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    2020 Giant Reign 29er

    https://reviews.mtbr.com/giant-reign...weight-details

    https://flowmountainbike.com/tests/f...ed-pro-29er-0/

    This bike looks amazing. 65 deg HTA, 76.8 deg STA, 160mm Front, 146mm Rear travel.

    What do people think?

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    I think it ticks a lot of boxes for a great riding bike but..... the colour.... it's a hard pass from me solely on that frame colour.

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    Yeah the reviews say there's an issue with the brake disc rubbing on climbs. Giant apparently are trying to get it sorted. That might be a deal breaker for me

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    I was actually about to put a deposit down for the new Santa Cruz Hightower, but now I think I might wait until I can ride a new Reign first.

    The reviewers whining about brake rubbing make me nervous, but... my first full suspension bike was Reign and that bike was seriously good. Seeing them finally put together a decent redesign is making me feel all nostalgic for my old Reign..

    The Advanced Pro 1 build looks like a good value (way better than the build on the $5k Santa Cruz I'm considering). And you can't complain about all black.

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    I think Giant nailed it with this one, finally. I've had two old 26 Reigns and always think about building another one. Every number on this one really hits the mark for me.

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    I have been waiting on this bike for quite some time. My first bike back in 03 was a Gaint VT1. I took parts from that bike and built an 05 Reign. Rode that bike all over the west for 10 years till the wheels fell off.

    My son has a 18 Trance 27.5 which is an amazing bike. Im hoping the new Reign is that bike with big wheels.

    Hopefully it was worth the wait for the last 2 years for this bike to come out.


    Kinda of shocked there has been very little fan fair with the roll out compared when they released the Trance 29.

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    Quote Originally Posted by driver bob View Post
    I think it ticks a lot of boxes for a great riding bike but..... the colour.... it's a hard pass from me solely on that frame colour.
    Funny that you say that. I thought the same thing until I saw the bike in person. Absolutely stunning
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    I have a pro 1 coming on the first shipment in October, coming from an Evil Wreckoning and SC HT LT I’m excited to see how this turns out.

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    I'm planning on picking up a reign 29, not the advanced 0, though! It's probably more bike than I need, but looks like so much fun. I had an '05 Reign when it first came out. Loved that bike and am looking forward to riding a Maestro suspension again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jollyjared View Post
    I was actually about to put a deposit down for the new Santa Cruz Hightower, but now I think I might wait until I can ride a new Reign first.

    The reviewers whining about brake rubbing make me nervous, but... my first full suspension bike was Reign and that bike was seriously good. Seeing them finally put together a decent redesign is making me feel all nostalgic for my old Reign..

    The Advanced Pro 1 build looks like a good value (way better than the build on the $5k Santa Cruz I'm considering). And you can't complain about all black.
    I really wanted a hightower too but man the price and specs are way better on the Giant. Geo looks good on both bikes, both probably will descend really well and I bet with Giants stolen DW link they should both pedal decent too

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brooken View Post
    I really wanted a hightower too but man the price and specs are way better on the Giant. Geo looks good on both bikes, both probably will descend really well and I bet with Giants stolen DW link they should both pedal decent too
    Proof that they stole it? Or are you just repeating what you heard or read?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Biohazard74 View Post
    Proof that they stole it? Or are you just repeating what you heard or read?
    I was mostly just kidding, but I hope it is very similar. DW works great

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brooken View Post
    I was mostly just kidding, but I hope it is very similar. DW works great
    My apologies. I remember when all that BS was going down. But you're right. They are both amazing design. I don't own a Giant atm but have had 2 Maestro bikes and IMO ahead of all the designs. Probably still the best. I bought a Santa Cruz Hightower but if I'd of known about a 29er Reign I probably would have waited.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Biohazard74 View Post
    My apologies. I remember when all that BS was going down. But you're right. They are both amazing design. I don't own a Giant atm but have had 2 Maestro bikes and IMO ahead of all the designs. Probably still the best. I bought a Santa Cruz Hightower but if I'd of known about a 29er Reign I probably would have waited.
    No worries, I shouldn't attempt sarcasm online haha. How do you like the hightower? I've narrowed it down to it and the reign for my next bike. But I was told to wait until the new norco sight is released too

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    will be looking forward to your reckoning/reign 29 comparison!

