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    Canfield Yelli Screamy

    Canfield Yelli Screamy-ys-weight-1.jpg
    Size medium.
    Canfield Yelli Screamy-ys-build.jpg

    Canfield Yelli Screamy-ys-cs-clearance.jpg
    Chain stays are 16.7. Tires are Specy Eskar 2.3 (looks fairly true to size).
    Canfield Yelli Screamy-ys-ss-clearance.jpg

    I have never ridden a 29er, but I am pretty excited about this bike. The ano silver looks great. It is slowly coming together after receiving it yesterday. Fork is a 2010 Marz 44 TST2, which will be modified to an adjustable shim stack fork like THIS MOD. I'll try it out at 120 and 140 (currently set at 100). I bought a pair of Bonty Rhythm Elite's off ebay for cheap (a little worried about flex).

    Many of the parts are being moved over from my On One Summer Season 26" bike. I think I have all the parts I need to finish the build except a front tire . SpecialEd Eskar 2.3 is in back, but I was looking for a 2.4 Purgatory for the front...nobody has any left . Also, locally 29ers are not very popular (yet) and I can't find a decent large volume front tire, like an Ardent 2.4. Guess I'll have to order one, but I can't ride the bike until it arrives.

    Anyway, I'll update as the build moves forward.
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    Wow, looks great.

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    Sweet. Thanks for taking the time to do this. Looking forward to updates.

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    Looks good.

    What size is that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldHouseMan
    Looks good.

    What size is that?
    Medium.
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    Looks great man. Keep the pics coming!

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    That's some great clearance.

    Specialized are one of the few tyres which measure up true

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    Nice! Keep the pics coming and the all important ride report!

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    Awesome! Thanks for the pictures. "The Brothers" have not been pimping this out thing out at all, which has left me twitching like an addict

    Some questions when you get a chance:
    - Is the tire clearance on the brake side stay as good as the drive side?
    - What did you use for a headset? When I started looking for tapered headsets w/1-1/8 steerer I quickly realized what a mess the specs are for this type.
    - Are you putting an FD on or running 1x9? I'm curious as to what the clearance is between the tire and derailleur when in the granny gear.

    Thanks for the help! The bike looks great! I just ordered an Ardent 2.4 and they seem to be in short supply. Universal Cycles had them in stock if you decide to order it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by car_nut
    Awesome! Thanks for the pictures. "The Brothers" have not been pimping this out thing out at all, which has left me twitching like an addict

    Some questions when you get a chance:
    - Is the tire clearance on the brake side stay as good as the drive side?
    - What did you use for a headset? When I started looking for tapered headsets w/1-1/8 steerer I quickly realized what a mess the specs are for this type.
    - Are you putting an FD on or running 1x9? I'm curious as to what the clearance is between the tire and derailleur when in the granny gear.
    car_nut, tire clearance on the non-drive side is not as great as the drive side, but still pretty damned good. I'll try and remember to get a pic later.

    I am going with 1x9...which is good because there ain't alot of clearance down there (photos below). I'm using an old set of Truvativ Stylos. You can't use spacers with the Stylos, so things are very cramped. I'm not sure I could use bigger than a 32T chainring...don't think I could fit a granny ring in there either. Might be different if I could install a few spacers??? don't really know as I ain't much of a mechanic.

    Canfield Yelli Screamy-chainring-clearance.jpg
    what's the clearance clarence?
    Canfield Yelli Screamy-ys-chainring-clearance.jpg

    Almost ready to ride except apparently I am not smart enough to install a tire/tube . Installed a Nevegal up front, but forgot to put tape on the rim and blew the tube. Also, stll need to change the travel...only at 100 right now.
    Canfield Yelli Screamy-ys-build-update1.jpg

    I'll weigh it tomorrow.
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    what's the clearance clarence?

    Quote Originally Posted by geolover
    I am going with 1x9...which is good because there ain't alot of clearance down there (photos below). I'm using an old set of Truvativ Stylos. You can't use spacers with the Stylos, so things are very cramped. I'm not sure I could use bigger than a 32T chainring...don't think I could fit a granny ring in there either. Might be different if I could install a few spacers??? don't really know as I ain't much of a mechanic.
    Thanks for posting these pics, as I'm seriously cogitating a build like this.
    You weren't kidding, that 32T ring clears the chainstay OK, but only just.
    And with your Stylo cranks, I believe there's no room for a drive-side spacer.
    Which (i think) means you have somewhat limited options for fitting a bigger chainring:
    • Ditch the bashguard and mount a >32T ring in the 'big' position, or ...
    • Install a 34T Widget in place of ring and bashie, or...
    • Ditch the Stylos and fit a Mr Whirly or something like it instead

    Personally, I reckon 32T seems 'bout right, so I say stick with the 32T setup you've got!

