• 02-01-2010
    SlowerThenSnot
    3 Attachment(s)
    Ecosse (mega bling content)
    Inspired by the ECOSSE Heretic with intricate machining of Grade-5 (6Al4V) titanium billets: head tube, bottom bracket and rear dropouts.
    Logos carefully machined into the titanium – no stickers.
    Hand worked: tube fitment, TIG welded, finished.
    “2nd Moment of Inertia” design principle used throughout – means an oversize look (not overweight) and a significant increase in strength, stiffness and torsion.
    All mountain durability at cross country weight:
    Large size weighs 3.25 to 3.5 lbs depending on customer’s desired riding style.
    Spectacular head tube (your words not mine) designed around Cane Creek’s top-line 110 ZS headset.
    Integrated rear “post-mount” caliper mounting, built around Formula’s R1 brake caliper, eliminates extra brackets for increased response and performance.
    Replaceable 7075-T6 aluminum rear derailleur hanger.
    Designed for technical trail riding, yet perfectly at home cruising the concrete jungle.
    Available in standard sizes or as a complete custom fit (quoted per requirements).

    This is a super limited edition thing only like 25 are being made....

    They make motorcycle's mainly http://www.ecossemoto.com/
  • 02-01-2010
    Vlad
    I'm not feeling it.
  • 02-01-2010
    AZ
    I dont even want to know what it costs . That thing is a work of art .
  • 02-01-2010
    MABman
    Those brown rings by the welds look very sketchy.
  • 02-01-2010
    SlowerThenSnot
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by MABman
    Those brown rings by the welds look very sketchy.

    these photos were shot after welding pre-polishing of the frame... the guy who weld's these, welds the frames for 120k titanium motorcycles so wouldn't be to worried
  • 02-01-2010
    Broccoli
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SlowerThenSnot
    the guy who weld's these, welds the frames for 120k titanium motorcycles so wouldn't be to worried

    I write and sell 120k software. Tell me it does not have bugs.. ;)

    Nice frame.
  • 02-02-2010
    20.100 FR
    Beautiful.

    But oversize tubes, being more thin, are more prone to dents. Yes, even titanium. They should correct this marketing gimlick.

    I like the postmout in the rear
  • 02-02-2010
    Ryan G.
    "All Mountain durability at Cross Country weight"

    Whole thing reeks of marketing desperation. Dropouts are interesting.
  • 02-02-2010
    chuckc1971
    I know I can't afford it, but are there any other details available? Like geometry? Fits how large a tire? How about a better picture of the brake mount? Geared only I assume?

    I've never cared much about motorcycles, but I think one of those would be in my lottery purchase queue.
  • 02-02-2010
    Schultz29
    You just can't get a break on this forum. No matter what you post at least half or more of the responses will be negative. Personally, I think it's beautiful. The rear drops, head tube and BB are amazing. I'd love top see more photos and a frame price.
  • 02-02-2010
    ~martini~
    I agree. Too many arm chair engineers/critics/wanna be's.

    I'd love to see more[and better/bigger] pics. I wanna see the disc mount.
  • 02-02-2010
    MendonCycleSmith
    Tough crowd.

    At least it's not another, "tell me I'm cool because I just bought a Vassago, do you think BB7's would be okay for a 29er, will this tire make my bike look fat?" Post.:p

    More pics dude. Love ti, and that's obviously a machinist's exercise in how cool can I make a bike (and no, there's nothing wrong with that...). A few close ups are good, but we like to get the bigger picture as well. Agreed as well, less marketing massage fluff, more geometry, tire fit, built dirty pics, etc etc. You know, the truly salient features:thumbsup:
  • 02-02-2010
    jmw
    I'm digging the machined logos
  • 02-02-2010
    SlowerThenSnot
    when Don
    Sends me more pics i'll post them...

    I think they are looking for 5400 on this run of 25... I guess they are working with i-9, fourmula, sram, rockshox on some custom done parts, if 5400 for the frame isn't spendy enough

    i've got the picture as big as mtbr well allow :)

    Yup you post anything on mtbr and 1/2 the responses well be negative... Thought it was interesting and different enough to post on here...And no twisted downtubes (fugly!) I've Hung with Don In denver alot ether over coffee and or whiskey....Cool cat who enjoys playing with Titanium & carbon fiber
  • 02-02-2010
    cruso414
    it's pretty and unique but waaaaayyy outta my price range. I don't have that in my whole Lynskey (ugly twisted downtube and all).
  • 02-02-2010
    SlowerThenSnot
    why outa most people's league but still fun to dream.....
  • 02-02-2010
    rockcrusher
    sexy. I love the detailing on the post mount especially. A pretty girder fork with matching detailing would be the cat's pajamas and to underline this: more pictures please.
  • 02-02-2010
    Minimalist
    IMO opinion this is more art than a bike. :thumbsup: Even if I had the money I don't think I would ride the bike much.
  • 02-02-2010
    Moval49er
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SlowerThenSnot
    Yup you post anything on mtbr and 1/2 the responses well be negative... Thought it was interesting and different enough to post on here...And no twisted downtubes (fugly!) I've Hung with Don In denver alot ether over coffee and or whiskey....Cool cat who enjoys playing with Titanium & carbon fiber

    As an old CNC guy myself, gotta say that is beautiful, and is likely to stay that way when it's dirty. Please do bring more details as they develop. Carbon, Ti, coffee, whisky - all elements of a successful MTB life style.

