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    KE #038 - Something new, st old & st borrowed

    Name? How about Flandis? A tribute to inspiration and guts....

    So perhaps a let down after all my silly buildup but here are some pics of her. I have pretty much completed the bike for now but reserve the right to "upgrade" as I see fit. A dream to ride. It weighed just at 21 lbs. when I first got her but I've added weight so not sure anymore what it is, perhaps 21.5 lbs. She carried me through the Crested Butte Classic in fine form so I suppose properly broken in now, wouldn't you say.

    Is this enough to raise the wrath of Fo'? I doubt it but it may squeeze in. But perhaps there aren't enough matching parts and too many old bits - I'm betting.

    I went mullet.

    The New:
    ~ Kent Eriksen Ti 29'er frame w/ horizontal dropouts and seatpost
    ~ Pace carbon 26" (suspension corrected or 440mm) fork
    ~ CK pewter headset
    ~ CK red spacers and some carbons
    ~ Absolute Cycles red cap
    ~ XT crankset
    ~ MC built Mustang disc wheel w/ Ignitor tire and DT 240s hub (front)
    ~ XTR disc w/ XT rotor and lever
    ~ CK 20 tooth cog
    ~ Salsa skewers
    ~ Salsa seatpost clamp
    ~ Surly TugNut
    ~ SRAM PC68 chain
    ~ Oury grips
    ~ generic bottle cages from Wheat Ridge Cyclery

    The Old:
    ~ Surly 32 chainring
    ~ MC built DT TK 7.1 wheel w/ DT 240s ss hub and Exi tire (rear)
    ~ XTR v-brake and lever
    ~ WTB SST saddle
    ~ Shimano 959 pedals
    ~ Easton EA50 low-rise bar w/ Cane ends (28" wide)

    The Borrowed:
    ~ Ritchey stem (thanks JG)

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    Some closer-ups...

    for the heck of it...with more on the way.
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    Post #1,002...

    dork that I am yeah, I did it on purpose. Post #1,000 is a milestone.

    ** edit ** Ooops, it appears our post count just keeps going up and up now no matter how old the post.
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    Looks great! Long live the mullet!

    New bike...old seat...the sign of a real rider

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    And the finale...

    all done wasting your time
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    Tell us more about the seatpost? How does it work?

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    Super sweet!

    Rode it for a bit in CB...

    Such I nice bicycle ed...

    Very very nice bicycle.
    Read my BLOG!

    just a guy who loves bikes and exploring

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    Gorgeous!

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    Quote Originally Posted by donkey
    Tell us more about the seatpost? How does it work?

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    Yea Yea I wanna know too!!
    I like the simpler things in life! Your bike fits the bill...
    HUGH

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    Interesting tire set-up....
    Beautiful bike.

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    WOW! what an incredible bike! that is very Hugh-esque in terms of stellar build.

    I like it SO much better than that ahole Squeaky Wheels

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    Quote Originally Posted by FoShizzle
    WOW! what an incredible bike! that is very Hugh-esque in terms of stellar build.

    I like it SO much better than that ahole Squeaky Wheels

    Jealous.............

    Ed, beautiful bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Squeaky Wheel
    Jealous.............
    and......

    for the record, i would hate you even if you did not have such a sweet mo fo of a bike

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    Mullet??

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    Beautiful bike.
    Curious, why the Mullet??

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    Quote Originally Posted by edemtbs
    Name? How about Flandis? A tribute to inspiration and guts....

    So perhaps a let down after all my silly buildup but here are some pics of her. I have pretty much completed the bike for now but reserve the right to "upgrade" as I see fit. A dream to ride. It weighed just at 21 lbs. when I first got her but I've added weight so not sure anymore what it is, perhaps 21.5 lbs. She carried me through the Crested Butte Classic in fine form so I suppose properly broken in now, wouldn't you say.

    Is this enough to raise the wrath of Fo'? I doubt it but it may squeeze in. But perhaps there aren't enough matching parts and too many old bits - I'm betting.

    I went mullet.

