J or H bars- Mtbr.com
Results 1 to 13 of 13

Thread: J or H bars

  1. #1
    the mountian is within
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Nov 2004
    Posts
    543

    J or H bars

    I keep seaching-but not getting a clear idea...
    Am building a monstercross soon-i have a J bar-show me set-ups with shifters and list soe pros and cons,please.
    We are snowed in and i need to read!!
    Thanks!
    Bz
    i own a bikeshop in WV thetruewheelwv.com

  2. #2
    Expert Crasher
    Reputation: GreenLightGo's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Posts
    6,349
    Pros and cons of what? Shifters or the H-bar/J-bar difference - or the alt sweep bars in general?

    I've owned/used both.

    <a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/cRCxLwXeiCKgWGRc4Geh_Q?feat=embedwebsite"><img src="https://lh4.ggpht.com/_2W6rELw9q40/SmJuVZWIIKI/AAAAAAAADZc/e52aOkNXZo0/s800/updated%20grips.JPG" /></a>

    <a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/PGkaGgM4HjPohEoT27xBQg?feat=embedwebsite"><img src="https://lh6.ggpht.com/_2W6rELw9q40/SAVpwHvEppI/AAAAAAAABmM/wbviY-WwuQw/s800/IMG_2949.JPG" /></a>

    <a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/fwb8CT_-ooQFF_0n-b78cg?feat=embedwebsite"><img src="https://lh3.ggpht.com/_2W6rELw9q40/Sanpoi-b0VI/AAAAAAAAC4A/sh2Iy5sASwo/s800/IMG_3521.JPG" /></a>
    Happiness depends more on the inward disposition of mind than on outward circumstances. Benjamin Franklin

  3. #3
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Posts
    483
    I just got a set of Titec H bars, and so far I really love them. I'm running ESI Chunkies and Jonesesque bar wrapping. Im considering cutting the the front extensions down similar to above.

    You can't go wrong with either. I chose the H bar do to the rise and slight forward sweep.
    Last edited by worrptangl; 02-10-2010 at 10:07 PM.

  4. #4
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Posts
    1,266
    I've run the ti h-bars for over two years and love them.
    I've run them in single speed mode with XTR brake levers.
    I've run them geared with paul thumbies and xtr brake levers which work fine with the bars. I ran the thumbies in friction mode and while there is a learning curve in terms of shifting, the shifters are indestructible, and are capable of producing reliable shifts even when the drivetrain is caked with mud. Also you can dump gears really easily. The ergonomics are decent.
    However, the best set up in terms of ergonomics/use, and I never thought a would sing their praises are with the new generation Shimano dual control shifters. I got the XTS cheap, and they rock with the h-bars. You can shift and brake with your hands in a variety of different positions on the bars, and you also have full use of all the hand positions that the bars offer. With the new generation the braking action is very positive(Avid BB7) and they don't suffer from the super wobbly lever of earlier versions. Again, I hated the concept when it first came out, but with the hbars and new incarnation they are a match made in heaven.

  5. #5
    the mountian is within
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Nov 2004
    Posts
    543
    Thanks-i have tried bartape-comes lose kinda quick(i have taped for 25yrs-not my skills)
    the ESI chunky/tape combo looks good. I am going to use shifters-anyone have the splitclamp 'thumbies'-cant remember the brand-from merry sales? Wondering about those on the flat of the bar. My old xt thumb wont go around the bend. Tried an old 8sp LX shift/brake combo-i am using canti's-the ergonomics were terrible.
    I guess i could do v/disc and new dual shim.-i just have so many retro parts-and a J-Bar i cant get rid of-but like the concept of using. So give me more photos-and any negatives to help my decision please!
    Thanks!
    Bz
    i own a bikeshop in WV thetruewheelwv.com

  6. #6
    wawe member
    Reputation: Black Bart's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2004
    Posts
    892
    I used to use them on a 1x9 setup, Avid SD7 levers with an XT shifter ('03-'04ish?). I removed the indicator window from the shifter and covered the exposed opening with clear packing tape to allow the lever and shifter to fit as close as possible. The thumb lever on the shifter limits how far you can rotate the levers as it will hit the crossbar, was comfy for me, YMMV.


    J or H bars-jonesx9.jpg

  7. #7
    I'm how far behind?
    Reputation: Soloracer's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Posts
    571
    Quote Originally Posted by 29buzz
    Thanks-i have tried bartape-comes lose kinda quick(i have taped for 25yrs-not my skills)

    3M adhesive spray is mandatory IMO for these bars. I too have been wrapping bars for decades and couldn't get the tape to stay put until I talked to Jeff and he told me to use the 3M spray.
    Fatter than most.

