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    96er/69er Picture Thread

    Please post your 96er/69er pics.

    Let's keep it to pictures without the whole 29er vs. 96er debate, thanks. (if you want to debate it, start another thread )

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    I think someone started one of these just a couple of weeks ago, but here's what I've got cookin on a very low budget:



    rockhound - the fork should look familiar. the bike now has a saddle, seatpost, brake levers, and grips on it. Still needs a SS rear wheel, a tensioner a chain, and some brake cable and housing installed, but she's getting there.

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    Yeah, I'm first!

    I posted this in the SS forum a little while ago, but hear it is: Titanium, Singlespeed, S&S couplers, 69er:

    Edit: Damn, someone beat me to it!
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    That's mighty tight clearance up front, what's the AC length on that On One Trials fork??

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    here's the Carver I test rode for a bit in the spring. It was a fun bike but it was a touch too small for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMcG
    That's mighty tight clearance up front, what's the AC length on that On One Trials fork??
    You are correct, clearance at the crown is very tight with the Bontrager Jones XR 2.25. The AC length is 425. I actually filed a notch in the bottom of the steerer tube for a little more clearance. I would love to put a new WTB WW LT 2.55 on the front to match the 26" one I now have on the back, but there is no way it will fit in this fork. Maybe a custom Black Sheep Ti fork with more offset? $$$!

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    What about a regular Inbred fork - 440mm AC height?

    Mine might be a little tall Axle to Crown. Time will tell I guess.

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    Here's my take on a 69er.






    On-One Tinbred with the front wheel out of my crossbike. I'm still waiting to get a propper ride on it.

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    Another one that looks really well balanced with that fork up front. is that a Pace 26er or 29er fork on the front? Looks good!

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    My Inbred, easy to swap between 26 and 29 with this fork.
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    Another one that looks really well balanced with that fork up front. is that a Pace 26er or 29er fork on the front? Looks good!
    It's a 26er fork.

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    I've added a few bits and pieces and thought I'd update things with a pic here.

    Wheel en route to me from my buddy and teammate splat (the splat of NEMBA, Vietnam fame).


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    I wouldn't ride a Nishiki, couldn't obtain a Fisher at my budget. I frankenbiked my VooDoo. It was way better than how I rode it 26/26 rigid before, but the rear felt insanely harsh all at once. I rode it shortly till I found a used Fisher frameset + wheels lightly used in the MTBR classifieds. I sold the Dimension 26" disc fork, most other parts I still have. This was also my first go at disc brakes. Late 2001 project this I think.

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    Oops, wrong project...

    Sorry, a little off topic....
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    Fixed gear 69'er.

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    WTF???? Good PS job there man, made me do a double take.

    I Have always liked the 96er idea, but I also wanna see a 27in bike. those all look pretty good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cloxxki
    I wouldn't ride a Nishiki, couldn't obtain a Fisher at my budget. I frankenbiked my VooDoo. It was way better than how I rode it 26/26 rigid before, but the rear felt insanely harsh all at once. I rode it shortly till I found a used Fisher frameset + wheels lightly used in the MTBR classifieds. I sold the Dimension 26" disc fork, most other parts I still have. This was also my first go at disc brakes. Late 2001 project this I think.
    Cloxxki, I think it looks good. The difference between the wheels and tires looks exaggerated on your bike compared to the others for some reason...maybe the all black rims.

    P.S. What's wrong with Nishikis? I still have a Nishiki road bike...

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    Quote Originally Posted by rockhound
    Cloxxki, I think it looks good. The difference between the wheels and tires looks exaggerated on your bike compared to the others for some reason...maybe the all black rims.