    The New:
    ~ Kent Eriksen Ti 29'er frame w/ horizontal dropouts and seatpost
    ~ Pace carbon 26" (suspension corrected or 440mm) fork
    ~ CK pewter headset
    ~ CK red spacers and some carbons
    ~ Absolute Cycles red cap
    ~ XT crankset
    ~ MC built Mustang disc wheel w/ Ignitor tire and DT 240s hub (front)
    ~ XTR disc w/ XT rotor and lever
    ~ CK 20 tooth cog
    ~ Salsa skewers
    ~ Salsa seatpost clamp
    ~ Surly TugNut
    ~ SRAM PC68 chain
    ~ Oury grips
    ~ generic bottle cages from Wheat Ridge Cyclery

    The Old:
    ~ Surly 32 chainring
    ~ MC built DT TK 7.1 wheel w/ DT 240s ss hub and Exi tire (rear)
    ~ XTR v-brake and lever
    ~ WTB SST saddle
    ~ Shimano 959 pedals
    ~ Easton EA50 low-rise bar w/ Cane ends (28" wide)

    The Borrowed:
    ~ Ritchey stem (thanks JG)

    Ed E

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    Fo,
    And now to make you really jealous. Here's a pic of my newest toy.
    I hope you're enjoying your Xterra

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    Quote Originally Posted by edemtbs
    all done wasting your time
    Not wasting time at all. Thanks for the updated pics. Phenomenal bike!

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Squeaky Wheel
    Fo,
    And now to make you really jealous. Here's a pic of my newest toy.
    I hope you're enjoying your Xterra
    ha ha....i heard about that bad boy!

    I always knew you had a small penis

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    Quote Originally Posted by FoShizzle
    I always knew you had a small penis
    Water on keyboard via nose...

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    Quote Originally Posted by FoShizzle
    I always knew you had a small penis
    Is that what people whose wives won't let them have nice toys say?
    Sweet.

    Wish I had something snappier to say, but I don't. So I think I'll go enjoy my Friday day-off and zoot around on my jetski followed by a nice ride on my KE. Enjoy the rest of your workday in the cubicle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Squeaky Wheel
    Is that what people whose wives won't let them have nice toys say?
    Sweet.

    Wish I had something snappier to say, but I don't. So I think I'll go enjoy my Friday day-off and zoot around on my jetski followed by a nice ride on my KE. Enjoy the rest of your workday in the cubicle.
    how DARE you! I have an office

    cheers

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    Love the bike (and the 'Vette)!!!

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    Those frame welds are lovely...great looking bike..


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    Thanks ya'll...

    Quote Originally Posted by Just J
    Love the bike (and the 'Vette)!!!
    Ha-ha! Where's the bike rack on that 'Vette? Very sweet looking ride there.........damn that's a fine looking machine (I just peeked at it again).

    Those frame welds are lovely...great looking bike..
    I kind of find myself just staring at those welds in wonderment sometimes, they are magnificent.

    e,
    Beautiful bike.
    Curious, why the Mullet??

    C.
    Cause I didn't want an EBB or the sliders. To be sure I flip-flopped on this issue several times. I finally landed on; simplicity. And less to break. I know people love EBB's, I don't want to find out I hate them. The v-brake works just fine. I do think the frame would look a little cleaner without the v-brake but I also think the rear hub area looks nicer without a disc brake. Really a toss-up on this one.

    Jealous.............

    Ed, beautiful bike.
    YOU can't be!

    WOW! what an incredible bike! that is very Hugh-esque in terms of stellar build.

    I like it SO much better than that ahole Squeaky Wheels
    Well, Squeaky's jealous so maybe it IS better?

    Interesting tire set-up....
    Beautiful bike.
    The Exi rear and Ignitor front, yeah but who cares!!!! I'm waiting for the Panaracer Rampage!!!

    I like the simpler things in life! Your bike fits the bill...
    And pink bike bits are simple? Heh-heh Thanks Hugh, simplicity is exactly what I like.

    Rode it for a bit in CB...

    Such I nice bicycle ed...

    Very very nice bicycle.
    Yeah, well Dave how do you think those hella ti bars you have would look on this thing.....hmmmm. I may call James.

    Looks great! Long live the mullet!

    New bike...old seat...the sign of a real rider
    Thanks man! Thanks to everyone on this board for providing wisdom and inspiration and motivation to indulge in 'upgradeitis'

    Ed E

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    Sibling Rivalry

    See here's the thing, I'm not a parent so I have no idea how to properly deal with bickering children.

