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    Quote Originally Posted by rroeder
    Damn is that pic of Fo foreal?
    You mean...you didn't get his family Christmas card?


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    this is the worst bike i have ever seen. ever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bogmonster
    Turned out really nice Fo, i really dig it!!! Starting a new project of my own with my EWR frame.


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    Merry X-mas
    thx bog, and especially thx for staying on topic. These other dolts can't even have common decency on Christmas.

    as for the EWR, am I confused or did you not try to sell it?? i may have you mixed up with another or did you opt now not to sell and make her as you want?

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    Quote Originally Posted by demc1982
    this is the worst bike i have ever seen. ever.
    and that is what I want people to think as i want it to remain original

    i am not yet ready for my PRO REVIEW but I did just get out for the 1st ride. In summary, as much as I love the Sultan and its the best FS bike I have ever owned, I will be shocked if I ride the Sultan much anymore. This bike may indeed be exactly what I was hoping for...a trailbike for all around rides where I would otherwise take a Sultan-like bike and frankly, the only place I may miss FS is on technical climbs, period, though SS momentum mode is of course easier on this bike so its a toss up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FoShizzle
    and that is what I want people to think as i want it to remain original

    i am not yet ready for my PRO REVIEW but I did just get out for the 1st ride. In summary, as much as I love the Sultan and its the best FS bike I have ever owned, I will be shocked if I ride the Sultan much anymore. This bike may indeed be exactly what I was hoping for...a trailbike for all around rides where I would otherwise take a Sultan-like bike and frankly, the only place I may miss FS is on technical climbs, period, though SS momentum mode is of course easier on this bike so its a toss up.
    How much?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeeZee
    How much?
    And what size?

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    Moderators...please move this thread to the All Mountain forum immediately. Thank you!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by FoShizzle
    thanks EB...yeah, its all relative. Most 29er hardtails are (intentionally) XC so yeah, a 29 lb hardtail doesnt seem logical to many. To me and you it does as its a bike intended to do anything my 30 lb FS trailbike can do so if not a 29 lb hardtail, it simply couldnt serve that purpose effectively IMHO
    I saw a Lynskey at the shop the other day...unfortunatly it was not a Foskey. Quite an interesting downtube design.
    I was just thinking the weight of your new bike is almost as much as your Sultan. The 68.5 degreee HA is spot on IMO (my HT is about the same with a 51mm offset fork and it handles awesome) and the hammershizzle is way cool...it should be a sweet ride.

    Merry Christmas Fo....glad you got what you wanted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yogiprophet
    I saw a Lynskey at the shop the other day...unfortunatly it was not a Foskey. Quite an interesting downtube design.
    I was just thinking the weight of your new bike is almost as much as your Sultan. The 68.5 degreee HA is spot on IMO (my HT is about the same with a 51mm offset fork and it handles awesome) and the hammershizzle is way cool...it should be a sweet ride.

    Merry Christmas Fo....glad you got what you wanted.
    thanks so much

    yeah, its great and gonna do 2nd ride this morning and cannot wait.

    sultan is about 30.5 lbs but of course does not have the hammer (has XTR 970s), has lighter wheels, to include lighter tires, does have a gravity diaper device otherwise, similar builds. So yeah, if you swapped the lynskey frame with a sultan it would probably be a bit more than 30.5 - i have no idea what the FoSkey frame alone weighs and never will know

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeeZee
    How much?
    ha! well, like i told you...i will now have 2 FS bikes in a few months and ultimately, one will need to go
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    Quote Originally Posted by FoShizzle
    thanks so much

    yeah, its great and gonna do 2nd ride this morning and cannot wait.

    sultan is about 30.5 lbs but of course does not have the hammer (has XTR 970s), has lighter wheels, to include lighter tires, does have a gravity diaper device otherwise, similar builds. So yeah, if you swapped the lynskey frame with a sultan it would probably be a bit more than 30.5 - i have no idea what the FoSkey frame alone weighs and never will know
    Fo is this a real ride or an e-ride? Has this thing hit "the dirt" yet? Need some pics to prove it has been ridden "off road".

    Ps. please keep the Fo'head out of the pics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeeZee
    Fo is this a real ride or an e-ride? Has this thing hit "the dirt" yet? Need some pics to prove it has been ridden "off road".

    Ps. please keep the Fo'head out of the pics.
    ha! yes, hit dirt yesterday for a shakedown/dial in ride, but solo of course (i have no friends as you know), and today's ride too may be solo as i didnt connect with "friends" till this morning and likely too late to meet up, i.e., will be no pics as i hate bothering when on the trail

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    Hi all ! A couple of comments....bike sure is *****en' but that H.S. ( in my opinion ) seems to be a solution to a non front derailler problem . But then that is why they make vanilla and chocolate . Everyone says how that frame is so flexy , they say the same about my IF Ti Deluxe......of course it flexy ....it's Ti ! Otherwise it would feel like aluminum.........really sweet ride overall !

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    Quote Originally Posted by ibis26
    Hi all ! A couple of comments....bike sure is *****en' but that H.S. ( in my opinion ) seems to be a solution to a non front derailler problem . But then that is why they make vanilla and chocolate . Everyone says how that frame is so flexy , they say the same about my IF Ti Deluxe......of course it flexy ....it's Ti ! Otherwise it would feel like aluminum.........really sweet ride overall !
    the HS was definitely not something I viewed as a "solution" to a problem at all. primary driver was that i wanted a pseudo SS setup (2 front , 1 rear) where i could have a crutch (lower gear) for long climbs to give this old man a break. Having said that, granted only 1 ride so far but wow, this thing is amazing and i am already in love with the HS. while i have never really had a complaint about front der i gotta say, i fear i may now...it is SO amazing how it works, truly...more to come

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    As has been mentioned elsewhere, have you noticed any "drag" or inefficiency in the overdrive gear?

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    Quote Originally Posted by [email protected]
    As has been mentioned elsewhere, have you noticed any "drag" or inefficiency in the overdrive gear?