    Very nice build (aside from the flat tire)
    BTW, what's that braze-on thingy about 1/3rd of the way up the seat-tube?
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    Quote Originally Posted by hootsmon
    what's that braze-on thingy about 1/3rd of the way up the seat-tube?
    that's where the front derailleur mounts. Its the new-ish Direct Mount standard from Shimano. Among other possible advantages, it is helpful for frames where a clamp-on FD won't work, such as this one with its seat tube offset forward of the BB

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    Wow you picked quite a ride for your first 29er.

    It will ride fine at 100mm. You might even like it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by geolover
    car_nut, ...
    Thanks for the info. Looks like it is coming along nicely! If you're as impatient to ride it as I'd be, I'm told 26" tubes will work in 29er tires

    Yeah, that chain clearance is about as tight as I was expecting for a 16.7 chainstay. But, it fits and I'm fine with a 32t ring for a 29er on northeast hills.

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    Nice ride! What's your chain guide plan for the 1x9?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JSumner13
    Nice ride! What's your chain guide plan for the 1x9?
    He might not need one at all if the chain goes as short as possible...

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    ... and if we just ... Guessing Game...

    Quote Originally Posted by JSumner13
    Nice ride! What's your chain guide plan for the 1x9?
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    chainstay

    Minimal clearance...so that explains why they welded the flat thinner piece on the drive side ! Lookin forward to a ride review......next ! TIG.

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    Quote Originally Posted by car_nut
    Thanks for the info. Looks like it is coming along nicely! If you're as impatient to ride it as I'd be, I'm told 26" tubes will work in 29er tires
    Yeah, this was a 26" tube. I've had tremendous difficulty with the Bonty/Nevegal combo...The Neve is VERY tight going on and I feel bad for what I have done to the bead.

    Quote Originally Posted by JSummer13
    Nice ride! What's your chain guide plan for the 1x9?
    I'm hopeful that the method Bonesetter will work (short chain). If not, I'm afraid I'll have to go with a different crankset and use a BB mounted chain guide. I do like the looks of the widget, but doubt I could use it with a 32T...not enough clearance. I'm definitely open to ideas.

    Thanks for all the good words, folks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hootsmon
    And with your Stylo cranks, I believe there's no room for a drive-side spacer.
    With shimano/fsa/race face, you use one drive side spacer for 73mm, and with truvativ you can't use any.

    For all of the above you add one spacer on each side for 68mm.

    So it's either 0 spacers or 2 for truvativ.

    Yelli Screamy is 73mm unfortunately, so you can't use spacers at all.

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    yeah, gonna need some retention on that 1x9..
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    I'm a fan of 1x9 set-up on my HT, and with no chainguide up front. Covers my terrain perfectly. I like the look of it, the simplicity, and never having to front shift

    Here's a not very good pic of my 1x9 Paradox (73mm BB), and the chain's not quite on the biggest ring out back. Sorry if I'm telling you how to suck eggs here. The chain usually wants to drop inwards, especially when shifting off the bigest rear sprocket. I've found the wiggle effect of the chain 'dropping' off the sprocket tries to shake the chain off the chainring inwards. The short tight chain goes most of the way to prevent this.

    Other thing is keeping the chainring as close to the shell as possible (You're covered on that one ) to keep the chainline as straight as possible when in the likely drop position

    Mine never drops with this method, despite stutter steps, small drops etc.
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    Potting soil on the paint/stain shelf?

    Nice looking bike, enjoy!

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    I can't say enough good things about the purgatory 2.4 i've been running up front all summer...a better tire in pretty much all respects than the rampages, ardents, nevegals etc i've owned. you couldn't order one direct from specialized, or have your LBS order one?

    shimano XT cranks would allow you to space things out on the driveside. or better yet, pick up some of the $125 SLX cranksets you can get online these days.

    re: chainguide -- i've been running 1X9 and 1X6 hardtails with no dropped chains w/o guides for quite a while now on rough trails, but only with a rear der w/ a health amount of spring tension, and a short chain.
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    I ran a 1 x 5 quite a bit last summer with only a bashring to keep it on there. Only dropped the chain once, and I believe it was due to picking up a stick. Short cage road derailluer and short chain as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by frorider
    I can't say enough good things about the purgatory 2.4 i've been running up front all summer...a better tire in pretty much all respects than the rampages, ardents, nevegals etc i've owned. you couldn't order one direct from specialized, or have your LBS order one?
    Tried to order direct, as my local Specy dealer blows, but Specialized is sold out until late October. I'll just ride the Neve until I can get the purgatory, which is fine. I'm familiar with the Nevegal (26") and am comfortable enough with its performance (and lack there of).
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    Quote Originally Posted by geolover
    I do like the looks of the widget, but doubt I could use it with a 32T...not enough clearance. I'm definitely open to ideas.
    First, I agree with bonesetter; you may well not need a chainguard if the chain's short.
    Second, I wouldn't dismiss the Widgit idea out of hand, since on closer inspection you'll see that in 34T form (at least), the widget ring is dished outboard by a few mm. So in effect, the chainline gets moved out by a few mm (from the ideal) and that's why I suspect a 34T might actually fit. But don't quote me.
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    Update

    OK, I pretty much have it together...although I am having trouble with the rear brake. I have an old set of XT 4-pots I was using on my old hardtail. Transferred it over and the disc rubs inside the caliper...since it is IS to IS there is no way to adjust the caliper vertical, so I installed an old post mount Hayes brake and of course it needs bleeding .