    P.S. What's wrong with Nishikis? I still have a Nishiki road bike...
    I can't hold a cam straight. I have a straightened version of this pic somewhere, and it looks more "normal".
    Back then I was dead-set on corrected 29" geometry (no 71 HTA for me), and I didn't trust the carbon suspension forks. Oh, and top tubes were too short for me. Now, I'd get a 22" Nishiki frame and build it as a monstercrosser. The long head tube, short top tube and slow handling all favor that :-) NIshiki used to be good, their Bigfoots came from a Dutch/German cooperation that bought the name, and now it's just a Scandinavian purchase group anymore I think.
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    Not my bike, but a nice looking Specialized Enduro 96er right here:


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    My MC 96er

    Hey I'm shameless. I know I posted this already (at least once), but I love to show off my creations!! The bike is built around a Matt Chester geared Ute. The fork is a Vanilla Cycles fillet brazed beauty. If you haven;t seen any of Sacha's work, find some. The man is an artist!!!I have some tweaking to do before the build is final. I am building up a dedicated Eccentric ENO wheel tonight and have a couple of other blingy bits to hang from it, but other than that here's how its going to look. I do want to swap out the ExiWolf front tire as I find it crazy harsh. Thinking about either Rampage, Nevegal or ultimately WW LT .
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    my peyto

    all of the attachment and formatting buttons have always been dead links to me for some reason (running firefox 2.0) but here is my 69'd peyto that i farted around on this summer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mainemud
    Sorry, a little off topic....
    ....mad chain growth there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rockhound
    Please post your 96er/69er pics.

    Let's keep it to pictures without the whole 29er vs. 96er debate, thanks. (if you want to debate it, start another thread )
    Here is my Haro Werx SS converted to 96er...


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    Rockhound- what fork did you use there? Is that a Surly? Or perhaps a Dimension?

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    Slingshot

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    Trek

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    Carver 96er

    SRAM X.9 Trigger drivetrain
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    Tested with my bike as a 69:er some weeks ago. Really nice feeling when riding, but theres still to narrow 29" tires for my taste to go for it...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tobias/Frost
    ...but theres still to narrow 29" tires for my taste to go for it...

    i ride an bontrager 2.2" tire and ride it with 24 PSI and less

    i don't really need more

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    Quote Originally Posted by mainemud
    Sorry, a little off topic....
    The funny thing is that it's not the homeliest bike in the thread.

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    The Soma GroovenStein. Full 29er front end did slack the head angle, but handles surprisingly well. Lood at the Trek 69 geometry, 69*head angle, Mine is about 69-69.5*.
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    I dig that Soma!

    I have my Zion almost ready to go. Just need a tensioner and she'd be rockin. I might need a true SS cog too.

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    MMcG, definitely a SS cog. I had one out of a set and it was a little flimsy. Before you spend $ on a tensioner, check out the Eccentric hub from white industries, pricey but worth it to me when I was going to do a SS hub and tensioner, this one does both jobs for less than I was going to spend on both. Sorry to hijack the thread but just following up.

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    DMR Switchback

    DMR Reynolds 520 Frame
    X9 Rear Mech and shifters
    XT Front Mech
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    Maxxis Ignitor front; Conti Vertical Pro rear
    XT Cranks
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    I really like how that DMR looks with suspension up front!

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    this bike rides well

    this bike rides well
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    Quote Originally Posted by iliketoridebikes
    this bike rides well
    Cool. What fork is that?

    Have you had it on Kaintuck?

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    Does anyone like the way a Carver rides?

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    Getting Closer

    Here's My Zion again. She's getting closer to being complete. Ignore the super slack chain, I just slapped one on there to pedal it around ever so gently the other night.

    It now sports a SS rear wheel with a Nashbar SS hub - thanks to my friend splat for that one. XT brake levers and a C-Dale OEM seatpost.

    Still need a true SS cog in back, a tensioner, and a chain and she'll be ready to roll.

    Whattya think of the head tube angle? hard to really judge from this craptastic photo, but I'd welcome your thoughts just the same.


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    Gary Fisher builds a HiFi 96'r - well kinda

    I just finished building a 96'r HiFi Pro using my front end off my GF Rig. No toe overlap and it feels real nice so far. I'll post some impressions after I give her a beatin' later today.

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    Derby.

