers...let's have a burly tire already!

    That one shot was posed. There is no line off of that boulder without ending up in the ER.

    I hope ya'll aren't sick of seeing pics of my new steed in action.
    I think the steel bead version would hold the rim better for sure. The sidewalls are the same though.

    I'm pretty sure no one is sick of your pics. Many guys are likely checking this board to keep them sane througout the day. You have so much fun on your bike...keep it up!

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    i like to see ya climing at Noble. most people shuttle i know that i did! glad to see most recent round of fires didt get Noble again. keep the pics commin brings back way good memories!

    Chris

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    Great pics!

    Thanks for all the great shots.

    How are those Salsa Disc 29er rims holding up to the abuse? I can't think of anyone who would be better to ask this question of as you have had them the longest and have WAAY more air time on them as well.

    I agree that you need steel bead Exi's, I think that the folding beads are stretching too much on your touchdowns.

    Happy trails!

    29erchico

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    Granite..the other white meat

    Ride shots from saturday.


    Poor Dusty Bottoms and his little wheels.

    Location: Chiquito Trail

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    What the EFF is "All MOUNTAIN"???

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