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    Epic comp vs Stumpy comp HELP !!

    I'm having a heck of a time deciding which 2012 29er to Purchase.
    Have ridden them both extensively just need some more input as to which
    bike to purchase. Plan on racing this bike entry level here in colorado with my first race being in April.

    I love the speed of the epic and the color scheme.
    I love the auto sag feature on the stumpy and the fact that I have a little more travel.

    I just dont know if alot of people race stumpys. HELP !!

    In addition to racing/recreation this bike will be used as a form of transportation to go to work.

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    Epic.

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    What about the Camber?
    I have not been on one yet but the geometry/travel is in between the Epic and Stump

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    If you're going to focus on racing, get the Epic. It's the right tool for the job. If you're only racing a few times a season and going to be out just riding, I'd go with the Camber. A friend of mine is looking at getting his first 29er and after he tried my Epic he thought it was like cheating. But after riding the Epic and the Camber back-to-back yesterday, he was more comfortable with the (slightly) higher front end of the Camber. As far as the Stumpy goes, unless you're riding really chunky, steep technical trails, it's overkill IMO. The Stumpy (and bikes like it) is very fun in the right situation, but it's a lot of bike to pedal around. Another friend of mine bought a Stumpy recently and he's thinking of selling it and getting an Epic or a Camber because his local trails don't really allow the bigger bike to get into its "sweet spot."

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    go whit the stumpjumper ht and then you can youse some of the money you saved by not bying the epic on Lighter wheels and other upgrades. or go whit the comp carbon it`s still cheaper then the epic on that bike you will have 400 Dollar to youse on lighter wheels or you have saved some money. I have the Comp carbon 29er and love it(i have not changed the wheels yet and it still fell really fast when i accelerate. it`s 23,35 ibs out of the box(whit pedals).and it is whit a wheels set on about 3.75 ibs(1,7 kg) you can get under 22 ibs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2TurnersNotEnough View Post
    If you're going to focus on racing, get the Epic. It's the right tool for the job. If you're only racing a few times a season and going to be out just riding, I'd go with the Camber. A friend of mine is looking at getting his first 29er and after he tried my Epic he thought it was like cheating. But after riding the Epic and the Camber back-to-back yesterday, he was more comfortable with the (slightly) higher front end of the Camber. As far as the Stumpy goes, unless you're riding really chunky, steep technical trails, it's overkill IMO. The Stumpy (and bikes like it) is very fun in the right situation, but it's a lot of bike to pedal around. Another friend of mine bought a Stumpy recently and he's thinking of selling it and getting an Epic or a Camber because his local trails don't really allow the bigger bike to get into its "sweet spot."
    That pretty much nailed it.

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    Like the other guy said, if your racing get the Epic. If you want a bike that does everything on a trail well get Stumpy.

    The Stumpy is not alot of bike to pedal around, it is about same weight as the Camber in the comp model at just over 29 pounds.
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    HT or FSR?

    Quote Originally Posted by Norwayrider View Post
    go whit the stumpjumper ht ...
    Ah, here you go OP, I think everybody except mebbe this norwegian thinks you are talking about a choice between Stump FSR and Epic. But there is a Stump hardtail. Which is very XC racy.

    I owned a Stump FSR. Unless the racing you are talking about is Super D, I don't think of it at all as a race bike. I found mine to be a big sluggish mushy climber but a very capable technical descending bike.

    If I were looking at another Specialized bike, it would be the Camber as others are saying. If I was looking at a race bike for XC, Epic (or Stump Hardtail). Race bike for endurance, Camber.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enel View Post
    That pretty much nailed it.

    Race: Epic
    Trail: Stumpy
    ^^^ This sums it up perfectly^^^

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    I have a Stumpy FSR 29er Expert, 27.5 pounds. I can hang with the guys on the hardtail 29er's no problem. Then smoke em on the chunky down hill stuff. Most of the trails I ride are full of roots and big logs to clear. I like having the extra travel and slacker HT gives me much more confidence and much more fun. I am 44 years old and tried a rigid SS, could not see the fun in it AT ALL. So it sits on the trainer. The stumpy FSR 29er is my do it al bike I can race once or twice a year and have tons of fun on the rest of the time. If you compare side by side, you will see how small and flimsy looking the shock is on the Epic, the rear DO is smaller, the wheels are flexier, the fork is smaller and no Though Axle. I'm only 160 lbs and could feel the flex in the Epic. The Epic IS faster feeling on the climbs but I could not justify the slightly lighter feel for the flexyness.

    But Hey, to each their own. I like to jump off stuff whenever I see it. I take the trail that says "harder". I like to push the bike to the limits. Some people just want to ride fast and avoid all the big roots and bumps. I just charge right into the stuff on my Stumpy. I'm not out to win any races, I just lke to ride to have the most fun possible. If your a play it safe and go fast kina guy get the Epic. If your a rebel and a risk taker and do crazy stuff, get the Stumpy FSR 29er. If your somewhere in between get the Camber. Also don't forget about all the other Long travel 29er bike coming out on the market, like the Kona satori.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mojoman View Post
    I have a Stumpy FSR 29er Expert, 27.5 pounds. I can hang with the guys on the hardtail 29er's no problem. Then smoke em on the chunky down hill stuff. Most of the trails I ride are full of roots and big logs to clear.
    It has alot to do with what is in the engine. The local Santa Cruz Bikes sponsored pro rider can ride this 2000 feet in 3 miles uphill climb on his santa cruz bullit (7" travel, 30+ pounds) faster than all of us on our light weight hardtail. He does it a alot too.

    I am in the same boat as the OP. Deciding between the Stumpy FSR and the Epic.

    Well, many of you mentioned a few races a year on the stumpy FSR is ok, that had me for a while. But then someone mentioned mushy pedaler, and that is my main concern... Is this with the brain or without it?

    I am a very strong climber, and like to stand and hammer (pick this technique up from single speed). If the goal is not to enter a few races a year, but to at least podium on some of them, would the epic be a better option over the stumpy? I just remember my demo on an epic and how much i felt held back on the rock garden compared to another 5" AM FS 29er demo-ed that day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loll View Post
    It has alot to do with what is in the engine. The local Santa Cruz Bikes sponsored pro rider can ride this 2000 feet in 3 miles uphill climb on his santa cruz bullit (7" travel, 30+ pounds) faster than all of us on our light weight hardtail. He does it a alot too.

    I am in the same boat as the OP. Deciding between the Stumpy FSR and the Epic.

    Well, many of you mentioned a few races a year on the stumpy FSR is ok, that had me for a while. But then someone mentioned mushy pedaler, and that is my main concern... Is this with the brain or without it?

    I am a very strong climber, and like to stand and hammer (pick this technique up from single speed). If the goal is not to enter a few races a year, but to at least podium on some of them, would the epic be a better option over the stumpy? I just remember my demo on an epic and how much i felt held back on the rock garden compared to another 5" AM FS 29er demo-ed that day.
    FYI Standing and hammering is not the best way to pedal any FS bike. If need to put it in pro pedal and do it. The Stumpy is far from mushy, I would take everyone's opinion with grain of salt, even mine.

    I test rode the 12 stumpy carbon comp fsr 29, carbon expert fsr 29, ibis slr, Mach 429 and yeti asr5 c. I choose the expert carbon FSR 29 because I felt it was the best to me and for me.
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    I was just comparing the Camber, Epic, FSR all 29ers. The big difference that pushed me towards the FSR is that it comes with a 20mm Thru Axle and a beefier rear end. The brain works great for me. I can stand and hammer on climbs and I don't notice as much bob as was on my DW link mojo.
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