    Anywho, a few shots:
    Canfield Yelli Screamy-ys-100mm.jpg

    Canfield Yelli Screamy-ys-oblique.jpg
    Here's the non-drive side clearance
    Canfield Yelli Screamy-ys-non-driveside-cs.jpg

    The bike is smaller than I expected and seems to be really nimble (neighborhood test run). I can tell the fork needs MOAR travel.

    edit: Currently weighs 28 pounds.
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    Looks great! Thanks for the disk side chainstay shot.

    I'm green with envy, as I'm not pulling the trigger on mine until winter

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    Quote Originally Posted by car_nut
    Some questions when you get a chance:
    - What did you use for a headset? When I started looking for tapered headsets w/1-1/8 steerer I quickly realized what a mess the specs are for this type.
    The LBS installed a FSA Gravity DX tapered headset. Regular 1.5 bottom and zero stack top. Doesn't matter to me, I told them I wanted good value and NO Chris King.
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    Looks great! What's the weight? Enjoy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce9er
    Looks great! What's the weight? Enjoy!
    Right! I forgot to mention that...28 pounds even. Not too bad. My 26" hardtail with many of the same parts was 30 pounds.
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    Rode a yelli today, you are lucky.... I'm ordering one tonight when I get back to the hotel. By far the most fun bike I rode all day!(Interbike).

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    Quote Originally Posted by wyatt79m
    Rode a yelli today, you are lucky.... I'm ordering one tonight when I get back to the hotel. By far the most fun bike I rode all day!(Interbike).
    can you give more specifics? what fork/travel on there? how did it handle compared to other 29ers?
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    It had a fox, I believe it was 100mm, but I'm suffering from information overload, so I'm not positive. I'm gonna take it on a longer ride tomorrow and I'll pay more attention. For today I just rode a bunch of stuff and it just stood out as being a really fun, lively bike. It feels really agile and quick handling. It feels more like a 26er in the way it turns and it's easy to get the front end where you want it, but it still rolls like a 29er.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wyatt79m
    It had a fox, I believe it was 100mm, but I'm suffering from information overload, so I'm not positive. I'm gonna take it on a longer ride tomorrow and I'll pay more attention. For today I just rode a bunch of stuff and it just stood out as being a really fun, lively bike. It feels really agile and quick handling. It feels more like a 26er in the way it turns and it's easy to get the front end where you want it, but it still rolls like a 29er.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wyatt79m
    Rode a yelli today, you are lucky.... I'm ordering one tonight when I get back to the hotel. By far the most fun bike I rode all day!(Interbike).
    Where did they have them? I looked around a little bit and couldn't find them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2TurnersNotEnough
    Where did they have them? I looked around a little bit and couldn't find them.
    Check the other thread on the Yelli Screamy. One of the brothers left a phone # to call if anyone wants to ride it. I guess they don't have an official demo spot or something, but they have a bike in each size to ride.

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    What about the hack on the fork?
    I've the same fork in my Chumba, and I'm intrested in this mod...

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    Keep those ride reports coming!! :-)

    Anymore feedback n the chainring clearance? If I got one I'd set it up ss with 32t ring - hoping to use my Middleburns which are currently on a 113mm square taper...

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    How is the clearance between fork knobs and frame?

    Even 26er bikes tend to be too tall in the front for me. A very low (or no) stack headset might keep the height in check.

    "it IS possible that you are faster or slower than anybody else who is having at least as much if not more or less fun"

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    Hey geolover, how tall are you? I've pretty much picked the Yelli Screamy for my first 29er, but I'm stuck between a med and large.
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    Quote Originally Posted by killjoyken
    Hey geolover, how tall are you? I've pretty much picked the Yelli Screamy for my first 29er, but I'm stuck between a med and large.
    I'm 6'2 with proportional measurements. I chose the medium because to the 23.75" eff TT...this matches my large Titus Supermoto, which fits me perfectly. I do like a compact fit. I also wanted to makes sure the wheelbase was kept to a minimum.