    Some call it the 69er, some call it the 96er, I heard the 55er but this guy is the derby bike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by creepyfriendly
    Some call it the 69er, some call it the 96er, I heard the 55er but this guy is the derby bike.
    damn dude why not hand over that fork before some fat ass smashes it up in a derby
    oh well its a mountain bike part
    might as well tear it up
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    Here are some pics of my GF HiFi Pro 96er conversion. This bike rips!
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    Finished mine up last night - a few tweeks still needed but she's rideable!

    Finished up things on the Zion last night. Changed over to a shorter Ritchey Stem, threw on a couple of zip ties here and there and snapped some shots.

    I had to use a crapload of headset spacers to get my bar height fairly even with my saddle height so that looks kinda goofy, but it'll do for now.

    The bike is surprisingly quick and it feels pretty damned good, even though it may look a little odd.

    Here's a few shots I snapped last night. I want to thank everyone who had a hand in helping me get this thing built!










    Really a Mishmash of parts on this one:

    1. Zion 853 frame - given to me by a local guy
    2. Old XT square Taper Cranks with old square taper bb
    3. Salsa 34T chainring with RF bashguard - all these things from a fellow local rider for $20 and some beer - thanks Bob!
    4. Syncros seatpost from a guy on dirtrag.com - with my Fizik Nisene on top
    5. Ritchey Stem - super duper cheap via ebay
    6. No name suspension corrected disc fork - maybe a dimension? - $5.00 courtesy of A_A over on a few other forums (New England guy)
    7. Rear SS wheel compliments and on loan from splat with a Specialized Enduro 2.2 tire on it (Nashbar hub laced to Mavic 138 rim)
    9. Front wheel is a Bontrager Superstock with a WTB Exiwolf on it (compliments of a local 29er guy who sold me the complete 29er wheelset for $40! Crazy!) Thanks Toddre!!
    10. Surly 20T cog in back - (courtesy of a local guy with a QBP account)
    11. SRAM chain
    12. Surly Singleator thanks to bogey
    14. Avid Mechanical Disc brakes with some XT levers - XT Levers were from a Nemba Guy for like $15 I think.
    15. Oury clear tacky grips - I dig em! - $10 or so via ebay
    16. Salsa Promoto Flat bars - part of the package along with items 2 and 3
    17. Ringle Slamma Jamma headset - had it laying around in my parts bin and it went with the sweet bottle holder that came with the frame so I used it.
    18. Pedals - Time Atac Zs - however I might change to some silver Time Atac Aliums

    I think that covers it.
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    Mark,

    I have a few riser bars hanging around the house that I dont want, you can have one for nothing if you like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A_A
    Mark,

    I have a few riser bars hanging around the house that I dont want, you can have one for nothing if you like.

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    Thanks AA!

    I sent you a PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMcG
    Finished up things on the Zion last night. Changed over to a shorter Ritchey Stem, threw on a couple of zip ties here and there and snapped some shots.

    I had to use a crapload of headset spacers to get my bar height fairly even with my saddle height so that looks kinda goofy, but it'll do for now.

    The bike is surprisingly quick and it feels pretty damned good, even though it may look a little odd.

    Here's a few shots I snapped last night. I want to thank everyone who had a hand in helping me get this thing built!










    Really a Mishmash of parts on this one:

    1. Zion 853 frame - given to me by a local guy
    2. Old XT square Taper Cranks with old square taper bb
    3. Salsa 34T chainring with RF bashguard - all these things from a fellow local rider for $20 and some beer - thanks Bob!
    4. Syncros seatpost from a guy on dirtrag.com - with my Fizik Nisene on top
    5. Ritchey Stem - super duper cheap via ebay
    6. No name suspension corrected disc fork - maybe a dimension? - $5.00 courtesy of A_A over on a few other forums (New England guy)
    7. Rear SS wheel compliments and on loan from splat with a Specialized Enduro 2.2 tire on it (Nashbar hub laced to Mavic 138 rim)
    9. Front wheel is a Bontrager Superstock with a WTB Exiwolf on it (compliments of a local 29er guy who sold me the complete 29er wheelset for $40! Crazy!) Thanks Toddre!!
    10. Surly 20T cog in back - (courtesy of a local guy with a QBP account)
    11. SRAM chain
    12. Surly Singleator thanks to bogey
    14. Avid Mechanical Disc brakes with some XT levers - XT Levers were from a Nemba Guy for like $15 I think.
    15. Oury clear tacky grips - I dig em! - $10 or so via ebay
    16. Salsa Promoto Flat bars - part of the package along with items 2 and 3
    17. Ringle Slamma Jamma headset - had it laying around in my parts bin and it went with the sweet bottle holder that came with the frame so I used it.
    18. Pedals - Time Atac Zs - however I might change to some silver Time Atac Aliums