    If it's anything like my Rohloff, which was a power robbing sucker on the climbs in gears 3, 5, and 7, and only fairly normal in gear 11, I'd pass on it and live with a FD. Adding 1.4 pounds to make it a 2 ring seems crazy to me, as did adding 3 pounds to make it 14 gears on a Rohloff. Maybe when they can make a HS a tringle speeder, I'll look at one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by [email protected]
    As has been mentioned elsewhere, have you noticed any "drag" or inefficiency in the overdrive gear?
    I don't know about Fo, but I sure notice it on mine.

    Still wouldn't give it up though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FoShizzle
    ha! yes, hit dirt yesterday for a shakedown/dial in ride, but solo of course (i have no friends as you know), and today's ride too may be solo as i didnt connect with "friends" till this morning and likely too late to meet up, i.e., will be no pics as i hate bothering when on the trail

    Fo, we got a 10 AM start, didn't look too hard for the Lynski or the FoSki either. How was Little Pine? I suspect the Epic E riding has begun already on the new steed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enel
    I don't know about Fo, but I sure notice it on mine.

    Still wouldn't give it up though.
    well, only now 2 rides and i am not sure I "notice" anything. sure on paper for the e-ngineers on mtbr there is something going on...when engaged to the 1.6 ratio you can "hear" something but i personally doubt it translates into anything tangible/meaningful on the trail - i really dont notice any impact on actual riding, though for e-riding i guess it does matter to some.

    wont do a PRO REVIEW worthy ride till New Years but I can say that so far bike is making me very happy as i compare it against what i had hoped. The HS as I have noted is not something I got because I was unhappy with front der performance. Having said that, now that I have experienced the HS my view of shifting has changed and I would swap my other geared bike tomorrow if i could. Its honestly amazing and you simply cannot IMHO judge whether you would like it or not based on a pros/cons list you could write down on paper. In summary, its totally rad, along with the rest of the bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RandyBoy
    Fo, we got a 10 AM start, didn't look too hard for the Lynski or the FoSki either. How was Little Pine? I suspect the Epic E riding has begun already on the new steed.
    yeah, sorry bout that...had planned to ride with 2turners and others but flaked as i had no internet/phone access last night. by the way, the little pine rides was NOT today, that is planned for New Years which i still want to do. Today I only had time for another very short (1.5 hr) local ride, but at least with a tiny bit of tech to get a better sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FoShizzle
    the little pine rides was NOT today, that is planned for New Years which i still want to do.
    Hope to see you out there. The forecast is a bit "iffy" at the moment. Will you be bringing the Lynskey? Are you planning on climbing up Cameusa Connector from Lower Oso on the way to the high point? I'll be interested in how your bike climbs and descends the switchbacks @ the route.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FoShizzle
    well, only now 2 rides and i am not sure I "notice" anything. sure on paper for the e-ngineers on mtbr there is something going on...when engaged to the 1.6 ratio you can "hear" something but i personally doubt it translates into anything tangible/meaningful on the trail - i really dont notice any impact on actual riding, though for e-riding i guess it does matter to some.
    I sometimes wonder if some of the resistance I notice is the difference between a 22-32 shift I have been used to for years and a 22-36 equivalent shift. Definitely a bigger jump than typical. But yeah, it is noisy and I notice resistance like on a Rohloff. Perhaps the resistance is due to my lousy pedaling, ancient single pivot frame.

    I still love it and wouldn't go back to a front derailleur. I would like to see a 20t front though.
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    And I thought I had a bike obsession. You are at once tragic and awesome.

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    I can hear the planetary gears humming & feel the vibration transmitted through the cranks...but, definitely couldn't say it is negatively affecting efficiency. That seems more of an E-placebo determination than anything else. Great system for sure!


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    Quote Originally Posted by jncarpenter
    I can hear the planetary gears humming & feel the vibration transmitted through the cranks...but, definitely couldn't say it is negatively affecting efficiency. That seems more of an E-placebo determination than anything else. Great system for sure!
    Somewhat off topic, but when I was rolling my single pivot, and doing a 3.9 mile 1800 ft climb, my best time with my Rohloff was 56:16 and my best time on my Hugi Freeride hubbed wheel was 50:05. About a 13% loss on the Rohloff when climbing. 3 different timed climbs compared indicated loss of time of 11 to 14%.

    I'd be interested in Fo using a strap on Garmin and doing some timed climbs, same route, both with the HS and a 2 ring 22 x 36, to compare times, over the same course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RandyBoy
    Somewhat off topic, but when I was rolling my single pivot, and doing a 3.9 mile 1800 ft climb, my best time with my Rohloff was 56:16 and my best time on my Hugi Freeride hubbe wheel was 50:05. About a 13% loss on the Rohloff when climbing. 3 different timed climbs compared indicated loss of time of 11 to 14%.

    I'd be interested in Fo using a strap on Garmin and doing some timed climbs, same route, both with the HS and a 2 ring 22 x 36, to compare times, over the same course.
    Although that is far from scientific analysis....Fo + "strap on" =


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    Quote Originally Posted by jncarpenter
    I can hear the planetary gears humming & feel the vibration transmitted through the cranks...but, definitely couldn't say it is negatively affecting efficiency. That seems more of an E-placebo determination than anything else. Great system for sure!
    I agree and nicely characterized actually!

    p.s. you are still an ahole in my book though

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    Quote Originally Posted by FoShizzle
    i am not yet ready for my PRO REVIEW
    If you want some pointers, I did some reviewing recently. One was built by Lynskey, and it did just fine.

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    My video techniques can be found in this thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FoShizzle

    wont do a PRO REVIEW worthy ride till New Years
    When you do your pro review, can you comment on the tapered Reba compared to your standard Reba on the Sultan?
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    And I thought I had a bike obsession. You are at once tragic and awesome.