    The seat tube is very short though...it may not be enough for some that like to sit way up in the clouds while climbing. Works well for me though (well, so far...no real trail ride yet ).
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    Quote Originally Posted by bricke
    What about the hack on the fork?
    I've the same fork in my Chumba, and I'm intrested in this mod...
    I have yet to do it. I want to get some time in on the stock settings before I go rooting around inside. Here is the link if you want to giv'r.

    http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?t=410874
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    Quote Originally Posted by perttime
    How is the clearance between fork knobs and frame?

    Even 26er bikes tend to be too tall in the front for me. A very low (or no) stack headset might keep the height in check.
    It is pretty good ~10mm clearance between TST knob and frame (closest point).

    Headtube is "zero stack" standard.
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    Thanks for the info. The medium is only .25" shorter than the large Tallboy I demo'd so it should be just right. I just need to pull the trigger and order it now....and find some wheels and a fork.

    So the top of the headset is Zero Stack and the bottom is standard 1.5?
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    Any more ride reports? :-)

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    Seriously, 6'2" on a Medium? What length stem? Same height and I've never felt less than cramped on anything under a 20" frame. Do you do any long rides, say longer than 3 hours? Really, just so curious HOW people of our height can ride a bike that's so small
    Quote Originally Posted by geolover
    I'm 6'2 with proportional measurements. I chose the medium because to the 23.75" eff TT...this matches my large Titus Supermoto, which fits me perfectly. I do like a compact fit. I also wanted to makes sure the wheelbase was kept to a minimum.

    The seat tube is very short though...it may not be enough for some that like to sit way up in the clouds while climbing. Works well for me though (well, so far...no real trail ride yet ).
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    Quote Originally Posted by LyNx
    Seriously, 6'2" on a Medium? What length stem? Same height and I've never felt less than cramped on anything under a 20" frame. Do you do any long rides, say longer than 3 hours? Really, just so curious HOW people of our height can ride a bike that's so small
    C'mon LyNx, leave the guy be - I've been very happy on my last two 24" ETT bikes at nearly 6'3"

    Personal preference...?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LyNx
    Seriously, 6'2" on a Medium? What length stem? Same height and I've never felt less than cramped on anything under a 20" frame. Do you do any long rides, say longer than 3 hours? Really, just so curious HOW people of our height can ride a bike that's so small
    Do you ever ride your bicycle down a hill?

    I don't care if I look like I'm monkey fvcking the handlebars...I generally prefer to setup my bikes for comfort/performance during the downhill portion of a ride. Do I do any long rides? Not as much anymore with a 1 and 3 year old boy nipping at my heels all day long. All my 3 hour plus rides are done at Whistler Bike Park nowadays (my bike for those days has a 23.5" ETT ).

    For the record, I am using a 40mm Truvativ Holzfeller stem on the Yelli Screamy...felt pretty good on the shakedown ride last night.

    Thanks for your concern.
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    ... and if we just ...

    Quote Originally Posted by bonesetter2004
    C'mon LyNx, leave the guy be - I've been very happy on my last two 24" ETT bikes at nearly 6'3"

    Personal preference...?
    Personal preference! I am 5'10" w/ 31" inseam (and non-gorilla arms...no offense to gorillas) and I like L frames. I have one on the way with a 24.2" TT, a setback seatpost and shorter stem...
    Granted for the intended application, I would size down with Lynx's Paradox and probably this Canfield...YMMV...

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    First ride

    Finally got out on a ride last night. Interestng. Quite honestly I didn't notice too much difference in handling from my 26" hardtail. I did feel a slight gyroscopic difference when throwing the bike side-to-side, but I think it is something I will get used to after a few rides.

    Climbing: I need MOAR gears! I noticed the gearing while climbing. Will have to look into 36T cassettes although, I haven't had much saddle time though and could just be fat and lazy. Short chainstays....Front end lifts easily. I felt like I would loop-out about as much as my old hardtail...which is a good thing . I'm used to riding bikes with short CS so I've learned to move forward in the saddle when I need to.

    I have never ridden a fork with a lock-out. Tried it out on the last portion of my climb and I kinda liked it. Too bad I forgot to turn it off until 1/2 way through my descent .

    Descending:
    First trail: Unemployment Line (note: this rider is NOT me)
    I couldn't believe how uncorfortable the ride was until I realized the fork was locked out. Big wheels keep on rollin'! Fast. Easy to flick around. Felt relatively comfortable jumping.

    Sorry, I can't compare this to any other 29er as this is my first experience, but I didn't notice too much difference in turning/handling from my 26er HT and I guess that is a good thing. It does roll faster/better. So far, so good.
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    Too bad I forgot to turn it off until 1/2 way through my descent .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Warp
    You suck.

    (Read: I have envy on your new bike)
    Warp, of course you do.

    And yes, I do suck.
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    I want this bike. I just can't decide whether my ass can handle a hardtail again, I swore off them forever after I sold my old Transition Vagrant. That said, I bet this thing would be a crusher Super D bike (mellower pedally courses) with an adjustable post.