    "Walt!! You leave Kent alone. He's here to stay now and you'd just better get used to it!"

    Sheesh, it looks like I better take Walt out for a spin tomorrow

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    What do you say next Saturday, after you finish, have your valet take the bike back around to the bottom of the Headquarters trail, and hand it off to me? I'm sure your bike will have at least another 7 miles in the tank.

    As for your valet. S/he can take my rig back to the finish, clean it, put it on the rack and have beer and a slice ready for me when I cross the line.

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    so how *does* the seatpin work?? inquiring minds want to know....
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    Quote Originally Posted by lanpope
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    WTB SST 2k

    I ride that saddle too. Used them on my mountain bikes for along time, now the last remaining one is on my road bike. It makes tha candy-bar roadies stare, but I love it.

    Nice bike too. Those welds are like candy.....
    "Welcome to my underground lair...."

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    Beautiful ride!! Curious as to what you think of the two bikes, care to draw any comparisons? Nice rides, I'm sure somewhat tough to decide which to throw a leg over on a given day.

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    Wow.... now, I have to clean various bodily fluids off of my keyboard. Beautiful!!

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    as a fellow walt owner, i would also love to know how you feel about the ti ride vs. the fine steel ride once you get a chance to compare them.

    sibling rivalry indeed!

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    Do they log me out because I take too long to post?

    dRjOn
    so how *does* the seatpin work?? inquiring minds want to know....
    I doesn't have a clue.

    Lutarious
    I ride that saddle too. Used them on my mountain bikes for along time, now the last remaining one is on my road bike. It makes tha candy-bar roadies stare, but I love it.
    The day that saddle breaks, I cry.

    1 Speed
    Wow.... now, I have to clean various bodily fluids off of my keyboard. Beautiful!!
    Ummm, thanks. Use Arrogant Bastard ale to clean that mess up.

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    Beautiful ride!! Curious as to what you think of the two bikes, care to draw any comparisons? Nice rides, I'm sure somewhat tough to decide which to throw a leg over on a given day.
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    as a fellow walt owner, i would also love to know how you feel about the ti ride vs. the fine steel ride once you get a chance to compare them.
    Thanks. They are both really super bikes and I love riding both of them. I switch between the two frequently although the WW has mostly become my go-to commuting bike with a big gear while the KE has taken over race duties and most singletrack riding.

    The KE jumps when asked and floats when needed, it is quick and supple, stiff and light. The WW has a very special laid back feel and carves the trails like butter, it has a slightly beefier feel and is a touch more flexy. The KE rips into the singletrack while the WW tames it. They are both stable as all get out and the 29'er feel can't be beat. I swear the bigger wheels help the bike right itself when I push it on turns. The KE has a 12-3/4" bb height while the WW is 12-1/2", I haven't touched a pedal to the ground on the KE yet and I pedal through my turns a lot (175mm cranks)

    The WW still has the Hopey on it and I'm thinking the KE will also get one soon. I miss the Hopey when on the KE. It calms the ride down in general and I feel like the bike shoots forward easier when I pedal, I don't have to "think" about the steering...it's a tough thing to describe and not everyone gets the Hopey thing. But for a SS I think it's wonderful.

    The WW also got the Mary bar which did not give me the "Oh my Gawd this is the best handlebar EVER!" feeling like some people claim they get. It was originally destined for the KE but the KE got the super-wide low-rise bar from the WW instead. I'm still struggling to like the Mary.

    So WW is mostly getting a well deserved rest after over a year of very hard riding, it has seen some major epics. Although the SSV/Sourdough ride a couple of weeks ago jarred 'ol Walt back to life.

    Ed E
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    Beautiful bicycle!

    Sweet headset cap too!! Cycles?! Bikes

    I ordered my seat post with the special 007 clamp today with AB caps! I got a stupid special deal on a '05 X Caliber and I have to have a Ti post.

    BTW, KE loves the 98 SST-worth the weight in gold for him. He's not into the non-Italian made WTB 2K SST.

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    Better suited to non-aggressive 125# gals named Russell.
    I ride so slow, your Garmin will shut off.

