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    Giant enters the fray!!!

    Giant Bicycles the worlds largest and best bike manufacturer enters the full suspension 29er fray in style. Carl Decker wins the super D on a prototype Anthem 29er. Check it fools...http://www.cyclingnews.com/races/us-.../photos/116005

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    they already had a 29er hardtail... but that's cool.

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    Largest sure. Best? Thats subjective...

    That being said, the Maestro suspension on a 29er should be interesting
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    Largest........ok..... Best,,,,,,,not so much.

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    Best!!! deal with it!!!

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    Interesting new FS 29er...........But, what is more interesting is the amount of wins of 29er bikes at Sea Otter.

    Edit: my bad, I was mixing up the Pan Am games with Sea Otter

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    Too little, too late. I love my Glory, and I really have my Reign-X dialed, but honestly I haven't ridden either one for a few months. Not since I got the Niner WFO. Bring the Faith 29, and they will have my attention.
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    I look forward to it! Maestro is supposedly a great suspension (very similar to DW ) and Giant's have a great pricepoint.

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    Full suspension-Cool
    Another hardtail-Meh

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    Funny, first time I read that 29" won a race because of the argument from the first days:
    "bigger wheels make for 10% longer gear, make you yo further every pedal rotation".

    Pedaling into the lead at 50mph. Decker is of course an experienced singlespeeder. In such conditions he ought to win against the Euro's, even in equally long gears.
    Admitted though, the Euro guys may be of a different fitness level, proven by their world cup results.

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    rushman3, velodude2112. There's a weird Rush vibe in this thread . . .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cloxxki
    Funny, first time I read that 29" won a race because of the argument from the first days:
    "bigger wheels make for 10% longer gear, make you yo further every pedal rotation".
    No one uses that argument in the CN coverage.

    What Decker said is that he had the biggest gear. If any of the 26" boys had mounted a 46 or a 48, they would have that gear too. It has nothing to do with wheelsize.

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    Sure, it would have been smart for Giant to bring this bike to the market years ago, but that did not happen, and it is here now. And my guess is that it is going to perform quite well, and make a lot of riders happy.
    When under pressure, your level of performance will sink to your level of preparation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Velodude2112
    Best!!! deal with it!!!

    LOL


    I think this is good. Everyone I know who rides a 26" anthem loves it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cruiserman
    rushman3, velodude2112. There's a weird Rush vibe in this thread . . .
    Nothing goes together better than Rush and Cycling!!!

    I have a Pivot 429 now and love it. But I really can't wait until 2012 to get on a new composite Anthem 29er!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Velodude2112
    Nothing goes together better than Rush and Cycling!!!

    I have a Pivot 429 now and love it. But I really can't wait until 2012 to get on a new composite Anthem 29er!!!
    Get some good lights and you'll be able to fly by night. Always obey the traffic signals, though. Watch out for motorists with power windows- makes it easier to throw objects at cyclists.

    Wonder when the Anthem will be available in this hemisphere? Giant's FS bike have always displayed grace under pressure, no reason this one should be any different. Will wait for more feedback to decide.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tommyrod74
    Get some good lights and you'll be able to fly by night. Always obey the traffic signals, though. Watch out for motorists with power windows- makes it easier to throw objects at cyclists.
    You just had to steal the limelight didn't you? Guess that's why they call you the working man


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    Quote Originally Posted by jncarpenter
    You just had to steal the limelight didn't you? Guess that's why they call you the working man
    Thinking of getting one of the Cane Creek 110 headsets and some Hope hubs. Kind of a farewell to Kings.
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    I think it looks great...can’t wait to see the finished thing!

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    Quote Originally Posted by EGF168
    I think it looks great...can’t wait to see the finished thing!
    This is already a second generation prototype we are seeing, so I doubt the final product will look much different.
    When under pressure, your level of performance will sink to your level of preparation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rkj__
    This is already a second generation prototype we are seeing, so I doubt the final product will look much different.
    I know. But I doubt that’s the final colour scheme or component spec, not that there’s anything wrong with either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tommyrod74
    Thinking of getting one of the Cane Creek 110 headsets and some Hope hubs. Kind of a farewell to Kings.
    Bravado!
    I always found CC a little closer to the heart! Keep that 110 under lock and key, but once you have it installed...show, don't tell (you know, put it in front of the camera eye). Do I like RUSH? You bet your life!