    Oh and yes their top tubes seem long, I always ride a medium in 26" bikes but I'd go to a small for this with the 23.0" effective TT. I'm 5'10" 32" inseam FWIW.

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    I simply asked an honest question, if that's wrong then I guess I got the idea of a forum wrong

    And to your question Geo, YES, I do often go down very steep trails/hills with no problems with my 25.25" ETT, setback post, 110/0 stem and flat bar with 1-2" drop between saddle and bar and I do just fine if it's really steep/knarly I simply drop my saddle a few inches and I'm good.

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    C'mon LyNx, leave the guy be - I've been very happy on my last two 24" ETT bikes at nearly 6'3"

    Personal preference...?
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    Quote Originally Posted by LyNx
    I simply asked an honest question, if that's wrong then I guess I got the idea of a forum wrong
    I thought forums were for fanboi fanatacism and making fun of people anonymously.

    Quote Originally Posted by LyNx
    And to your question Geo, YES, I do often go down very steep trails/hills with no problems with my 25.25" ETT, setback post, 110/0 stem and flat bar with 1-2" drop between saddle and bar and I do just fine if it's really steep/knarly I simply drop my saddle a few inches and I'm good.
    And I do just fine with my 23.7" ETT, straight (normal ) post, 40/0 stem and lo-rise bar going uphill. I guees that means I need a crutch for the downhills and you need a crutch for the uphills.

    BTW, no offense taken by me with your original question. Different strokes.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by LyNx
    Seriously, 6'2" on a Medium? What length stem? Same height and I've never felt less than cramped on anything under a 20" frame. Do you do any long rides, say longer than 3 hours? Really, just so curious HOW people of our height can ride a bike that's so small
    a good ride for me is 6,000 vert climbing, 40+ miles singletrack, 7+ hours.

    on a bike w/ an ETT of 23.8" and a 18.5" ST. 710 mm bars make a huge difference. Otherwise i'd be on a 25 inch ETT with purple anodized parts and it would be 1996 all over again.

    i'm 6'3".

    i know plenty others in that same gen'l category. ...imagine you would if you lived in the western US.
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    I don't think of it as a crutch, more as a prefered enjoyment of a particular style or part of the ride I like to ride for long, 3+ hours with loads of climbing is what I enjoy, but I also like the DH, but won't compromise the ability to be comfortable and have good climbing manners for it. I did swap down to a 110/0 from a 120/0 recently, liked the small change

    Quote Originally Posted by geolover
    I thought forums were for fanboi fanatacism and making fun of people anonymously.

    And I do just fine with my 23.7" ETT, straight (normal ) post, 40/0 stem and lo-rise bar going uphill. I guees that means I need a crutch for the downhills and you need a crutch for the uphills.

    BTW, no offense taken by me with your original question. Different strokes.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by frorider
    i know plenty others in that same gen'l category. ...imagine you would if you lived in the western US.
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    This bike got little hype while everyone was talking nimble

    can't wait for the nimble9, in the meantime, other offerings are coming onto the scene, great to see
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    Quote Originally Posted by frorider
    on a bike w/ an ETT of 23.8" and a 18.5" ST. 710 mm bars make a huge difference.

    i know plenty others in that same gen'l category. ...imagine you would if you lived in the western US.
    Yep. +1 at least.
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    Quote Originally Posted by geolover
    Short chainstays....Front end lifts easily. I felt like I would loop-out about as much as my old hardtail...which is a good thing
    Thats what I've been waiting to hear.

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    Looking good, Geo

    Welcome to the wonderful world of the twentyginer! You're gonna love it. I've found the Paradox to be a perfectly amazing trail schralpin machine and I can only imagine that the Canfield's going to be the same.

    Some of the Galby drops/jumps might be a little insane, but the rest'll be sick on this rig.
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    Hey Geolover,

    How you liking that Marz fork on this bike? The fork is cheap, so I'm considering. And have you gotten any more ride time in?

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    So, any update on this? Anything you've come across now you've had a it a couple weeks that stnads out?

    I know that this and the other bikes with similar geo are being toated as "AM" hardtails, but to be honest I think that this is where the designs are heading for just general trail/XC riding as far as 29ers go Heck as far as I'm concerned, my Paradox is just a great XC bike that happens to also behave very nicely when pointed down and I think slacking out the HA another degree or 2 wouldn't kill maybe that's where the 140mm forks come in for these frames; they're already designed beefy enough overall, so throwing another 20mm travel at them isn't going to compromise the integrity of the frame IMHO.
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    I just went for my first 29er ride on my new Yelli. It was great. The only thing I would have changed was putting a dropper on it. I've had some type of dropper on my bikes for the last three years so it was weird not having one.