    Thanks for posting:thumbsup:
  • 02-02-2010
    jbflyfshr
    I like it, same old story, never have it though.

    Oh well
  • 02-02-2010
    banks
    I might have 2 sold. :D
  • 02-02-2010
    Schultz29
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SlowerThenSnot
    Yup you post anything on mtbr and 1/2 the responses well be negative... Thought it was interesting and different enough to post on here...And no twisted downtubes (fugly!)

    Well that sucks! I express and appreciation for the bike the OP is presenting us and then my bike recieves an unprovoked insult. What a deelightful place this is. :bluefrown:
  • 02-02-2010
    azjonboy
    Beautiful looking bike. The detail on the headtube and disc mounts is cool. For the detail, grade of Ti and the time it takes to do that, $5400 is not out of line.
    If it rides like it looks, way cool. Curious as to what size tire will clear?
  • 02-02-2010
    Broccoli
    Is there no brake brace between chain and seatstay?
  • 02-02-2010
    driver bob
    No engineering or CNC experience but just asthetically it's HAWT imo.

    The Headtube detailing is beautiful.
  • 02-02-2010
    bikeny
    You could buy a Jones Ti Spaceframe for that price! There is a lot more work that goes into one of those, and I'm sure it rides much nicer. It's also made buy a cool guy who lives and breathes mountain bikes!

    Please discuss!
    Mark
  • 02-02-2010
    SlowerThenSnot
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by bikeny
    You could buy a Jones Ti Spaceframe for that price! There is a lot more work that goes into one of those, and I'm sure it rides much nicer. It's also made buy a cool guy who lives and breathes mountain bikes!

    Please discuss!
    Mark

    Curvy tubes are soo 2005 :D

    Haven't ridden a jones so can't comment or one of these... way outa my league....
  • 02-02-2010
    SlowerThenSnot
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Schultz29
    Well that sucks! I express and appreciation for the bike the OP is presenting us and then my bike recieves an unprovoked insult. What a deelightful place this is. :bluefrown:


    just my preffance.... the twisted downtube is artsy and different just not my cup of tea...
  • 02-02-2010
    stevereeneo
    Scoty ...
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by banks
    I might have 2 sold. :D

    ... you've GOTTA be the king of bling don't you? :D

    S
  • 02-02-2010
    driver bob
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SlowerThenSnot
    Curvy tubes are soo 2005 :D

    Haven't ridden a jones so can't comment or one of these... way outa my league....

    Just like a supermodel, I'll never have either a Jones or the Ecosse but I can still really appreciate both of them for being jaw-dropping.
  • 02-02-2010
    C88
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by baycat
    Whole thing reeks of marketing desperation.

    That's my overall impression of Ecosse motorcycles. Something for the Robb Report crowd.
  • 02-02-2010
    Broccoli
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SlowerThenSnot
    just my preffance.... the twisted downtube is artsy and different just not my cup of tea...

    From what I understood, titanium frames that had added disk brakes, but no frame brace, had issues with rear brake performance, due to twisting. Why is not this an issue here? Just curious.. Since we are discussing bike frames here..

    It sure is pretty.
  • 02-02-2010
    azjonboy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Curmy
    Is there no brake brace between chain and seatstay?

    None required. I've had 3 custom Ti frames, none with braces, and all stopped admirably!
  • 02-02-2010
    frdfandc
    WOW, love the head tube machine work.
  • 02-02-2010
    None
    I gotta say it...LOOKS FLEXY!
  • 02-02-2010
    srbeck
    What is the geometery?
  • 02-02-2010
    Yogii
    I want mine with a 200hp motor!
  • 02-02-2010
    Stahr_Nut
    Cool headtube..............check!
    Cool bottom bracket......check!
    Cool machined graphics..check!
    Cool rear dropouts.........check!

    Not so cool TT/ST/SS junction....sorta check, need to see a better pic.

    Way uncool price tag....check!
  • 02-02-2010
    Monte
    Cool idea, machined head tube and such, but pricey. Once the cnc programming is done, it's a yawner to put out those parts.
  • 02-02-2010
    cross4
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by MABman
    Those brown rings by the welds look very sketchy.

    Sketchy..... Are you kidding me. Do you have a clue about what a weld should look like? Those are very nice welds. Please get a basic understanding of welding before you become a critic.
  • 02-03-2010
    schnee
    I love the subtle details around the BB shell, head tube, and post mounts. Way more character than most frames, without getting fancy or precious. Dig it.

    It needs a super-clean build-out. Gotta do it justice.
  • 02-03-2010
    Futon River Crossing
    Those welds are lovely.

    At least with a Jones - you get a truss fork as well :) Personally - I'd rather pay for the functionality of the Spaceframe, than the decoration on the details. Beautiful frame though!
  • 02-03-2010
    FoShizzle
    wow, that thing is badazz suh-not! and all at that fancy schmancy technical mumbo jumbo you typed makes my weiner tickle! I dont know what it means so it must be rad! more pics suh-not
  • 02-03-2010
    PoorBehavior
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by MendonCycleSmith
    Tough crowd.

