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    IF 29'ers anyone?

    Anyone here have a Independent Fabrication 29'er? Ran a search but it didn't yield much.

    Love to see some pics or hear some feedback. I ordered mine yesterday. The custom process is really cool. Now comes the bad part. Having to wait.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Go Kart Motzart
    Anyone here have a Independent Fabrication 29'er? Ran a search but it didn't yield much.

    Love to see some pics or hear some feedback. I ordered mine yesterday. The custom process is really cool. Now comes the bad part. Having to wait.

    I recently bought a PISSOFF (made by IF) as a custom 29er SS setup for wedding presents with the wife (she went 26) I LOVE this bike as it's custom and fits like a glove. I can try to send pics later but you can find a pic or two in a Phil wood thread as they posted the pics on this site. I had to wait a bit but well worth the final results. I'm 6'8" so the tubing and everything has been dialed in perfectly...my only regret is not being able to afford a geared 29er at the moment to match my PISSOFF. You will not be sorry as these guys make some of the best frames...plus they ride the East Coast terrain and these bikes can handle the nastiest rack infested rooty trail possible without a problem. Nothing bad to say about just wait and be happy.

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    don't own one

    but I wandered into my LBS a couple weeks back and they had an IF SS 29er hanging from the rafters. It was beautiful, one of the nicest looking bikes I've seen in person.
    I'm sure the wait will be well worth it.

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    <------ only had to wait 4 weeks. I really like the way it ride. If I had known how much I like riding a non-suspension fork, I would of opted for the non-suspension corrected geometry, and an IF fork...
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    I've got one. I am very happy with it. I ride it all the time. I got it built singlespeed with EBB and suspension corrected fork geometry, in their "intense blue pearl" color. I ran a karate monkey fork through August, when I put a Reba on it. I like the Reba, but I miss the rigid and I am awaiting a new rigid fork from Vicious.

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    Just running out the door...

    but wanted to post a quick reply. I picked up a near new 29r frame off Eb a while back and it has proved to be everything I have hoped for and more. Mine is built with an EBB, disk only rear, and a derailleur hanger. I originally set it up as a 1x9, but built up a set of SS wheels shortly after. While it wasn't built for me it fits like a gloves, and has a intuitive, supple ride and has proved to be the bike of choice for just about all situations.
    I also have a geared 29r that I use for road trips, but the Indy is the one I always reach for. I'll be back in town in a few days and will follow up with some other observations.


    I think you will be very happy with your choice.


    Quote Originally Posted by Go Kart Motzart
    Anyone here have a Independent Fabrication 29'er? Ran a search but it didn't yield much.

    Love to see some pics or hear some feedback. I ordered mine yesterday. The custom process is really cool. Now comes the bad part. Having to wait.
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    Yup...

    Quote Originally Posted by Go Kart Motzart
    Anyone here have a Independent Fabrication 29'er?

    Yup! This is IF 29"er #1. I love this bike...since this bike was the guinea pig and the first one built, it has some small issues like rear tire clearance (I'll never fit anything bigger than a 2.1" in the rear) but other than that it has been an amazing bike.

    Good choice, you will be very happy.

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    Of course you are familiar with this bike Go-Kart but today was the first time I saw it with the new fork.
    It is super sweet.
    Beets the crap out of that old Winwood fork that was on it.
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    Good job! Sweet Hay-suse!

    Quote Originally Posted by Endomaniac
    Of course you are familiar with this bike Go-Kart but today was the first time I saw it with the new fork.
    It is super sweet.
    Beets the crap out of that old Winwood fork that was on it.
    Next time, warn us that you are posting bike porn... Some of us are at work!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Endomaniac
    Of course you are familiar with this bike Go-Kart but today was the first time I saw it with the new fork.
    It is super sweet.
    Beets the crap out of that old Winwood fork that was on it.
    Nice. I had heard tell the mythical IF lefty, but had not made it by the shop since it had been completed.

    I need one too, but I'll let Bob ride his for a while and make sure it's sorted out. If it holds up to him it should work for anyone.

