Everyone wants to ride my Pole- Mtbr.com
Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 200 of 317
  1. #1
    Orange Bikes USA Dealer
    Reputation: Zerort's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Posts
    1,340

    Everyone wants to ride my Pole

    Maybe.

    This just arrived today. Very heavy frame at 4.18 kg, but I guess that is to be expected for how long it is.

    We will see how it rides and the total weight as I try out this unique frame.

    This is the 110 travel Evolink as I will be using it mostly on light trail and XC rides. They have other travel bikes as well. 140, 160?

    Frame took a little over a month to arrive and the people at Pole were relatively helpfule. It is very high quality and I love the color. Interesting it lacks a head badge though???

    It came with the headset, rear maxle, shock, seat clamp, and miscellaneous fittings.

    The rear end is huge and looks like 29 x 3 would easily fit, if that is your thing.

    Enjoy
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails Everyone wants to ride my Pole-20170427_113132.jpg  

    Everyone wants to ride my Pole-20170427_114846.jpg  

    Everyone wants to ride my Pole-20170427_114938.jpg  

    by Silentfoe
    I'm satisfied knowing that what I wear during my "day" job makes me more of a man than you'll ever be.

  2. #2
    Norðwegr
    Reputation: Vegard's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Posts
    1,900
    You forgot the most interesting thing, you can fold the frame (which is in part why it's so wide at the back)

  3. #3
    Out spokin'
    Reputation: Sparticus's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 1999
    Posts
    10,486
    Ride report, please.
    =s
    disciplesofdirt.org

    We don't quit riding because we get old.
    We get old because we quit riding.

  4. #4
    mtbr member
    Reputation: schnee's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Posts
    1,797
    Yeah, it's hard to get many people to see these, and I'm curious how their philosophy of the super long reach works in practice.

    More pictures! More posts!
    Yamaguchi Cross • YT Jeffsy • Salsa Mukluk & Vaya • Canyon Commuter

  5. #5
    Orange Bikes USA Dealer
    Reputation: Zerort's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Posts
    1,340
    I'll have more pictures by Monday. Ride will be middle of next week. The only thing I still need to get is a seatpost.

    Yes, and it came folded, although the axle that holds it together is a tight fit so I'm not sure how much I'll actually be folding it.

    Final weight looks like it will be under 28 lbs.

  6. #6
    mtbr member
    Reputation: RS VR6's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Posts
    5,490
    Quote Originally Posted by Zerort View Post
    Final weight looks like it will be under 28 lbs.
    Under 28lbs with a 9lb+ frame and Fox 36? You must be running some really light parts.

    Very curious about the way it rides. Waiting on your ride report.

  7. #7
    Orange Bikes USA Dealer
    Reputation: Zerort's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Posts
    1,340
    Quote Originally Posted by RS VR6 View Post
    Under 28lbs with a 9lb+ frame and Fox 36? You must be running some really light parts.

    Very curious about the way it rides. Waiting on your ride report.
    It's a 130mm Fox 34, not 36.

    However, I may switch to a 120mm SID depending on the ride/ fit.

    Parts are the same as I had on my Norco Optic. Weight savings comes from XX1 crank, light wheels (Industry Nine trail @ 1,460 grams), and light tires - Rocket Ron 2.25".

    This is Poles XC version so no need for bomber tires, especially where I ride in the Midwest.

    Brakes are XT, pedals XTR, post and bars are carbon. Shifter and derailleur are X0.

    I too am very curious how it rides. From everything I have read that is available online, the bike rides and climbs great.

    We will see next week.
    by Silentfoe
    I'm satisfied knowing that what I wear during my "day" job makes me more of a man than you'll ever be.

  8. #8
    transmitter~receiver
    Reputation: meltingfeather's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Posts
    9,308
    is it solid aluminum?!?
    Quote Originally Posted by pvd
    Time to stop believing the hype and start doing some science.
    29er Tire Weight Database

  9. #9
    Orange Bikes USA Dealer
    Reputation: Zerort's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Posts
    1,340
    Quote Originally Posted by meltingfeather View Post
    is it solid aluminum?!?
    In some places I think it might be. LOL

    The frame was suppose to be 3.3 kg without the shock. Don't know how much a shock, clamp, rear axle and headset weigh but I was a bit miffed when I put it on the scale.

    This bike is not going to be my only bike, it's more of an experiment to see how these super long bikes ride and handle. So no way I'm sending it back to Finland now.

    Also, I don't think a full suspension bike this big that is under 28 lbs is too heavy. My size medium Knolly Endo was 27 lbs or so. The wheelbase on this bike is 1,248, with a 480mm reach for a size medium.

    If anything it's good for training for to transition onto my 22 lb Norco Revolver.
    Last edited by Zerort; 04-28-2017 at 04:37 AM.

  10. #10
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Posts
    642
    Excellent bike, very interested to hear how you go.

    I think you will love the seating position with the SA. Tell us about the long, how tall are you and what size frame did you go for?

  11. #11
    Orange Bikes USA Dealer
    Reputation: Zerort's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Posts
    1,340
    Quote Originally Posted by WilliamK View Post
    Excellent bike, very interested to hear how you go.

    I think you will love the seating position with the SA. Tell us about the long, how tall are you and what size frame did you go for?
    I am 5' 9" tall, weigh 150 lbs. I went with a medium frame.

    As mentioned above, the reach is 480 mm. My large Norco Revolver has a 460 mm reach. I'm thinking I will need to do some trial and error with various stem lengths to find a fit that works.

    As you mention, the SA will come to into that. However, I didn't have a 30.9 mm seat post so I had to order one which will hopefully arrive Thursday.
    by Silentfoe
    I'm satisfied knowing that what I wear during my "day" job makes me more of a man than you'll ever be.

  12. #12
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Jul 2016
    Posts
    121
    Quote Originally Posted by schnee View Post
    Yeah, it's hard to get many people to see these, and I'm curious how their philosophy of the super long reach works in practice.

    More pictures! More posts!
    I demo'd a MOJO Geometron a couple of weeks ago, I'm 5'10 and spent a day on a longer(medium) which has a 502mm reach.

    in 20 years of "serious" mountain biking I have never ridden anything that has made such a huge difference in how I can ride a bike.

    My current main bikes are a yeti SB6 and a Switchblade but the Mojo just blew them both out of the water in terms of comfort, handling and speed. It's difficult to put into words, you've got to experience it for yourself to see how it feels but for me I simply jumped on the bike and without having to consciously adapt my riding style was able to push the bike so much harder into turns without the front tucking or washing and the long wheelbase means the back end is super stable and just tracks the front.
    Basically I ended up just riding the front and forgetting about the back. Occasionaly the back would break away but it just slides to where it needs to be and grips again, makes you feel like a hero!

    I noticed no downsides to the geometry, I was flicking the bike between trees and through switchbacks with no more effort than on either of my "small" bikes. I rode the bike on mainly relatively mellow blue trails and found it absolutely fine. It's too much bike in terms of travel for my regular riding but I'm 100% sold on the longer is better idea.

    OP, I'm very interested in what you make of the pole as I have ordered a Geometron to replace my SB6 for big days on big hills but I'm thinking about long reach 29er for everyday trail riding and the Evolink and G13 are the two bikes on my shortlist to replace the switchblade.

  13. #13
    Ride Fast Take Chances :)
    Reputation: alexbn921's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Posts
    3,306
    Awesome bike. Can't wait to hear how it rides. Being tall I just built a XXL tallboy with a 505mm reach. First bike that has ever fit me. It's great that they are pushing the limits of bike design. never know how long is to long until you go past it.

  14. #14
    Out spokin'
    Reputation: Sparticus's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 1999
    Posts
    10,486
    Quote Originally Posted by alexbn921 View Post
    ... It's great that they are pushing the limits of bike design. never know how long is to long until you go past it.
    Agreed. Four years ago a new XL Kona Honzo was my wake up call. Until that bike, I wasn't aware that I'd been riding too-small frames for the previous 25 years {gasp!}. Anyway I haven't gone past too long yet. Modern off-road frame design is really good.
    =s
    disciplesofdirt.org

    We don't quit riding because we get old.
    We get old because we quit riding.

  15. #15
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Posts
    1,873
    It will be interesting to compare to the Revolver and Optic with regards reach and front center and how it climbs, flicks, lofts front wheel, etc... I am curious how it does on your pedally terrain.

    I don't seem to get along too well with long front center bikes with regards to lofting the front wheel on demand.

  16. #16
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Posts
    261
    Quote Originally Posted by Pigglet13 View Post
    I demo'd a MOJO Geometron a couple of weeks ago, I'm 5'10 and spent a day on a longer(medium) which has a 502mm reach.

    in 20 years of "serious" mountain biking I have never ridden anything that has made such a huge difference in how I can ride a bike.

    My current main bikes are a yeti SB6 and a Switchblade but the Mojo just blew them both out of the water in terms of comfort, handling and speed. It's difficult to put into words, you've got to experience it for yourself to see how it feels but for me I simply jumped on the bike and without having to consciously adapt my riding style was able to push the bike so much harder into turns without the front tucking or washing and the long wheelbase means the back end is super stable and just tracks the front.
    Basically I ended up just riding the front and forgetting about the back. Occasionaly the back would break away but it just slides to where it needs to be and grips again, makes you feel like a hero!

    I noticed no downsides to the geometry, I was flicking the bike between trees and through switchbacks with no more effort than on either of my "small" bikes. I rode the bike on mainly relatively mellow blue trails and found it absolutely fine. It's too much bike in terms of travel for my regular riding but I'm 100% sold on the longer is better idea.
    I'm getting a few more rides in on my G16 and would agree with this. To be honest, the thing that surprises me most is how well the bike climbs probably because the weight distribution means that front end lift is easy to control and because the suspension works so well, there is lots of traction. Also that even though the bike is long that it's still maneuverable and doesn't seem more difficult to ride through tight sections of trail than other 160mm travel bikes that I've owned or borrowed. Downhill it is awesome but I'd be very surprised and disappointed if it wasn't.

    I've also been interested in the Pole designs, so I'm looking forward to seeing the ride report.

    It's going to be interesting to see if the ideas in these bikes become more mainstream and if so, how long it will take for this to happen.

  17. #17
    mtbr member
    Reputation: LyNx's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Posts
    24,083
    Curious how tall you are OP and how old? I'm 6'2.25" with long arms and legs, 47, not as flexible as I used to be and with a 480mm Reach I'd be on a 40-50mm stem with 780-800 bar, so can't imagine what length stem you'll be using if you're the height for a normal medium frame.
    Quote Originally Posted by Harold
    You're doing mtbr wrong, you're supposed to get increasingly offended by the implications that you're doing ANYTHING wrong.

  18. #18
    Orange Bikes USA Dealer
    Reputation: Zerort's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Posts
    1,340
    Quote Originally Posted by LyNx View Post
    Curious how tall you are OP and how old? I'm 6'2.25" with long arms and legs, 47, not as flexible as I used to be and with a 480mm Reach I'd be on a 40-50mm stem with 780-800 bar, so can't imagine what length stem you'll be using if you're the height for a normal medium frame.
    I'm 5'9" and 46 y/o.

    Stem length TBD, but I have a 35, 40, and 50mm to try out.

    Need the seat post before anything is going to get configured. That is due Wednesday.
    by Silentfoe
    I'm satisfied knowing that what I wear during my "day" job makes me more of a man than you'll ever be.

  19. #19
    Orange Bikes USA Dealer
    Reputation: Zerort's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Posts
    1,340
    Interesting read on Pink Bike today

    https://www.pinkbike.com/news/pole-e...40-review.html
    by Silentfoe
    I'm satisfied knowing that what I wear during my "day" job makes me more of a man than you'll ever be.

  20. #20
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    May 2016
    Posts
    83
    I was wondering what the cost USD was for you if you don't mind sharing? And also did you have to pay any other fees, extra shipping, import, etc.?
    I have a Whyte G-160 which is a fairly large bike in its own right, but after reading a few articles on the Pole bikes including the one Pinkbike just put up today I am getting more and more interested in maybe picking up one of their longer travel 29ers.
    Any info would be appreciated, thanks.