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    Pretty cool bike BTW

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enel
    When you do your pro review, can you comment on the tapered Reba compared to your standard Reba on the Sultan?
    the PRO REVIEW will be provided after tomorrow's ride.

    however, based on 2 rides so far and based on the fact there is NO way for me to ride an otherwise IDENTICAL bike with a non tapered headtube and REBA, there is no way I will be able to say anything other than tapered forks/headtubes probably are not worse than non tapered fork-headtube combos

    I am sure the e-ngineers profess things one way or the other but I will remain as having no clue as to whether or not it is stiffer or not in a meaningful way (i.e., whether or not it matters ON THE TRAIL and not just within some Physics 101 textbook)

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    Quote Originally Posted by FoShizzle
    the PRO REVIEW will be provided after tomorrow's ride.

    however, based on 2 rides so far and based on the fact there is NO way for me to ride an otherwise IDENTICAL bike with a non tapered headtube and REBA, there is no way I will be able to say anything other than tapered forks/headtubes probably are not worse than non tapered fork-headtube combos

    I am sure the e-ngineers profess things one way or the other but I will remain as having no clue as to whether or not it is stiffer or not in a meaningful way (i.e., whether or not it matters ON THE TRAIL and not just within some Physics 101 textbook)
    WTF FO! Why haven't you gotten it through your thick skull that it doesn't matter how it rides ON THE TRAIL as long as it makes sense on paper.
    BTW, have a great New Years ride tomorrow. I know I will.

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    It really won't matter if the tapered head-tube makes the front end stiffer or not. With that noodly rear end and down tube and the rear tire rubbing holes in the ti chainstays he will not be able to discern what the front end is doing.
    My brain went from "you probably shouldn't say that" to WTF!

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    Short-term Ride Impressions

    Will keep this short as I hate cliches and if one rambles it's inevitable that a review, short-term or otherwise, sounds like cut-and-pastes from something else already posted.

    In summary, acknowledging its just my opinion based on my riding style based on my terrain based on my subjective preferences/dislikes based on my experience with other bikes to date, the bike meets ALL my expectations. My entire goal, to create a hardtail (as I prefer hardtails, period) that could effectively handle the same intended rides as my FS trailbike (i.e., "all mountain" intent) has been achieved. As such, as much as I love the Sultan and other FS 29er bikes I have owned, given I inherently prefer a hardtail and now with a hardtail that IMHO can be used similarly (to my FS bikes), I dont see using the FS bike much at all. Sure, technical climbs the Sultan will dominate, but from an "overall" perspective, I really nailed what I was looking for.

    Having now 3 rides, with today's being a reasonable ride with decent mileage, I am now certain that my concern of a "slackish" head angle for a 29er hardtail is a moot point as relates to climbs. While climbing both long and/or steep climbs, I felt the HA was perfectly on the threshold for me in terms of just being under the level where any slacker would be a negative...not at ALL an issue and the same goes for its ability to navigate tight switchbacks. With the stem length-top tube combo it is perfect for my needs. And of course being able to SS the bike a la hardtail style is a huge plus. And BOY, with the 2.4 ardents, I was shocked how effectively the bike climbed (while seated) over chunk...the bike felt amazing even when seated which was a very pleasant surprise as I thought originally I would have to attack with momentum on all technical sections...not the case as I thought. The top tube length with the 70mm stem also poses zero issues when standing and climbing with respect to knee-stem/bar interference...dialed perfectly.

    On descents/through techy stuff? Here I am COMPLETELY stoked! As I told 2turnersnotenough (probably a nauseating number of times during the ride today), I am certain that at least on this ride, and most if not all others I do/will do, I would not have been any faster on the Sultan at all. Between the slackish headangle, 120mm travel, somewhat slackish seattube angle, manly tires, the bike was OUTSTANDING on the descent and I am shocked how well it handled things to the extent where I didnt think a hardtail could work so well. My 26er AM bike was entirely badass as well, but not at this level, most likely due to the bigger wheels I am honestly guessing. I am not gonna hypothesize how much the tapered fork and/or how much the flow wheelset and/or how much the wheels and/or any othe component contributes to this sensation - it's rad, period, and I couldnt be happier for my needs. I am unable to quantify how much the tapered fork and/or headtube or any other parts improve things as I have no data to support, though I am happy to asume they sure as hell dont hurt things!

    And since an integral part of the bike, I have to comment how ENTIRELY b!tchin the hammerschmidt is! I am not one who has an issue with front der setups. However, after this experience with the Hammerschmidt, even given its relative weight "disadvantage", I am entirely sold! It is remarkable how much of an advantage it is in a practical sense. When in need of an immediate unexpected shift, it never fails, no matter how much torque etc is in play, not to mention the physical chainline considerations...honestly, i freaking love it and would put one on my Sultan tomorrow if I could. I doubt, unless I simply don't have a choice given the lack of proper ISCG tabs, that I will now ever not run a Hammerschmidt on a geared bike. As for pseudo-singlespeed considerations, which I plan to do as well, a la dinglespeed, that seems a very logical application as well for which I cannot wait to test it out.

    What would I change? At least at this point, I can only think of 2 things. Specifically no need for seattube bottle cage bolts...that was my oversight but fortunately, even uncut, I can still drop the saddle over 4.5" which is fine and secondly, which is pretty much always a potential request for any bike, more rear tire clearance. I really shouldnt complain as I have no problem putting the meaty 2.4 Ardent out back, but I cant run the sliders all the way up front (about half way through slot) but hey, many bikes couldnt even patronize the 2.4 in any regard - the 73mm BB probably helped us at least accomodate it at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FoShizzle
    Having now 3 rides, with today's being a reasonable ride with decent mileage, I am now certain that my concern of a "slackish" head angle for a 29er hardtail is a moot point as relates to climbs.

    And since an integral part of the bike, I have to comment how ENTIRELY b!tchin the hammerschmidt is! I am not one who has an issue with front der setups. However, after this experience with the Hammerschmidt, even given its relative weight "disadvantage", I am entirely sold!.
    Glad you like it. I concur with above, though I am not quite the HS fan you are. It is nice to not ever to have to worry about chain suck on those "right now" downshifts. And yeah, slack bikes climb fine, just different.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enel
    Glad you like it. I concur with above, though I am not quite the HS fan you are. It is nice to not ever to have to worry about chain suck on those "right now" downshifts. And yeah, slack bikes climb fine, just different.
    Thanks Dr E

    your application of the HS is perhaps a bit different so might that be part of it? Part of my stokage is the soon to occur conversion to dinglespeed as well...so i can be like JNC

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    Quote Originally Posted by FoShizzle
    Thanks Dr E

    your application of the HS is perhaps a bit different so might that be part of it? Part of my stokage is the soon to occur conversion to dinglespeed as well...so i can be like JNC
    You will never have the skilz to be like JNC. And your chainstays are too long.