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    gallery under hardtail XC if



    I have been very happy with mine. It now sports a Jones H bar and I could not be happier

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    Oh brother, another IF!

    Here is my brother's custom IF Steel Deluxe. He has been riding it since 2003.

    The opportunity to go custom fell into to his lap when IF offered an outstanding bike shop employee program. It made me sick, so I will not tell you the deal he received.

    Here is the spec list:

    -Sram XO drivetrain with 9.0 front derailleur
    -Thompson post
    -Snake skin Flite SLR
    -Bontrager X Lite stem with XXX Lite carbon bar
    -King headset
    -Truvativ Stylo GXP crankset
    -Marz Marathon fork
    -Sram 9.0sl brake levers with Avid BB7 disc brakes
    -WTB LaserLite disc hubs with Salsa Delgado rims
    -Maxxis Ignitors replaced the Bonty ACX tires
    -Nice sparly blue paint!!

    Take a look at the pic. It is from this summer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cjsbike
    Here is my brother's custom IF Steel Deluxe. He has been riding it since 2003.

    The opportunity to go custom fell into to his lap when IF offered an outstanding bike shop employee program. It made me sick, so I will not tell you the deal he received.

    Here is the spec list:

    -Sram XO drivetrain with 9.0 front derailleur
    -Thompson post
    -Snake skin Flite SLR
    -Bontrager X Lite stem with XXX Lite carbon bar
    -King headset
    -Truvativ Stylo GXP crankset
    -Marz Marathon fork
    -Sram 9.0sl brake levers with Avid BB7 disc brakes
    -WTB LaserLite disc hubs with Salsa Delgado rims
    -Maxxis Ignitors replaced the Bonty ACX tires
    -Nice sparly blue paint!!

    Take a look at the pic. It is from this summer.

    ----Chad
    I rode a friend's while in Utah this fall. It was the most perfect feeling bike I have ever ridden. It is an I.F. ti, and was dressed pretty well. It inspired confidence, especially descending. Simply an amazing bike. If I had not already put money down on a Dean XLite 29er I would would have ordered one that day. I still have trouble shaking the memory of that day, knowing that the most perfect bike I had ever sit upon would never be mine, as this guy never sells his custom ti frames. Damn

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    How much longer till you get your Dean?

    Quote Originally Posted by OrBikbldr
    I rode a friend's while in Utah this fall. It was the most perfect feeling bike I have ever ridden. It is an I.F. ti, and was dressed pretty well. It inspired confidence, especially descending. Simply an amazing bike. If I had not already put money down on a Dean XLite 29er I would would have ordered one that day. I still have trouble shaking the memory of that day, knowing that the most perfect bike I had ever sit upon would never be mine, as this guy never sells his custom ti frames. Damn

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    All things being equal (fit, geometry, tubing etc), IF doesn't have some secret sauce that makes them a better feeling bike than others, do they. I hope to hear an answer of "no" to my question because on my desk at work, I have a completed order form for both Vulture and Curtlo, one of which will be sent in next week with a deposit. I am leaning towards the Curtlo because I prefer the Bushnell BB and those nice curved seatstays.

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    GC, since there's been a lot of talk lately about wait times, curious the leadtime you were quoted, price you're paying, color you're choosing, steel or Ti, and the sizes/geometry...

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    IF Ti 29

    Had this a bit over a year now, great ride.

    Great experience with IF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigdrunk
    How much longer till you get your Dean?

    Beats the hell out of me. It was supposedly welded the end of last week. If it makes it by the end of November it will have been 2 3/4 months. I was promised 5-7 weeks. No big deal I knew about the delays when I ordered. The savings was pretty incredible for a US made butted ti frame. I had it done custom and I think the total will be either 1650 or 1700. John is cutting me a sweet deal on a cross frame too when I am ready.