  21. #21
    mtbr member
    Reputation: RS VR6's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Posts
    5,490
    Same here. I really like this frame. I'm typically a solid medium no matter that frame manufacturer I go with. The Pole has a really long reach. My medium Banshee has a reach of 430mm and I use a 50mm stem. That has me spot on. With these super long reach bikes...even with the STA...more often than not...you'll see the saddle slammed forward on its rails. I wonder if I would go down one size?

    If I ever get over my Banshee...the Evolink 130 would be high on my list.

  22. #22
    Ride Fast Take Chances :)
    Reputation: alexbn921's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Posts
    3,306
    Quote Originally Posted by RS VR6 View Post
    Same here. I really like this frame. I'm typically a solid medium no matter that frame manufacturer I go with. The Pole has a really long reach. My medium Banshee has a reach of 430mm and I use a 50mm stem. That has me spot on. With these super long reach bikes...even with the STA...more often than not...you'll see the saddle slammed forward on its rails. I wonder if I would go down one size?

    If I ever get over my Banshee...the Evolink 130 would be high on my list.
    The seating position on this bike is much more forward then a normal bike. This shortens the effective seat tube length. You should go with your normal size otherwise you are not getting the benefit of the new geometry. The whole idea is to try something new, not match what you are on now. Love it or hate it, at least try it as the designers intended.

  23. #23
    Orange Bikes USA Dealer
    Reputation: Zerort's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Posts
    1,340
    To be honest, I think the frame shipped was around $2k +/- due to the currency conversion. There were no other fees involved.

    I read on Pink bike that someone who is 5'10" was riding a large.

    At 5' 9", it seems like the Medium with a 50mm stem is going to fit me just fine, but I won't know until Wednesday evening. Eyeballing the fit, it does not look like I will be stretched out at all.

    I intend to ride it either Wed, or Thursday.

    All in weight is around 27lbs. As shown, it's a bit heavier (look closely and you can see the post, seat, and chain), but I have a different post, saddle and much lighter pedals I will be using than what is shown hanging off this bike.

    With different grips and brakes, it could be in the 26 lb range which is probably where I will eventually go over time.

    As my Knolly Endorphin was at 27 lbs, I feel this is a great weight for what will be my trail bike.
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails Everyone wants to ride my Pole-20170501_172940.jpg  

    by Silentfoe
    I'm satisfied knowing that what I wear during my "day" job makes me more of a man than you'll ever be.

  24. #24
    mtbr member
    Reputation: slider_phil's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2014
    Posts
    569
    Very curious/interested in these super long bikes. Nice weight too, considering the frame/shock weight.

    For comparison my medium Canfield Riot frame with shock, axle and headset is also 4.1kg. my finished build was 31lb with dropper, Pike and mostly mostly carbon everything else.

    Sent from my D6653 using Tapatalk

  25. #25
    mtbr member
    Reputation: LyNx's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Posts
    24,083
    I just don't get this new geometry where the saddle is almost right above the BB, in a position similar to what a TT or Triathlete would be in. I run my saddle "X" distance behind the BB, that doesn't change, no matter the bike I'm on, it means I'm either moving the saddle for aft on the rails on a straight post or setback depending on the STA. On this bike, I'd have to have my saddle slammed all the way back on the rails, on a setback post to get even remotely close to where I run my saddle. I don't just endure climbs for the descents or only do rides that are basically all climbing to then descendind, I enjoy pedaling my bike all over the place, up, down, rolling, flat and that stupid STA just does not work when that is how/what you ride.


    Quote Originally Posted by Zerort View Post
    Interesting read on Pink Bike today

    https://www.pinkbike.com/news/pole-e...40-review.html
    Quote Originally Posted by Harold
    You're doing mtbr wrong, you're supposed to get increasingly offended by the implications that you're doing ANYTHING wrong.

  26. #26
    Orange Bikes USA Dealer
    Reputation: Zerort's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Posts
    1,340
    Well, it seems that everyone who rides this bike loves the STA and that it climbs just fine. Maybe if you tried something different, you may like it.

    Because I buy about 4-5 bikes a year (and then sell them), if it climbs like shit tomorrow, I'll let everyone know. I'm not emotionally invested in any bike that I have bought except for my Norco Revolver which is the best bike I have ever ridden. I will never sell that bike.

    And, because I will be comparing it to the 21.5 lb Revolver, which climbs very well, we will have an direct comparison - of sorts based on some Strava times for my local trail.

    If there is no traffic tomorrow I will time it, and give you the results. Granted, I'm sure this bike will be slower, possibly due to the weight, but let's see by how much. If it's five minutes slower over 14 miles then maybe it's not all that. But 1-3 minutes with nice climbing ability - I'll take that.

    I have a feeling I will be pleasantly surprised.
    by Silentfoe
    I'm satisfied knowing that what I wear during my "day" job makes me more of a man than you'll ever be.

  27. #27
    Orange Bikes USA Dealer
    Reputation: Zerort's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Posts
    1,340
    by Silentfoe
    I'm satisfied knowing that what I wear during my "day" job makes me more of a man than you'll ever be.

  28. #28
    WTF is downcountry?
    Reputation: Tickle's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2013
    Posts
    624
    About 80% of what he said made no sense to me, the reason why he had the saddle slammed all the way forward, whaaa? It honestly sounds like he is making it all up just to rationalize the crazy geometry.

    The part where we only ride "rubbish" trails here in the US so we only ride rubbish bikes??? It's comical really. It's like a mutant where they are taking what works for DH and what works for XC and sticking them together on one bike.

    **edit- the slammed saddle part was from the review of the Pole not the article on Chris Porter. Wheelbase absolutely matters as far as how the bike feels and handles, when someone says they can't feel the long wheelbase in tight sections of trail I immediately stop listening
    Last edited by Tickle; 05-02-2017 at 10:36 AM.

  29. #29
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Sep 2008
    Posts
    517
    FWIW- Guerilla Gravity has similar reach and slightly higher stack numbers and very steep STA (similar to Pole and Mojo) and is made in USA.
    The largest diff I see is the chainstay length (aside from the rear link setup) slightly steeper HTA.
    I have an XL GG Trail Pistol ordered now.

  30. #30
    Orange Bikes USA Dealer
    Reputation: Zerort's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Posts
    1,340
    Quote Originally Posted by chasejj View Post
    FWIW- Guerilla Gravity has similar reach and slightly higher stack numbers and very steep STA (similar to Pole and Mojo) and is made in USA.
    The largest diff I see is the chainstay length (aside from the rear link setup) slightly steeper HTA.
    I have an XL GG Trail Pistol ordered now.
    Essentially the size large GG Megatrail is the size medium Pole. Give or take.

    Seems like they are similar weight as well.

    Good find.
    by Silentfoe
    I'm satisfied knowing that what I wear during my "day" job makes me more of a man than you'll ever be.

  31. #31
    mtbr member
    Reputation: LyNx's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Posts
    24,083
    Please don't forget to take it on some pedally trails, where you are in the saddle constantly pedaling, undulating and flat and don't just putz along like the modern trend, put some good effort into it, really hammer, don't just pedal to get the descents as your reward. Will be very interested to hear how a ride like that feels on a bike that basically puts you in a position to have much less power available because of your position.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zerort View Post
    Well, it seems that everyone who rides this bike loves the STA and that it climbs just fine. Maybe if you tried something different, you may like it.

    Because I buy about 4-5 bikes a year (and then sell them), if it climbs like shit tomorrow, I'll let everyone know. I'm not emotionally invested in any bike that I have bought except for my Norco Revolver which is the best bike I have ever ridden. I will never sell that bike............I have a feeling I will be pleasantly surprised.
    Quote Originally Posted by Harold
    You're doing mtbr wrong, you're supposed to get increasingly offended by the implications that you're doing ANYTHING wrong.

  32. #32
    Formerly of Kent
    Reputation: Le Duke's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Posts
    11,563
    Quote Originally Posted by Tickle View Post
    About 80% of what he said made no sense to me, the reason why he had the saddle slammed all the way forward, whaaa? It honestly sounds like he is making it all up just to rationalize the crazy geometry.

    The part where we only ride "rubbish" trails here in the US so we only ride rubbish bikes??? It's comical really. It's like a mutant where they are taking what works for DH and what works for XC and sticking them together on one bike.

    **edit- the slammed saddle part was from the review of the Pole not the article on Chris Porter. Wheelbase absolutely matters as far as how the bike feels and handles, when someone says they can't feel the long wheelbase in tight sections of trail I immediately stop listening
    Yeah, some of the statements he makes are just laughable.
    Death from Below.

  33. #33
    Orange Bikes USA Dealer
    Reputation: Zerort's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Posts
    1,340
    Quote Originally Posted by LyNx View Post
    Please don't forget to take it on some pedally trails, where you are in the saddle constantly pedaling, undulating and flat and don't just putz along like the modern trend, put some good effort into it, really hammer, don't just pedal to get the descents as your reward. Will be very interested to hear how a ride like that feels on a bike that basically puts you in a position to have much less power available because of your position.
    Lynx, do you read?

    You quoted 1/2 of what I said.

    I said the trail was 14 miles and I was going to time it - pending no one is in the way, and compare it to my time on the Norco.
    by Silentfoe
    I'm satisfied knowing that what I wear during my "day" job makes me more of a man than you'll ever be.

  34. #34
    WTF is downcountry?
    Reputation: Tickle's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2013
    Posts
    624
    Quote Originally Posted by Zerort View Post
    Lynx, do you read?

    You quoted 1/2 of what I said.

    I said the trail was 14 miles and I was going to time it - pending no one is in the way, and compare it to my time on the Norco.
    There's a reason why your Norco revolver is your fav bike

  35. #35
    WTF is downcountry?
    Reputation: Tickle's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2013
    Posts
    624
    the short stay E vangelists are not gonna like this

  36. #36
    mtbr member
    Reputation: LyNx's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Posts
    24,083
    Yeah, but I like to make sure I read correct and try to encourage the test Seriously, looking forward to someone who isn't just an adrenaline junky who climbs as slow as molasses on a cold day and doesn't care how long it takes to get to the top and never pedals anything rolling or flat, just once they get to bomb the down

    Quote Originally Posted by Zerort View Post
    Lynx, do you read?

    You quoted 1/2 of what I said.

    I said the trail was 14 miles and I was going to time it - pending no one is in the way, and compare it to my time on the Norco.
    Quote Originally Posted by Harold
    You're doing mtbr wrong, you're supposed to get increasingly offended by the implications that you're doing ANYTHING wrong.

  37. #37
    Orange Bikes USA Dealer
    Reputation: Zerort's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Posts
    1,340
    Quote Originally Posted by LyNx View Post
    Yeah, but I like to make sure I read correct and try to encourage the test Seriously, looking forward to someone who isn't just an adrenaline junky who climbs as slow as molasses on a cold day and doesn't care how long it takes to get to the top and never pedals anything rolling or flat, just once they get to bomb the down
    Well, there is really nothing to bomb on this trail. It's mostly flat, with short steep climbs. Probably 4-5 difficult climbs at most. The rest will come down to pedal efficiency.

    So when ridden with the Norco, I'm not taking my leisurely time. My best time is here is under 56 minutes. If the Pole can do it under 1 hour I'll be impressed.

  38. #38
    Orange Bikes USA Dealer
    Reputation: Zerort's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Posts
    1,340
    No ride report tonight - crack piston on rear caliper??

    All in 27 lbs.Everyone wants to ride my Pole-20170503_101932.jpg
    by Silentfoe
    I'm satisfied knowing that what I wear during my "day" job makes me more of a man than you'll ever be.

  39. #39
    mtbr member
    Reputation: RS VR6's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Posts
    5,490
    That's a great looking ride.

  40. #40
    bt
    bt is offline
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Posts
    1,433
    that seat looks like it could chop your dick off.

  41. #41
    Orange Bikes USA Dealer
    Reputation: Zerort's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Posts
    1,340
    Quote Originally Posted by bt View Post
    that seat looks like it could chop your dick off.
    You mean my Pole.