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    Carl Decker (Giant) with his new prototype 29er full suspension bike (he wins with aditional weight over head)

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    Quote Originally Posted by jncarpenter
    Bravado!
    I always found CC a little closer to the heart! Keep that 110 under lock and key, but once you have it installed...show, don't tell (you know, put it in front of the camera eye). Do I like RUSH? You bet your life!
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    Quote Originally Posted by tommyrod74
    PLEASE tell me you've seen the movie "I Love You Man".
    LMAO!


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    Glad to see Giant finally get their maestro system on a 29er. How much does Decker weigh? I see he is rolling a ZTR Race Wheelset.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Velodude2112
    Giant Bicycles the worlds largest and best bike manufacturer enters the full suspension 29er fray in style. Carl Decker wins the super D on a prototype Anthem 29er. Check it fools...http://www.cyclingnews.com/races/us-.../photos/116005
    Carl rode to same bike to a 9th place finish in the Short Track XC yesterday. Will post pics later.
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    god god, thats a tall frame and a high seat ! How tall is he ? Must be at least 6'5"

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    Quote Originally Posted by 92gli
    god god, thats a tall frame and a high seat ! How tall is he ? Must be at least 6'5"
    Seriously?

    Carl's a bit less than six feet tall. Buck forty five, I'd say.

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    more pics of #170 would be nice
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    and just in case no one's seen it, Bike Rumor also has loads of pics http://www.bikerumor.com/2010/04/18/...mountain-bike/
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    Quote Originally Posted by rojogonzo
    more pics of #170 would be nice
    I was thinking the same thing.............

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    Quote Originally Posted by 42t
    Seriously?

    Carl's a bit less than six feet tall. Buck forty five, I'd say.
    His profile on US CUP shows him to be 6'0" and 160.
    http://www.uscup.net/index.php?profile/3/CarlDecker--8
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    Quote Originally Posted by rushman3
    Interesting new FS 29er...........But, what is more interesting is the amount of wins of 29er bikes at Sea Otter.

    Edit: my bad, I was mixing up the Pan Am games with Sea Otter

    Actually, I think a bunch of 29ers were in top 5 at Sea Otter also. I found some pics on Conrad Stoltz's site of Burry Stander and Christoph Sauser warming up on Specialized 29er HTs for their "virgin 29er race" for the short track. Burrys bike reportedly weighed around 18 lbs!They and Todd Wells were all top 5. Not sure if they rode them for the XC but they were all top 5 there as well. Geoff Kabush was top 5, I think he's riding a 29er, right? And JHK was in there too. It begins...

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    Quote Originally Posted by rojogonzo
    more pics of #170 would be nice
    Quote Originally Posted by HOLLYWOOD33
    I was thinking the same thing.............
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    Quote Originally Posted by BiknBob
    Actually, I think a bunch of 29ers were in top 5 at Sea Otter also. I found some pics on Conrad Stoltz's site of Burry Stander and Christoph Sauser warming up on Specialized 29er HTs for their "virgin 29er race" for the short track. Burrys bike reportedly weighed around 18 lbs!They and Todd Wells were all top 5. Not sure if they rode them for the XC but they were all top 5 there as well. Geoff Kabush was top 5, I think he's riding a 29er, right? And JHK was in there too. It begins...
    Kabush was on little wheels. Looked funny among the many 29ers at the front.
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    That thing is so dope
    Why are there so many threads about cheap ass bikes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 42t
    Seriously?

    Carl's a bit less than six feet tall. Buck forty five, I'd say.
    Carl is test riding a size large.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rkj__
    This is already a second generation prototype we are seeing, so I doubt the final product will look much different.
    Correct. Carl's bike is a second-generation prototype which means we have the ability to make small changes for final production, but pretty much what you see is what you will be able to buy next year.

