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    Karate Monkey Size?

    I’m going to purchase a Karate Monkey, but none of the dealers in my city carry any in stock. I don’t know which size to buy. I’m exactly 6’2” with a 36.5” inseam. The various bikes shops I’ve spoken to say I could go with 20” or 22”. I plan on using 60% street-commuter and 40% single track. Currently I’ve got a 21” Ventana Pantera (with 90 mm stem) and a 21” KHS Soft Tail with 135 mm stem, and both fit good. This is my first 29” bike and would like to hear some recommendations on sizing. I plan on using stock rigid fork and 27-speed set-up.

    I posted an earlier message this week asking for general opinions on the Karate Monkey – and people thought it was a ridiculous enquiry so the thread was closed. I did not see any reviews on the “Product Review” section of mtbr.com. Having since read some of the “forum” postings it’s obvious these are extremely popular frames.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hogleg
    I don?t know which size to buy. I?m exactly 6?2? with a 36.5? .
    That's a huge inseam. Can you even find pants with a 37'' inseam?

    I'm 6'1'' w/ a 33'' inseam and I bought a large (20). My buddy is a few inches taller than me w/ an inseam closer (but not quite that big) to yours and he rides an XL.

    Lots of question marks in your message. What the heck are you typing on? Web-TV or something?

    Hope this helps.

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    What's your desired top tube length?

    Seems to me either a 20" or a 22" could work for leg extension, but what is your desired TT length? Short torso could dictate a 20", especially if your arms are short/regular length. Long arms? Then I would go with the 22".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carl Mega
    That's a huge inseam. Can you even find pants with a 37'' inseam?

    I'm 6'1'' w/ a 33'' inseam and I bought a large (20). My buddy is a few inches taller than me w/ an inseam closer (but not quite that big) to yours and he rides an XL.

    Lots of question marks in your message. What the heck are you typing on? Web-TV or something?

    Hope this helps.
    My pant size is arround 34/35. Actual inseam is usually a couple inches longer than pant size. I measured using the method posted on wrenchscience.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guitar Ted
    Seems to me either a 20" or a 22" could work for leg extension, but what is your desired TT length? Short torso could dictate a 20", especially if your arms are short/regular length. Long arms? Then I would go with the 22".
    I guess my torso is kind of short, but I've got long arms. For a fitted shirt I wear 35-36 inch length. The 20" and 22" TT length is somewhere between my KHS, about the same size as my Ventana. Are their other sizing issues I should consider going from 26 - 29 inch wheel? If I’m comfortable with a 24 inch TT on a 26 inch bike, would I like it on a 29 inch bike?

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    I must be a freak. Using WS method I'm a 33.25 but I wear 34 pants.

    I believe the TT length difference between L and XL is like .5'' or so. I can't comment on TT length and the differences/similarities between 26 and 29 wheels. I don't think it should make a difference but I'm new at this 29er stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hogleg
    I guess my torso is kind of short, but I've got long arms. For a fitted shirt I wear 35-36 inch length. The 20" and 22" TT length is somewhere between my KHS, about the same size as my Ventana. Are their other sizing issues I should consider going from 26 - 29 inch wheel? If I’m comfortable with a 24 inch TT on a 26 inch bike, would I like it on a 29 inch bike?
    My Blur has a 23.3 TT (C-C) and a 20.5 ST and I use a 120mm stem, I bought a 20" KM (23.4 TT (C-C)) and put on a 120 stem and was a perfect fit. As long as you get the saddle to bar length the same you sould be alright.

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    Lg

    I am 6' 1" 34" inseam, 35/36 dress shirt sleeve length. Riding a LG Monkey with a 120 stem Thomson layback post. Sweet ride!!!!!

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    6'4", 39.2" inseam, 34W36L jeans, arms out of any mfts sizing table, XL KM with 110mm stem, if used with plain 5º bar. Now 140mm and Jones H-bar.
    I'd say both L and XL will work. As geometry is the same, only wheelbase differs a little bit. If you can't testride, looks may be decisive. The 22" is really 23.4 (add 1.4" for seattube over toptube extension), not a whole lot of seatpost exposed. XL has a retro retro, being as tall as a 60cm road bike, with barely sloping toptube. I (wet finger in air) guess you'd end up with a 100mm stem on the XL, 105 on the L, for a racey position.

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    Again LG

    I test rode the XL but felt like I would have a little more standover on the LG and I like a little more seatpost out, think I get a little more flex maybe.

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    my 2 cents

    I'm 6'3" and you have an inch on the inseam on me. I have a Large and was thinking about a X large in the future. I use a 130 stem and Thomson set back post. With your inseam XL might be better and the longer head tube will help with hadle bar height.

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    I'm just going to confuse things

    but I'm 6'2" with a 36 inch inseam (measured by wrenchscience method) and I ride a Large KM with a Moots layback post, Thomson 110x15 stem with a 1.5 inch riser. I love it. My arms might be a little shorter than average for my height. Dress shirt sleeves are 34.

    I have plenty of standover and my knee seems to be in the right place in regards to the pedal, yada yada. I love the fit and the way the bike rides.

    Good luck!

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    Everyone keeps talking about having a Thompson setback seat post. Is a setback post recommended for the KM geometry?

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    The karate Monkey reminds me of this time I went to Dallas St. For a rigid bike it can hit the rocks. Its a beast.
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    Sorry to bring this up again, but I figured I'd be good and search before posting this exact thread.

    I'm 6-2 with a 36" inseam, and 35" shirt sleeves. When fitted for my road bike this summer, I had to go with a size smaller in able to get my desired top-tube length.

    I'm not up on my mt. bike fitting, but what I'm riding now is a 19" HardRock with a 588mm top tube length, and a 120mm x 25 degree stem with a 1" riser bar to get the front high enough. Without the riser bar, I kept feeling nose heavy. When I raise my seatpost to a good height, it still seems a little too racy for me.

    Going with that and my personal judgement, I'd guess a 20" would be good for me. It has a 594.5mm TT length, so I could go with maybe a little shorter stem. Any thoughts?

    Of course, I'm not buying one...yet. I'd like to wait until I graduate and settle down a little, but I want to get the brown before they stop selling it.

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    I ended up ordering a brown 20 inch a few weeks ago. I’m still waiting for delivery, apparently there’s quite a back log from the factory (at least I’ll have time to build a wheel set in the meantime). I’m ordering a Thompson layback post and will probably use an existing 120 mm Thompson stem that I have on hand. I’ll let you know how it rides after I’m up and running.

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