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    help build a sl xc/trail

    Ok guys, my beloved camber (120mm f/r) needs replacing. my goal is to build an awesome lightweight xc/trail bike. I need help finding a suitable frame, i have a brand new 2020 fox factory 34 sc that id like to use upfront, i also have a very new set of Duke racing 28/25.6 mm id carbon rims laced up on carbon ti hubs so a boost frame is a must. rear travel should be 120mm (my old bones need a little more cush than a 100 gives). so far iíve found (1)INTENSE SNIPER TR, Pros; 120 f/r, light, meets most of my requirements. Cons: ht angle 66.5 seems really slack, no internal cable routing for remote lockout, reviews are mixed frame has a really soft and flexible rear triangle that some find annoying. (2) 2020 TREK TOP FUEL pros: its a trek! it has internal cable routing its got great geo, Cons: 115 rear travel (ok) weight frameset appears to be significantly heavier than the sniper or Orbea oiz. (3) 2020 ORBEA OIZ, (my favorite so far) pros; super light, stiff iíline cable routing meets all my requirements. Cons: ht angle is a little steep at 68, orbea does not sell a frame only so i have to buy a complete bike and sell all the takeoffs.
    Have i missed any light weight 120mm frames with modern geo? all comments and suggestions are appreciated.

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    2020 Kona Hei Hei is 120/120 with two bottles in main frame. Weight TBD, geo TBD.

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    thanks for the responses! looks like the hei hei is too far out time wise, anyone find the weight on the norco? built bike seems heavy, havent come across a frame only weight yet.

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    Intense has addressed the flex in the rear. If you can wait an updated Trail (120MM) rear triangle is coming out in Nov/Dec.

    Not sure how no internal routing for a lock out shock that isn't on the bike is a negative.

    As far as the Trek- I would suggest riding a steep seat tube angle bike before buying. Did not like the Ripley V4 I bought. It also has that stupid knockback headset.

    Orbea does sell frame only, but it's pricey like the Trek
    https://www.orbea.com/us-en/bicycles...omr-il-dps-r-k $3499
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    Quantify what you believe to be "lightweight"?
    Would suggest the GG Trail Pistol(a) but may be a bit more portly than you want.

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    great info thanks, waiting on the new rear triangle may be an option, i really like having a remote lockout on my handlebar so the frame not having either internal or external cable routing is still a concern intense says that some of their riders use a glue on cable guide. For 2020 Orbea is only selling their "frame only" in small 27.5 (yeah i dont understand that one either). If i go the trek route ill definitely check out the steep seat tube angle. As far as weight my goal is a sub 23lbs bike ready to ride (not sure if i can make it) not willing to sacrifice quality for a few grams. sniper frame with fox shock in med. 2186 gr according to intense. ORBEA OIZ Claims 1790 gr i believe thats without the shock.

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    So you're going to buy a frame and replace the shock? That's the only way you're getting a remote lock out on a Sniper.
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    according to the guy i spoke to at intense, fox offers a lockout kit for that shock, but i will definitely confirm that with fox.
    Do you believe that to be incorrect?

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    i'm really leaning towards buying an oiz tr. and selling off all the stock components that i dont want to use. i was just trying to avoid the additional work and putting out the cash up front.

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    Oiz Trail will be a nice bike.

    I'm gonna ask the dumb question but WHY do you want such a light bike?
    If you are a XC racer where the grams can matter in the end, I can see that but your above statement about not sacrificing quality for a few grams makes me believe otherwise. I don't remember the Camber ever being a light bike but then again I never rode one and my current bike is a portly 37lbs. However, don't let that fool you, but just built up an all carbon Trail Pistola and he came in at just over 30lbs and I had no problem keeping up with him. Maybe on those REALLY long days would I notice the weight difference and whatnot but I am gonna be tired on those days regardless so a few grams ain't gonna change how I ride.

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    New Ibis Ripley should meet and surpass all of your goals.
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    Intense is a fun bike but you indicated you wanted it a little plusher, and this frame just isn't that. Very efficient, but not super comfortable suspension.

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    Spot Ryve is another with a 115 rear.

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