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    Awesome. I've always loved Anthem X's. I was thinking about getting one when I graduate this fall, for the following spring already, but the 29er flavour makes it even more appealing. I hope there's an SLX/XT level build. Or maybe a frame?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GiantBicycle
    Correct. Carl's bike is a second-generation prototype which means we have the ability to make small changes for final production, but pretty much what you see is what you will be able to buy next year.
    When you say next year, do you mean next calendar year, or next model year (i.e. 2011 bikes released in H2 2010)?

    Don't know if I can wait another 8 months+ !

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    If they release Anthem X 29er for 2011 it is actually on the early side of my expectations.
    I suspected they wanted another year of experience with the 29er HTs (especially tuning the geometry and steering) before launching a more R&D-intensive FS onto the market. And I think Giant sometimes is a little conservative, adding to the delay.
    But 2011 is good news - I'll get in line for one :-)

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    Well, it's been a while since the news of the Anthem X29 prototype came out. Anyone heard anything else about announcement or shipping info?

    Am off to the world cup in South Africa, and am keen to pick up a new ride upon my return - itching to see if Giant release it in a similar timeframe!

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    2011 model, soonest you'll see them available to the public will be last quarter of 2010, which means sometime around Sept/Oct - IF they're doing them as a 2011 launch.
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    Well, it's been a while since the news of the Anthem X29 prototype came out. Anyone heard anything else about announcement or shipping info?

    Am off to the world cup in South Africa, and am keen to pick up a new ride upon my return - itching to see if Giant release it in a similar timeframe!
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    Quote Originally Posted by LyNx
    2011 model, soonest you'll see them available to the public will be last quarter of 2010, which means sometime around Sept/Oct - IF they're doing them as a 2011 launch.
    Carl just approved his prototype which means we'll be moving into ful production mode. Look for additional news around August 1st--this is when the bkes will be launched to our dealers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GiantBicycle
    Carl just approved his prototype which means we'll be moving into ful production mode. Look for additional news around August 1st--this is when the bkes will be launched to our dealers.
    pricepoints?
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    Quote Originally Posted by GiantBicycle
    Carl just approved his prototype which means we'll be moving into ful production mode. Look for additional news around August 1st--this is when the bkes will be launched to our dealers.
    A 29er Trance model would rock.. 5"
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    Quote Originally Posted by GiantBicycle
    Carl just approved his prototype which means we'll be moving into ful production mode. Look for additional news around August 1st--this is when the bkes will be launched to our dealers.
    Great - thanks for the update

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    Quote Originally Posted by rojogonzo
    more pics of #170 would be nice


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    Quote Originally Posted by DirtDummy
    pricepoints?
    Sorry guys, can't spill all the beans at once. But you can rest assured there will be a price point for just about budget. I think most of you will agree the colors and graphics we've selected for some of the models are outstanding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mo0se
    A 29er Trance model would rock.. 5"
    Damn Straight!!!! Would prob be as good chucking a 120mm fork on the anthem!

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    Quote Originally Posted by morganfletcher


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    Quote Originally Posted by rojogonzo
    so sorry to offend
    Dude - keep up the good work (seriously)
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    Quote Originally Posted by GiantBicycle
    Sorry guys, can't spill all the beans at once. But you can rest assured there will be a price point for just about budget. I think most of you will agree the colors and graphics we've selected for some of the models are outstanding.
    No offense, but I couldn't give a poo about graphics or colors: I want value for the $$$
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    Where is the secret Trance X 29er?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GiantBicycle
    I think most of you will agree the colors and graphics we've selected for some of the models are outstanding.
    Pics or they don't exist . . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by GiantBicycle
    Carl just approved his prototype which means we'll be moving into ful production mode. Look for additional news around August 1st--this is when the bkes will be launched to our dealers.
    Thanks for the info.

    It seems that the geometry of all the Giant XC mountain bikes are the same. Will this model also share the same geometry? I am hoping to see a XXL say with a 26" TT from a company called Giant if you know what I mean or is that asking too much?

    Really glad to see Giant making a XC fully 29er

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    Quote Originally Posted by yogiprophet
    Thanks for the info.

    It seems that the geometry of all the Giant XC mountain bikes are the same. Will this model also share the same geometry? I am hoping to see a XXL say with a 26" TT from a company called Giant if you know what I mean or is that asking too much?