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    I was so stoked for the new Reign 29 as well. I too had the original 05 Reign and loved it.
    I was gonna pick up the AL Reign for a second big bike .


    But then Ibis dropped the Ripmo AF. 3k for full DVO suspension

    Just got back from Moab and my buddy had one. It rocked

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    anyone know frame weights? carbon vs aluminum?

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    Quote Originally Posted by murrdogg11 View Post
    anyone know frame weights? carbon vs aluminum?
    If I can remember to take my scale, I can weigh in my large carbon frame when I get to work tomorrow
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    Quote Originally Posted by murrdogg11 View Post
    anyone know frame weights? carbon vs aluminum?
    Large carbon frame with shock and rear thru axle is 6.8 lbs
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    Jwiffle, according to some measurements of M frame online, it looks like the virtual top tube is slightly shorter than specified and an effective seat angle is steeper.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHy87ycRWow

    https://forums.mtbr.com/giant/reign-...l#post14358571

    I am not sure how far are you with your build, but could you measure the effective top tube on L frame, to se how it correlates to the slightly shorter measurement on M frame?

    Tnx

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    I have been waiting a long time for this bike. But sizing is so way off. Not sure why such a huge difference between reach of M and L.

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    thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by fiveo View Post
    I have been waiting a long time for this bike. But sizing is so way off. Not sure why such a huge difference between reach of M and L.
    I was also on the fence regarding the sizing, but still bought reign 29 alu 1 in L on Friday. It is in no way to big for me. Pedaling position is much more comfortable than on L trance 27.5. And while descending, I feel much more stable on the bike, because spread between feet and hands is bigger. (183cm, 88cm inseam). I fellt like an inverted pendulum on the trance.

    I don't feel like I am on the lower and on the sizing chart, so even if you are few centimeters smaller than me, I think you should try it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by s-master View Post
    Jwiffle, according to some measurements of M frame online, it looks like the virtual top tube is slightly shorter than specified and an effective seat angle is steeper.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHy87ycRWow

    https://forums.mtbr.com/giant/reign-...l#post14358571

    I am not sure how far are you with your build, but could you measure the effective top tube on L frame, to se how it correlates to the slightly shorter measurement on M frame?

    Tnx
    Should have it done in the next day or two. I'll measure and get back.
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    Hey, I bought size L on Friday and found, that TT length is around 630mm. In the geometry charts it is 640. But I did not measure reach yet, because the measurement is a bit more involved, if you want it to be accurate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jwiffle View Post
    Should have it done in the next day or two. I'll measure and get back.
    By my crude measuring, I get around 640 (maybe it's like 635? I'm terrible with a ruler).

    At any rate, it's close enough for me to think Giant measured accurately, so it probably is 640.
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    Got my Reign all built up. Will get an actual ride on it Saturday (maybe tomorrow night if I'm lucky). I'll do a separate thread with full build details.
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    Looks sweet - love to hear some thoughts on it! I've been eyeing up the Reign as a possible next bike. I've never really liked Giant's stuff before, but they look to have done a really good job with this one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenix864 View Post
    Looks sweet - love to hear some thoughts on it! I've been eyeing up the Reign as a possible next bike. I've never really liked Giant's stuff before, but they look to have done a really good job with this one.
    I'll give a ride report after the weekend in the thread I started in the Giant forum. But if it rides half as good as it looks, it'll be killer!
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    I put an order in for 20 Reign 29 aluminum.

    I am 6ft1 with long arms and torso. I tried a Rocky Instinct BC Ed in XL and I found it to stretched out while seated. The top tube was 657mm.

    The reign L with a top tube of 640 would be the better bet over the XL, correct?

    Anyone with roughly my height and longer arms try the Reign?

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    Quote Originally Posted by arctic_rogue View Post
    I put an order in for 20 Reign 29 aluminum.

    I am 6ft1 with long arms and torso. I tried a Rocky Instinct BC Ed in XL and I found it to stretched out while seated. The top tube was 657mm.

    The reign L with a top tube of 640 would be the better bet over the XL, correct?

