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    Full Suspension XC Bikeís w/ Two Water Bottles...

    Iíve been riding an Epic Marathon for the past five years and itís about time to get a new XC / marathon rig. The primary issues Iíve had with the Epic is that it only holds one water bottle so Iím trying to find one that holds two. This is the list Iíve compiled so far... anyone got anything else?

    Orbea Oiz
    Cannondale Scalpel
    Specialized Epic
    Canyon Lux
    Rocky Mountain Element
    Orbea Alma
    Ritchey Road Logic
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    I believe the Santa Cruz Blur will take two, but one is below the downtube (if you care).

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    Cannondale Scalpel Si has two inside the front triangle.
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    Turner Czar

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    Endurance XC forum is a good place to inquire as well.
    Ripley V1 XC/Gravel Adventure rig
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    Best have been mentioned, but KTM Scarp also holds two inside.

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    Quote Originally Posted by G-Choro
    KTM Scarp also holds two inside.
    Pricey too!
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    Quote Originally Posted by JMac47 View Post
    Pricey too!
    You can sign up to be an ambassador and get a 35% discount. But even then their pricing is out of whack for a new, unknown (for MTB in the US), direct-to-consumer brand (they selling in shops yet?). So yeah. Pretty expensive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by G-Choro View Post
    Best have been mentioned, but KTM Scarp also holds two inside.
    The seat tube cage will only take a small 500ml bottle, if you're lucky. I know as I have one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steve_b77 View Post
    The seat tube cage will only take a small 500ml bottle, if you're lucky. I know as I have one.
    Interesting. Thanks. I wonder what the OIZ will fit? Looks a bit tighter than the Lux.

    How do you like the Scarp overall?

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    I pretty skeptical of the downtube mount on the new Oiz being able to accommodate a normal sized bottle but it's hard to tell in the pics. In pics of what I believe to be a M sized frame there's no way you'd fit a full sized bottle, but on a L or XL it looks a bit better.

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    Thanks for the feedback everyone, there's a few options that I wasn't aware of. The downsides of the Blur and the Czar is that the bottle is on the outside of the triangle and given the gritty sandy stuff I regularly ride around in that's probably not idea... not sure I'd want to drink from a bottle directly exposed to those conditions.

    Right now I'm leaning towards the RM Element and the Orbea Oiz. I have an Orbea Alma now and it's a great bike plus Orbea has a lifetime frame warranty, but I love the looks and bigger travel of the RM Element...
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    Can't go wrong with the RM Element, it's a great bike and the extra travel is a plus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CBRsteve View Post
    ...but I love the looks and bigger travel of the RM Element...
    You can't actually get the new Oiz yet, but you can spec a 120 fork on any of the models through their MyO customization program or you can get the TR spec stock with 120mm front and rear travel: https://www.orbea.com/us-en/bicycles/oiz-29-m10-tr-19

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    Quote Originally Posted by G-Choro View Post
    Interesting. Thanks. I wonder what the OIZ will fit? Looks a bit tighter than the Lux.

    How do you like the Scarp overall?
    I love it, I've had mine for 3 years now and it's a brilliant bike. Considerably better than the Anthem X1 I had before it. It's fast, light, climbs really well and descends brilliantly.

    I use mine for 12 & 24hr races to good effect, it carried me to Bronze in the recent WEMBO European 24hr solo champs in Slovakia :-)

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    Yeah my good buddy owns a shop that sells Orbea and he's really pushing me towards the Oiz. He's got one on order but it's not coming in until December. The only real downside for me is the wheels, they come with relatively skinny Mavic rims and even with MyO you can't get wider wheels...
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    My 2018 Epic takes 2 bottles. Size Medium. I use this bike for long rides. 4-8 hour back country races and rides. I also rode it a Breck Epic this year.

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    '18 Specialized Epic 29", 19' Vassago Optimus Ti SS 29", '19 Ibis Ripmo, XC, AM, blah blah blah.. I just ride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CBRsteve View Post
    The downsides of the Blur and the Czar is that the bottle is on the outside of the triangle and given the gritty sandy stuff I regularly ride around in that's probably not ideal... not sure I'd want to drink from a bottle directly exposed to those conditions
    You can just switch tops from the empty bottle to the 2nd one. Thereís also the Chase vest from Camelback along with their soft bottle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JMac47 View Post
    You can just switch tops from the empty bottle to the 2nd one. Thereís also the Chase vest from Camelback along with their soft bottle.
    I'm definitely not with you on the under the tube bottle, outside of things like a bike packing or touring where you need to maximize cargo capacity I think those mounts are extremely flawed, especially for XC/marathon racing.

    I am with you on the Chase vest though. I was also looking hard for a FS XC bike with 2 bottles inside the triangle for endurance XC and after using a Chase all year I don't care so much anymore. Much lighter/cooler than my old hydration packs and I've been able to get by just fine with that + one frame bottle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bikerfisher11 View Post
    Can't go wrong with the RM Element, it's a great bike and the extra travel is a plus.
    Great bike, but the second bottle has to be pretty small.

    But it's still a second bottle!
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    Quote Originally Posted by JoePAz View Post
    My 2018 Epic takes 2 bottles. Size Medium. I use this bike for long rides. 4-8 hour back country races and rides. I also rode it a Breck Epic this year.

    Plus a seat box nestled in there too! Nice! Howíd does the lower holder mount?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JoePAz View Post
    My 2018 Epic takes 2 bottles. Size Medium. I use this bike for long rides. 4-8 hour back country races and rides. I also rode it a Breck Epic this year.

    How is that P6 seatpost? I'm tempted to get one but I don't want to break it in a few rides and end up wasting my money.

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    The bottle mounts are standard factory stuff. I use side entry Zee cages. That hold well and work. Plus the have mount for thenSWAT multi tool. Specialized did a great job to fit all this in a medium frame. And suspension works great too


    As for the seat post. Works perfect. I pulled it off my old bike where I put 3000 miles on it including about 1000 bike packing with a seat bag hanging off it. I am about 165lbs and it just works. The new bike has about 900 miles. Also need to figure my old bike. Was used when I got it so my 4000 ish miles are less than what is really on the seat post. Poat
    Is probably 5 years old at least
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    I love my Epic Marathon, just not the ridiculous service costs/timing for the Brain forks. That's why it's not really in my consideration set right now... but I agree, it's a great bike.
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