    Ok, ride report coming later. I grabbed a caliper off my other bike.

    Set multiple PRs in serious traffic.
    Everyone wants to ride my Pole-20170503_185811.jpgEveryone wants to ride my Pole-screenshot_20170503-193752.jpg
    Last edited by Zerort; 05-03-2017 at 06:03 PM.

  42. #42
    Orange Bikes USA Dealer
    Reputation: Zerort's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Posts
    1,340
    So how does it ride? Well it's hard to tell. As you can see I am 2 minutes slower than my best time. However, the trail was packed today. I must have passed 15 or more people and I had multiple cramps in each calf where I actually stopped pedaling for quite some time or was not clipped in the pedal. I think my seat was too low as well. In addition this trail is known for getting sandy. It was much more sandy than April 18, and a few parts had mud puddles that I drove around - nothing serious.

    Either way here is how I grade this bike:

    Flat pealing sections: A to A- (set some PRs here)
    Seated pedaling: A to A-
    Standing pedaling: B-
    Long steady climbs: A (actually set a PR on the long climb)
    Short steep climbs: B (I was tired by the time I hit the big one)
    Tight 90 degree turns: About the same as my Norco or any bike for that matter.
    Sweeping switchbacks A++++ This bike rails those, no questions asked. Fast AF!
    Steep technical rooty or rocky climbs: A Slow, but this bike does not spin out at all.
    Fit: A (I think I could do a large with a shorter stem possibly)
    Weight: B (27lbs does affect me over longer trails) For someone stronger it may not be a problem at all. I do not consider this a "race" bike, but a fast trail bike.
    Manauling or bunny hop: C- I could not get this beast off the ground
    Poppiness: A- I set the rebound in the middle setting. Felt nice.
    Oversteer: Yes, a bit, but not much
    Understeer: None. I could lean over very far and rail those Rocket Rons especially in the damp dirt. No fear of washing out
    Flickable: A- I'm sure the weight played a part here. But while I was moving it was decent.

    I think that about sums it up.

    Could I have beat my best time, yes quite possibly. I'll keep trying.
    Could I make it lighter - yes, for sure. How much should I spend?
    Could I get stronger and get use to the weight, yes, but not something I will be committed to doing.
    Will I keep it - yes absolutely.
    by Silentfoe
    I'm satisfied knowing that what I wear during my "day" job makes me more of a man than you'll ever be.

  43. #43
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Posts
    1,873
    So grades do you give your Revolver for the same areas?

  44. #44
    Orange Bikes USA Dealer
    Reputation: Zerort's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Posts
    1,340
    Quote Originally Posted by ashwinearl View Post
    So grades do you give your Revolver for the same areas?
    The Revolver gets A+ for everything other than standing pedaling traction. It gets a B-, but a lot could be resulting from rear tire choice.

    I would say it also does not turn as fast as the Pole on sweeping fast switchbacks.

  45. #45
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Posts
    296
    Did you have the chance to ride the bike a bit more in the past week? How was it?

    Thanks!

  46. #46
    Orange Bikes USA Dealer
    Reputation: Zerort's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Posts
    1,340
    Yes. I'm really enjoying this bike. It's obviously not a race bike due to the extra 5 or 6 pounds, but it rides beautifully and is comfortable on long hauls.

    My last ride on it was a quick paced 28 mile ride in varying conditions - downhill, climbs, dirt roads. I kept up with the other riders just fine. Most of them were on Specialized Epics.

  47. #47
    awesome
    Reputation: dblspeed's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Posts
    810
    Hi Zerotort, how is it going with the bike so far? Would you confirm your initial review? Are these long bikes really a big core workout on flat sections? Do you think the high front end would be an issue for short riders?

  48. #48
    Orange Bikes USA Dealer
    Reputation: Zerort's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Posts
    1,340
    Quote Originally Posted by dblspeed View Post
    Hi Zerotort, how is it going with the bike so far? Would you confirm your initial review? Are these long bikes really a big core workout on flat sections? Do you think the high front end would be an issue for short riders?
    I have ridden this bike probably more flat than climbs and it is not more of a work out versus any other bike.

    I set another PR on a very flat section. It is .5 miles with 0% elevation. According to Strava I did it in 1:42.
    Everyone wants to ride my Pole-choo-choo.png

    This placed me at 103 out of 1326 riders for the year and is faster than my times on my Norco Revolver which produced a best time of 1:45, 1:52, 1:53, etc.

    So this bike is not slow by any means. Over the 14 miles, I am faster on my Revolver, but certain sections I am still setting PRs on this bike.

    In regards to the high front end, I'm not quite sure it actually is high. It does not seem like I am higher on it, but I do not use any spacers wither.

    Also, I currently run a 130 mm Fox 34, but you could always run a 120 mm and set it down a tad.
    by Silentfoe
    I'm satisfied knowing that what I wear during my "day" job makes me more of a man than you'll ever be.

  49. #49
    awesome
    Reputation: dblspeed's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Posts
    810
    Thanks for sharing

  50. #50
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Posts
    214
    OP, I'm interested in hearing more of your experiences with the Pole as you get more mileage on it. I'm seriously wanting to get the evolink 140 but it's out of stock at the moment.

    For those wondering if it's possible to lift the front wheel on such a long bike, here is a clip of an evolink 140 being hopped up quite a large step. The guy makes it look easy lol. https://www.instagram.com/p/BSltx1UgoST/

  51. #51
    Orange Bikes USA Dealer
    Reputation: Zerort's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Posts
    1,340
    Hey, good timing. I just put 18 miles on it this morning on some very hilly technical trails.

    At first I was trying to stay with some pretty strong guys, but I got pretty spent. I also have a weird dull pain in my groin that im dealing with at this time.

    So I said the hell with that, I'm just going to have some fun.

    So after about 5 miles I stopped chasing them and had a blast railing berms and drops for the rest of the ride. This bike is so stable, and climbs very well.

    After we finished and met back up, I could tell they were exhausted from the pace and the pounding they took. I finished only 3 minutes or so behind them and was feeling great and could have gone another 10 miles.

    Best of luck getting one. I'm sure they are sold out for a reason.

  52. #52
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Posts
    214
    Are you in the US? I'd love to see one of these in the flesh. I'm in NC but according to Pole they haven't shipped any bikes to this part of the US.

  53. #53
    Orange Bikes USA Dealer
    Reputation: Zerort's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Posts
    1,340
    Yep, Michigan.

    I don't think there are but 2 or 3 in the states that I'm aware of.

    Maybe the 110 would work for you. I run a 130mm Fox up front.

  54. #54
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Posts
    214
    I already have 110 29er trail bike so wanted something with more travel to ride around Pisgah. Guess I'll have to be patient.

  55. #55
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Posts
    214
    Zerort, you mentioned it took a month to receive your bike. How was it shipped? I'm concerned that the swing-arm gets bent or deformed by careless courier handlers stacking heavy items on it on the box during shipping. Also did you pay any import duties when it arrived?

  56. #56
    Orange Bikes USA Dealer
    Reputation: Zerort's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Posts
    1,340
    Quote Originally Posted by trail-blazer View Post
    Zerort, you mentioned it took a month to receive your bike. How was it shipped? I'm concerned that the swing-arm gets bent or deformed by careless courier handlers stacking heavy items on it on the box during shipping. Also did you pay any import duties when it arrived?
    Hey.

    First off the bike comes folded. I guess to show you how the bike folds. Everything is wrapped and secured very well. Nothing was going to move or be damaged.

    Second, remember, this is a 9 lb. frame. It is not delicate.

    No import tax or duties. Shipping was $50 from Pole.
    by Silentfoe
    I'm satisfied knowing that what I wear during my "day" job makes me more of a man than you'll ever be.

  57. #57
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Oct 2015
    Posts
    37
    Beautiful bike Zerort. I recently finished building up my own after about a 3 month shipping delay ordeal. The delay had nothing to do with Pole, the shipping service in the US literally lost the bike. Pole eventually sent me another frame and refunded me the amount I originally paid for shipping for the first frame. They were nice and professional throughout the process.

    I have about 4 rides on the bike and I'm in love. It's an incredibly stable and confidence inspiring bike, don't think I'll ever go back to a bike with a shorter wheelbase or steeper HTA. Attached a few pics...
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails Everyone wants to ride my Pole-img_0964.jpg  

    Everyone wants to ride my Pole-img_0965.jpg  

    Everyone wants to ride my Pole-img_0966.jpg  


  58. #58
    Orange Bikes USA Dealer
    Reputation: Zerort's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Posts
    1,340
    Looks awesome.
    Yes, these bikes are very sweet. I'm very happy with the purchase.

  59. #59
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Posts
    214
    Looks awesome d3ftone. Is that the 140 or 170? How does the coil feel on it? Any bottoming out issues?

    There is relatively so little written about these bikes, it's hard to judge how they ride and how much more difficult it is if any to manual and bunny hop them. The few reviews also mention cornering is more 'difficult' or rather different and needs to be 'relearned'.

    How did you guys decide on bar height and width to compensate for the extra length? Leo from Pole seems to have his bars quite high with a lot of spacers under the stem while yours look much lower.

    I would love to hear more of your experiences as you get more mileage.

  60. #60
    Orange Bikes USA Dealer
    Reputation: Zerort's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Posts
    1,340
    I wouldn't bother with all that nonsense. There is nothing different about riding this bike than any other. Sure, you can weight the front end more to rip around some turns, but its not necessary. In fact, it's just natural.

    In regards to lifting the front end, I'd say it's not coming up easy, but after 2 rides, you figure you just need more input.

    My 110mm has never bottomed out. I'm sure the longer travel bikes are even better.

    As far as bar height - that was pre-determined for me as my Fox fork was cut too short to put any spaces under it (it came off my Knolly). The headtube is tall enough, so overall, it fit fine.
    by Silentfoe
    I'm satisfied knowing that what I wear during my "day" job makes me more of a man than you'll ever be.

  61. #61
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Posts
    214
    Thanks. Now if I could only get my hands on one. Still out of stock and no dates for new stock yet.

  62. #62
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Feb 2017
    Posts
    9
    Nice ride 3dftone! What frame size is that and how tall are you? Thanks


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

  63. #63
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Feb 2017
    Posts
    9
    Anyone else bought a Pole recently? Awfully quiet thread.


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

  64. #64
    Orange Bikes USA Dealer
    Reputation: Zerort's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Posts
    1,340
    Quote Originally Posted by soebauer View Post
    Anyone else bought a Pole recently? Awfully quiet thread.


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
    I can't imagine many people have even heard of the brand in the US.

    Also, people are afraid to put down their hard earned cash and buy something they have never seen or touched. And, I don't blame them.

    The other thing is the geometry of this bike freaks people out.

    They are getting popular in Europe, but I doubt you'll find people here buying them.

    I bought mine because it was so different and I had to try it.

  65. #65
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Feb 2017
    Posts
    9
    Makes sense. I just bought the 140 based on reviews and out of curiosity for the geometry, hoping it'll fit my 6ft4 frame better.
    Ordering without trying not much of an issue, as my current bike is a Canyon.
    Now waiting for all the parts to arrive so I can build it up!


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

  66. #66
    Orange Bikes USA Dealer
    Reputation: Zerort's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Posts
    1,340
    Quote Originally Posted by soebauer View Post
    Makes sense. I just bought the 140 based on reviews and out of curiosity for the geometry, hoping it'll fit my 6ft4 frame better.
    Ordering without trying not much of an issue, as my current bike is a Canyon.
    Now waiting for all the parts to arrive so I can build it up!


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
    Large or XL?

  67. #67
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Apr 2010
    Posts
    848
    I'm in a similar group. Interested as very little like it, yet the numbers freak myself out.

  68. #68
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Apr 2015
    Posts
    889
    This is on my list for the neat future but since I already have a Mondraker Crafty+ I am not sure that it would make sense to buy one.

  69. #69
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Feb 2017
    Posts
    9
    I ordered the 140 evolink and it still comes in L only. Have read in a post by Pole though that XL will follow soon. However, if you compare the Pole geo's across sizes you will realize that stack height does not change. That would have been the one benefit for me of an xl frame, could have less spacers then. Reach and wheelbase - more than enough on the L. Plus check out the Facebook Pole riders forum - lots of folks there my size, riding large frames and being super happy.