    I think that covers it.
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    I was gonna post tonight asking ..... are we there YET?!?!?!??!

    Had any real dirt time with it? Can you give any more specific info than "it feels pretty damned good"?

    And ..... what's the a2c on your fork??????????
    I ..... need ..... DIRT!!!!!

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    Looks great MMcG hope you enjoy and ride the H.E.DOUBLE HOCKEYSTICKS out of that bad boy. JC
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    I'd say the AC on the fork is probably 410 to 413mm - a tad short for good mud clearance. I think the ideal AC height for a 69er rigid set up is around 420-430mm - maybe 440 or so if you like a slack bike.

    Hopefully some real dirt (leaf) time on it this weekend. We shall see. This time of year is crazy busy for me because I have two sons who play travel ice hockey and I coach one of those teams (my youngest son's Mite B Travel team).

    May see how a Surly Instigator fork works on it - stay tuned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMcG
    I'd say the AC on the fork is probably 410 to 413mm - a tad short for good mud clearance. I think the ideal AC height for a 69er rigid set up is around 420-430mm - maybe 440 or so if you like a slack bike.

    Hopefully some real dirt (leaf) time on it this weekend. We shall see. This time of year is crazy busy for me because I have two sons who play travel ice hockey and I coach one of those teams (my youngest son's Mite B Travel team).

    May see how a Surly Instigator fork works on it - stay tuned.
    Thank you very much sir. Will stay tuned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AndrewTO
    Thank you very much sir. Will stay tuned.
    See my Zion thread for my initial ride report and reactions.

    To sum it up would = this

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    This way lies madness....

    This what started me on the path, four years ago.....

    Sugar 292 29er front triangle
    Sugar Team issue 26" rear end

    8 speed drivetrain and upside-down Mary Bars... a marriage made in heaven.

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    That Rumble looks pretty burly like that!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMcG
    That Rumble looks pretty burly like that!
    It's not as heavy as it looks, 25lb or so. I've only just put the Rebas on it (I was running Bonty Switchblades), handles nice, just takes a bit of getting used to the slower steering. XC use only, no jumping.

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    Quote Originally Posted by robkhoo
    It's not as heavy as it looks, 25lb or so. I've only just put the Rebas on it (I was running Bonty Switchblades), handles nice, just takes a bit of getting used to the slower steering. XC use only, no jumping.
    Didn't mean to imply that it looked heavy - just tha it looked tough and could handle a lot thrown at it. Nice bike.

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    Cheers bud . Rumble are great do it all frames, can't understand why more people don't ride them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mainemud
    This what started me on the path, four years ago.....

    Sugar 292 29er front triangle
    Sugar Team issue 26" rear end

    8 speed drivetrain and upside-down Mary Bars... a marriage made in heaven.

    Best,

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    Hmmm. That's pretty cool, how much rear travel do you get with that setup?
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    Siren Fifty-Five

    Here is one of my earlier Fifty-Fives, now I'm working with some nicer tubing & a slightly improved design. This is from a road trip last month.

    I'll post up some more pictures soon of newer bikes in pretty places. Keep your eyes peeled!
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    Siren Fifty-Five

    Here is one of my earlier Fifty-Fives, now I'm working with some nicer tubing & a slightly improved design. This is from a road trip last month.

    I'll post up some more pictures soon of newer bikes in pretty places. Keep your eyes peeled!
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    FS 96er.....

    2.8" or 4.1", depending on the adjustable link link. I live and ride in short-travel territory, so I have it set at 2.8". Seems pretty balanced with the Reba set at 80 mm.