    Anyone with roughly my height and longer arms try the Reign?
    I'm about the same. Just under 6'1". Large is good for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jwiffle View Post
    I'm about the same. Just under 6'1". Large is good for me.
    Perfect! Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by -d-a-v-e- View Post
    Yeah the reviews say there's an issue with the brake disc rubbing on climbs. Giant apparently are trying to get it sorted. That might be a deal breaker for me
    Yes, I am also reading some comments on this. I am very interested in the new Reign 2020 as my first mtb 29" but... I am afraid that this problem is a defect at the start.

    Does anyone have updates?!


    Thanks a lot!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyashan Yosa Buson View Post
    Yes, I am also reading some comments on this. I am very interested in the new Reign 2020 as my first mtb 29" but... I am afraid that this problem is a defect at the start.

    Does anyone have updates?!


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    Mine has no issue brake rub
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jwiffle View Post
    Mine has no issue brake rub
    Hi Jwiffle!

    Thank you so much for your valuable feedback

    I'm looking for user experiences on the new Reign 29 " but it seems so hard to find. Maybe because this bike was launched some moths ago.

    I think the Reign is a great product. The "Maestro" does a great job! I would like to use a coil shock (eg: FOX DHX2 TwoPos) instead the X2 that mounts. Now I'm using the X2 on my Intense Tracer 275C and I'm really curious to try the coil. What is your Oponion boys?!

    Hello, k

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyashan Yosa Buson View Post
    Yes, I am also reading some comments on this. I am very interested in the new Reign 2020 as my first mtb 29" but... I am afraid that this problem is a defect at the start.

    Does anyone have updates?!


    Thanks a lot!
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    Was also worried about brake rub. I've been for a long ride on my Reign Advanced Pro 1 with zero problems.

    I've been surprised how much stiffer the Reign 29er it is than my trance 29er
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    The guys at "the Path" podcast just buildup a new Reign.
    The updates sound pretty sweet...
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    Everyone here who owned an '05 Reign needs to post a pic! I loved mine. Never should have sold it but the price I was offered was too good!
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    Sold my his and hers 05 reigns two years ago. Those bikes were awesome. I’ll try and find some pics.

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    Any here have a reign sx 29er and play with spring rates yet? I'm waiting for mine to show up and need to figure out what spring to order, I'm 235 lbs in gear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dsully575 View Post
    Everyone here who owned an '05 Reign needs to post a pic! I loved mine. Never should have sold it but the price I was offered was too good!
    This is still in my profile! Pic is from 2006.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ezzzy View Post
    Was also worried about brake rub. I've been for a long ride on my Reign Advanced Pro 1 with zero problems.

    I've been surprised how much stiffer the Reign 29er it is than my trance 29er
    I recently rode the Pro 1 29, it was a great bike (I currently Have the Trance pro 1 29), it climbed very well (not as good as Trance (85%?) The Brake rub/drag was a real problem only on steep climbing . It Descends amazing! Jumping very nimble & plush ,A bit of a monster truck to trail ride, I think with a 2nd (lighter Tyre/wheelset combo) might help this? Overall I think my Trance is a better all around bike. In saying that if I was having 2 bikes ,maybe an Anthem 29 & Reign 29? Just my Thoughts.

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    anyone have aluminum frame weight?

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    As per giant Germany's website, it looks as though the reign 29 2 is about 2 lbs heavier than the reign advanced pro 29 1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arctic_rogue View Post
    As per giant Germany's website, it looks as though the reign 29 2 is about 2 lbs heavier than the reign advanced pro 29 1.
    that's helpful thank you

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    A bit more detailed update. I own both a Trance 29er pro 1 and a Reign 29er pro 1.

    For the weight weenies the Trance (TRX1 carbon wheels) with upgraded carbon bars, carbon cranks, rear cushcore, 2.5 minions front and back, and XTR pedals is 13.75kg. The Reign (TR1 alloy wheels) including bash guard,rear cushcore and XTR pedals is 14.8kg

    From my measurements, and it's difficult to compare directly without removing tyres, the Alloy TR1s on the Reign weigh around a 100 gms more per wheel than the carbon TRX1s on the Trance.