    Setting the bike up has a couple tricky spots. I had to file about .5 mm of the weld down to fit an external BB cup on the non drive side. The chainring clearance was tricky. I'm running and XT BB and had to put 2 spacers on the drive side to clear a 22/36 combo. I'm not stoked on that but it works. The cable routing was clean but a little weird to only have braze-ons for one cable and then I had to zip tie the others two cables to that. It was my first experience with a 1.125/1.5 integrated headset but a buddy pointed me in the right direction. I'm running 2.25 Ardents and they clear fine but I think I'm going to cut the downpull arm off the front der incase I ever want to run a bigger tire.

    The ride was great. It wasn't as fast on the down but I'm used to an Enduro SL or 303 so that was to be expected. It climbed great and flew on the flats. It also cornered well but I had a couple close calls with not having my seat down. Totally user error though. I was nervous about going to a 29er without ever riding one but the geo of this bike looked good to me. The front end was easy to pick up. The geo numbers on their website are right on. I'm running a 120 fork and am right around a 68 HA. I clocked in at just over 27 lbs on the bathroom scale. It's XT/XO, Fox RLC, tubeless Spinergy, 50mm Marrow stem, 745 mm bars. The seat tube has plenty of room. All in all, I'm stoked. I think it's a perfect foothills bike for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by slowlane
    The chainring clearance was tricky. I'm running and XT BB and had to put 2 spacers on the drive side to clear a 22/36 combo. I'm not stoked on that but it works. The cable routing was clean but a little weird to only have braze-ons for one cable and then I had to zip tie the others two cables to that.

    The ride was great. It wasn't as fast on the down but I'm used to an Enduro SL or 303 so that was to be expected. It climbed great and flew on the flats. It also cornered well.....I was nervous about going to a 29er without ever riding one but the geo of this bike looked good to me. The front end was easy to pick up. The seat tube has plenty of room. All in all, I'm stoked. I think it's a perfect foothills bike for me.
    Your bike looks hawt!

    I would echo your comments completely...except I would like it if there were no water bottle mounts on the seat tube. I'd prefer to be able to drop the seat more...although some might argue I bought too small a bike for my size.

    I'm currently at 100mm, but am looking forward to going to 120/140mm as soon as the right parts arrive from Marzocchi (hopefully today).
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    Quote Originally Posted by bluestatevirgin
    Hey Geolover,

    How you liking that Marz fork on this bike? The fork is cheap, so I'm considering. And have you gotten any more ride time in?
    The fork, so far, is pretty good...especially considering the price. It definitely spikes a little on high speed hits, but small bump sensitivity is quite nice. I'll end up switching the TST/lockout to an adjustable shim stack soon, so hopefully the high speed spiking will go away. If you are considering the one from $250 Chain Reaction be advised that it could be the 100mm only version. To change travel you'll need a ~$25 push-rod from Marzocchi.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wyatt79m
    What bars do you have?
    Those look like Race Face Atlas bars to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by geolover
    Those look like Race Face Atlas bars to me.
    Yep, I think your right. Btw, you are gonna take lots of pics when you rip your fork apart, I hope, I think I might need to do the same thing....

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    Quote Originally Posted by wyatt79m
    Yep, I think your right. Btw, you are gonna take lots of pics when you rip your fork apart, I hope, I think I might need to do the same thing....
    I have already had it apart once. Lots of good pics in this thread HERE. I followed JNC's directions and it was pretty easy. Haven't had the TST cart apart yet though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LyNx
    Seriously, 6'2" on a Medium? What length stem? Same height and I've never felt less than cramped on anything under a 20" frame. Do you do any long rides, say longer than 3 hours? Really, just so curious HOW people of our height can ride a bike that's so small
    im 6 foot 6 190pounds and ride a 19.5. its all about individual fit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin_Federline
    im 6 foot 6 190pounds and ride a 19.5. its all about individual fit.
    He knows that really

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    The bars are Sunline V1s. They made blue in a limited run a year or two ago. 19mm rise, 745mm wide. I think it works out to just over 29". I like that width a lot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by geolover
    The fork, so far, is pretty good...especially considering the price. It definitely spikes a little on high speed hits, but small bump sensitivity is quite nice. I'll end up switching the TST/lockout to an adjustable shim stack soon, so hopefully the high speed spiking will go away. If you are considering the one from $250 Chain Reaction be advised that it could be the 100mm only version. To change travel you'll need a ~$25 push-rod from Marzocchi.
    Thanks. Good info. to know.

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    I finally ripped my Marzocchi apart, looks like I need to order a new push rod? There is a part bouncing around in there and under that circlip or snapring? I don't think any of that needs to come out though? Please help?
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    Quote Originally Posted by wyatt79m
    I finally ripped my Marzocchi apart, looks like I need to order a new push rod? There is a part bouncing around in there and under that circlip or snapring? I don't think any of that needs to come out though? Please help?
    With no spacers (as is) does your travel = 100mm? If so, you will need the "regular" push rod.