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

  70. #70
    mtbr member
    Reputation: RS VR6's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Posts
    5,490
    More I see the Pole the more I like it. For my next bike I think I'm going to consolidate my bikes into one. The Evolink 130 or an Evil Following are two high on the list.

  71. #71
    mtbr member
    Reputation: Toube's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2017
    Posts
    28
    Hi,

    I also got myself a Pole Evolink 150 L (27,5) Red frame custom built. Couple of rides in the trails and it's a very capable bike.. love it's climbing abilities. Happy with my Purchase

  72. #72
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Mar 2016
    Posts
    136
    How does the Evolink pedal?
    I'm thinking of getting an Evolink 110 or 130 as a marathon bike for a pretty gnarly local marathon race.

  73. #73
    mtbr member
    Reputation: Toube's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2017
    Posts
    28
    Quote Originally Posted by Losvar View Post
    How does the Evolink pedal?
    I'm thinking of getting an Evolink 110 or 130 as a marathon bike for a pretty gnarly local marathon race.
    Imo it climbs very well. I haven't got too much experience from other bike brands but the sitting position is very good so you can get a good amount of power to the legs. It can climb very steep hills pretty easy. I'm using a 40t + 34t shimano XTR drivetrain

  74. #74
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Mar 2016
    Posts
    136
    Quote Originally Posted by Toube View Post
    Imo it climbs very well. I haven't got too much experience from other bike brands but the sitting position is very good so you can get a good amount of power to the legs. It can climb very steep hills pretty easy. I'm using a 40t + 34t shimano XTR drivetrain
    It doesn't have a lot of pedal bob?
    I would prefer to have a more pedal efficient kinematic rather than relying on pedal platform on the shock.

  75. #75
    mtbr member
    Reputation: Toube's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2017
    Posts
    28
    Quote Originally Posted by Losvar View Post
    It doesn't have a lot of pedal bob?
    I would prefer to have a more pedal efficient kinematic rather than relying on pedal platform on the shock.
    Can't say how much pedal bob there is.. at least comparing to my old DH rig.. there is very little pedal bob compared to that

  76. #76
    mtbr member
    Reputation: Toube's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2017
    Posts
    28
    One thing is for sure.. my ride number four is behind me and goodness this bikes is magic on the trails, the uphill capability of this bike is really good.. and it likes speed also
    Imgur: The most awesome images on the Internet
    Imgur: The most awesome images on the Internet
    Imgur: The most awesome images on the Internet

  77. #77
    Elitest thrill junkie
    Reputation: Jayem's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Posts
    33,488
    Quote Originally Posted by Losvar View Post
    How does the Evolink pedal?
    I'm thinking of getting an Evolink 110 or 130 as a marathon bike for a pretty gnarly local marathon race.
    Some info here, use google translate: Pole Evo-Link 150mm 2016 - Linkage Design
    "It's only when you stand over it, you know, when you physically stand over the bike, that then you say 'hey, I don't have much stand over height', you know"-T. Ellsworth

    You're turning black metallic.

  78. #78
    Orange Bikes USA Dealer
    Reputation: Zerort's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Posts
    1,340
    As Toube has stated, the bike pedals very good seated. I switched to a 28T in front to eliminate most of any bob there was while standing that I felt with the 32T ring.

    To me the bike seemed it would bob with the 32T for the first few pedal strokes. With the 28T, it seems very efficient.

    My other bike is a Norco Revolver for reference - zero bob on that bike.
    by Silentfoe
    I'm satisfied knowing that what I wear during my "day" job makes me more of a man than you'll ever be.

  79. #79
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Aug 2017
    Posts
    9
    Evolink 110tr
    Large
    Fork is Yari 120mm
    Monarch rt on rear 110mm

    (Me, Riding yers 10, mostly mountainbiking on Finnish paths summer and winter. Sorry my bad english.)

    It may take a few driving a few times.
    I will have them at least ten and the bike will start to feel really good.
    At the beginning the steering felt strange in slow running, but now it is gone.
    It likes speed!
    But you can ride it slow too.



    Lähetetty minun SM-G903F laitteesta Tapatalkilla

  80. #80
    mtbr member
    Reputation: Toube's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2017
    Posts
    28
    Quote Originally Posted by samu.k View Post
    Evolink 110tr
    Large
    Fork is Yari 120mm
    Monarch rt on rear 110mm
    (Me, Riding yers 10, mostly mountainbiking on Finnish paths summer and winter. Sorry my bad english.)

    It may take a few driving a few times.
    I will have them at least ten and the bike will start to feel really good.
    At the beginning the steering felt strange in slow running, but now it is gone.
    It likes speed!
    But you can ride it slow too.
    Samu good looking that blue color, congrats on the bike.
    I had a friend of mine swap bikes so that he rode mine and I his bike. His immediate comment was "Damn this feels like you are just cruising in the woods, you can just enjoy the ride" His bike was a hardtail and the grip level wasn't too good on his bike so I can imagine the difference on the handling feel and grip levels.

  81. #81
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Posts
    214
    Hey guys. I hope everyone is out enjoying riding their Poles

    A couple of questions.
    Does the steep seat tube angle put you in a position more vertically over the bb so your knees are forward of the pedal axel? I'm concerned that this may cause knee issues in the long term?

    How are the linkage and swing arm bearings holding up?

    I'm flipping between the pole 140 and mojo nicolai geometron G16 with 29er wheels. Both similar in design philosophy. The G16 is a little more extreme than the pole 140.

    Can't test any of them here in the US unfortunately. I'm leaning toward to pole at the moment. Anyone hear ridden both that can comment?

  82. #82
    Orange Bikes USA Dealer
    Reputation: Zerort's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Posts
    1,340
    Quote Originally Posted by trail-blazer View Post
    Hey guys. I hope everyone is out enjoying riding their Poles

    A couple of questions.
    Does the steep seat tube angle put you in a position more vertically over the bb so your knees are forward of the pedal axel? I'm concerned that this may cause knee issues in the long term?

    How are the linkage and swing arm bearings holding up?

    I'm flipping between the pole 140 and mojo nicolai geometron G16 with 29er wheels. Both similar in design philosophy. The G16 is a little more extreme than the pole 140.

    Can't test any of them here in the US unfortunately. I'm leaning toward to pole at the moment. Anyone hear ridden both that can comment?
    No, your crank is placed just like any other bike. You are not pedaling with your feet behind your ass. There is no wanky positioning on this bike. You just sit in the middle of it.

    The linkage and bearings are serious duty. These will not need replacing for years if you are a casual rider.

    I might be selling my Medium in case anyone is interested. I think I might try out the new Evil following. But then again probably not. I cant imagine a better bike than this.

  83. #83
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Posts
    214
    What's making you think of wanting to sell already? You've only had it for a few months. Is it lack of playfullness and the way it rides?

    The Evil is quite a different bike so just wondered what's making you think about it.

  84. #84
    Orange Bikes USA Dealer
    Reputation: Zerort's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Posts
    1,340
    Quote Originally Posted by trail-blazer View Post
    What's making you think of wanting to sell already? You've only had it for a few months. Is it lack of playfullness and the way it rides?

    The Evil is quite a different bike so just wondered what's making you think about it.
    Not wanting to sell at all. Most of my trails are XC so the Pole get's ridden 25% of my time.

    I'm just curious about the Evil.
    by Silentfoe
    I'm satisfied knowing that what I wear during my "day" job makes me more of a man than you'll ever be.

  85. #85
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Oct 2015
    Posts
    37
    Quote Originally Posted by trail-blazer View Post
    Hey guys. I hope everyone is out enjoying riding their Poles

    A couple of questions.
    Does the steep seat tube angle put you in a position more vertically over the bb so your knees are forward of the pedal axel? I'm concerned that this may cause knee issues in the long term?

    How are the linkage and swing arm bearings holding up?

    I'm flipping between the pole 140 and mojo nicolai geometron G16 with 29er wheels. Both similar in design philosophy. The G16 is a little more extreme than the pole 140.

    Can't test any of them here in the US unfortunately. I'm leaning toward to pole at the moment. Anyone hear ridden both that can comment?
    You can run 29" wheels on the Geometron G16?

    And regarding your earlier questions, I'm 6' 3/4" and went with a large. Feels perfect. The Ohlins coil soaks everything up with ease and it feels like it has more than 140mm back there. The steep seat tube angle puts you in a perfect climbing position, feels completely natural, nothing to worry about there.

    I actually ended up picking up an XL Evolink 150 (can be ran with 27.5 or 29 wheels) that I'm going to be using for both the bike park and enduro type riding, so my Evolink 140 is for sale on pb right now.

    I'm sure you can't go wrong if you end up picking the Geometron or a Pole. Give the long wheelbase/super slack head angle/steep seat angle bikes a try, you won't regret it. I personally am not interested in "normal" bikes now.

    Good info here:
    #TheGeometryAffair: Does supersized geometry work for an average guy? | ENDURO Mountainbike Magazine
    #thegeometryaffair - Part 2, The Threesome | ENDURO Mountainbike Magazine

  86. #86
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Posts
    214
    Quote Originally Posted by d3ftone View Post
    You can run 29" wheels on the Geometron G16?

    And regarding your earlier questions, I'm 6' 3/4" and went with a large. Feels perfect. The Ohlins coil soaks everything up with ease and it feels like it has more than 140mm back there. The steep seat tube angle puts you in a perfect climbing position, feels completely natural, nothing to worry about there.

    I actually ended up picking up an XL Evolink 150 (can be ran with 27.5 or 29 wheels) that I'm going to be using for both the bike park and enduro type riding, so my Evolink 140 is for sale on pb right now.

    I'm sure you can't go wrong if you end up picking the Geometron or a Pole. Give the long wheelbase/super slack head angle/steep seat angle bikes a try, you won't regret it. I personally am not interested in "normal" bikes now.

    Good info here:
    #TheGeometryAffair: Does supersized geometry work for an average guy? | ENDURO Mountainbike Magazine
    #thegeometryaffair - Part 2, The Threesome | ENDURO Mountainbike Magazine
    Yes apparently now you can run 29" (with the appropriate fork of course) on the G16, although going hybrid 29 front 27.5 rear is supposed to work even better.

    Thanks for the links. I've read those articles and found them quite informative. I think I've pretty much read everything I can find on the Poles.

  87. #87
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Apr 2010
    Posts
    848
    Quote Originally Posted by d3ftone View Post
    You can run 29" wheels on the Geometron G16?
    Quote Originally Posted by trail-blazer View Post
    Yes apparently now you can run 29" (with the appropriate fork of course) on the G16, although going hybrid 29 front 27.5 rear is supposed to work even better.
    Or there is now this! 64˚ HTA 150mm 29er

  88. #88
    mtbr member
    Reputation: Toube's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2017
    Posts
    28
    Quote Originally Posted by trail-blazer View Post
    Hey guys. I hope everyone is out enjoying riding their Poles

    A couple of questions.
    Does the steep seat tube angle put you in a position more vertically over the bb so your knees are forward of the pedal axel? I'm concerned that this may cause knee issues in the long term?

    How are the linkage and swing arm bearings holding up?

    I'm flipping between the pole 140 and mojo nicolai geometron G16 with 29er wheels. Both similar in design philosophy. The G16 is a little more extreme than the pole 140.

    Can't test any of them here in the US unfortunately. I'm leaning toward to pole at the moment. Anyone hear ridden both that can comment?
    You can't go wrong with either the Nicolai or Pole.. both will do the job.
    I've now done 12 rides on my evolink 150 and I have already beaten my earlier record by 6min so it really pedals well on the trails.. haven't had any time to do any DH / Enduro on it yet but I'm convinced that it will rock them too
    No problems (squeezing or creaking) with links or bearings..so I don't think you need to worry about the bearings or the links.
    Just get one and be amazed!!

