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    Drawback to 29er, new riding partners attribute your awesome riding to the bike

    I rode a rocky section of trail that someone else didn't and the assumption was that my big wheels did the work for me. I want all the credit I can get. (please read with a dry, semi sarcastic tone, I just read the 'What now' thread and wanted to change the subject)

    This ever happen to anyone else?

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    I know what you mean.

    On of my first rides on my RIP, I hooked up with a guy at the trailhead who wanted to see some of the lesser-known routes.

    The wheels on my RIP, unlike my Buzz Bomb, get noticed because of the large "NINER" on the frame's downtube. So naturally, on our first climb, this guy asked a few questions about it.

    I was having a good ride; he was struggling just a little, though nothing bad.

    He attributed almost everything to my wheels: climbing speed on fireroad, steep, sketchy, low traction climbs, descents, braking. He even lifted my bike at one point and commented, "hey, pretty light!" (it's not).

    Here's an unrelated picture of my bike laying in mud.

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    I just put mine together a couple of weeks ago and I have been riding it quite a bit but I would have to say that I do not see much of an advantage when it comes to climbing. Is this wrong or right? of course my niner is a single speed so that might be what is throwing me off.

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    I don't think there is much of an advantage to climbing smooth terrain. In low traction or rocks I think there is an advantage to 29" wheels.
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    "Drawback to 29er, new riding partners attribute your awesome riding to the bike" Never happens to me, I'm still a lousy rider and chicken sh!t on big wheels.
    Riding Fat and still just as fast as I never was.

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    I can now keep up with a much faster rider on downhills and singletrack, one who used to leave my ass in the dust every time - his comment - I need to get one of those clown bikes, look what its done for Al... Of course I do have lots more confidence descending on big wheels. I still can't keep up with him going up though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Al.
    I can now keep up with a much faster rider on downhills and singletrack, one who used to leave my ass in the dust every time - his comment - I need to get one of those clown bikes, look what its done for Al... Of course I do have lots more confidence descending on big wheels. I still can't keep up with him going up though.
    I love my 29er and I'm not trying to put them down in any way, shape or form. But I made a very similar statement when I went from an Ellsworth Truth to a Turner 5 Spot, and my learning lesson there was that changes in headtube angle and other subtle tweaks in the geometry make a huge difference in how a bike handles downhills. There are definitely things that I attribute as big pros to the 29" wheels, but I'd find it hard to assess the downhill capabilities of a 26" vs. a 29" bike without seeing the geometry of the two bikes side by side too.

    That said and done, I modeled my Blacksheep off of my Turner 5 Spot. The headtube angle is 2 degrees steeper, and the bottom bracket is higher, but I've found it to be a very capable bike on the downhills.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TurnerConvert
    There are definitely things that I attribute as big pros to the 29" wheels, but I'd find it hard to assess the downhill capabilities of a 26" vs. a 29" bike without seeing the geometry of the two bikes side by side too.
    hmmmm. I went from a Turner Flux, to a Turner Sultan. I have previously ridden a Burner and a Giant NRS before that. I am more comfortable on the Sultan than any of these bikes. I dunno what it is, but I really seem to ride better on the Sultan. So geometry, better fit, bigger tires, whatever it is, it works for me.

    Just for fun: (from the Turner site)

    Flux
    * Frame Specs:
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    * Travel: 4"
    * Head Angle: 70°
    * Seat Angle: 73.5°
    * Chainstay: 16.75"
    * BB Height: 12.8"

    Sultan:
    * Frame Specs:
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    * Travel: 4"
    * Head Angle: 71°
    * Seat Angle: 73°
    * Chainstay: 18.2"
    * BB Height: 13.3"

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    My friends blame my lack of climbing prowess on the 29er, but also credit it when I leave them in the dust on the flats.

    I too went from a Flux to a Sultan and find myself far more comfortable. Definitley the most roomy bike I have ever ridden.

    Though I wil prob pick up a Knolly DT at some point.

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    i have one friend who's of the 'scared of technical stuff' ilk, and he recently started using 29er's as HIS excuse for not riding a tech section or log, or making it up a hill, whatever on his 26er..... makes me laugh.






    so does this:

    Quote Originally Posted by Speedub.Nate
    Here's an unrelated picture of my bike laying in mud.

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    mud?? bwwwaaaaaahhhaahahahahahahahahahaha! good one nate!
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    Good job! Funny

    On a recent trip wit a few riding buds (all on 26’ers) two things happened.

    We got to a real sandy section and they got off a walked most of it. I saw them & what was up ahead and got some additional speed and made it through. As I made it to the end they started chanting Twoooo Nin’eeeeeeeeer!!!!!!!!!

    Next we were riding a shuttle with almost all semi techie DH. My buddy that was / is thinking about the big hoops (we are the same size and skill) was on my tail during the decent and vice versa.

    After the ride he said “I do not know if I want to go 29’er I didn’t see the benefit on that trail”. I said “Yea but you are on a 6” travel FR bike and I am on a 4” CC bike going DH. Let’s see if you feel the same way tomorrow when we have to do some climbing”.

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    I am not wearing pants...



    but here's an unrelated pic of me in the skid contest at Pedrosfest....

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    Quote Originally Posted by sean salach
    mud?? bwwwaaaaaahhhaahahahahahahahahahaha! good one nate!
    Yeah, I know... we have different standards here in the Bay Area, especially in the summertime.

    It's actually just a puddle of cow piss, but it's the best I could do on short notice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Al.
    hmmmm. I went from a Turner Flux, to a Turner Sultan. I have previously ridden a Burner and a Giant NRS before that. I am more comfortable on the Sultan than any of these bikes. I dunno what it is, but I really seem to ride better on the Sultan. So geometry, better fit, bigger tires, whatever it is, it works for me.
    If there is one 29er that I really want right now, its the Sultan. My friend has one and love's it too. I'm afraid to try riding it right now for fear of the upgradeitis becoming unbearable......

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