I'm scared

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  • 01-30-2010
    AJT
    I'm scared
    Having recently discovered bigger wheels, i decided to embrace them fully and sell my blinged out 26" fully and get myself on the waiting list for a wolfhound.

    Now i've got a salsa el mariarchi (rigid) which has fueled my big wheel love and my wolfhound will be rigid, I think of myself as a handy rider who can still hold his own with the LT2's and hecklers in my local riding pack (on my salsa)

    I suppose i'm getting the hebbie jebbies about rebeling against technogly, and just getting back to riding bicycles.

    The terrain here in the highlands of Scotland is pretty gnar in places so i would just like some forum love and reasurance that riding gnar on a fully(rigid) is happening out there?

    Pics please
  • 01-30-2010
    CaveGiant
    I have been overtaken by a few singlespeeding rigid 29ers in Scotland going up hills.
    Never saw them on the technical downhills though, so either they were even faster or took the easy way down.

    It is never to late to fit a squish fork to a 29er.
  • 01-30-2010
    LyNx
    Got to DITTO here with CG, adding a nice FS 29er to the stable would be a nice thing. I can't say I ahve the courage you do to ride the rigid a whole lot on trails, but when I do it's definitely a different ride and fun, but most times I stick with the FS and let it take the beating instead me ;)

    But yeah, big wheels are fun, bicycles are fun, just go ride whatever and have fun :thumbsup: but if you're on the "upswing" age wise, then don't let your body get too beat up and stop your enjoyment ;)

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by CaveGiant
    I have been overtaken by a few singlespeeding rigid 29ers in Scotland going up hills.
    Never saw them on the technical downhills though, so either they were even faster or took the easy way down.

    It is never to late to fit a squish fork to a 29er.

  • 01-30-2010
    Blazerwolf
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    AJ if your scared you shouldn't be riding! Hell I'm 62 years old and just got back on a bicycle after 47 years and had I been scared I would still weigh 280 lbs. Go for it kid!

    BTW I ride a Monocog 29er Single Speed! 40+ lbs of Hardtail, hard everything! Geared 32/16 with Schwalbe Big Apples.

    No off roading though at my age! Lost 60 lbs from May to Christmas on that beast!
  • 01-30-2010
    syl3
    You can ride rigid on gnar, i finished the hardest marathon in my country on a rigid 29er... but at the end of 10 hard hours, i wish i hadn't tried.

    So i guess it depends if you can take it and if you'll enjoy it more (no point in abusing yourself if there's no fun coming out of it). But whenever you jump back on a squishy bike, you'll see that it made you a better rider.
  • 01-30-2010
    ionsmuse
    I've ridden some reasonably gnarly stuff on my rigid bikes, going all the way back four years, as pictured here:

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    Jedi in Flagstaff on my rigid Gunnar 26er. Riding it two years later on a 29er fully, I did it faster and smoother, but only cleaned a few more moves (and there are a few sections I don't think I'll ever seriously attempt).

    <a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/WjCZwHP5ez9oO7WQ4_C0JQ?authkey=Gv1sRgCKXl9cii_rnfZ w&feat=embedwebsite"><img src="https://lh5.ggpht.com/_A06QdYL6xw8/Rj6JUSr9E1I/AAAAAAAAAXg/cqFbkjKI-7c/s800/HPIM0335.JPG" /></a>

    This was my Karate Monkey as it was in 2007. I rode the 90+ mile Rim Ride Moab race, and the 142 mile Kokopelli Trail race, on it. Both have some seriously rough terrain, and RRM hits some of the more technical trails in the area. After the KTR, I bought a used Reba from a friend, not so much to make riding tough stuff easier (thought that too), but too take the sting out of 12+ hour rides. I was worried about permanent nerve damage in my hands. A justified worry, though I think the Midge bars were just as culpable as the rigid fork.

    Soon after that I got my Leviathan:

    <a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/DD-uXDWQL678kPjmwIUkuA?authkey=Gv1sRgCKXl9cii_rnfZw&f eat=embedwebsite"><img src="https://lh6.ggpht.com/_A06QdYL6xw8/Rp7Cs_qIRhI/AAAAAAAAAqU/-zHLojw0eZI/s800/HPIM0703.JPG" /></a>

    It's never looked so clean since. Love it.

    I also continued, and continue to, ride the rigid monkey on tough stuff.

    <a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/EZM9zfs0SsBBh3ni8rLdaQ?feat=embedwebsite"><img src="https://lh3.ggpht.com/_A06QdYL6xw8/STGdy5oSmlI/AAAAAAAAEZw/0zl-32RBHMk/s800/5_mocap.jpg" /></a>

    That's a rad photo Bear took on a great ride in Sedona in December of 2007. Shown is a not especially difficult section of trail, but on that day (between ten zillion flats) we road the north side of Airport Mesa and Damifino, both "double black diamond" trails according to local consensus. I've ridden both since, on the Leviathan and the Monkey with a Reba, and never topped the performance I had that day on the rigid.

    Point being, you can ride some sick stuff on a rigid bike. It will beat you up, and depending on your goals and volume of riding that could be problematic. You will be riding slower, especially on chunky but not too chunky stuttery stuff, where suspension can let you plow right through.

    As for a fork versus full suspension, I think that comfort over the long haul is one benefit. Another is big hucks, super-chunk, and so forth. But I'm not qualified to comment on very technical riding. But on 12+ hour days a good full suspension bike is invaluable. I still ride 12+ hour days on the rigid, but I ride them much more often on my Leviathan.

    On the other hand, I've hand my best technical days riding (descending Moore Fun eastbound with three dabs, holding Fred Wilkinson's wheel down 403 in Crested Butte) on the Monkey with a 100mm Reba.

    In short, I'd get the wolfhound, and I'd get it built for a suspension corrected fork. Then you'll have options.
  • 01-30-2010
    Bluebeat007
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    Wolfhound for sure...love mine!!!!
  • 01-31-2010
    Fleas
    Rigid works for everything - sometimes you may have to slow down a bit, but it still works.







    Don't be scared!
    -F
  • 01-31-2010
    hallowedpoint
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Blazerwolf
    AJ if your scared you shouldn't be riding! Hell I'm 62 years old and just got back on a bicycle after 47 years and had I been scared I would still weigh 280 lbs. Go for it kid!

    BTW I ride a Monocog 29er Single Speed! 40+ lbs of Hardtail, hard everything! Geared 32/16 with Schwalbe Big Apples.

    No off roading though at my age! Lost 60 lbs from May to Christmas on that beast!

    40+ lbs:eek: Is that a 10 lb stem you got there? Or is it a 5 lb stem and the seat is the other 5.
  • 01-31-2010
    opposed
    What fleas said.Too, I got tired of the complexity of geared/fs bikes and went rigid- first 26" then 29". I will never go back. You can run the gnarly stuff too, it's just that your line selection is more critical than guys with suspension who can just bomb stuff. Even if you need to slow down a tiny bit on the really rough stuff, the rewards of a SS 29 rigid are many and well worth the occasional slowing down........... cheers
  • 01-31-2010
    ECOdork
    Ditto what the others said.
    Don't be scared but ease into it until you learn what you and your new bike can handle. It's kinda like learning how to ride with clipless pedals for the first time again. Don't seek out the toughest stuff on your first few rides. Things like line choice and proper riding technique are critical. All that said, I was really surprised at what I could do on a rigid, SS, 29er once I got the hang of it and developed the power and endurance. I did eventually put front squish on it but it took me 2 years to get around to it.