    Our production bike is 3.3" with the 96er swingarm, and 3.6" with the 99er swingarm. Sorry about the crappy pic.....

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    Hmmm. That's pretty cool, how much rear travel do you get with that setup?
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    Heres a damn a 69er!

    Quote Originally Posted by rockhound
    Please post your 96er/69er pics.

    Let's keep it to pictures without the whole 29er vs. 96er debate, thanks. (if you want to debate it, start another thread )
    69er with 6" up front......
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    Quote Originally Posted by willby
    69er with 6" up front......
    Hey, that looks pretty ne - WHOA!!!!!!!!!!

    WHOA!!!!!!!!

    Okay, fess up - how is it?!?!?!?!?!? People have talked about it, but I think your's is the first (???) we've seen.

    Oh, and welcome to MTBR!

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    It tears ass! The bike was great, but just a temp thing. Check the 29er freakshow thread i started for more info on it. I rode it like this for 18 months. Just cut the headtube off yesterday and I am leaving for a 30 mile epic in the rain and mud in one hour(when my wife wakes up). I will give a fair comparison upon return. I am also trying a steep for me 70' head angle with the 29" front wheel i just installed. It was 67' before with the 26".

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    Slingshot was sweet!!!

    I had the chance to ride a Slingshot around a little that had a 26 rear and 29 front and it felt great. I'll try to get the guy that has it to post a picture.

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    Hey..put Shiggy"s Bike Back!

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    Sorry, a little off topic....
    HEHEHEHEE!

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    I found the Slingshot Picture

    Pretty cool looking bike and it handled great.
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    NOS Ti-Sport frame I picked up for $300 on-line a couple years ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PeanutButterBreath
    NOS Ti-Sport frame I picked up for $300 on-line a couple years ago.
    Ladies and gentleman!!!!! Introducing PeanutButterBreath, the newest person to add to my "I'm SO totally jealous so now I hate you because it's easier" list.

    Ti frame, nonetheless, so you're in the Top 5 for sure. Damn that's just so close to perfect. I hate you.
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    Thanks for the kind words. Its a fun bike for sure. I gave my KM away a few weeks ago to a friend who needed one bike to replace his roadie & Trek Fuel, so this is my only MTB. I almost don't miss having a full-on 29er when I ride it.

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    Rig 69er

    My GF Rig 96er.
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    Very nice, but that is a 96'er.

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    Quote Originally Posted by willby
    Very nice, but that is a 96'er.
    Looks like a red Xer to me.

    Wanna try that one again, Uzzi?
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    Sorry, id10t error

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    Quote Originally Posted by UzziDH
    My GF Rig 96er.
    Ouch. Pedal strike city...

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    I'm not sure I get the reasoning behind putting the 26" rear wheel on a Rig.

    My Zion 96er works great and it was what I was able to build with what I had available and could get inexpensively. But if I had a full on 29er Single Speed, I think that's what I'd be rollin in that mode.

    Although I don't think I can go back to dual 26" wheels. Tried it for a bit last night with dual 26" wheels on my rigid Zion and then went out and rode a bit with the 96er set up and that was a much nicer ride than dual 26" wheels.

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    Bruce, I think it just looks that way because of hill I parked it on for the picture. I don't think I ever hit a pedal on the ground. The EBB makes it nice though since you can spin it so the BB is at the highest point in the shell.

    MMcG, I did it because I could and I wanted to see how it worked. It's not like I went out and bought a 26 disk wheel so I could try it. I had a spare wheel laying around. Don't you ever try new things? If I didn't try new things I'd still be riding a FS Geared bike. Although I didn't leave the bike like this it was fun to try. The bike seemed to handle almost the same but it would accelerate faster with a smaller/lighter rear wheel.

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    I apologize, my comments were a bit harsh. Chalk it up to early morning posting without enough coffee in me. Who am I to judge right?

    I commend you for experimenting, hell I'm experimenting with my set up too. Just in reverse of you - using a 26" frame vs. doing it with a 29" frame.