    I did upgrade the Trance to Code RSC brakes... one word, deluxe. Coming from Shimano I just love the Codes, beautiful modulation and never fade. The Reign comes standard with Code RSCs.

    I'm an average rider, something to bear in mind with these comments. On flat and windy tracks the Reign is nearly as nimble as the Trance, I actually feel more stable on berms. It's a lot of fun, but I'd say the Trance is quicker.

    As soon as there are rock gardens the Reign just feels point and shoot, while with the Trance it's more important to pick lines. I'm a lot quicker through rough terrain on the Reign, I found myself just charging through some stuff that previously I was careful with.

    Jumps and drop-offs, the Trance is a lot of fun and poppy. The Trance suspension is great until it runs out. With the Reign I've hit some drop offs that I avoided or felt a bit sketchy on with the Trance. The Reign is again just point and shoot, I've hit some jumps and drop offs that I'd never been game to and it was too easy, it's really a buttery smooth feeling suspension with no noticable flex.

    The Fox suspension on the Reign, 36mm Grip 2 forks and X2 shock, is just incredible. I thought the Trance was smooth, and it is better on small bumps, but once the speed picks up and there are bigger hits the Reign is like a magic carpet.

    Climbing, the Trance is just better, maybe 20-30%. The Reign is really good but I seem to fatigue quicker and I suspect its the more forward riding position. I'm finding that I'm using muscles differently to what I'm used to.

    I was thinking of selling the Trance but I'm keeping it for trails and mild enduro. I did take it to Maydena and Derby, and while we survived I was definitely on the limit a lot. I'm pretty sure I cracked the frame on a big jump, it was replaced under warranty no questions asked. Which by the way is one thing that keeps me coming back to Giant, they stand by their products no questions asked

    So two great bikes, amazing kit, and great value for money.

    Brake rub on the Reign. First ride nothing, then second ride it was suddenly there. When I got home I found that the two main lower suspension bolts were loose and the brake caliper wasn't correctly aligned. Problem solved. There is a bit of flex in the rear triangle so if the calipers aren't set properly there will be some rub. And setting the calipers is a fiddly job.

    Final verdict, love the bike, it's made me a better rider and just so much fun to ride.

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    thatnks for the review, Im pretty close to pulling trigger on an advanced 1, funny the web site says Code R's but yeah the one is the shop had RSC's, I also bought it right then before they noticed haha. good to know about the brake rub thing, I never understood what people meant, does the frame flexes that much when pedalling up hill? it must bend in half when you square off a berm?

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    @ezzzy - what size frame reign? Cheers for above feedback too

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    Quote Originally Posted by ezzzy View Post
    A bit more detailed update. I own both a Trance 29er pro 1 and a Reign 29er pro 1.

    For the weight weenies the Trance (TRX1 carbon wheels) with upgraded carbon bars, carbon cranks, rear cushcore, 2.5 minions front and back, and XTR pedals is 13.75kg. The Reign (TR1 alloy wheels) including bash guard,rear cushcore and XTR pedals is 14.8kg

    From my measurements, and it's difficult to compare directly without removing tyres, the Alloy TR1s on the Reign weigh around a 100 gms more per wheel than the carbon TRX1s on the Trance.

    I did upgrade the Trance to Code RSC brakes... one word, deluxe. Coming from Shimano I just love the Codes, beautiful modulation and never fade. The Reign comes standard with Code RSCs.

    I'm an average rider, something to bear in mind with these comments. On flat and windy tracks the Reign is nearly as nimble as the Trance, I actually feel more stable on berms. It's a lot of fun, but I'd say the Trance is quicker.

    As soon as there are rock gardens the Reign just feels point and shoot, while with the Trance it's more important to pick lines. I'm a lot quicker through rough terrain on the Reign, I found myself just charging through some stuff that previously I was careful with.

    Jumps and drop-offs, the Trance is a lot of fun and poppy. The Trance suspension is great until it runs out. With the Reign I've hit some drop offs that I avoided or felt a bit sketchy on with the Trance. The Reign is again just point and shoot, I've hit some jumps and drop offs that I'd never been game to and it was too easy, it's really a buttery smooth feeling suspension with no noticable flex.