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    Wow- you have a pair of beauties over there! What a committment to SSing.

    I must admit 2 things right now:
    a) KE's welds are just un-freaking-believable. I keep staring at them!
    b) Your bar/grip/bar end combo is certainly interesting. I never argue with comfort factors on each person's machine (can't be right or wrong about semantics), but it's the only part of your bike that doesn't "flow" for me. I can deal with the mullet! I like your reasoning there.

    Enjoy 'em both!
    And no, the 'vette does nothing for me, except be thankful that I don't have to drive that past the gas stations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by banks
    Beautiful bicycle!

    Sweet headset cap too!! Cycles?! Bikes

    I ordered my seat post with the special 007 clamp today with AB caps! I got a stupid special deal on a '05 X Caliber and I have to have a Ti post.

    BTW, KE loves the 98 SST-worth the weight in gold for him. He's not into the non-Italian made WTB 2K SST.

    Scoty
    Hey Scoty - Thanks. You'll be seeing her in person very soon if you're around in about a week.

    007 w/ AB caps!!! Oh now I'm jealous!

    KE and I talked about those saddles when I told him how much I loved mine. He stockpiled a whole bunch for himself before they stopped making them.

    See you soon -

    Ed E

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    Quote Originally Posted by OneGearGuy
    a) KE's welds are just un-freaking-believable. I keep staring at them!
    He's not welding them.
    Quote Originally Posted by mikesee
    Better suited to non-aggressive 125# gals named Russell.
    I ride so slow, your Garmin will shut off.

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    ... and if we just ...

    Quote Originally Posted by edemtbs
    Hey Scoty - Thanks. You'll be seeing her in person very soon if you're around in about a week.
    I'm gone back to RI Friday through Monday then off to Shimano Techincal Insitute @ Barnetts on Friday & Saturday.

    Vapor Trail?

    Scoty
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    Better suited to non-aggressive 125# gals named Russell.
    I ride so slow, your Garmin will shut off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by banks
    Vapor Trail?

    Scoty
    Yup. I may be around through Monday afterwards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OneGearGuy
    Wow- you have a pair of beauties over there! What a committment to SSing.

    I must admit 2 things right now:
    a) KE's welds are just un-freaking-believable. I keep staring at them!
    b) Your bar/grip/bar end combo is certainly interesting. I never argue with comfort factors on each person's machine (can't be right or wrong about semantics), but it's the only part of your bike that doesn't "flow" for me. I can deal with the mullet! I like your reasoning there.

    Enjoy 'em both!
    And no, the 'vette does nothing for me, except be thankful that I don't have to drive that past the gas stations.

    OGG and his avg. penis
    Thanks OGG.

    Chris Moore is doing the welding at KE and he does a damn fine job!

    LOL. The handlebar/grip/bar end combo is purely for my comfort. That setup works wonders for me and I can ride mega hours on any terrain in that cockpit. Aesthetics aside I love it. If you look at the bike from certain angles the flow isn't too bad

    Ed E

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    so those pins are available separeately? am looking for a 400mm + ti pin...is length an 'option'?

    im guessing its like the bonty posts, or even old race face in a side compression on rails...hmmm...
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    That’s a beautiful bike edemtbs!

    dRjOn, my guess is that it is a polished USE SUMO Ti post. It’s available in a 400mm length, and looks like a sweet design. If not it’s very, very similar.

    Cheers, Dave.


    EDIT: Sorry, it sounds like those posts are made in house?? It’s a very similar design anyway.
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    hmmm may have similar mechanism, but having used/seen use stuff and being from uk where it is for some reason popular, i avoid it like the airports. plague i mean...
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    Wow Ed, that thing is beautiful! I like the headcap too.

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    eh...dig the matching brake levers...snazzy.