    In addition to the increased acceleration, did you also notice a harsher feel over roots and rocks vs. the 29er wheel in back? That's what I notice with my 96er set up. The front works just the same, but I can feel the hits to the rear wheel to a greater extent than when I had a dedicated 29er (first a Karate Monkey and second and EMD 9). Did you get more pedal strikes with this set up on the Rig? One thing that is actually a plus with my set up on the Zion is that the 29"front wheel raised the bottom bracket height just a little bit, and for where I ride, that is a good thing.

    I still want to add a full on 29er to my stable come 2007.

    Cheers,

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    Quote Originally Posted by UzziDH
    Bruce, I think it just looks that way because of hill I parked it on for the picture. I don't think I ever hit a pedal on the ground. The EBB makes it nice though since you can spin it so the BB is at the highest point in the shell.
    When dialed in at the highest point for the BB, what is the clearance (center of BB to ground)? Of course you could put some big meat rubber on the rear wheel to jack up the BB clearance, but I'm sure that would increase pedal effort due to weight and rolling resistance.

    BB

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMcG
    I apologize, my comments were a bit harsh. Chalk it up to early morning posting without enough coffee in me. Who am I to judge right?

    I commend you for experimenting, hell I'm experimenting with my set up too. Just in reverse of you - using a 26" frame vs. doing it with a 29" frame.

    In addition to the increased acceleration, did you also notice a harsher feel over roots and rocks vs. the 29er wheel in back? That's what I notice with my 96er set up. The front works just the same, but I can feel the hits to the rear wheel to a greater extent than when I had a dedicated 29er (first a Karate Monkey and second and EMD 9). Did you get more pedal strikes with this set up on the Rig? One thing that is actually a plus with my set up on the Zion is that the 29"front wheel raised the bottom bracket height just a little bit, and for where I ride, that is a good thing.

    I still want to add a full on 29er to my stable come 2007.

    Cheers,

    Mark
    Mark, it's ok. I've been known to do the same in the past. Like when I first saw people riding SS. I would think "why would anyone only want one gear". Then they started passing me at the races so I really thought WTF? That was about 5 years ago, now I have 4 SS bikes myself.

    You are correct about the harsh feel over the bumps. That was the only other thing I noticed. On the sharp bumps like rocks and roots you definitely feel it more.

    One more thing I notice is that for a mud race a 29" frame with 26" wheels is the trick setup. Tons of mud clearance.

    As far as pedal strikes. When you run a smaller rear wheel you need to also run a smaller rear cog. Which is great because with an EBB you can spin the BB to the top of the shell giving you more ground clearance for the pedals.
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    Kind of Off Topic

    I have a titus locomoto frame I want to build up, I also have a kona unit 29er i love. My question is, If I put on a reba 29 or possibly a maverick with the hub conversion is that going to ruin the geometry of my frame? I don't want to spend money on something thats going to suck. Can anyone enlighten me?

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    I think a good FS frame to try the 96er concept out on would be a specialized Enduro. With that frame (well the 2002-2004s) you can adjust bb height and HT angle I believe.

    Here's an example of one set up really nice.
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    My thought process behind the titus is that it was made for a four to six inch travel fork. So theoretically if it can be ridden with a six inch dual crown, a reba 80mm and a 29 inch front shouldn't rake it too much, does that make sense? let me know if I'm totally wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by galbraithrider
    My thought process behind the titus is that it was made for a four to six inch travel fork. So theoretically if it can be ridden with a six inch dual crown, a reba 80mm and a 29 inch front shouldn't rake it too much, does that make sense? let me know if I'm totally wrong.
    You need a 29er fork that will have an axle-to-crown length that is about 31mm shorter than what it originally would have been equipped with.

    Basically the 29er front wheel and tire will raise the front axle approximately 31mm, so you need a fork that will compensate and get the headtube in the same distance from the ground.