    Finally: Glad you like it. That is the most important thing. That it doesn't bug you when you ride it. If something really bugs me about a bike when I ride it, that thing must be dealt with and or gotten ride of whether component, frame or whatever.
    Quote Originally Posted by buddhak
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enel
    You will never have the skilz to be like JNC. And your chainstays are too long.

    Finally: Glad you like it. That is the most important thing. That it doesn't bug you when you ride it. If something really bugs me about a bike when I ride it, that thing must be dealt with and or gotten ride of whether component, frame or whatever.
    of course not...not you, I, or anybody for that matter has the skillz of JNC

    yeah, i genuinely LOVE the HS and there is nothing about it that bugs me...it entirely rocks but as with anything, I am sure its not for everybody and/or some things about it may bug some folks

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    Bravo Fo! Great writeup.

    I too am a fan of slack HAs. I put my Superfly's fork up to 100mm which makes it pretty slack and it still is no problem on the climbs. It is nice riding a XC bike without a stupid steep HA...never again.

    I am a little surprised that you think the FoSkey decends as well as the Sultan. I couldn't imagine a HT doing it better through the gnarly stuff, but then again I am not the huge HT fan you are and that is probably because I use a FS to compensate for the skills you already have. But to be honest, I friggin' fly through the rocks an that thing.

    Glad to hear you had a great New Years ride on the new bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yogiprophet
    I am a little surprised that you think the FoSkey decends as well as the Sultan. I couldn't imagine a HT doing it better through the gnarly stuff, but then again I am not the huge HT fan you are and that is probably because I use a FS to compensate for the skills you already have. But to be honest, I friggin' fly through the rocks an that thing.
    Thanks

    Didn't mean to imply it will always do as well as the Sultan. What I meant is that from an "overall" persepctive, considering everything encountered across the whole of my rides, to include the inherent PROs of a hardtail for me, the Sultan I doubt will handle what i ride (note I am talking about MY riding) at an incrementally better level to outweigh the new Lynskey's relative pros and cons.

    Sure there will be some sections of some rides where the Sultan will be better suited, to include really fast choppy/rocky DH sections and especially technical climbs, but again, "overall", now with a hardtail now that "can" handle these aforementioned sections just fine, and on many rides as fine or even better in some cases, FOR ME, a solid FS 29er just wont get used as much. I LOVE the Sultan and couldnt imagine a better FS 29er but thats not the point...just sayin that for me, now having a hardtail that can handle all my rides, i see it being my go to bike is all. Now a standard XC 29er hardtail? Not a chance in hell it would or could ever be considered a surrogate for the Sultan...but that's why I also need to have a XC 29er hardtail

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    Quote Originally Posted by FoShizzle
    ...from an "overall" persepctive...
    ...across the whole of my rides...
    ...for me...
    ...note I am talking about MY riding...
    ...relative pros and cons...
    ..."overall"....
    ...FOR ME...
    ...just sayin that for me...
    I think that was enough qualifiers to prove this "review" was totally useless and doesn't apply to any other carbon-based life forms.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tscheezy
    I think that was enough qualifiers to prove this "review" was totally useless and doesn't apply to any other carbon-based life forms.
    go review your snow bikes and besides, you don't even own a 29er as you were too naive to appreciate their benefits. my qualifiers of "me", "my" etc are there to remind and reinforce to the fools who read reviews that they are subjective, whether you want to admit your precious reviews are or not, i.e., worthless for many people. further, I choose not to spend hours deliberating what words to use in my feeble attempt at e-poetry intended to get MTBRetards to gush over my words given clear insecurities "some" people have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FoShizzle
    Thanks

    Didn't mean to imply it will always do as well as the Sultan. What I meant is that from an "overall" persepctive, considering everything encountered across the whole of my rides, to include the inherent PROs of a hardtail for me, the Sultan I doubt will handle what i ride (note I am talking about MY riding) at an incrementally better level to outweigh the new Lynskey's relative pros and cons.

    Sure there will be some sections of some rides where the Sultan will be better suited, to include really fast choppy/rocky DH sections and especially technical climbs, but again, "overall", now with a hardtail now that "can" handle these aforementioned sections just fine, and on many rides as fine or even better in some cases, FOR ME, a solid FS 29er just wont get used as much. I LOVE the Sultan and couldnt imagine a better FS 29er but thats not the point...just sayin that for me, now having a hardtail that can handle all my rides, i see it being my go to bike is all.
    I hear ya man....definitely see your point.



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    ..but that's why I also need to have a XC 29er hardtail
    So, I guess what you are say is the FoSkey is a tad too burly for smoother stuff where a light weight XC bike would be all you need....such as to really climb like mad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FoShizzle
    go review your snow bikes and besides, you don't even own a 29er as you were too naive to appreciate their benefits.
    Dood, snowbikes ARE 29ers. The effective wheel diameters are the same.

    Naive indeed.
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    Fo Bro, all that matters is that you like the bike, if you like it, fock everyone else........

    Just saying though, a Nicolai Helius AC 29er FS will smoke a DW Sultan......
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    Quote Originally Posted by FoShizzle
    Thanks Dr E

    your application of the HS is perhaps a bit different so might that be part of it? Part of my stokage is the soon to occur conversion to dinglespeed as well...
    so i can be like JNC
    I think I know just the amount of fun you're having there Fo, nice one

    And to think JNC's been having slacked out 29er AM fun all this time. Better late than never to join the party though eh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FoShizzle
    **Cliche laden drivel**



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    I think that was enough qualifiers to prove this "review" was totally useless and doesn't apply to any other carbon-based life forms.
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    whatever JNC...you are a tool as well and i no longer yearn to follow in your footsteps - you have been replaced by mtnbiker123

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whafe
    fock everyone else
    I agree with Whafe, thanks Whafe

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    Quote Originally Posted by FoShizzle
    I agree with Whafe, thanks Whafe
    While the weather sucks, I gotta find a better e-ride outlet. Anyways, I am intrigued with the idea of adding a HS to my SS. All the climbing pain, but then I would have overdrive for road, flats, and DH.