    Really glad to see Giant making a XC fully 29er
    I agree, 25" TT for an XL seams pretty short if that is the biggest that you are offering. Oh, and a Trance 29 would be pretty cool.

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    Give me a carbon Trance X 29er right now with rear maxle 135x12 and 150x12 options. I shall take the latter one please!!

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    Looks fast standing still.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach417
    Looks fast standing still.
    Took the words out of my mouth....
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    Quote Originally Posted by jwdlm
    U read my mind too, thanks! That second link is incorrect btw.

    Like to see more of the new Giant 29er too.

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    Thanks for the pics - I find it kinda strange that that guy in the pictures was wearing goggles, though....

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    . deleted . duplicate pic!

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    Quote Originally Posted by larsbaby
    Thanks for the pics - I find it kinda strange that that guy in the pictures was wearing goggles, though....
    Yeah like it was cold weather or something....why not glassses instead?
    Get off the couch and ride! :)

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    Found a link on the AUS site w/pic/pricing:

    http://www.giant-bicycles.com/en-AU/....1/7275/44211/

    Also looks like an integrated post mount for the R brake.....interesting, even though I'm not a fan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by veteran_youth
    Found a link on the AUS site w/pic/pricing:

    http://www.giant-bicycles.com/en-AU/....1/7275/44211/

    Also looks like an integrated post mount for the R brake.....interesting, even though I'm not a fan.
    Yep, I've ordered one here in Australia (Sydney) and expect to receive it in about 2 weeks now. What I, and others who have ordered, can't figure out is what Fork it comes with. All the documentation suggests the F29 RLC except for the first page of that link which refers to the RL.

    One chap on another forum has been told by his LBS that it is indeed the RL and not the RLC. I guess i'll have more information in about 2 weeks time!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jubas
    Yep, I've ordered one here in Australia (Sydney) and expect to receive it in about 2 weeks now. What I, and others who have ordered, can't figure out is what Fork it comes with. All the documentation suggests the F29 RLC except for the first page of that link which refers to the RL.

    One chap on another forum has been told by his LBS that it is indeed the RL and not the RLC. I guess i'll have more information in about 2 weeks time!!
    full specs indicate: Fox 32 F29 FIT RLC w/15QR axle & tapered steerer, 4.0”/100mm
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    A little bit of pee just trickled out of my pipi when I saw that.

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    Looks like only one spec level, contrary to the promise of the guy from Giant who posted in this thread. Hope I'm wrong Frameset at least would be great.
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    Quote Originally Posted by M_S
    Looks like only one spec level, contrary to the promise of the guy from Giant who posted in this thread. Hope I'm wrong Frameset at least would be great.
    Agreed.
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    425?

    Chainstays 425 mm. Can that be right? That is short.

    The Tallboy was the shortest at 444.5.

    Edit:
    Looking at the Geometry page that is listed, I think what is listed is for the regular Anthem X not the Anthem X 29

    Second Edit:

    Ok, I guess I will wait and see. Wow, want a test ride.
    Here's to sweat in your eye.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mudncrud
    Chainstays 425 mm. Can that be right? That is short.

    The Tallboy was the shortest at 444.5.
    yep, very short but certainly possible. Banshee Paradox is 426mm and Canfield Nimble 9 is adjustable down to 412.75mm

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    Quote Originally Posted by boomn
    yep, very short but certainly possible. Banshee Paradox is 426mm and Canfield Nimble 9 is adjustable down to 412.75mm
    ...and those are both hardtails.
    Originally posted by bucksaw87
    I still fail to see how mustaches, fixies, and PBR are ironic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by frorider
    ...and those are both hardtails.
    sorry, forgot which thread I was in

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    Quote Originally Posted by DirtDummy
    full specs indicate: Fox 32 F29 FIT RLC w/15QR axle & tapered steerer, 4.0”/100mm
    Yeah, can see that but we often get lower-specced versions in Australia and given that one of the bike shops that has accepted a pre-order (although not mine) has said that they think it's the RL, there's a little concern.

    Still, we'll see in a few weeks when the first batch arrives..