    As long as you can re-thread the rod to the bottom piece (when you put it back together) you don't need to take anything else apart.

    Cheers

    edit: make sure at least one spacer comes with the new push rod.
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    cool, thats what I thought, thanks.

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    Geolover - I just came across this thread - one of my bikes (fun backup bike) is an On One Summer Season (kid has one too - love em) I was looking to possibly replace it with a 29er but have been waiting for a slack - longer travel version.

    2 questions from the get go;
    - where can I find the specs for this frame - e.g, seat tube size, HT length, etc.
    - how is the ride between the two, I was most specifically questioning the descending - that's really all I care about anyway.

    All the 29er people I ride with are much more XC oriented, I was hoping this would get me around a bit faster. Was toying with the idea of riding in a couple of local XC - Super D races this year.

    Also, just a bling 'need my bike to match' note - your zocci fork has blue stickers, not the traditional red? curious...

    Thanks for for any info you can provide!

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    Specs are here http://www.canfieldbrothers.com/products/yelli-screamy. I can't help you with the ride questions as I don't have mine together yet.

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    Thanks - I've been to that website MANY times. When the PDF downloads, it's very large on the screen, I never thought to look in the upper left corner for 5 lines of text.

    Got it - THANKS!

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    There is another thread right on this page that is about 8 pages long now....with geo and build pics....and every bit of info ( headsets and b/b set ups)

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    Cane Creek tapered headset for $60 bucks

    https://www.transitionbikes.com/Stor...1481743&P=1568
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    Quote Originally Posted by Revalimage
    Geolover - I just came across this thread - one of my bikes (fun backup bike) is an On One Summer Season (kid has one too - love em) I was looking to possibly replace it with a 29er but have been waiting for a slack - longer travel version.

    2 questions from the get go;
    - where can I find the specs for this frame - e.g, seat tube size, HT length, etc.
    - how is the ride between the two, I was most specifically questioning the descending - that's really all I care about anyway.

    All the 29er people I ride with are much more XC oriented, I was hoping this would get me around a bit faster. Was toying with the idea of riding in a couple of local XC - Super D races this year.

    Also, just a bling 'need my bike to match' note - your zocci fork has blue stickers, not the traditional red? curious...

    Thanks for for any info you can provide!
    I really liked my Summer Season, but I have since sold the On One. I think the Canfield outperforms it in every way, except for maybe when in the air. Although, for me, hardtails aren't made for getting too much air time, YMMV. The Canfield has great traction when climbing and I can't feel much difference in tight turning situations...except for slight wheel flex from the Bonty's. That is the one negative with 29ers, IMO. You can't skimp on wheels. That being said, the flex is not a deal killer for me in this case.

    The big wheels roll very well and smooth out choppy trails great. It feels as stable descending as the On One ever did. The Yelli has a tapered headtube too, so you can use a Cane Creek Angleset to adjust headangle if you so desire.

    I bought the Marz fork HERE . I believe it is an OEM fork. Mine came with 100mm of travel only (not adjustable). I had to order a new adjuster rod and spacer from Marzocchi (~$25) to change travel options. Kind of a pain in the a-hole, but the fork was cheap...and blue .
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    Yelli in gold

    Chris sent me out my Yelli last week so thanks to him.... Built it up this week with a Reba 120mm, XT drive train, Ardent 2.4 on the front, 2.25 on the rear and a Rockshox Reverb dropper. If it ever stops snowing in the Northeast, I can post up how it rides.....
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    mtbiker1973, are those Canfield wheels? any comments or info on them? do they use a generic rim profile (i.e. not tubeless-ready)?
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    First Ride

    Wow - All i can say is wow, It handled beyond my expectations. I have owned three 29er's and ridden a couple others and this honestly by far the best/funnest 29er i have owned/ridden.Climbed great,very flickable imo,front end pulls up easy which i think is great,very easy to control on the descents. The only two thing's i plan to change is the bars to something a little wider and adding a ks900 or 950 post.

    Oh yea and hopefully my new lowers come in next week so i can put on my front brake as there were a couple times i needed them haha which i also think this bike is awesome with a 120mm fork and all thoughts of lowering to 100 are out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by frorider
    mtbiker1973, are those Canfield wheels? any comments or info on them? do they use a generic rim profile (i.e. not tubeless-ready)?

    Definitely Canfield wheels and I could not find a lot of info on them so I spent a bit of time on the phone with Chris to get their impressions given that they ride everything that they sell. They are standard (not tubeless) set up and seem well built. They have Shimano freehub bodies so they should be easy to service and get parts. I am running Stan's Flow hoops on my 26 so I was going to compare the rides and decide whether I want to upgrade or build something else up later. For $450 a wheelset, I figured that could not go wrong. Chris indicated that the wheels/hubs were bomb-proof and had some of the lowest rolling resistance out of anything that he has ridden in a while which were attributes that I was definitely looking for.

