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    Forget Monster Cross, I ride an All Terrain Bike!

    Lets end the silly semantics about Monstercross and stick to the conservative definition of it. Drop bars, rim brakes, 45ish knobby tires, cross geometry. Whatever you want for gearing.
    Drop bar 29ers are not Monstercross.

    The All Terrain Bike is built with the intent to compromise its capabilities between road, dirt road, and trail riding. This definition is intended to be used for those bikes where other currently used definitions fall short. Simply put, it is a weird bike, built however I need, that will go almost anywhere well enough. If it fits into a more specific category, use that category.

    My Fisticuff fits the bill. With flat bars, mullet brakes, and room for any tire up to 1.9, it doesn't fit the Monstercross definition, but it is an All Terrain Bike.



    My Jabberwocky is not an All Terrain Bike. It is a mountain bike.


    Now shut up and ride whatever you have.

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    I 100% AGREE!

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    Real Men Ride With Oven Mitts

    Sweet oven mitts and matching luggage!


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    I don't actually ride bikes at all. I just banter over the symantic variances in nomenclature relating to various subcategories into which they fall. On the internet. Alone. In a dark room.
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    Whats up with the sail that is attached in the main triangle? Help with hills?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cbchess
    I like brown teeth...
    It's obvious that those folk could care less what you call their all-terrain mountain fixie meunster-cross dressed recumbant brakeless Jazzy's.

    What's important is that they ride those Jazzy's with oven mitts that are much more festive looking than the drab versions stuck on the grips of that Fisticuff.

    My guess is that because of that festiveness they are much more easily seen by motorists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by frdfandc
    Whats up with the sail that is attached in the main triangle? Help with hills?
    It is actually for aerodynamics, along with the things on the bars and seat. Wind tunnel testing shows that air actually circulates back into the front triangle and behind the seat, creating drag, and that filling these spaces with specially shaped fabric decreases drag. The brake levers, bar ends, grips, and the rider's hands have many odd surfaces, so the things on the bars smooth out that interface and reduce drag.

    With a strong tail wind, you can tack back and forth too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by campredcloudbikes
    It is actually for aerodynamics, along with the things on the bars and seat. Wind tunnel testing shows that air actually circulates back into the front triangle and behind the seat, creating drag, and that filling these spaces with specially shaped fabric decreases drag. The brake levers, bar ends, grips, and the rider's hands have many odd surfaces, so the things on the bars smooth out that interface and reduce drag.

    With a strong tail wind, you can tack back and forth too.
    That's a good point. However, I'd continue the draglessness of the bike and add a garbage can lid to the rear wheel like on the old Yeti DH bikes:



    Then go new school with a dragless number plate and fyourk guards:



    Eventually you'll have a prepetual motion bike. At least that's the theory.

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    Herman prefers the term...

    ..."Munstercross"
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    "All Terrain Bike"? What's up, wordsy? How about just "bike".

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    All Terrain PRO!

    ...strictly downhill...

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    I think I'm okay with the expanded definition of monstercross to include any bike with dropbars and knobby tires. It's not even a real market segment, for crying out load!

    I'd consider an all-terrain bike any bike capable of traversing all terrain, including, but not limited to: mountain bikes, cross bikes, BMX bikes, touring bikes, all rounders, klunkers, monstercrossers, beach cruisers, fat bikes, country bikes, city bikes, offroad fixies, unicycles, kids' bikes with handlebar tassles, and road bikes with lots of scratches and flat tires.

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    I kinda like the term all arounder. Like this....

    Currently has 40c speedmax pro. Firecross was for like a day. Horrible tire IMO


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    Quote Originally Posted by jmadams13
    I kinda like the term all arounder. Like this....

    Currently has 40c speedmax pro. Firecross was for like a day. Horrible tire IMO

    Sounds good to me. Nice Cross Check. How do you like the mustache bars?

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    I don't know about you guys, but I can't my mountain bike on anything other than dirt.

    When I do, bad things happens. People yell at me on the street, complaining that I'm doing it wrong and that I need drop bars. When it sits on the sidewalk, would be indie bike thieves attempt steal it then throw into the street upon coasting. Apparently they only steal fixed gears. I can't take my mountain bike on beat up country roads without getting attacked by dogs or run over by tractors.

    So be glad you have all terrain bike. Because I dont.

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    Early Monster Crosser ?

    I saw Tomac race this down the Mammoth Kamikaze way back when
    Forget Monster Cross, I ride an All Terrain Bike!-tuckertomac_yeti_final_1ws.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by bolandjd
    Sounds good to me. Nice Cross Check. How do you like the mustache bars?
    I love them. Tried a bunch of different bar set ups, drops, dirt drops, flat, riser, scott lifelites... And these feel the best. Hard to get very areo in them when on longer road rides (road tires) but all in all these feel great. On singletrack, bay far the most comfortable I have had away from normal MTB bars. The nitto bars have just a tad of flex. I was running the somas, but they felt like a noodle on anything just a tad rocky, and thats the point of this bike. Worth the extra coin for the nittos IMO

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    Pretty awesome, you rant against one subjective classifications in order to create a new one. Well played.
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    So you built a hybrid. A fancy hybrid...with mitten things...

    Cool.

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    Coconino already coined it!!
    A flat barred monstercrosser is called a "rambler".
    Someone else named it first, deal with it.

    I'm breaking the mold, and using a 26" front disc'd wheel on a lemond buenos aires frame for the ultimate mullet/urban/pursuit/cyclo/rambling/monster/cumonayewannalayya/hipster/cafe bike. BOOYAH!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Double-Butted
    I saw Tomac race this down the Mammoth Kamikaze way back when
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    i quite like the term "dirt roadster" i like the trend - it's nice to have a prctical bike that will go where you want speedily, reliably & can carry gear in a pinch, yet eschews the designer racks & polished stainless....... Steve Garro, Coconino Cycles.
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    All your bikes suck. Mine is way better.

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    Pabs nailed it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pabs
    Pretty awesome, you rant against one subjective classifications in order to create a new one. Well played.
    "Monstercross" is as silly a term as the rest of the contrived and frothy label of the last ten years- "All mountain" , "Free ride" etc.

    Monstercross is just another way to say "cross bike with big ass tires". I'm gonna go with that moniker instead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moondoggy
    "Monstercross" is as silly a term as the rest of the contrived and frothy label of the last ten years- "All mountain" , "Free ride" etc.

    Monstercross is just another way to say "cross bike with big ass tires". I'm gonna go with that moniker instead.
    EXACTLY.

    And, we've been throwing around this term for half a decade, I would say it's already been decided. I rode a Willits MonsterX in 2006 for christ's sake.

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