    The Fox suspension on the Reign, 36mm Grip 2 forks and X2 shock, is just incredible. I thought the Trance was smooth, and it is better on small bumps, but once the speed picks up and there are bigger hits the Reign is like a magic carpet.

    Climbing, the Trance is just better, maybe 20-30%. The Reign is really good but I seem to fatigue quicker and I suspect its the more forward riding position. I'm finding that I'm using muscles differently to what I'm used to.

    I was thinking of selling the Trance but I'm keeping it for trails and mild enduro. I did take it to Maydena and Derby, and while we survived I was definitely on the limit a lot. I'm pretty sure I cracked the frame on a big jump, it was replaced under warranty no questions asked. Which by the way is one thing that keeps me coming back to Giant, they stand by their products no questions asked

    So two great bikes, amazing kit, and great value for money.

    Brake rub on the Reign. First ride nothing, then second ride it was suddenly there. When I got home I found that the two main lower suspension bolts were loose and the brake caliper wasn't correctly aligned. Problem solved. There is a bit of flex in the rear triangle so if the calipers aren't set properly there will be some rub. And setting the calipers is a fiddly job.

    Final verdict, love the bike, it's made me a better rider and just so much fun to ride.
    Nice review, ezzzy! Btw, Giant now offers 2 years of FREE crash replacement on all carbon products, including frames and rims. And a steep discount for another 4. This is for damage that is NOT covered by warranty. I don't think anyone else offers such protection.
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    Answer to the questions:
    1. I'm 178cm 5'10" and comfortably ride a large, but leg and torso length as well as flexibility come into it.
    2. The brake rub is a design issue. Technically it comes from the torque when pedaling which is applied at an offset, and different to normal radial loads that come up through the tyre. Haven't noticed brake rub when descending but it's probably still occurring occasionally when cornering hard. Looking at the design switching to a 180mm rotor would probably completely eliminate it, not ideal.

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    Some of the Reigns pro1 are coming with RSCs at the moment, must be a supply thing. That and price pushed me over the line

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    Thanks ezzzy. Im 180 so it seems the large will be 👌

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    Quote Originally Posted by ezzzy View Post
    Answer to the questions:
    1. I'm 178cm 5'10" and comfortably ride a large, but leg and torso length as well as flexibility come into it.
    2. The brake rub is a design issue. Technically it comes from the torque when pedaling which is applied at an offset, and different to normal radial loads that come up through the tyre. Haven't noticed brake rub when descending but it's probably still occurring occasionally when cornering hard. Looking at the design switching to a 180mm rotor would probably completely eliminate it, not ideal.
    I have not had the brake rub, though I put a 180 rotor on freon the get go. I'd have to look at it more closely to see why a larger rotor would keep the brake from rubbing. I'd have thought it would be more likely to rub with a larger rotor.
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    1. Is the brake rub issue only happening on the carbon models?
    And how are people finding the standover and seat tube length?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryando View Post
    1. Is the brake rub issue only happening on the carbon models?
    And how are people finding the standover and seat tube length?
    I'm almost 6'1" on a large. Plenty of standover. Running a 175mm dropper, could probably have run a 200mm.
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    The brake rub is a first generation rear carbon triangle problem.

    Why will 180 rotors reduce the problem compared to 200mm rotors? Without getting too technicl because the tip of the rotor moves about 15% less distance for any given deflection, and that's probably enough to stop the rub.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jwiffle View Post
    I have not had the brake rub, though I put a 180 rotor on freon the get go. I'd have to look at it more closely to see why a larger rotor would keep the brake from rubbing. I'd have thought it would be more likely to rub with a larger rotor.
    Why did you change rotors?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ezzzy View Post
    Why did you change rotors?
    I built mine up from a frame. I chose 200 front, 180 rear to start
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    Got a large reign advanced pro 1 about 3 weeks ago, fun bike to ride and spec'd well for the price.
    Rear brake rub while climbing was apparent right away ( annoying), changed to a 180 rear rotor and improved a lot still a slight rub but very minimal, I did check the torque on suspension linkage and mine were all good.