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    Interesting when I go the the Giant Web page then click Bikes there is no listing for the Anthem X 29.

    Yet the link posted shows one. Even from that link posted if you select the Bikes tab the Anthem X 29 is not listed.

    When does it become official? Interbike? That seems a ways away.
    Here's to sweat in your eye.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jubas
    Yeah, can see that but we often get lower-specced versions in Australia and given that one of the bike shops that has accepted a pre-order (although not mine) has said that they think it's the RL, there's a little concern.

    Still, we'll see in a few weeks when the first batch arrives..
    Let us know what happens. And post the weight of that bad boy too.
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    Frame design

    The section where the top tube mounts to the seat tube area looks very delicate compared to the split designs from Specialized, and Turner. I hope that this design from Giant is durable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DirtDummy
    Let us know what happens. And post the weight of that bad boy too.
    Shall do!

    Another confirmation from a different bike shop says it's the RL fork as well. Bummer, but i'll still be happy with the bike!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Velodude2112
    Best!!! deal with it!!!
    We did deal with it: we called out the BS.


    Did I read it correctly that it is only avalaible in
    L (19) & XL (20.5) sized bike with 7” front rotor

    no medium or small?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Curmy
    We did deal with it: we called out the BS.


    Did I read it correctly that it is only avalaible in
    L (19) & XL (20.5) sized bike with 7” front rotor

    no medium or small?
    Not with the 7" rotor. The small and medium have a 6" rotor up front..

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    How is the Maestro suspension regarded in terms of efficiency?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dictatorsaurus
    How is the Maestro suspension regarded in terms of efficiency?
    I would guess, just like pretty much any other modern suspension - perfectly fine.

    What is the shock stroke on it 1.5", 1.75" or 2.0"?

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    Here are the Giant specs:

    http://www.giant-bicycles.com/en-AU/....0/7275/44211/

    Looking at the large frame geometry looks like it fits me perfectly.

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    thats really nice, i third that fast quote!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mudncrud
    Chainstays 425 mm. Can that be right? That is short.

    The Tallboy was the shortest at 444.5.

    Edit:
    Looking at the Geometry page that is listed, I think what is listed is for the regular Anthem X not the Anthem X 29

    Second Edit:

    Ok, I guess I will wait and see. Wow, want a test ride.
    I took a second look at the pictures that have been in this thread all along and now I'm doubting too.

    29" Crossmark + 44t chainring = 366mm + 91mm = 457mm (+extra because there is a gap between the tire and the chainring).

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    I'm not familiar with that wheelset and there isn't any info online about them. Are those UST?

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    The geometry currently on the Australian site is for the 26er Anthem X…this is the 29er geometry. Chainstay length is 18.2in.

    Quote Originally Posted by stiingya
    anthem 29er

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    Quote Originally Posted by EGF168
    The geometry currently on the Australian site is for the 26er Anthem X…this is the 29er geometry. Chainstay length is 18.2in.
    I like the stand over height numbers. I always ride size L but technically I could also clear the XL frame. Can't wait to try one out.

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    Test rode one yesterday at a dealer demo event... all I can say is my thoughts have been confirmed and I will be owning my first giant after years of apprehension. Coming from a 29er hardtail, I felt the pro-pedal was definitely stiff enough and soaked up hits when needed. leaving the shock open was great. no extreme pedal feedback, plush ride yet responsive. everything I would want out of a full suspension bike with out any negatives. now mind you, this was used on a ten mile loop of my favorite local spot. so I was able to test it back to back with my hardtail on familiar terrain. I only got out of the saddle once just to check for any lack of stiffness, and I can't recall any immediate complaints. It even handled very well on a section of uphill switchbacks. the trail has lots of rollers with rockgardens on the backsides. the bike soaked everything up with a "try me" demeanor.
    I am convinced I'm going to build this frame up and it will be my go to arrow in the quiver. sharp looking bike and not to shabby on weight. sorry, no scale. rode a large. rider: 6', 32" inseam. riding 18" hardtail
    I tried to convince myself today that I would wait until after Interbike to order anything, but the Anthem keeps ringing in my ears!

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