    I just hope that it rides sweet. I hope the welds are beautiful. I hope that the frame weighs in under 3.5 lbs. (I was promised sub 3 lbs but I am not holding my breath)
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigdrunk
    All things being equal (fit, geometry, tubing etc), IF doesn't have some secret sauce that makes them a better feeling bike than others, do they. I hope to hear an answer of "no" to my question because on my desk at work, I have a completed order form for both Vulture and Curtlo, one of which will be sent in next week with a deposit. I am leaning towards the Curtlo because I prefer the Bushnell BB and those nice curved seatstays.

    By the way, good choice on the curtlo. I have had several of them. All have ridden very well. The best frame I have ever OWNED (the I.F. 29er rode better) was my 29er curtlo which I stupidly sold this summer, to drum up cash for the Dean XLite 29er. I should have just kept it. My present curtlos are a road frame and a single speed 26er, that I am restoring.

    I would go with Doug over Vulture unless you really love their paint jobs. You can alway have the Curtlo painted all fancy too and still come out cheaper. Banana stays rule. I have had them on most of my curtlos. Frankly, I love Doug because he has been around forever but doesn't act like he knows it all. Doug has a huge amount of fit experience. I am not sure about Vulture because I have never thought seriously about them. If you are looking at Northwest frame builders (Curtlo in WA, and Vulture in Bend) you might also look up Desalvo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mojo2396
    Had this a bit over a year now, great ride.

    Great experience with IF.

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    Um...WOW!

    Did I miss the "big post" on this bike.

    Give us some details man. The first picture makes it kind of look like a 26/29, but by some of the other bikes you have posted (Retrotec and Vicious right?) I would think you are sold on the big wheels.

    What else you got hiding in that stable of yours?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lanpope
    Um...WOW!

    Did I miss the "big post" on this bike.

    Give us some details man. The first picture makes it kind of look like a 26/29, but by some of the other bikes you have posted (Retrotec and Vicious right?) I would think you are sold on the big wheels.

    What else you got hiding in that stable of yours?

    LP
    Last Summer/Fall or so I posted those old photos.
    Bike currently has XO, square taper RF Turbine cranks, Mary's, King x 3 and Avid Ultimates.

    29er's currently; Ti IF, Inglis geared, Retrotec ss and most recently a Matt Chester
    Stock Vicious Motivator tt was a bit short for me so it went, a Monkey called my garage home for a bit too, also gone.
    Only a couple of 26in bikes remain, both Ibis: Ti Mojo and limited named singlespeed, but neither get ridden much, post 29.

    All for now, but should a Willits present itself, well, I can't really say what I would do, bit I have a good idea what my wife would say.

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    Mine Is In The Process of Being Born!!!

    This is Piss Off #35"a". The "a" is because there will only ever be 2 #35s and the one I have was originally built for Neville and can be seen assembled with Midge bars on the Piss Off thread on the SS site. Neville is having another one built and it will also be #35 as well to commemorate Phil Wood's 35th anniversary.

    I should have this beauty built up within the next week and can hardly stand waiting for the rest of the parts to show up. I'll post some more pics as I continue through the process and a review when I'm done and have some saddle time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mojo2396
    Last Summer/Fall or so I posted those old photos.
    Bike currently has XO, square taper RF Turbine cranks, Mary's, King x 3 and Avid Ultimates.

    29er's currently; Ti IF, Inglis geared, Retrotec ss and most recently a Matt Chester
    Stock Vicious Motivator tt was a bit short for me so it went, a Monkey called my garage home for a bit too, also gone.
    Only a couple of 26in bikes remain, both Ibis: Ti Mojo and limited named singlespeed, but neither get ridden much, post 29.

    All for now, but should a Willits present itself, well, I can't really say what I would do, bit I have a good idea what my wife would say.
    Very nice...I think we have similar tastes! I'm seriously considering an Inglis/Retrotec for my geared 29"er bike. Sold off a too-small geared IF 29er and have been riding the Monkey SS while I shop.

    You have any pics of the geared Inglis? Thoughts on the builder?