    At least it's not another, "tell me I'm cool because I just bought a Vassago, do you think BB7's would be okay for a 29er, will this tire make my bike look fat?" Post.:p
    :

    WHOA!!! Hold on now, I seriously resemble that comment and want to make it clear that my tires do NOT make my bike look fat.

    I, Sir, Have been offended.
  • 03-17-2010
    SlowerThenSnot
    2 Attachment(s)
    A few shots of some builds they are doing...
    blingy
  • 03-17-2010
    DFYFZX
    Not diggin the builds. Too techy for the sheer elegance of the frame. Too cluttered or something. Can't put my finger on it...
  • 03-17-2010
    Broccoli
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by DFYFZX
    Not diggin the builds. Too techy for the sheer elegance of the frame. Too cluttered or something. Can't put my finger on it...

    You want a titanium truss fork, H-bars and probably single speed.

    Something along the lines:

  • 03-18-2010
    Ghostrider
    Just waiting for the “that’s a lot of seatpost” remark that seams to be on every thread these days.
    I was waiting for the “looks flexy” but it was already said.
  • 03-18-2010
    Ghostrider
    Amazing stuff on the site. Funny you can get a custom motorcycle built in less time then a custom MTB frame.
  • 03-18-2010
    Schultz29
    Since it's out there, I'll give my lame opinion for what it's worth. It's definitely a beautiful frame. The engraved headtube, drop-outs, welds and machined BB are pretty slick. However, none of that stuff really warrants a $5,400 price tag. Not to mention the builders main focus is custom motorcycles. I would wonder what kind of warranty expectations you could have from a company who only built these as an experiment? I know building bike frames isn't rocket science but I'd rather put my trust in builders like Lynskey, Moots, Indy Fab, etc. when it comes to building me what I want. Those builders have amassed a level of experience that's hard to duplicate with only a short run of 25 frames. For $5,400 for a frame set, any one of those aforementioned builders could build you something pretty outrageous and you'd still have a little money in your pocket. Those builders are also likely to be in business long after Ecosse has forgotten about bicycles.
  • 03-18-2010
    sean salach
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SlowerThenSnot
    Curvy tubes are soo 2005 :D

    Haven't ridden a jones so can't comment or one of these... way outa my league....

    And bad tribal dragon tattoos are soo 1996. :thumbsup:

    It's a nice looking frame, but I'm not seeing any art there.
  • 03-18-2010
    cbrock450
    Great Guy
    I don't have that kind of cash but i remember Don when he had his motorcycle shop on larimer square in denver and if he is as passionate about bicycles as he is motorcycles then i bet they are going to be incredible!!

    His target market is probably none of us but if he can make these bikes and sell them... more power to him!!!

    Everyone probably laughed at his expensive motorcycle at first, wonder who is laughing now??
  • 03-18-2010
    Schultz29
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by cbrock450
    His target market is probably none of us but if he can make these bikes and sell them... more power to him!!!

    Everyone probably laughed at his expensive motorcycle at first, wonder who is laughing now??

    You're probaly right. I suspect the target market for these bikes are the very rich who are more motorcycle enthusiasts than bicycle riders. The kind of guy who has all the best toys but just displays them in his awesome toy museum.
  • 03-18-2010
    Ghostrider
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Schultz29
    You're probaly right. I suspect the target market for these bikes are the very rich who are more motorcycle enthusiasts than bicycle riders. The kind of guy who has all the best toys but just displays them in his awesome toy museum.


    I use my stuff but I would still like an awesome toy museum :) .
  • 03-18-2010
    cbrock450
    The only place you would probably spot one of these is on a bike path in a gated community setup as a hybrid.
  • 03-18-2010
    jjcools
    So many haters with so little game. Take it easy folks, that is some nice craftmanship no matter how you look at it.

    Very nice bike and the builds are respectable. I could never afford it but some may just want something that is a limited run, I am sure it rides nice also. I hope at least, no shop demos that is for sure.

    Oh and I forgot, seat tubes are lame, just ride the seat posted to the frame, problem solved.
  • 03-18-2010
    wannabeRacer
    nice moto's there and another nice Ti frame but for the price you're almost Mr. Jones ;)
  • 03-18-2010
    big_slacker
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Schultz29
    You're probaly right. I suspect the target market for these bikes are the very rich who are more motorcycle enthusiasts than bicycle riders. The kind of guy who has all the best toys but just displays them in his awesome toy museum.

    Ecosse motorcycles are more for cruising in LA and showing how rich you are. Which isn't to say they never get ridden, they're just impractical as a sportbike/track bike. People that own them have other toys to flog at the track.

    Probably the same with this frame. Its not gonna be a workhorse, but a showpiece. Because if you wanted a daily/training Ti ride there are better ways to go.

    This isn't haterism BTW, people can buy what they want. 5k for the frame, call it 3k for components. 8k is well within toy reach for a lot of folks. Not exactly baller status. :D