  89. #89
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Posts
    214
    Quote Originally Posted by PUNKY View Post
    Or there is now this! 64˚ HTA 150mm 29er
    Hmmmm, I didn't even see that on their site. But that price is just out of my budget for now. Maybe I get the frame, shock and fork and build it with less expensive components to get it closer to my budget, I really wish I could test ride one.

  90. #90
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Posts
    214
    Quote Originally Posted by Toube View Post
    You can't go wrong with either the Nicolai or Pole.. both will do the job.
    I've now done 12 rides on my evolink 150 and I have already beaten my earlier record by 6min so it really pedals well on the trails.. haven't had any time to do any DH / Enduro on it yet but I'm convinced that it will rock them too
    No problems (squeezing or creaking) with links or bearings..so I don't think you need to worry about the bearings or the links.
    Just get one and be amazed!!
    Good to know it pedals well. I'm was afraid that 140 or 150mm will bike it too much bike for the trails I ride during the week. My trails are 8-12miles of twisty wooden rooty narrow singletrack mostly flat. Every other weekend I head to the mountains where it's rough rocky and steep so it the bike would be perfect for that. I'm just concerned that the bike will feel tedious pedaling it around on the local trails as I will only have the one bike.

  91. #91
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Apr 2010
    Posts
    848
    Quote Originally Posted by trail-blazer View Post
    Hmmmm, I didn't even see that on their site. But that price is just out of my budget for now. Maybe I get the frame, shock and fork and build it with less expensive components to get it closer to my budget, I really wish I could test ride one.
    It's a Nicolai not a Mojo bike. It's a brand new 2018 release. If you go to the "Tech Sheet" in red bold lettering at the top you see "Embargo 30.08.2017" Likely isn't a frame only option yet.

  92. #92
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Posts
    10
    Here's some kind of test

    https://youtu.be/bEu54dpIDcc

    Sent from my E5823 using Tapatalk

  93. #93
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Posts
    214
    Quote Originally Posted by d3ftone View Post
    I actually ended up picking up an XL Evolink 150 (can be ran with 27.5 or 29 wheels) that I'm going to be using for both the bike park and enduro type riding, so my Evolink 140 is for sale on pb right now.
    d3ftone, your 140 looks great. Looks like you went through a few iterations on forks and wheels there. How does the 150 compare to the 140 on the trail? Does it pedal as well?

  94. #94
    mtbr member
    Reputation: Toube's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2017
    Posts
    28
    Quote Originally Posted by trail-blazer View Post
    Good to know it pedals well. I'm was afraid that 140 or 150mm will bike it too much bike for the trails I ride during the week. My trails are 8-12miles of twisty wooden rooty narrow singletrack mostly flat. Every other weekend I head to the mountains where it's rough rocky and steep so it the bike would be perfect for that. I'm just concerned that the bike will feel tedious pedaling it around on the local trails as I will only have the one bike.
    To me it sounds like the Evolink is just the bike you are looking for.. pedals well and you can use it as an all rounder even for DH parts

  95. #95
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Posts
    83
    Thanks for a great thread, Zerort! How do you find the handling of the Revolver after having ridden the Pole? The Norco has a long reach, and decent front centre for an xc bike, but the head angle is quite steep on paper. We always hear of long and slack, but I really wonder how the long and steep feels, especially compared to something with a slack head angle. I am really considering the Revolver as my xc bike next year so gathering experiences

  96. #96
    Orange Bikes USA Dealer
    Reputation: Zerort's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Posts
    1,340
    Quote Originally Posted by erik$ View Post
    Thanks for a great thread, Zerort! How do you find the handling of the Revolver after having ridden the Pole? The Norco has a long reach, and decent front centre for an xc bike, but the head angle is quite steep on paper. We always hear of long and slack, but I really wonder how the long and steep feels, especially compared to something with a slack head angle. I am really considering the Revolver as my xc bike next year so gathering experiences
    I feel more confident on the Pole. It just doesn't get upset over poor line choices. For XC racing the Norco is faster.

    For any trail riding, the Pole wins by far.

    I've recently just added an new 2018 Epic full suspension which has a slightly slacker HA than the revolver. That bike handles the downs very well and I feel better on it overall. However, I don't think it is as "fast" of a bike as my Revolver if that makes any sense. You can really tell the difference. The Epic shines because it is more comfortable which equates to me being less tired over long rides.

    So the slack head angle really helps descending - obviously.

    The detriment of the Pole for me is that it's another 5.5 lbs that I have to chug around versus the other two and I'm pretty sensitive to that weight. While it climbs just as good (and quite possibly better), the weight affects me over the long haul. This is easily seen in comparison of Strava times. I'm a minute or two slower over the same trails - roughly 8-14 miles.
    by Silentfoe
    I'm satisfied knowing that what I wear during my "day" job makes me more of a man than you'll ever be.

  97. #97
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Posts
    83
    Thanks for the answer!
    Not surprising at all that the Revolver feels like more of a handful after riding the slacker bikes, but good to hear some actual experiences. The "fast" comment is interesting and I think that is something one just feels when riding it. It probably also relates to personal preference. I rode an Epic 29 back in 2013 and it felt fast, but was not really comfortable, suspension wise, that is. Handling wise, it was one of the best I have ridden (at that time at least).
    I have a 29+ trail bike now so only looking for a flat out xc bike. Wondering about an RM Element as well and a Top Fuel, and I did consider the Epic at some point as well.

  98. #98
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Posts
    214
    Quote Originally Posted by Zerort View Post

    The detriment of the Pole for me is that it's another 5.5 lbs that I have to chug around versus the other two and I'm pretty sensitive to that weight. While it climbs just as good (and quite possibly better), the weight affects me over the long haul. This is easily seen in comparison of Strava times. I'm a minute or two slower over the same trails - roughly 8-14 miles.
    What does your 110 weigh? Did you do a burly build on that? This post on Pole's site shows a 110 built to 11.75Kg (~25lbs) which seems respectable for such a long alu bike and would think that it's not too far off the Epic.
    https://www.polebicycles.com/evolink-110-1175kg/

  99. #99
    Orange Bikes USA Dealer
    Reputation: Zerort's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Posts
    1,340
    Quote Originally Posted by trail-blazer View Post
    What does your 110 weigh? Did you do a burly build on that? This post on Pole's site shows a 110 built to 11.75Kg (~25lbs) which seems respectable for such a long alu bike and would think that it's not too far off the Epic.
    https://www.polebicycles.com/evolink-110-1175kg/

    My Epic and Revolver weigh 21.5 lbs. My Pole is 27 lbs + with light weight Rocket Rons, and no dropper post.

    The 110 on the site also uses a pretty light weight DT Swiss fork. I'm running a Fox 34.

    The medium frame alone is over 9 lbs. I don't think there are going to be many 110's being built that are going to come close to 11.75 KG. As soon as someone puts Maxxis tires, and a dropper, they are looking at 28 lbs and more. I think most builds will come in around 30 lbs.
    by Silentfoe
    I'm satisfied knowing that what I wear during my "day" job makes me more of a man than you'll ever be.

  100. #100
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Posts
    214
    Wow, didn't realize the new Epic is that light. I thought my old 2012 Scott Scale hardtail was light at 10.9Kg.

    TBH I don't pay that much attention to bike weights anymore, as long as they're not a boat anchor. In the last 5 years I've only ridden aluminum framed trail bikes which all seem to fall in the 13-14kg range.

    I can see that for XC riding/racing the extra weight would soon become tiresome.

  101. #101
    JB
    Reputation: Nevada 29er's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Posts
    369
    For a made in USA option, there's also the GG Smash 140mm 29er. It seems to tick the same boxes, except it has short stays, 429mm. Not sure how that affects the overall handling.

  102. #102
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Posts
    214
    For those in the US that have bought Poles, did you pay any customs duties and how much?

    Googling, I am struggling to find a definitive answer whether duty is due and the rate. I'm ready to place an order but want to know ahead of time what my final cost is going to be.

  103. #103
    Orange Bikes USA Dealer
    Reputation: Zerort's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Posts
    1,340
    No duty.

    What frame and size are you buying?

  104. #104
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Posts
    214
    Thanks. No duty sounds good. Hopefully that is the norm and not just a one off you got lucky situation.

    I'm ordering a large 140 Evolink.

  105. #105
    JB
    Reputation: Nevada 29er's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Posts
    369
    Kind of a long shot, but has anyone ridden both an Evolink and Geometron/Nicolai? The geometries are very similar, but not sure on suspension characteristics, etc.

    Kind of weird no XL in the Evolink 140, considering its available on the 130 and 150. Its supposed to be coming but not likely until next year.

  106. #106
    Elitest thrill junkie
    Reputation: Jayem's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Posts
    33,488
    Quote Originally Posted by trail-blazer View Post
    For those in the US that have bought Poles, did you pay any customs duties and how much?

    Googling, I am struggling to find a definitive answer whether duty is due and the rate. I'm ready to place an order but want to know ahead of time what my final cost is going to be.
    Linkage Design: Pole Bikes

    Nicolai ION-G13 29'' 2017 - Linkage Design

    There is information out there. As far as pedaling efficiency, the Nicolais are horst links that are moving towards higher and flatter anti-squat profiles. Older horst links with severe falling curves starting out at lower values were pretty poor climbers and some manufacturers(not many!), like nicolai, have been shifting towards higher and flatter curves, as seen above. A much bigger trend is to generally have around 100% AS throughout a significant portion of travel, for consistent pedaling effects. Significantly more, like 120%+, starts to interfere with the suspension, with old high-pivot bikes sometimes approaching 200%. The Pole on the other hand replicates an older horst-link profile, with about 80% anti-squat at the sag point and a steep falling curve after that, which is going to be fairly poor for efficiency. There's really nothing about the Pole linkage that would lend it towards good efficiency.

    As far as the shape of the leverage curve, the Pole appears to be optimized for an air shock, and the nicolai seems to be optimized for a coil (despite them putting an air shock on it, but there's at least one thread in the nicolai forum where a guy is trying to figure out why he can't use all his travel with an air shock, it gets too progressive). Efficient doesn't mean the manufacturer has nailed the bump-absorption characteristics or matched the shock tune, so there are variables that will affect how the bike rides, besides the anti-squat profile.
    "It's only when you stand over it, you know, when you physically stand over the bike, that then you say 'hey, I don't have much stand over height', you know"-T. Ellsworth

    You're turning black metallic.

  107. #107
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Posts
    214
    Any Pole 140 owners try a fork with a smaller offset than 51mm? Chris Porter at Mojo swears by smaller offsets for 29ers being better. Transition now with their new range are going on about the smaller offset fork too.

    I wondering what and if there will be any real noticeable difference between at fork with 51mm or 44mm offset on the Pole Evolink 140.

  108. #108
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Sep 2014
    Posts
    55
    I have Evolink 150 with Öhlins RXF34, which has the 46 mm offset. I have used 2 other forks with the bike, DVO Diamond 27,5 and MRP Stage 34 29. MRP had offset 51 and DVO was with 44 mm offset. With smaller offset it is little bit easier to weight the front, but the differense is quite small.
    And by the way it pedals really well with either air or coil shock. It hardly bobs at all even I am currently running it with Öhlins coil shock.
    It is my trail bike and it is perfect for that kind of riding.

  109. #109
    Orange Bikes USA Dealer
    Reputation: Zerort's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Posts
    1,340
    Quote Originally Posted by trail-blazer View Post
    Any Pole 140 owners try a fork with a smaller offset than 51mm? Chris Porter at Mojo swears by smaller offsets for 29ers being better. Transition now with their new range are going on about the smaller offset fork too.

    I wondering what and if there will be any real noticeable difference between at fork with 51mm or 44mm offset on the Pole Evolink 140.
    My 2018 Specialized Epic has a 42mm offset. The thing just wants to wash out all the time in slower type turns.

    My Evolink has a 51mm Fox and it handles great. Leo from Pole recommends this offset.

  110. #110
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Apr 2015
    Posts
    889
    Most probably you forget a minor detail. That there is absolutely no similarity between an Epic and an Evolink! I would suggest reading a little about trail and how it is affected by the head angle, the offset etc.