    Re: the Willits - you did see this didn't you?
    http://classifieds.mtbr.com/cgi-bin/...exact_match=on

    I had to exercise some serious restraint when Bigwheel posted it up. I think it would be a touch too small for me though. (tell you wife I said I'm sorry for showing you )

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    Quote Originally Posted by lanpope
    Very nice...I think we have similar tastes! I'm seriously considering an Inglis/Retrotec for my geared 29"er bike. Sold off a too-small geared IF 29er and have been riding the Monkey SS while I shop.

    You have any pics of the geared Inglis? Thoughts on the builder?



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    Custom builder forum a week or so ago...
    http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?t=143847

    Great dealing with Curtis.
    The Retrotec saw 90% of my riding time before the MC arrived.
    As straight now as it was in September 2002, great ride.


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    a local guy here rides an IF ti 29er with pink decals. it has EBB and der hanger. he says he has limited rear tire clearance, but he got it a year or 2 ago, so they might have addressed that.

    of course, it's a sweet bike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jh_on_the_cape
    a local guy here rides an IF ti 29er with pink decals. it has EBB and der hanger. he says he has limited rear tire clearance, but he got it a year or 2 ago, so they might have addressed that.

    of course, it's a sweet bike.

    The one I rode had plenty of tire clearance, the stays were bent out of the way nicely. It had more clearance than my Niner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jh_on_the_cape
    a local guy here rides an IF ti 29er with pink decals. it has EBB and der hanger. he says he has limited rear tire clearance, but he got it a year or 2 ago, so they might have addressed that.

    of course, it's a sweet bike.
    A yokel rides this chi-chi painted Ti 29er IF, and it too has very limited rear tire clearance between the chainstays. He's using a Nano right now, and it looks pretty close. Both sets of stays are very stout, so I'm guessing there's no wag back there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OrBikbldr
    The one I rode had plenty of tire clearance, the stays were bent out of the way nicely. It had more clearance than my Niner.
    Thats good to hear.

    Thanks to everyone for their input and pics. It's good to hear everyone likes theirs so well. It was real close between a Seven steel and an IF, but I felt like IF had more experience with big wheels.

    Like I said before the wait is gonna kill me.

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    Tire clearance issues here too.
    IF is being GREAT about it, fixing me right up

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    How's that?

    I hope clearence won't be an issue. I would rather the chainstays be a bit long than have limited clearance.

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    Just make sure to tell them exactly what tire you want to run. Hopefully they'll address it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Go Kart Motzart
    How's that?

    I hope clearence won't be an issue. I would rather the chainstays be a bit long than have limited clearance.
    Don't worry about the clearance, they know what they are doing. The original designs were around the nano, I'm running exi's with no problems.



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    Quote Originally Posted by jl
    Don't worry about the clearance, they know what they are doing. The original designs were around the nano, I'm running exi's with no problems.



    3 weeks from order to door for me last January.

    That really is a nice bike JL... mind you, I haven't seen an IF I didn't like!
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    Here are a few from The Bike Lane in Burke, VA. These guys have built up quite a few like these in the last six months, all with cool paint jobs (though the "ghost flames" on the red bike are hard to see in the pic). Enjoy. I am not, in any way, affiliated with the shop, though they are all really cool people.
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    Big Pink

    Here's my winter commuter. Just have it set up as simple as I can... The snow and glop are on the way...
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    Go here and you can see a couple of pictures of my IF 29er in both SS and geared mode (middle row, right hand side). It looks a little different now (Hope discs, Reba shock) and I'll post some new pics as soon as I can take some. Lots of other 29ers in the ifrider.com register (geared and single) as well, so browse around. Fantastic bike, just love it.

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    Another IF 29er. Custom paint, to match the bumper of a 1984 Mazda. S&S couplers. Also from the Bike Lane in Burke, VA. Todd is a stand up guy. Ordered on 3/17/2005 and delivered on 5/3/2005. Todd and his crew built it up that night so I could fly it out to Fruita the next day. Absolutely love'n it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kgwisdek
    Here's my winter commuter. Just have it set up as simple as I can... The snow and glop are on the way...