  8. #8
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Posts
    1,266
    I have had no problems with wrapping cinelli cork tape straight out the box. Pull it tight and it never comes undone. I do use 3m spray when putting on the oury grips though. I also find if I wrap a layer of cloth hockey stick tape under the oury grips, and then slide them on using 3m spray it makes for a better fit, and the grips don't rotate like ourys tend to do.

  9. #9
    Expert Crasher
    Reputation: GreenLightGo's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Posts
    6,349
    Quote Originally Posted by Soloracer
    3M adhesive spray is mandatory IMO for these bars. I too have been wrapping bars for decades and couldn't get the tape to stay put until I talked to Jeff and he told me to use the 3M spray.
    It's not necessary. No 3M spray on mine, have wrapped my J-bar 3x and not needed it. Didn't need it with the current Fizik tape or previous Cinelli Cork.

    Now - the cork grips - they need the 3M or they'll spin.

    <a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/qt3Rk3bjxcPLof5d69OoTA?feat=embedwebsite"><img src="https://lh4.ggpht.com/_2W6rELw9q40/SZQGJ7sA2wI/AAAAAAAAC2s/OpgAilpChzQ/s800/IMG_4480.JPG" /></a>
    Happiness depends more on the inward disposition of mind than on outward circumstances. Benjamin Franklin

  10. #10
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Posts
    483
    I'll try to get pics up of mine, but that is the same way i wrapped mine but I have chunkies on there. ^^^^

  11. #11
    Expert Crasher
    Reputation: GreenLightGo's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Posts
    6,349
    I have ESI Chunky's underneath the Fizik tape. Used some old take off cork tape to build up for smooth transitions.

    FWIW - the Fizik tape is great. Very durable, tacky when sweaty. I smacked a tree and broke the end cap on the left grip (end caps from OURY lock ons). Tape is still in one piece and I was able to work it so I got a clean wrap using some Hope bar plugs.

    <a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/kgAfsKH4YdKbFgVrFG3_iw?feat=embedwebsite"><img src="https://lh6.ggpht.com/_2W6rELw9q40/SmJumwTwl4I/AAAAAAAADZk/9b3Ozuo0Rsw/s800/IMG_4844.JPG" /></a>

    <a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/m7CZLd-qpF0E-n745uPB1A?feat=embedwebsite"><img src="https://lh5.ggpht.com/_2W6rELw9q40/Su4hz5n_iWI/AAAAAAAADek/P_1Lv3OxbAg/s800/IMG_5481.JPG" /></a>
    Happiness depends more on the inward disposition of mind than on outward circumstances. Benjamin Franklin

  12. #12
    anyone else smell that?
    Reputation: jgsatl's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2006
    Posts
    2,314
    <table style="width:auto;"><tr><td><a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/CBUywRyM7awLE5HuMmepdA?feat=embedwebsite"><img src="https://lh3.ggpht.com/_OaBJvrKi-70/SfOXjXnaWDI/AAAAAAAACk0/swP3tGVzsKU/s800/P1000706.JPG" /></a></td></tr><tr><td style="font-family:arial,sans-serif; font-size:11px; text-align:right">From <a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/2wheelsgud/Rawland042509?feat=embedwebsite">rawland042509</a></td></tr></table>
    1. Your signature can not be longer than 125 characters.

  13. #13
    Birthday Collector
    Reputation: ATBScott's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2006
    Posts
    2,604
    I have the J-bars and run the on my SS with Dimension Cork grips and Cinelli cork tape wrapped on the rest of the bars. At the moment, my bike is set-up 1x9 - I got injured and then sick, and lack of fitness made me decide to add gears for a few weeks to get some base miles in. Since I run my brake levers tilted down at a pretty steep angle, the Rapidfire lever didn't really work well in the "normal" position. So - I removed the indicator and put a Park peel 'n stick patch over the hole, and have it on the extension, inverted. It works OK for a few week situation without having to buy some other shifter (I had an XT RR shifter set kicking around...) If I ran it that way all the time, I too would go with the Dual-Control lever on the rear shifter. (I used the XTR Dual Control for years - I was one of the few people that really liked them - but not Rapid-Rise - used a regular RD with it and fine! I liked the position of the J-bar better than the H-bar - and the larger stem/clamp interface. Both are so much better than flat or regular riser bars, IMO.
    R.I.P. Corky 10/97-4/09
    Disclaimer: I sell and repair bikes for a living


Members who have read this thread: 0

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

THE SITE

ABOUT MTBR

VISIT US AT

© Copyright 2019 VerticalScope Inc. All rights reserved.