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    Inredible bike! I LOVE it!!!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cocheese
    Inredible bike! I LOVE it!!!!!!!!
    Ummmm...haven't you had enough time to think about it cocheese, what's the decision? Or are the anticipation and decision making anxiety giving you an endorphin high? Or did I miss something

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    Well, right now I'm trying to decide which route to take. It's either going to be an EBB frame with braze ons and gear-ready OR a geary sans EBB. I have a SS that I love and plan on doing the mullet thing in the future at some point, so I'm leaning towards the dedicated geared bike at this point. The only thing holding me back is the fact that the EBB equipped bike would be VERY versatile...3x9, 2x9, 1x9, SS, Rohloff, ??? In talking to Kent he is pointing me in the direction of focusing on gears OR SS, not really both. I fully understand what he is talking about; not wanting to serve two masters and such. He also understands that it is a sizeable investment, so I should put the proper amount of thought into it before making a final decision.

    So, to answer your question I am in this sort of "options anxiety"/"purgatory of choices" phase. Any help? Suggestions? Counseling?!?!?!?!?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cocheese
    Any help? Suggestions? Counseling?!?!?!?!?!
    My KE is EBB with braze-ons although I could only run a middle & granny ring should I choose to go geared.
    But I don't see myself going geared at any point in the future.
    If you plan on running a triple ring crank in the future then I see Kent's point but otherwise you could do what I did and decide for yourself later

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    Quote Originally Posted by cocheese
    So, to answer your question I am in this sort of "options anxiety"/"purgatory of choices" phase. Any help? Suggestions? Counseling?!?!?!?!?!
    Help? Sorry but any counseling that I give will only cause severe mental damage. Here goes;

    Talk to your riding buddies endlessly about the options you're trying to decide on. Especially pick on the knowledgeable ones and go in circles with things. One week be on the EBB thing, the following week suddenly Paragon sliders are the shiznit. Spend two hours on the phone discussing the minutia of geometry and fork compliance. They will all appreciate your confidence in their expertise and opinion and will never get bored.

    Drink beer and logon to MTBR and waste your life away looking at pics and reading opinions. When you're good and drunk start posting inane questions.

    After the MTBR session, count your money again.

    Toss and turn at night. Wake up at 2am in a cold sweat and think about how nice those gears are gonna be then agonize over the simplicity of having a dedicated SS. Rohloff hub!! Oh dear God what am I gonna do? Sweat the details don't let anything slip by you. Worry about how it will look when you post on MTBR; will everything match? Is there a "pop" color chosen or is it stealth?

    Make up your mind and confidently send the builder a note or call him/her and declare with booming voice that "This is how it's gonna be and that's it!!" The next day when those pangs of doubt gnaw at you, call them back, chagrined and tell them you just want to make sure that they think it's the right thing to do. If any doubts remain after that, politely request to put it on hold again while you repeat the above steps.

    BUT SERIOUSLY, here are some thoughts. You already have a SS that you love - good! Keep it and ride it, you don't need another SS (and you're already thinking of a future mullet - good grief man!). Are you seriously going to change to all those gear configurations you describe or just stick with what you start with? My opinion - just stick with what you start and bag the EBB. Go gearie and be happy. Trying to cover all the bases at once just muddies the waters.

    And it seems you've gone with Kent, I did not know that. I think that is a great choice!!

    These opinions are mine and despite the fact that I've shared them on a public forum I take no responsibility for future regrets and second-guessing. Your mileage may vary.

    Good luck dude -

    Ed E
    Last edited by edemtbs; 08-11-2006 at 07:16 PM.

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    Thanks Squeaky. Your frame is the reason I'm holding out until I know for sure that I want to do.

    Ed, it sounds like you are as much of a nut-case as I am! I following you on all counts! SCARY! I hear you on the not-trying-to-be-jack-of-all-trades sort of bike. I get that midnight cold sweat thing too...always second guessing myself on big decisions. As they say down in the South, "Fish or cut bait."

    Thanks for the help guys and I'll keep you posted for sure.

    Back to the thread here. I caused a lil' detour here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by max-a-mill
    as a fellow walt owner, i would also love to know how you feel about the ti ride vs. the fine steel ride once you get a chance to compare them.
    And I'm looking for a comparo Pace carbon vs. Walt steel. I have one of each at the moment, not sure which to put on a frame I have incoming. Had been thinking my Walt fork ('specially since it's going on a Walt frame) then I just got my hands on a Pace 29er which looks mighty fine too. Course it feels lighter (don't have a digi scale) but as rigid forks go, would you say the Pace offers a smoother ride vs. the Walt?

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