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    Nice to see the bike delivers on everything you wanted/expected. I'll take a slack HT over a FS bike 99.9% of the time.

    Anything special about the Chromag parts or just personal preference? I had not heard of them...

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    Quote Originally Posted by [email protected]
    While the weather sucks, I gotta find a better e-ride outlet. Anyways, I am intrigued with the idea of adding a HS to my SS. All the climbing pain, but then I would have overdrive for road, flats, and DH.
    I was thinking about this too. Instead of having a 2nd easy gear for long climbs, add a harder gear for sprinting up to jumps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmw
    I was thinking about this too. Instead of having a 2nd easy gear for long climbs, add a harder gear for sprinting up to jumps.
    Hmmm ... that too. My thinking is that the HS planetary gears (and possible inefficiency) would only be used in cases where you don't care so much. My riding style is 90% xcountry climbing, so this would work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmw
    Nice to see the bike delivers on everything you wanted/expected. I'll take a slack HT over a FS bike 99.9% of the time.

    Anything special about the Chromag parts or just personal preference? I had not heard of them...

    Chromag parts are borderline Neanderthal... The important feature is that they rock Fo's World for where he rides. I can see Fo's point though, you need several bikes in the quiver to select from, based on the type of rides in mind. A HT XC bike that climbs like mad will just allow Fo to get lost faster, farther out. Although, I wonder if fellow E riders have wanted to tell Fo to get lost?

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    If you wanted to keep your normal gear anywhere near 2:1, you'd have to go with a 12T out back (Gusset does make a decent one in CroMo) and run the 24T up front. That would give you a pretty big gear in overdrive (38T:12T).


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    Quote Originally Posted by bmw
    Nice to see the bike delivers on everything you wanted/expected. I'll take a slack HT over a FS bike 99.9% of the time.

    Anything special about the Chromag parts or just personal preference? I had not heard of them...
    thanks

    yeah, I really like Chromag stuff a lot. The owner is also a very cool guy so that means something to me. Their Lynx saddle is my favorite by far and I have now on 2 bikes. Their bars are the perfect length for my liking and are relatively light and their stem is on par in weight with a Thomson X4 but i prefer the looks of it. Chromag is well known for their hardtails and their parts just work for me both in function and form.

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    Admire the courage to put -a lot-of money where your mouth is. And build something so radically different.
    I admit that I had doubts about such a slack HA with a 29 wheel, based on a 69'r bike I put together (just to see what happened). Don't have the exact numbers on that one , but unsafe is it for sure.
    Question is: If you had to do it again, what changes (if any) would you make?
    Again, Great effort!

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    Quote Originally Posted by [email protected]
    While the weather sucks, I gotta find a better e-ride outlet. Anyways, I am intrigued with the idea of adding a HS to my SS. All the climbing pain, but then I would have overdrive for road, flats, and DH.
    yes, the HS is amazing. a dealbreaker issue of course is whether or not your frame is equipped to be able to mount it in the first place. the video Lynksey did (in my signature) discusses this consideration as relates to the need for ISCG tabs.

    perhaps the ONLY thing (and its aesthetic) not crazy about is that given the 1.6:1 ratio it uses between the chainring and higher gear, the net result is at the smallest setting (using the 22t chainring) for the HS high gear is a 35.2t equivalent which for me requires then a pretty big cog out back and it sort of looks goofy when in dinglespeed mode (i.e., using normal 20t out back would result in far too tall of SS-like gearing). But since I look goofy to begin with what the hell

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    That pic of Fo is freakin me out, that can't be real can it?

    I agree with tscheezy! That is the most PC review I've ever read, you have every base covered so no one can rip on you, awesome and worthless at the same time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mvi
    Admire the courage to put -a lot-of money where your mouth is. And build something so radically different.
    I admit that I had doubts about such a slack HA with a 29 wheel, based on a 69'r bike I put together (just to see what happened). Don't have the exact numbers on that one , but unsafe is it for sure.
    Question is: If you had to do it again, what changes (if any) would you make?
    Again, Great effort!
    fair question. though not sure about the 69er you setup...but given the other geometry parameters I went with, yielding a proper BB height, seattube angle, etc, along with the speced head angle, the dimensions are far less an issue than one might think. "Making" a bike have a slack head angle (e.g., 69er based on 26er frame) where you simply dont control for the other parameters can be very misleading (I assume this may be what happened in your case??). The impact that has on the seattube angle and the BB really cant compare to a bike designed with a slacker headangle that also adjusts for these other things IMHO

    i tried to note what i would change below but as usual my threads get derailed and any potential useful info gets lost quickly in the weeds ALL that i noted I would change is to not have the bottle cage mounts on the seattube since that interferes with the seatpost being able to drop all the way. However, since even with teh post uncut I can still drop it 4.5" it is really a non issue for me fortunately. The other thing is that a bit more rear tire clearance would be optimal. I have 2.4 Ardents on there right now so i am stoked but it would be even better if i could run that big tire with the sliders all the way forward, but that wont give me any clearance but i am happy it can fit the 2.4 at all so its really a nitpicky point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rroeder
    That pic of Fo is freakin me out, that can't be real can it?

    I agree with tscheezy! That is the most PC review I've ever read, you have every base covered so no one can rip on you, awesome and worthless at the same time.
    you agreeing with tscheezy helps validate my point...thanks!

    not surprising you are annoyed...i woudlnt expect a hater like you to appreciate that somebody who obsessed about a custom bike build could actually be happy.

    as for the forehead, while the original is still scary and freaky, the JNC version is of course exaggerated. Original attached...and JNC by his act will no longer receive Christmas cards from me, not even a Happy Holiday card!
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    Quote Originally Posted by tscheezy
    I think that was enough qualifiers to prove this "review" was totally useless and doesn't apply to any other carbon-based life forms.
    same could be said for every Fo post

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    Quote Originally Posted by FoShizzle
    JNC by his act will no longer receive Christmas cards from me, not even a Happy Holiday card!
    Okay, now I might cry...