    Having said that I have a 44 fork in a Mondraker Crafty and one of my friends has the same exact bike (even the size) with 51. I have ridden both and the 44 offset makes the bike more stable while the 51 is a little more twitchy.

    Here are both bikes. You can easily see the difference in the offsets.

    Everyone wants to ride my Pole-photogrid_1505657994659.jpg

    Everyone wants to ride my Pole-img_20170917_1427071.jpg

    And another one with the same tires to eliminate this factor also. We even have the same height, weight etc.

    Everyone wants to ride my Pole-screenshot_20170805-212438.jpg

    Pole most probably suggests a 51 offset to make the steering quicker due to the really slack head angle, wheel size and overall length of the bike.

    Chris Porter on the other side has a different opinion and the same applies to the Transition guys but at the end it is a matter of personal preference and experience.

  111. #111
    Orange Bikes USA Dealer
    Reputation: Zerort's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Posts
    1,340
    Quote Originally Posted by gpgalanis View Post
    Most probably you forget a minor detail. That there is absolutely no similarity between an Epic and an Evolink! I would suggest reading a little about trail and how it is affected by the head angle, the offset etc.
    No need to read. I own both bikes so I am well aware of the difference.

    The example was given as a reference how offset affects handling.

    Not sure why you need to slow down the steering anymore when you already have a head angle of 64.5 degrees.

    But if it works for you - go for it.
    by Silentfoe
    I'm satisfied knowing that what I wear during my "day" job makes me more of a man than you'll ever be.

  112. #112
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Posts
    214
    Not having ridden anything as slack or long as the Pole, I have no reference of how slow or quick the steering is going to be.

    I know from reading Chris Porter's views and reading the comments in the geometron thread that short offset seems to be the way to go for their geometry which is similar to the Pole but with even kslacker HA.

    I don't think I'd mind slower steering as it allows you to thread the bars between trees on tight trails but how slow would it be? Is there likely to be a huge difference?

    I know tat which ever I go for would feel weird because I'm also adapting to the Pole's geometry but I'd prefer to get it right first time if I can.

  113. #113
    Orange Bikes USA Dealer
    Reputation: Zerort's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Posts
    1,340
    I would stick with what the owner of Pole recommends. 51mm

    I'm sure Leo has tried various offset forks during his testing.

    You could even read some Facebook threads in the Pole riders group or ask the question there.

    Those people are building and riding Poles. Relying on what Cris Porter says seems silly IMO. He's discussing a completely different bike.

  114. #114
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Posts
    214
    How long did it take to receive your Pole after it was shipped? The tracking says it was processed through the Helsinki facility on Wednesday and is on it's to the destination country but no update since then. It was sent via EMS which use USPS as their agent in the US. USPS tracking doesn't show any updates either so was wondering if this was normal.

  115. #115
    Orange Bikes USA Dealer
    Reputation: Zerort's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Posts
    1,340
    Quote Originally Posted by trail-blazer View Post
    How long did it take to receive your Pole after it was shipped? The tracking says it was processed through the Helsinki facility on Wednesday and is on it's to the destination country but no update since then. It was sent via EMS which use USPS as their agent in the US. USPS tracking doesn't show any updates either so was wondering if this was normal.
    Mine took forever. I know it was over a month, and I want to say it was close to 2, but I can't recall exactly.

    I actually thought it was lost somewhere but it did show up eventually.

    They need to choose a different shipping method.

    Hang in there, it will show up.
    by Silentfoe
    I'm satisfied knowing that what I wear during my "day" job makes me more of a man than you'll ever be.

  116. #116
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Posts
    214
    What? That's crazy. Was yours sent by the same method? EMS mail service using Posti on the Finnsh side and USPS on the US side.

    I wish I knew that before they shipped. I would have paid to have it sent by another method.

  117. #117
    Orange Bikes USA Dealer
    Reputation: Zerort's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Posts
    1,340
    Quote Originally Posted by trail-blazer View Post
    What? That's crazy. Was yours sent by the same method? EMS mail service using Posti on the Finnsh side and USPS on the US side.

    I wish I knew that before they shipped. I would have paid to have it sent by another method.
    Yes, same method. It was very aggravating.

    And Pole became a little unresponsive too which made it even more difficult.

    But, like I said, it did turn up.
    by Silentfoe
    I'm satisfied knowing that what I wear during my "day" job makes me more of a man than you'll ever be.

  118. #118
    mtbr member
    Reputation: GreenCowman's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2016
    Posts
    102
    It looks like the 2018 Evolinks (as well as the new full CNC frames) should be out soon, Pole has been teasing them a lot. Sounds like the Evolink frames will stay about the same, and the CNC frames will be the exact same geo and suspension kinematics as the current frames.

    Personally I think the CNC frames aren't nearly as pretty as the "normal" frames, but I guess I'll have to wait and see how the finished frames look. I'm planning on getting an Evolink 140 sometime this winter so I'm excited to see the new stuff!

  119. #119
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Apr 2015
    Posts
    889
    The 140 is great but I would like to see a 160 in 29er format.

  120. #120
    mtbr member
    Reputation: GreenCowman's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2016
    Posts
    102
    Quote Originally Posted by gpgalanis View Post
    The 140 is great but I would like to see a 160 in 29er format.
    Pole did mention in their teaser post of the new CNC'd frames that the first bike in that line is going to be a "superenduro" bike. Not sure if that really means anything but it could be something with a bit more travel. I know they have been playing around a lot with putting 29er wheels on the 150 so I wouldn't be surprised.

  121. #121
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Apr 2015
    Posts
    889
    I have also asked them a couple of months ago and they said that something good is coming. I guess we will have to wait and see!

  122. #122
    JB
    Reputation: Nevada 29er's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Posts
    369
    You can run the 150 with 29 wheels, raises the BB, but some might prefer that in chunky terrain. They're saying the 2018s will be out in Feb.

  123. #123
    mtbr member
    Reputation: GreenCowman's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2016
    Posts
    102
    Well the new frames have been announced, looks like and ETA of March. Still no geo charts yet but they are on the Pole Store site. The new 158 29er looks like it could be really cool, gonna be hard for me to decide between the 140 and the 158, will have to wait to see the geo of the 158. Preorder deals are really good too, around $1900 for a frame is great.

  124. #124
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Apr 2015
    Posts
    889
    I was looking their 158 on the site and not only there is no geo chart but also the description is from the 150!

  125. #125
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Posts
    214
    Looks like the new evolinks come with rear mud guards. They mention new cable routing and more space for a bottle. I don't think there will be any geo changes to the evolinks. The 158 is stating a 42mm fork offset for a 29er. I'm not sure if that is a type or not. Based on my discussions with Leo, he was still of the opinion that 51mm offset was right for the 29er and his frame geo.


    Perhaps the new machined frames may have slight geo changes but I don't think that they'll be much different from the evolink. The main thing about the machine frame is that it's lighter and compete with carbon. Not sure how much stiffer if at all it will be than the evolink frames.

    I was on the fence about waiting for the new frames or ordering a 140 now but when they told me it would be Mar for the new frames and that would be for a more aggressive model initially, I decided to pull the trigger on the 140. I also wanted to see what the production version of the frame looked like and what the feedback was first.

  126. #126
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Apr 2015
    Posts
    889
    I am really curious about the CNC bikes. The 500 euros discount if you preorder is a great incentive but I would most probably wait and see all the details first.

  127. #127
    JB
    Reputation: Nevada 29er's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Posts
    369
    I'm in!! Just preordered a 140 XL. Was also considering a G15/16 Geometron and GG Smash, but the price is significantly higher for the Geometron and wasn't sure about the short stays on the Smash. I figure if I'm going to try the new school geo I go all in.

    Price came out just over $2,000 for the frame which includes shipping, not too bad. Can't wait to give it a go. Thinking of a 150 DVO Diamond fork to pair with it.

  128. #128
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Posts
    214
    How tall are you Nevada? Did you get any figures for the reach of the XL? I too was considering the Geometron / Nicolai but the cost was too high for me at this time.

    I've been flipping back and forth on a MRP Ribbon or Lyrik with Luftkappe for my 140. Haven't really considered the DVO as I heard mixed opinion on how easy it was to get dialed.

    BTW, when it comes time to shipping, I would suggest you look into having it shipped via UPS/Fedex or equivalent. For some reason the frames get stuck in US customs (we assume) for ages when shipped by EMS, their current shipper. Been waiting over two weeks for my frame since it left Finland. Have an open case with USPS to find out where it has got to. They seem to think it's in customs. I think Fedex would have it cleared much quicker.

  129. #129
    JB
    Reputation: Nevada 29er's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Posts
    369
    I'm 6'6". No numbers published for the XL yet, but both the 130 and 150 XLs have a reach of 535, so I assume it will be right in that neighborhood.

    Good to know on the shipping, I'll have to look into that when the time comes. I've always heard USPS was best for international shipping, but maybe UPS is an option.

  130. #130
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Posts
    214
    Quote Originally Posted by Nevada 29er View Post
    I've always heard USPS was best for international shipping, but maybe UPS is an option.
    I think there is something weird going on with customs. My stuff from Germany has also just vanished off the radar. Last was it left from Frankfurt airport over 10 days ago. That was sent DHL which use USPS as their local delivery agent. I don't know if USPS are slow to get things cleared through customs or that it's stuck in some corner in a customs warehouse and hasn't even been handed over to USPS yet. But this has been the worse and slowest experience I've had with importing things from Europe. Normally my stuff is at my door within 6-7 days when ordering from the German sites or Chain Reaction.

    Back on topic. Anyone tried internal routing for their dropper? Does the cable exiting from the bottom of the seat tube interfere with the shock? It looks like it's going to be really close unless you put quite a sharp kink in the cable. Not many options with external routed droppers. The Fox Transfer looks the best but I don't like that it's not user serviceable. Had too many problems with KS droppers so don't want to go there.

  131. #131
    JB
    Reputation: Nevada 29er's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Posts
    369
    Yeah, I don't know. It literally took like 2 months to get my Works headset from England. I guess the hamsters that power the boats are overworked and under fed..

    Kinda bums me out when I can't find certain parts (or frames) from US based companies.

  132. #132
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Sep 2017
    Posts
    8
    Just placed the order for the 2018 Evolink 140 TR in XL. Will be a loooong wait to March

  133. #133
    mtbr member
    Reputation: Sid Duffman's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2015
    Posts
    502
    question for you Pole owners: how difficult is it to fold it up and re-assemble. Do you often put it in the trunk to drive to the trailhead, or is it too much of a pain to fold/unfold for every trip?

  134. #134
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Posts
    214
    Haven't received my frame yet but judging from the videos it looks fairly simple and quick. Also depends on whether you need to remove the wheels too to get it in your car.

    I know from experience that I soon got tired of having to remove the front wheel to get my bike into the back of my car and went and got a rack instead.

  135. #135
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Oct 2012
    Posts
    70
    In case people haven't seen it yet, the geo for the 158 is up in the Pole store (scroll down to the bottom of the page).

    https://polebicycles.com/polestore/p...r-29-pre-sale/

    The XL looks huge, 535mm reach at a stack height if 652mm, shorter riders might have an issue with this height, it's the same across all sizes.

  136. #136
    JB
    Reputation: Nevada 29er's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Posts
    369
    I'm wondering why the ST is so short on the XL. Considering the people on this bike will be 6'3" plus, why put a 19" ST on it? Standover is never an issue on any modern bike. I will have to get a 175mm dropper to have a chance of getting the seat out of the way at the height it will need to be for seated climbing. 500mm should be min for an XL frame, which the other manufacturers seem to have figured out.

  137. #137
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Oct 2012
    Posts
    70
    Quote Originally Posted by Nevada 29er View Post
    I'm wondering why the ST is so short on the XL. Considering the people on this bike will be 6'3" plus, why put a 19" ST on it? Standover is never an issue on any modern bike. I will have to get a 175mm dropper to have a chance of getting the seat out of the way at the height it will need to be for seated climbing. 500mm should be min for an XL frame, which the other manufacturers seem to have figured out.
    Warning: there are many double entendre in this post.