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    Thanks rockhound, I think I'm going to go for it with a reba or possibly a maverick sc fork. Maybe a converted lefty, not quite sure but i'll definately post a pic when I'm done. I've been riding slack trailbikes for the past two years anyways, I have my Kona Unit 29er for all my cross country needs anyways. I love that bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by galbraithrider
    Thanks rockhound, I think I'm going to go for it with a reba or possibly a maverick sc fork. Maybe a converted lefty, not quite sure but i'll definately post a pic when I'm done. I've been riding slack trailbikes for the past two years anyways, I have my Kona Unit 29er for all my cross country needs anyways. I love that bike.
    Did you try it with the Locomoto??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trailer Rails
    How does it ride? I was thinking of an Epic, but when I messured the 29er front end it was to tall. I was thinking a Maverick SC on a new Epic. Endurance riding machine?

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    I need a rigid fork for my Kona before I try it with the loco. I guess I could just do a mock up and post the pics for you guys, maybe tomorrow night.

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    Quote Originally Posted by galbraithrider
    I need a rigid fork for my Kona before I try it with the loco. I guess I could just do a mock up and post the pics for you guys, maybe tomorrow night.
    Give it a quick mockup and trial run and let us know.

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    its been done before, but this is mine

    http://togoparts.com/showroom/viewpi...2232639665.jpg

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    new 69er

    different frame other parts







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    Quote Originally Posted by singlestoph
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    I was wondering how long it would take you to drop the Fox.

    Nice build. Interesting paint on the seat - primer and paint, or ..... ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AndrewTO
    I was wondering how long it would take you to drop the Fox.

    Nice build. Interesting paint on the seat - primer and paint, or ..... ?
    pink leather, but too old the color comes off when riding

    the fox was good for that thing

    http://www.eingangrad.de/wbb/thread....hilightuser=64

    the green bike that i ve posted before has not much space for thick tires 2" not more , that one is better

    so i will ride the other as xc racer with narrow tires and fox fork 26/26

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    The seed of my obsession....

    My FrankenFisher. This is what started me down the slippery slope a few years ago. Sugar 292 front...Team Sugar 26 rear swingarm. Still love it...

    Best,

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    96ered SASS.



    How does... or did it ride? It rode great, but then I am not much to discriminate. If you can't ride any of 'em, then you can't ride any of 'em.


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    Quote Originally Posted by mainemud
    My FrankenFisher. This is what started me down the slippery slope a few years ago. Sugar 292 front...Team Sugar 26 rear swingarm. Still love it...

    Best,

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    Look out, Davis is loosing it! (you already posted it ).

    Is your P.M. box open, Davis? Got a few Q's for you.
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    Alright, now that my back is feeling better and I can move a bike around ..... my first 96er!

    Bunch of parts came from fellow MTBR members (thanks again to all of you!).

    Frame is an early century Eclipse titanium. Really nice feel to it no matter what wheels are on it. Thanks to DeeEight for this find. Life long dream realized!
    Fork(s) should look familliar from MMcG's posts. These pics are with the shorter Dimension (?) fork.
    Bunch of other parts were raped and pillaged from The Bastard for familiarity and because that bike probably won't see my ass anymore.
    Front wheel and tire(s) are from Peter (nogearshere) at Misfit Psycles. Misfit disc hub, Phil Wood spokes and a WTB SpeedDisc rim. I picked up a WTB ExiWolf (on the bike) and a WeirWolf "for good measure" (hey, i'm a tire nut, can't have enough rubber layin' around!). Sadly, the WW doesn't fit too well in the shorter fork. That's okay, i'm sure it'll fit juuuust fine with what's coming next.

    The pics with this post are with the Dimension fork. The Zion fork (also from MMcG) makes the bike feel like ..... well, let's just say it would make a DH bike feel "twitchy"! (you'll see it later, just as a joke!).

    Only a couple of laps around the block here at home with this set up, pavement and the laws of various neighbours (shhh, don't tell!), but it's definetly (absolutely, positively!) better than a full 26er. The front almost feels suspended, but without the weight. Heavier wheel up front isn't as noticeable to accelerate (gee I wonder why? ...... being sarcastic!) as I thought it would be and there's a bigger pay-off for the larger diameter than the weight detracts from.

    HTA is right about 69*. Liveable.
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