    Anyway how did the BB height you overly obsessed about turn out?
    Quote Originally Posted by buddhak
    And I thought I had a bike obsession. You are at once tragic and awesome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enel
    Okay, now I might cry...

    Anyway how did the BB height you overly obsessed about turn out?
    I have no complaints at all. i would not want it any lower so yeah, pretty stoked

    as for the Christmas card, my apologies...i did not have your address so i couldnt send a card...it will not happen

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    My point was mainly that a bike review is supposed to focus on the bike, not be a catalog of every neuroses that the rider has. Some might enjoy rambling prose covering Fo's likes and dislikes, predilections and hangups (with a mention at the end on how the new scooter figures into this psychological profile- sort of a Ti Rorschach blot), but I would prefer a technical and dispassionate discussion of the bike. There's some good stuff in there, but it takes a careful read pick it out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tscheezy
    My point was mainly that a bike review is supposed to focus on the bike, not be a catalog of every neuroses that the rider has. Some might enjoy rambling prose covering Fo's likes and dislikes, predilections and hangups (with a mention at the end on how the new scooter figures into this psychological profile- sort of a Ti Rorschach blot), but I would prefer a technical and dispassionate discussion of the bike. There's some good stuff in there, but it takes a careful read pick it out.
    not sure what you are talking about, honestly. sorry to break it to you but you dont define nor is there a rule as to what a review entails - its whatever the F somebody wants to waste their time typing as relates to what matter to them, period. the world does not revolve around you i am sorry to say.

    i simply wrote down my impressions, period. i am not going to pontificate about technical aspects of every part that may or may not mean anything to the reader nor do I care to. i was characterizing the bike as it relates to what i was shooting for (geometry, etc). this is a custom bike so thats the relevance to me and since i can write down whatever the F I want, there you have it, i.e., how the bike works for me versus what i had hoped. You may not care, nor do I care if you care, but some people did seem interestd in how the geometry etc. worked for me in this regard. Now go write the last chapter in your precious "How to do a proper bike review" since clearly we could all learn from you. you will also note that I provide no pictures since i prefer to ride the bike, another faux paux apparently when doing stupid e-reviews to impress fellow dungeon and dragon players. Seriously, nobody cares what you think

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    Quote Originally Posted by rroeder
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    exactly! I have learned much from Mikesee and you will notice my wheels borrowed his future hall of famer idea of mixing in a few white spokes. Hope thats ok with tscheezy though i didnt review the technical aspects of how a white spoke may or may not perform against a black spoke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FoShizzle
    exactly! I have learned much from Mikesee and you will notice my wheels borrowed his future hall of famer idea of mixing in a few white spokes. Hope thats ok with tscheezy though i didnt review the technical aspects of how a white spoke may or may not perform against a black spoke.
    whooooooosh, that's the sound of my comment flying over your Fohead

    I think what tscheezy is saying, in a very PC way, is no one cares about you(or your likes/dislikes), we want to hear about your bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rroeder
    whooooooosh, that's the sound of my comment flying over your Fohead

    I think what tscheezy is saying, in a very PC way, is no one cares about you(or your likes/dislikes), we want to hear about your bike.
    uh...actually it didnt. you too are an idiot apparently. what dont you morons understand when i say i like it, i like the geometry, i like how it climbs, i like how it descends, period...thats all thats worth noting really. do you idiots want me to analyze the robustness of the welds? seriously...its embarassing. other people got it.

    you and tscheezy being too stupid to understand that not everybody follows some precious algorithm for bike reviews where you have to bore people with information that cannot be validated anyway, taking lots of pictures to confuse the reader, using big words that your mommy would be proud you used, is fortunately not my issue. If you have any doubts just take a look at the number of views both this thread and my blog get and you will see that you are in the minority due to your sad level of retardation. if you want a "proper" review go read about snowbikes douchebag or better yet, go e-masturbate to some of tscheezy's world famous Interbike reviews where instead of having fun in Vegas he rushed back to the hotel room to he could obsess about what words and pictures woudl impress the lemmings the most.

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    It's OK Fo, I realize it's a hard concept for you to grasp given your ginormous ego, but when you get over the initial anger you will no doubt understand what tscheezy is saying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FoShizzle
    ...you will also note that I provide no pictures...
    That's cool. I'll just wait for the pix in your classified if I want to see the bike.
    My video techniques can be found in this thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rroeder
    It's OK Fo, I realize it's a hard concept for you to grasp given your ginormous ego, but when you get over the initial anger you will no doubt understand what tscheezy is saying.
    Nothing to get over. you simply dont get it, a review is whatever you type, there is no an algorithm that MTBR requires you follow. I understand the context of reviews that tscheezy and others spend their time doing. that's fine, more power to them. I wrote down my thoughts they way i felt like...yeah, real tough to understand. And trust me, you do care what i say or you wouldnt keep coming back so obviously am doing it properly. I look forward to your next review so I too can come across as a mental patient who professes that an opinion on something can actually be wrong as opposed to just being an opinion why dont you do something useful and take a safety break

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    Quote Originally Posted by tscheezy
    That's cool. I'll just wait for the pix in your classified if I want to see the bike.
    now that crossed the line!

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    Is there a copy of the MBA style guide out there on the Internets that we can all use to do a proper PRO Review?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rroeder
    It's OK Fo, I realize it's a hard concept for you to grasp given your ginormous ego, but when you get over the initial anger you will no doubt understand what tscheezy is saying.

    Hah....... this is ground control to Major Foshizzle ! This new Foskey syndrome must be fockin awesome ! TIG.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2TurnersNotEnough
    Is there a copy of the MBA style guide out there on the Internets that we can all use to do a proper PRO Review?
    I'm pretty sure Fo subscribes to the cactuscorn style guide, he doesn't ride and doesn't know WTF he's talking about but that doesn't stop him from spewing his stinky opinion in a pathetic attempt to garner more Ettention(credit to Fo)

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    Quote Originally Posted by rroeder
    I'm pretty sure Fo subscribes to the cactuscorn style guide, he doesn't ride and doesn't know WTF he's talking about but that doesn't stop him from spewing his stinky opinion in a pathetic attempt to garner more Ettention(credit to Fo)
    But like most of us e-riders, he may not know what a good bike is, but he knows what he likes.