    Depending on the dropper you are using and it's minimum insertion requirements the relatively short seatpost insertion figure on the XL of 250mm (I'm taking this to be the max insertion) somewhat compounds this issue (short seat tube with the shock running through it limits the amount of post you can get into it).

    I was looking at getting a 9point8 200mm dropper; however, with a total length of 560mm it will probably be too long. A 175mm LS Lev with a length of 490mm should go close (not sure what the minimum insertion for this post is).

    Other than the seat tube length / insertion issue it looks pretty good.

    Interestingly the geo table seems to be based off a 170mm fork (581mm atc) but the kit mentions a 160mm.

  138. #138
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Dec 2012
    Posts
    207
    Thinking about ordering a 158 29er frame this weekend. Worried about warranty issues since I broke 2 mondraker foxy rear ends in less than a year. I want it to replace my Mondraker Summum Pro dh bike that I ordered (the frame) and built here in Canada.

  139. #139
    Orange Bikes USA Dealer
    Reputation: Zerort's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Posts
    1,340
    You should look up Peter Taylor on the Pole FB page. I think you would have a hard time breaking that bike.

  140. #140
    mtbr member
    Reputation: GreenCowman's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2016
    Posts
    102
    First pic of the CNC frame built up is out

    Everyone wants to ride my Pole-22802672_499122500475170_7550375523650633728_n.jpg

    Personally I really respect the innovation behind it and think it's a sick idea, but I'm just not a fan of the looks at all. I love the angular look of the normal Evolink frames, kinda wish they just kept those lines for the CNC frame.

  141. #141
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Apr 2010
    Posts
    848
    That looks pretty slick. I like it.

  142. #142
    mtbr member
    Reputation: GreenCowman's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2016
    Posts
    102
    I really want to like it, but something about the curvy seatstays and top tube just looks off to me. The close ups on all that machined goodness look amazing though, that I can get behind.

  143. #143
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Apr 2010
    Posts
    848
    Haven't seen any machined goodness up close. Why the external dropper? /:

  144. #144
    mtbr member
    Reputation: Sid Duffman's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2015
    Posts
    502
    Quote Originally Posted by Gvus2001 View Post
    First pic of the CNC frame built up is out

    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	22802672_499122500475170_7550375523650633728_n.jpg 
Views:	407 
Size:	73.1 KB 
ID:	1164509

    Personally I really respect the innovation behind it and think it's a sick idea, but I'm just not a fan of the looks at all. I love the angular look of the normal Evolink frames, kinda wish they just kept those lines for the CNC frame.
    My first reaction when I saw that pic was "ugh, that's ugly." But I gotta admit, it's kinda growing on me. Where is that pic from?

    Also, I'm trying to figure out the longest dropper post I could get into the frame and something seems off on the geometry chart online. For the Evolink 158, if you look at the where the 'bottom' of the seat tube is by taking the seat-tube length and subtract the seat tube insert length, it is highest for the small frame (280mm above the bottom bracket). Compared to 240mm for the M, and 220mm for the large. That trend seem backwards to me.

  145. #145
    mtbr member
    Reputation: GreenCowman's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2016
    Posts
    102
    Pic is from Pole's Instagram. And for droppers that's something I'm trying to figure out too, Leo runs a 150mm fox transfer and it sounds like that can just barely be slammed in a large frame. I'd really like to run a 170mm+ post when I eventually get one of these. I'm leaning towards the 185mm bikeyoke revive, as it's insert length is not much longer than that of a 150mm transfer. The 170mm e13 dropper might work too as it's insert length isn't too long.

  146. #146
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Posts
    214
    Finally received my Evolink 140 frame. I was pleasantly surprised at how nice it was. Lokks much nicer in the flesh than the photos. Now just waiting for the parts to arrive so I can start building. Still got to make a decision on the fork. Flipping between the MRP Ribbon, Lyrik and as an outsider the DVO Diamond.

    On the topic of the new machined frame. When I first saw that photo of the built up bike my initial thought was that someone had broken its back lol. The way the top tube swoops down into that parabolic curve and the way the seat tube and head tube seem to converge above it just looks like the bike was crushed from above.

    After seeing the photo a few more times it's starting to grow on me though. Will need to see a few more angles.

  147. #147
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Feb 2017
    Posts
    9
    I have the bikeyoke 185 on my large Evolink 140 and totally love it. Fits really well, and is super smooth and easy to install. I am 192cm tall with a 93cm inseam. The internal routing works fine, I use cable ties to ensure the cable housing doesn’t touch the shock.





    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

  148. #148
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Posts
    214
    Quote Originally Posted by soebauer View Post
    I have the bikeyoke 185 on my large Evolink 140 and totally love it. Fits really well, and is super smooth and easy to install. I am 192cm tall with a 93cm inseam. The internal routing works fine, I use cable ties to ensure the cable housing doesn’t touch the shock.






    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
    That's good to know as I am considering the Bikeyoke dropper too. I'm 188cm. How much of the post do you have sticking out above the top of the seat tube? I'm on a large frame too.

  149. #149
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Sep 2017
    Posts
    8
    Quote Originally Posted by soebauer View Post
    I have the bikeyoke 185 on my large Evolink 140 and totally love it. Fits really well, and is super smooth and easy to install. I am 192cm tall with a 93cm inseam. The internal routing works fine, I use cable ties to ensure the cable housing doesn’t touch the shock.





    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
    Great to hear that you can fit the 185 mm dropper in the size L frame. I´m 193cm and have just ordered the “new” Evolink 140 in XL and have changed the dropper for the 185 mm. I did some fast calculations and came to the conclusion that it should work so it reassuring to read that it fits perfect for you.

    Is that 27,5+ wheels? How does the Evolink feel in that configuration?

  150. #150
    mtbr member
    Reputation: Sid Duffman's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2015
    Posts
    502
    Put in a pre-order for a M 158 frame, so stoked, but it's gonna be a looooong 5-6 month wait. Oh well, it'll give me ample time to sell the wife on the need for another bike.

    The dropper post issue is tricky on this frame. I seem to limited to a 125mm post on a M or L frame. This article has some useful measurements of many different droppers: Vital MTB Face Off: The Best Dropper Seatposts - Mountain Bikes Feature Stories - Vital MTB

    9point8 is another to check out if you're struggling with dropper fit.

  151. #151
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Feb 2017
    Posts
    9
    Quote Originally Posted by trail-blazer View Post
    That's good to know as I am considering the Bikeyoke dropper too. I'm 188cm. How much of the post do you have sticking out above the top of the seat tube? I'm on a large frame too.
    Sticks out some 6-7cm


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

  152. #152
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Feb 2017
    Posts
    9
    Quote Originally Posted by rikhal View Post
    Great to hear that you can fit the 185 mm dropper in the size L frame. I´m 193cm and have just ordered the “new” Evolink 140 in XL and have changed the dropper for the 185 mm. I did some fast calculations and came to the conclusion that it should work so it reassuring to read that it fits perfect for you.

    Is that 27,5+ wheels? How does the Evolink feel in that configuration?
    Those are 29” wheels. Newmen 35mm inner width aluminium rims with 2.6” Nobby Nics APEX. Works pretty well, at least for the local trails in Singapore.


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

  153. #153
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Apr 2010
    Posts
    848
    Quote Originally Posted by Sid Duffman View Post
    9point8 is another to check out if you're struggling with dropper fit.
    The FallLine posts are internally adjustable for travel length. I put a 170mm in my Longer G16 frame and the post is barely above the collar.

  154. #154
    JB
    Reputation: Nevada 29er's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Posts
    369
    ^^ The G16 has a straight ST, no? It should fit in that frame fine.

  155. #155
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Dec 2012
    Posts
    207
    Quote Originally Posted by Sid Duffman View Post
    My first reaction when I saw that pic was "ugh, that's ugly." But I gotta admit, it's kinda growing on me. Where is that pic from?

    Also, I'm trying to figure out the longest dropper post I could get into the frame and something seems off on the geometry chart online. For the Evolink 158, if you look at the where the 'bottom' of the seat tube is by taking the seat-tube length and subtract the seat tube insert length, it is highest for the small frame (280mm above the bottom bracket). Compared to 240mm for the M, and 220mm for the large. That trend seem backwards to me.
    Talked to Lauri,

    that and the other Instagram picture is actually their new super enduro frame 180 bike that will have pre sale launched at the end of November.

  156. #156
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Apr 2010
    Posts
    848
    Quote Originally Posted by Nevada 29er View Post
    ^^ The G16 has a straight ST, no? It should fit in that frame fine.
    Yes. But I'm ~175cm and ~82cm inseam. 165mm cranks.
    It's easier to subtract 10mm from the 170mm 9point8 than it would be to add 10mm to the 150mm post.

  157. #157
    JB
    Reputation: Nevada 29er's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Posts
    369
    Quote Originally Posted by trail-blazer View Post
    Finally received my Evolink 140 frame. I was pleasantly surprised at how nice it was. Lokks much nicer in the flesh than the photos. Now just waiting for the parts to arrive so I can start building. Still got to make a decision on the fork. Flipping between the MRP Ribbon, Lyrik and as an outsider the DVO Diamond.

    On the topic of the new machined frame. When I first saw that photo of the built up bike my initial thought was that someone had broken its back lol. The way the top tube swoops down into that parabolic curve and the way the seat tube and head tube seem to converge above it just looks like the bike was crushed from above.

    After seeing the photo a few more times it's starting to grow on me though. Will need to see a few more angles.
    T-B, can you give us a ride report?

  158. #158
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Posts
    214
    Quote Originally Posted by Nevada 29er View Post
    T-B, can you give us a ride report?
    Will do but it won't be until late December now as I couldn't finish the build before leaving for business trip and then vacation.

  159. #159
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Dec 2012
    Posts
    207
    Pulled the trigger today on the 158 29er in blue size large. Now just waiting 5 months to get it.

  160. #160
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Oct 2012
    Posts
    70
    Geo is up for the new 180 / 160 Machine 29er.

    https://polebicycles.com/machine-geometry/

    Shorter CS at 445, and a longer seat tube on the Large and XL, when compared to the Evolinks.

    EDIT: the shorter CS could be a typo on the website. The change in wheelbase between the Machine and the 158 suggests that the CS is not materially shorter than the 158.

  161. #161
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Nov 2012
    Posts
    41
    Hi There! Is there anybody here from Canada who own a Evolink or G16? If so, have you paid duties/taxes? And for people who bought a Pole bike from oustide Finland did you get the Finland tax off the price?

  162. #162
    mtbr member
    Reputation: GreenCowman's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2016
    Posts
    102
    Quote Originally Posted by Welric View Post
    Hi There! Is there anybody here from Canada who own a Evolink or G16? If so, have you paid duties/taxes? And for people who bought a Pole bike from oustide Finland did you get the Finland tax off the price?
    I've heard from some people in the U.S. that shipping from Pole is $50 and there are no taxes, or import fees, so I imagine it would be similar for Canada. I'd like to hear what shipping/ taxes is for Nicholai, the G15 looks interesting to me.

  163. #163
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Dec 2012
    Posts
    207
    I have ordered 3 mondraker frames over the last few years, never got bagged for anything. I am hoping it will be the same with my Pole. Canada Customs seems to pick and choose what gets hit or not.

  164. #164
    mtbr member
    Reputation: rollertoaster's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Posts
    1,176
    I've been riding an evolink 140 for a couple months. This bike is what I've been looking for in a bike. Before I got it i was fed up with the geometry on "normal" bikes and was about to give up and buy a dirt bike. I love slack bikes but slack seat angles and cramped cockpits have been bothering me for years.
    I just pre-ordered a Machine frameset on Friday...

    Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk
    Team _________

  165. #165
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Nov 2012
    Posts
    41
    Lots of good feedback on the 140. What about the evolink 158? Same bike, more travel?

  166. #166
    mtbr member
    Reputation: Sid Duffman's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2015
    Posts
    502
    Quote Originally Posted by Welric View Post
    Lots of good feedback on the 140. What about the evolink 158? Same bike, more travel?
    158 hasn’t been released into the wild yet. Expected delivery in April 2018 (I preordered one; gonna be a loooong wait!)