    Under 4' of snow in CT so there won't be a ride report for a while. Love to hear anyone else chime in on Canfield rims to let me know if I made a good or bad decision. Knowing Canfield's rep for quality, I doubt this was a miss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wyatt79m
    Some big air

    I also love that little scrub around the 43 second mark.

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    Hi,

    Went through CS pictures and I'm still not sure... Is there enough space for fat tire on wide rim - Ardent 2.4 on P35 or Gordo - and some mud? Not everybody is living in California...

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    HTF does a rim have anything to do with rolling resistance, Seriously? That's the biggest amount of HS I have ever heard. Tyre DEFINITELY, hub MAYBE, rim NOT. Oh and just as an FYI, you could have got a set of Flows laced to Pro2s for another $100.

    Quote Originally Posted by mtbiker1973
    Definitely Canfield rims and I could not find a lot of info on them so I spent a bit of time on the phone with Chris to get their impressions given that they ride everything that they sell. They are standard (not tubeless) set up and seem well built. They have Shimano freehub bodies so they should be easy to service and get parts. I am running Stan's Flow hoops on my 26 so I was going to compare the rides and decide whether I want to upgrade or build something else up later. For $450 a wheelset, I figured that could not go wrong. Chris indicated that they were bomb-proof and had some of the lowest rolling resistance out of anything that he has ridden in a while which were attributes that I was definitely looking for.

    Under 4' of snow in CT so there won't be a ride report for a while. Love to hear anyone else chime in on Canfield rims to let me know if I made a good or bad decision. Knowing Canfield's rep for quality, I doubt this was a miss.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LyNx
    HTF does a rim have anything to do with rolling resistance, Seriously? That's the biggest amount of HS I have ever heard. Tyre DEFINITELY, hub MAYBE, rim NOT. Oh and just as an FYI, you could have got a set of Flows laced to Pro2s for another $100.
    Could not agree more and thanks for pointing out my lack of elaboration. I was not trying to insinuate that the rim itself was what made the wheels roll smoothly but maybe the rim/spoke/hub combination and build that made the wheels a great buy for $450 and easy to maintain. After a complete build from scratch, it is nice to have a few extra parts and something to upgrade later. I have Chris King hubs sitting on my workbench so my goal was to have two sets of wheels and there is no need to have $800 backups laying around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LyNx
    HTF does a rim have anything to do with rolling resistance, Seriously? That's the biggest amount of HS I have ever heard. Tyre DEFINITELY, hub MAYBE, rim NOT. Oh and just as an FYI, you could have got a set of Flows laced to Pro2s for another $100.
    Maybe it is just me, but it seems like you always have a negative attitude. Maybe you should look into something before calling it H.S.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LyNx
    Oh and just as an FYI, you could have got a set of Flows laced to Pro2s for another $100.
    Having a hard time finding the under one hundred $ deal on that link???? Being out of work since October and struggling to collect unemployment, and need wheels, that would help me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IvanMTB
    Hi,

    Went through CS pictures and I'm still not sure... Is there enough space for fat tire on wide rim - Ardent 2.4 on P35 or Gordo - and some mud? Not everybody is living in California...

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    YES! I had a 2.4 Ardent on a Semi and could still fit my finger in there Now, with a front derailleur you might run into tire/cage issues but as long as you go 1xX you'll be fine.

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    Cheers mate !

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    What Chris was saying is that the hubs are fast rolling, not the rims..... also the deal on the flows on pro2's is an aditional $100 over the $450 Canfield wheels. We put together a solid rim, a fantastic hub and DB spokes for an affordable price. Not looking to reinvent the wheel, literally, a quality component spec, a reasonable weight, and quality built at a good price. We have a new rim profile and some exciting hub prototypes that are in the works so keep an eye out for those.

    FYI- cut off the down pull arm on the direct mount front derailleur for tire clearance.

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    Also-
    Our rims have a nice deep inner channel that sets up getto Tubeless super easy with a floor pump-

    Just mounted a set of Kenda's on my Website builders bike- pumped right up with my Pedro's Orange floor pump-

    The trick is to run a ring of stans around the tire bead to get it to pump up easy and the stans then glues the tire to the getto-tube for a less-burping seal------ So when the tire gets pulled away from the rim- the tube pulls with it---

    Getto is the only way to go----

    FYI- Our new custom DH rim has the same technology-

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    Canfield wheels

    Quote Originally Posted by frorider
    mtbiker1973, are those Canfield wheels? any comments or info on them? do they use a generic rim profile (i.e. not tubeless-ready)?
    They use Formula hubs laced to their version of an Alex rims.

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    Could you fit WTBs Dissents (2.5) in there?

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    Sorry to bump up an old thread, but I thought I'd just mention that I still love this bike after 2 years.

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