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    Yeah I know what he likes too- Ettention!

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    Quote Originally Posted by FoShizzle

    Having now 3 rides
    Having a new bike is nice.

    Having time to ride it is priceless.
    Quote Originally Posted by buddhak
    And I thought I had a bike obsession. You are at once tragic and awesome.

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    I would be very interested in having Tscheezy review this bike...Fo?


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    Quote Originally Posted by 2TurnersNotEnough
    Is there a copy of the MBA style guide out there on the Internets that we can all use to do a proper PRO Review?
    yes good idea. we need an SOP and corresponding template for reviews! would also be good to have peer review prior to publication

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    Quote Originally Posted by jncarpenter
    I would be very interested in having Tscheezy review this bike...Fo?
    agreed, and will get on that as soon as the procore review is complete in New Mexico

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enel
    Having a new bike is nice.

    Having time to ride it is priceless.
    agreed, with number 4 coming tomorrow. the weather is insane right now, near 80 deg for some reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jncarpenter
    I would be very interested in having Tscheezy review this bike.
    I would hate to reveal my naïveté.
    My video techniques can be found in this thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tscheezy
    I would hate to reveal my naïveté.
    actually, that is the key ingredient of robust reviews. though dont hold it against the bike because it has flames blasted on the down and top tubes

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    Quote Originally Posted by FoShizzle
    Nothing to get over. you simply dont get it, a review is whatever you type, there is no an algorithm that MTBR requires you follow. I understand the context of reviews that tscheezy and others spend their time doing. that's fine, more power to them. I wrote down my thoughts they way i felt like...yeah, real tough to understand. And trust me, you do care what i say or you wouldnt keep coming back so obviously am doing it properly. I look forward to your next review so I too can come across as a mental patient who professes that an opinion on something can actually be wrong as opposed to just being an opinion why dont you do something useful and take a safety break
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    All you need to say is " Every other bike doesn't rate" and be done with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeeZee
    Fo'Mann

    All you need to say is " Every other bike doesn't rate" and be done with it.
    good point DeeZee. yes, that is my conclusion based on a very science-based approach to a ride review. I have also decided that since I live within about a 45 minute drive from MBA headquarters I may drop the bike off for them to do a truly robust analysis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FoShizzle
    as for the forehead, while the original is still scary and freaky, the JNC version is of course exaggerated. Original attached...and JNC by his act will no longer receive Christmas cards from me, not even a Happy Holiday card!
    Not at all scary Fo. My GF thinks you're cute...of course she has a thing for a guy with brains.
    BTW, she wonders how scary and insecure JNC must be....

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    FO - have you posted a pic of the bike? I am not enough of a fan of your posts to go through all the posts here to see. That being said, maybe a new thread with pic...

    FWIW, here are a couple of your previous thoughts on posting bike reviews:
    Quote Originally Posted by FoShizzle
    though happy to pontificate on a certain parameter if you would like...just that I feel such pontification (from anybody on mtbr) is generally meaningless as you have never ridden with me so you would have no way of knowing if my subjective feedback has ANY relevance to you, your riding style, and/or terrain. Nevertheless, based on my subjective like and dislikes, riding terrain, skill level (or lack thereof), types and length of rides I do, etc., the bike is 100% spot on in its design to optimize everything for me without sacrificing too much in any one (or more) area
    Quote Originally Posted by FoShizzle
    are you suggesting i cut-and-paste cliches like all the other retards do that post reviews to garner attention? these same retards who wouldnt know one ride characteristic from another it bit them in the ass? the same retards who do a single ride, or maybe two, on their terrain with likely retarded skillz or lack thereof and then have the retard sheep with different lack of skillz talk about how they agree and how much it helps with their decision when they have no clue as to the riders' real experience or knowledge? No, I will just leave it at I love it, best bike i ever had.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rmac
    FO - have you posted a pic of the bike? I am not enough of a fan of your posts to go through all the posts here to see. That being said, maybe a new thread with pic...

    FWIW, here are a couple of your previous thoughts on posting bike reviews:
    There is a video in the first/opening post of this thread. Page two of this thread has pics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rmac
    FO - have you posted a pic of the bike? I am not enough of a fan of your posts to go through all the posts here to see. That being said, maybe a new thread with pic...
    are you telling me you are not willing to sift through 300 posts to find pictures, most of which are from haters? how dare you! By the way, I am also not a fan of my posts.

    yeah, for what it's worth, here is a link to the video Lynskey made, with focus on the Hammerschmidt, with pictures i posted found here

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    Quote Originally Posted by FoShizzle
    are you telling me you are not willing to sift through 300 posts to find pictures, most of which are from haters? how dare you! By the way, I am also not a fan of my posts.

    yeah, for what it's worth, here is a link to the video Lynskey made, with focus on the Hammerschmidt, with pictures i posted found here
    Do you have any pics of your mom?

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    Fo is correct

    Quote Originally Posted by FoShizzle
    not sure what you are talking about, honestly. sorry to break it to you but you dont define nor is there a rule as to what a review entails - its whatever the F somebody wants to waste their time typing as relates to what matter to them, period. the world does not revolve around you i am sorry to say.
    It revolves around me.

    (Though my 7 year old daughter is developing quite a gravitational pull, she believes it revolves around her.)

    But ultimately, the world revolves around Dave. The good news is, Dave loves all of us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeeZee
    Do you have any pics of your mom?
    pretty sure you still have them all

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    Quote Originally Posted by Green Giant
    It revolves around me.

    (Though my 7 year old daughter is developing quite a gravitational pull, she believes it revolves around her.)

    But ultimately, the world revolves around Dave. The good news is, Dave loves all of us.
    I live my life like there is no tomorrow!