    I love the pink. Just trying to get the perspective on the frame size, is it a 26er or 29er. If it is a 29er that is one big ol' head tube.

    I wish I had a commuter like that

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    Quote Originally Posted by AllRounder
    Another IF 29er. Custom paint, to match the bumper of a 1984 Mazda. S&S couplers. Also from the Bike Lane in Burke, VA. Todd is a stand up guy. Ordered on 3/17/2005 and delivered on 5/3/2005. Todd and his crew built it up that night so I could fly it out to Fruita the next day. Absolutely love'n it.
    I have ridden this bike (if only for a little while), and it is one nice peice of work. It made me want to get S&S couplers on my next frame, just in case I want to go to Fruita some time.

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    anyone know what size the seatpin on the new if's is? is it like the sevens and all one size? especially interested in ti tay knee um
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    Quote Originally Posted by dRjOn
    anyone know what size the seatpin on the new if's is? is it like the sevens and all one size? especially interested in ti tay knee um
    29.4 mm

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    wow, really? looked kind of thinner on the ti ones.... hmmm. cheers...
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    a good friend of mine has a ti 26er and it takes a 27.2 due to the use of some synthetic insert bonded to the inside of the seat tube (it is part of the tube not just a shim). My steel IF 29er uses a 29.4 as stated above.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OrBikbldr
    I love the pink. Just trying to get the perspective on the frame size, is it a 26er or 29er. If it is a 29er that is one big ol' head tube.

    I wish I had a commuter like that
    29er. I'm 6'5". Funny, no? It's proportional. Just need some fenders, and I'll be golden.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kgwisdek
    Nice!! My cousin had the same bike (much smaller though). 1st time I rode with him he pulls out a pink SS rigid bike. He stomped me all the way around on that damn thing!!!

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    19.5" - 29er Ti-Deluxe, SS- sexed out ot 23-lbs

    I'm about 230-lbs and this bike is screaming sexy! I rode it for about a month, then I decided to return it to IF to get the Chain-Stay Width Maxed out to easily support a 29x2.3" tire (Kudos to The Bike Lane, Burke, Virginia!). Make sure to emphasize this detail if custom ordering- granted, I think they are fatting out the stays as standard for the 29ers.

    I'm now sporting a Jeff-Jones bar and they are a relevation- too awesome, granted a safe rule of thumb is add 20-mm to your standard stem length for the J-Jones to feel money.

    The only detail I specifically spec'd on the frame is a 71.5 HT Angle- I think IF uses 70.5 unless otherwise noted. I almost feel 72-degrees would be nicer- the big wheels allow for steep HT angles w/ nice habits.

    I was floored when I first weighed this rig built up- apx 23-lbs per my 50' fish scale. Ride qualities- purfect!

    Specs:

    Jeff Jones H-Bars (da wide ones)
    Avid Ultimate Brake Levers
    Avid Mechanical Discs F/R
    Avid Flak Jacket Cables
    Thomson 140-mm Stem
    Thomasn 410-mm Seat Post
    WTB Pure Saddle
    Race Face Deus XC Cranks (already lost the crank bolt cap- ack)
    Chris King Headset (what else?)
    Chirs King SS Hubs (holy moly these rock!)
    Salsa Delgado Rims (light & strong- I be a fatty and they've been holding up well)
    Bontrager XRs F/R
    3/4 Pearl Orange
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    Quote Originally Posted by somms
    I've got one. I am very happy with it. I ride it all the time. I got it built singlespeed with EBB and suspension corrected fork geometry, in their "intense blue pearl" color. I ran a karate monkey fork through August, when I put a Reba on it. I like the Reba, but I miss the rigid and I am awaiting a new rigid fork from Vicious.

    here we are:



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    Register them 29ers

    Calling IF Owners

    I'd be great to see a few of the fine IF's in this post registered up with the Owners' Club!

    www.ifrider.com

    All the best

    Cris Bloomfield
    Independent Fabrication Owners' Club

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