    But yeah, other than the slightly slacker head tube angle and slightly longer wheelbase, the geometry looks almost identical to the 140. So I would expect, as you said, same bike with more travel.

    No info (that I could find) on the website about if the kinematics are different between the two bikes.


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

  167. #167
    mtbr member
    Reputation: rollertoaster's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Posts
    1,176
    Quote Originally Posted by Sid Duffman View Post
    158 hasn’t been released into the wild yet. Expected delivery in April 2018 (I preordered one; gonna be a loooong wait!)

    But yeah, other than the slightly slacker head tube angle and slightly longer wheelbase, the geometry looks almost identical to the 140. So I would expect, as you said, same bike with more travel.

    No info (that I could find) on the website about if the kinematics are different between the two bikes.


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
    I would expect the kinematics to be similar to the 150, which according to the leverage charts Leo has posted on fb yesterday, are optimized for an air shock. Compared to the machine, the 150 the machine has less of a hook at the end of the travel. That hook is to help squeeze the last little bit of travel out of an air can.

    This is purely speculation that the leverage curve will match the 150. It's possible that the kinematics are modeled after the machine.

    Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk
    Team _________

  168. #168
    SISSIF
    Reputation: TheCanary's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2014
    Posts
    526
    Quote Originally Posted by rollertoaster View Post
    I've been riding an evolink 140 for a couple months. This bike is what I've been looking for in a bike. Before I got it i was fed up with the geometry on "normal" bikes and was about to give up and buy a dirt bike. I love slack bikes but slack seat angles and cramped cockpits have been bothering me for years.
    I just pre-ordered a Machine frameset on Friday...

    Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk
    The Machine looks amazing! Curious if you would share your dimensions and the frame size you ordered?
    The Geo is out there enough to make it difficult to compare to my current ride.
    Thanks.
    Big Wheels and Fat Skis keep me young.

  169. #169
    mtbr member
    Reputation: rollertoaster's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Posts
    1,176
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCanary View Post
    The Machine looks amazing! Curious if you would share your dimensions and the frame size you ordered?
    The Geo is out there enough to make it difficult to compare to my current ride.
    Thanks.
    6'2" 188lbs 35" cycling inseam. No idea how long my arms are. I ordered a large and I'm currently on a large evolink 140 with a 160 fork and 50mm stem.

    Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk
    Team _________

  170. #170
    SISSIF
    Reputation: TheCanary's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2014
    Posts
    526
    Quote Originally Posted by rollertoaster View Post
    6'2" 188lbs 35" cycling inseam. No idea how long my arms are. I ordered a large and I'm currently on a large evolink 140 with a 160 fork and 50mm stem.

    Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk
    Great. Thanks.
    5' 11" with 34" inseam. Thinking medium with a long dropper would be spot on.
    Big Wheels and Fat Skis keep me young.

  171. #171
    mtbr member
    Reputation: rollertoaster's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Posts
    1,176
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCanary View Post
    Great. Thanks.
    5' 11" with 34" inseam. Thinking medium with a long dropper would be spot on.
    Don't be affraid to step out of your comfort zone. My teammate is about the same size as you (maybe slightly shorter legs), he's looking to get a large

    Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk
    Team _________

  172. #172
    SISSIF
    Reputation: TheCanary's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2014
    Posts
    526
    Yeah, tough call. Down sizing on the Wreckoning because it was such a 'Big' bike was a mistake. The Machine is another big bump up, 5' 11"(180cm) puts me right on the line between sizes.
    Looking for accurate numbers, I've seen chainstay lengths from 445 to 456 and wondering if there is different lengths for different sizes.
    Big Wheels and Fat Skis keep me young.

  173. #173
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Sep 2013
    Posts
    2
    Leo is on a m+ size don’t know when that is released but I’ll wait for that

  174. #174
    SISSIF
    Reputation: TheCanary's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2014
    Posts
    526
    What are Leo's dimensions?
    Big Wheels and Fat Skis keep me young.

  175. #175
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Posts
    114
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCanary View Post
    What are Leo's dimensions?

    I'm 178cm and was thinking about going for the large frame 158 as I usually ride a large in everything else. I asked Pole what they would recommend, and both Leo (179cm) and Juhani Kettunen (Pole ambassador, height 180cm) prefer the medium over the large frame. Also the Pole homepage recommends sizing down when between sizes. So I took their advice and ordered a medium 158.

  176. #176
    SISSIF
    Reputation: TheCanary's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2014
    Posts
    526
    Yep. Hemmed and hawed, feel pretty good going for the medium Machine.
    Big Wheels and Fat Skis keep me young.

  177. #177
    mtbr member
    Reputation: Toube's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2017
    Posts
    28
    Hi,
    I'm a owner an Evolink 150 L size frame. I'm 183 cm tall and I got the bikeyoke 125 installed on it. Pole recommended me the Link size frame.

    Br,
    Toube

  178. #178
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Dec 2012
    Posts
    207
    Ordered a 158 to replace my Mondraker Summum DH bike. Got a SC Tallboy 3 this summer and I see the future with 29 wheels.

    Going to use it at my local bike park. It comes with a Monarch Plus RC3 but I am thinking about going to a Fox DHX air. Anyone upgrade their frame with Pole?

  179. #179
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Nov 2016
    Posts
    12
    any thoughts about the stack height on the 158 being too high? it is 13mm higher than the 140 which is already high

  180. #180
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Posts
    114
    It's measured with a longer fork than the 140. It is probably totally ok. If you like a low front end you can always use a negative rise stem and/or a flat bar. Usually I put all the spacers under the stem anyways, and most other riders i meet on the trail do the same. I think a higher stack is not a problem unless you are fairly short.

  181. #181
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Nov 2016
    Posts
    12
    Thanks, if I am understanding you correctly you are still raising the stem? How does this effect flat corners?

  182. #182
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Posts
    114
    Yes and no. I do raise the stem on my bikes, but I don't have a Pole. I have ordered a 158 , and it will possibly arrive in early spring. There are a lot of bikes with high stacks, and I have never heard owners complaint about it. Stumpjumper, camber, guerilla gravity, all have high stacks. Evil Wreckoning is one of the most hyped and highly praised LT bikes, and it has a similar stack to the 140-158, and I have never heard anybody complaint about the stack. You can always to a degree remedy a too high stack. I do not think it will be a problem on the Pole either unless you are short or you just hate high stack bikes.

  183. #183
    JB
    Reputation: Nevada 29er's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Posts
    369
    Any updates on the anticipated delivery dates for the 140 XLs? I preordered back in November.

  184. #184
    mtbr member
    Reputation: Sid Duffman's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2015
    Posts
    502
    Quote Originally Posted by Nevada 29er View Post
    Any updates on the anticipated delivery dates for the 140 XLs? I preordered back in November.
    You probably have already seen this, but the Pole website says approx delivery date in April 2018. I'm guessing that means May, best case scenario, for those of us in the US.

    I pre-ordered a 158 in November and the waiting is killing me!

  185. #185
    SISSIF
    Reputation: TheCanary's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2014
    Posts
    526

    Delivery of The Machine

    Yep. The Machine delivery has been steadily pushed back. Not unexpected with the design and production being so unique. The big descents don't open around here till July, hoping to have it ready by then.
    Big Wheels and Fat Skis keep me young.

  186. #186
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Sep 2017
    Posts
    8
    Quote Originally Posted by Nevada 29er View Post
    Any updates on the anticipated delivery dates for the 140 XLs? I preordered back in November.
    I preprdered my 140 XL in the end of October. And then the delivery date was set to March. I have asked Pole about the delivery and they told me that the first preorder bunch will be shipped during the last week in March.

  187. #187
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Dec 2012
    Posts
    207
    Quote Originally Posted by rikhal View Post
    I preprdered my 140 XL in the end of October. And then the delivery date was set to March. I have asked Pole about the delivery and they told me that the first preorder bunch will be shipped during the last week in March.
    Just got the email, March became April and it has become May.

  188. #188
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Apr 2015
    Posts
    889
    This is disappointing.

  189. #189
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Dec 2012
    Posts
    207
    yep,

    It is going to be my bike park ride so the hill here does not open until the end of may. If it was to be my only ride, I would not be very happy at all.

    dave

  190. #190
    mtbr member
    Reputation: Sid Duffman's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2015
    Posts
    502
    I pre-ordered a 158, but the repeated delays made me wonder if it was ever going to come. So I decided to get a refund and ordered a transition Sentinel. Bummed because i’m sure the Pole would’ve been sweet, but also really excited for the Sentinel!


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

  191. #191
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Posts
    114
    I'll stick with my order for the 158 for now. A delay seems to be the norm for bike preorders. Many companies won't even give you a date for preorders since they don't know when they can deliver. Let's just hope that there will not be any more delays from now on. I bet the Sentinel is a sweet ride. Was considering it but wanted to go the extra mile with a long travel two niner.

  192. #192
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Dec 2012
    Posts
    207
    I am sticking with my 158 order as well. The only other frame I thought of getting was the RAAW Madonna but they did not ship to Canada.

  193. #193
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Dec 2012
    Posts
    207
    Another delay, this time until May 25th.

  194. #194
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Posts
    114
    Yeah that sux. Not really a problem for me yet since there is still a meter or more of snow on the trails. But it is getting seriously close to the date I have set where I need to find a new bike and cancel my Pole. For ppl living South of the arctic circle I can understand they are getting frustrated.

  195. #195
    Here, diagonally!
    Reputation: JACKL's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2011
    Posts
    2,098
    I don't think I've ever seen a new bike product release on time. Whatever the expected remaining wait time is, just double it.

    I'm looking for an XXL bike and 158 sure does look interesting. Checks most of the boxes, but not a fan of a falling AS curve, at least based on FSR bikes I've ridden. May end up being a non-issue with the Evolink, but buying one without being able to demo would be quite the leap of faith.

  196. #196
    SS in CO
    Reputation: Jayson44's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Posts
    601
    two questions:

    1.) does anyone have an Evo 130 yet? if so, what do you think about it? same sort of positive reviews as the 140?

    2.) anyone in Colorado have an Evolink yet? I'd love to see/sit/ride one in person at some point.

    J.
    are you a bike shop owner? or a custom builder? I want to talk to you about your website

  197. #197
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Dec 2012
    Posts
    207
    Anyone get a new email saying their frames have shipped?

  198. #198
    SISSIF
    Reputation: TheCanary's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2014
    Posts
    526
    Hoping to have a Machine in CO this summer.
    Being patient...
    Big Wheels and Fat Skis keep me young.

  199. #199
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Sep 2014
    Posts
    55
    They seem to have some demo days in US. Check from their web-site where and when. At least one location was in Colorado and another one in Utah.

  200. #200
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Posts
    114
    Quote Originally Posted by depeche4 View Post
    Anyone get a new email saying their frames have shipped?
    According to Pole. The first evolink 140 v1,3 was shipped to customer last week. They have pics of the 158 on their facebook. So some of the bikes seem to have arrived in Finland. I got an email where they say they will probably have an update on delivery on thursday this week.
    As i understand it the first batch was shipped by air to Finland.

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. What would you do? Pole
    By Finch Platte in forum Off Camber (off topic)
    Replies: 27
    Last Post: 11-18-2015, 09:26 PM
  2. Saturday's Ride ... Bobcats fighting on Power Pole / Limekiln
    By ancient rascal in forum California - Norcal
    Replies: 4
    Last Post: 06-15-2014, 01:25 PM
  3. An Antartic bike ride unassisted to the South Pole
    By coastkid71 in forum Fat bikes
    Replies: 338
    Last Post: 06-02-2014, 09:09 PM
  4. Christini 2wd Fat Bike for South Pole ride
    By shanesbw in forum Fat bikes
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 04-12-2013, 01:28 PM
  5. Pole Hill
    By dutchman59 in forum Colorado - Front Range
    Replies: 10
    Last Post: 10-10-2011, 10:42 PM

Members who have read this thread: 87

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

THE SITE

ABOUT MTBR

VISIT US AT

© Copyright 2020 VerticalScope Inc. All rights reserved.