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    Quote Originally Posted by FoShizzle
    ...with pictures i posted found here
    Thanks. Very nice, glad you're enjoying it. Clearly a big fan of Chromag but the graphics detract a little from the overall look and feel of the bike (minimalist me...). Probably already been debated at post 1000. Carry on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rmac
    Thanks. Very nice, glad you're enjoying it. Clearly a big fan of Chromag but the graphics detract a little from the overall look and feel of the bike (minimalist me...). Probably already been debated at post 1000. Carry on.
    thanks. i suppose the graphics on the bars may not be for some though other than the Deity Dirty 30, long low riser bars are generally heavier than they need to be whereas the Chromag were very reasonable in weight in case that matters

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    Quote Originally Posted by FoShizzle
    I am so excited! The build is "complete"!

    The folks at Lynskey were phenomenal to deal with in all regards Truly, they were masterful at putting up with my 24/7 OCD which anybody that has had to deal with me can attest is a geniune challenge.

    I insisted the guys at Lynskey ride the bike and put it through the paces on their turf so I am sure they will be able to provide thoughts on the ride shortly which either they or I can post up. I will of course do the same on the West side once I get it but a balanced review across terrain made a lot of sense to me. Hopefully I will have the bike before Christmas

    The chaps at Lynskey were kind enough to send me this link to the debut of the bike and its particularly cool if you are at all considering the Hammerschmidt as it provides some very good insight and pics characterizing what its all about.

    I will provide detailed pics of course once I get and have no doubt it will meet my expectations.

    The parts for those interested are as follows. I do not have a weight of the frame and/or bike but will check with Lynskey in case anybody is interested.

    FRAME --> Mill Finish 29er “AM” Frame w/ tapered headtube, Helix downtube
    CRANKSET --> SRAM Hammerschmidt 175mm
    HEADSET --> Chris King black 1.125 combo 1.5 headset
    FORK --> Tapered 120mm Reba 29er w/ 20mm maxle
    FRONT SHIFTER --> SRAM X9 Hammerschmidt shifter
    FRONT TIRE --> Maxxis 29er Ardent 2.4
    REAR TIRE --> Maxxis 29er Ardent 2.4
    CASSETTE --> Jeff Jones modified XT 6-speed cassette to fit on King SS rear hub
    BRAKES --> Formula “The One” brakes, w/ adapters and 180mm rotors
    PEDALS --> XTR
    SHIFTER HOUSING --> Jagwire Switch Titanium colored cable and housing
    GRIPS --> Deity lock ons w/ white locks
    WHEELS --> Chris King Pewter hubs laced to Flow 29ers. Front hub 20mm, rear SS hub. Dt comp spokes
    REAR SHIFTER POD --> Shimano XTR shifter
    BARS --> Chromag OS 730mm black low riser bars
    STEM --> Chromag 70mm black Ranger stem
    SADDLE --> Chromag Lynx (black/white) Ti rail saddle
    SEATPOST CLAMP --> Chromag Pewter seatpost collar , 35mm
    SEATPOST --> Chromag Minimalist 400mm length x 30mm
    CHAIN --> SRAM PC991
    REAR DER --> Shimano XTR non-shadow M971

    Literally the ONLY things I will be doing to the bike once received, based entirely on aesthetic reasons of course, are to replace the horrible stock REBA stickers and replace the non-matching black Formula brake housing with steel braided HEL performance lines to match the shifter housing on there now.

    Thanks again to Lynskey to the folks at Lynskey and thanks to Larry Mettler for the killer parts as well

    edit: package included on Lynskey website here

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    It figures that you are affiliated with Mettler, how's the cohabitation thing working out for both of you?

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    good balance
    wherever you go, there you are

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    Quote Originally Posted by MessagefromTate
    It figures that you are affiliated with Mettler, how's the cohabitation thing working out for both of you?
    i have no idea what that means

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    Just curious. . .

    Quote Originally Posted by FoShizzle
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    Just curious - Never seen a white crown on a Reba fork before. Is that custom?

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    Quote Originally Posted by yeahdog31
    Just curious - Never seen a white crown on a Reba fork before. Is that custom?
    you mean like this one?

    http://www.pricepoint.com/detail/203...shLoc-2010.htm

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    Quote Originally Posted by cruso414
    Hah! I guess I just hadn't looked.

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    Just read this thread Fo, nice build! As long as it does what it needs to do for you,thats al that matters. I dig the Hammer's

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    Quote Originally Posted by Billy B
    Just read this thread Fo, nice build! As long as it does what it needs to do for you,thats al that matters. I dig the Hammer's
    It's already for sale!

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    Quote Originally Posted by None
    It's already for sale!
    What???? No Way?!?!?!?

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    Quote Originally Posted by yeahdog31
    Just curious - Never seen a white crown on a Reba fork before. Is that custom?
    that's a good point. It wasnt until yesterday, when i was looking at my Sultan, also with a white Reba, that I noticed what you say - my Sultan's white REBA has a black crown.

    I honestly dunno...maybe the white tapered versions have a white crown? EDIT: just saw cruso414's post. maybe its just that the 2010s come that way<SCRIPT type=***************> vbmenu_register("postmenu_6590284", true); </SCRIPT>

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    Quote Originally Posted by None
    It's already for sale!
    very NOT true.

    though in theory, EVERYTHING is for sale at some price having said that, definitely not...I am not nor do i have any intention of selling it. While i sit hear wishing i was riding I did however take off rear part of drivetrain (i.e., 6-spd cassette, rear der, rear shifter pod) and ordered a cog and chain to convert it to a dinglespeed for when i get back in the saddle. in the meantime, the aforemention 6 speed setup resides on Barney the DinoSultan so its getting some use at least.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FoShizzle
    the aforemention 6 speed setup resides on Barney the DinoSultan so its getting some use at least.
    Yes, I saw Aqua riding it in the mud and snow. Cassette should be in great shape when he returns it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duzitall
    Yes, I saw Aqua riding it in the mud and snow. Cassette should be in great shape when he returns it.
    yeah...he is trustworthy no doubt. he also promised to not hit any rocks with the rear der and i am sure he will keep that promise

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    Well, at least it's being ridden. So many of Fo's bike parts get E ridden only to pose in front of the camera nude or in some kinky position. Do Bike Pr0n directors get paid well, Fo?

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