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    The brake rub is annoying as hell. I did a race in Eureka Springs a few weeks ago and almost anytime you put down a good amount of power regardless of climbing or not the brakes would have a constant squeal. It felt that it was causing the bike to drag a bit too. It was kind of embarrassing with a bunch of people around as the bike looks killer and everyone's impressed with it.

    One thing I did eventually notice was that if i squeezed the brakes just slightly and held it the brake rubbing would stop. I tried to align it but it has the 2nd adapter for the 203 brakes in the rear and it was kind of difficult with my multi tool to loosen the bolts and haven't had a chance to mess with it again. I'm hoping it's mostly an alignment issue and that the brake rubbing happens sporadically. As it was I would get rid of the bike and its a shame because I feel it takes the best aspects of my old Evil Wreckoning and Santa Cruz HT LT (plush like the wreckor, pedals like the SC HT LT)

    Also mine came with Code RSC brakes, super awesome.

    EDIT: Also with the 42 mm offset fork, the bike is super stable but twitchy as hell. Still trying to get used to it.

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    So having played around quite a bit with the brake rub problem, here's the solution that works for me.

    Firstly there is definitely a small amount of flex in the rear triangle, but it's miniscule and not catastrophic.

    The brake calipers have to be perfectly centred and aliged. Not something that I've had to do before but no big deal. Turns out my visual approach isn't quite accurate enough.

    First I aligned the calipers visually, and rode the bike a bit.

    Then I used a 0.15mm feeler gauge to set the gaps equally on both sides of the disc between the front and back of the pads and the disc.

    You have to check both front and back on both sides because there are four pistons and they don't all move equally.

    Test ride, recheck and all done. Problem solved, actually quicker and a lot more accurate than the visual approach.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryando View Post
    1. Is the brake rub issue only happening on the carbon models?
    And how are people finding the standover and seat tube length?
    im on a large sx 29er and standover is awesome, i can easily run a 210mm one up dropper.

    no brake rub issues on my bike with magura mt5's.

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    Brake rub is only on carbon. Mine's pretty well sorted.

    Also changed to organic pads.

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    Anyone know how many volume spacers come on the X2 Performance shock that comes on the Advanced Pro 1?

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    Quote Originally Posted by arctic_rogue View Post
    Anyone know how many volume spacers come on the X2 Performance shock that comes on the Advanced Pro 1?
    I'm going to guess either 0 or 1 small one, the frame is progressive enough for a coil so I doubt you would need one in an air can.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jason114 View Post
    I'm going to guess either 0 or 1 small one, the frame is progressive enough for a coil so I doubt you would need one in an air can.
    Good to know, thanks!

    I have a take off from the Adv Pro 1 for my Aluminum 2 model. Should be a nice upgrade

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    Been thinking about getting the Advanced Pro 1 as my first full suspension, but worried about the brake rub issue.

    Do you guys recommend this bike?

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    "Been thinking about getting the Advanced Pro 1 as my first full suspension, but worried about the brake rub issue"


    ^^^THIS^^^

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlDrag View Post
    Been thinking about getting the Advanced Pro 1 as my first full suspension, but worried about the brake rub issue.

    Do you guys recommend this bike?
    I do. I love it. I don't have a brake rub issue. My bike is not stock, though
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    I have a Pro 0. Medium (I’m 174cm)
    Compared to my “sorted” 2017 Trance Advanced 1 (27.5”).
    The bike feels a bit “bigger”, but shorter between the seat and bars. It has a longer “reach”, but the steeper seat makes the difference.

    I tried a 10mm longer stem. More cockpit room, but I didn’t like the feel of the steering (both changes minor, obviously).
    Being over 50yo (I hate that!) I had the stem set high - you know “less flexable”.
    At the suggestion of my coach, I put the stock stem at the lowest setting (all spacers above)
    Combined with “getting used to it” maybe. The cockpit now feels great. (I also cut the bars from 800 to 780 - I like wide bars)

    I felt the forks were harsh, (HSC/LSC fully open) and the bars too rigid (Older model Truvita 35mm Carbon)

    I ordered One Up bars, and sent the forks for “Hand assembly” and low friction seals.
    Much better, so much so, that the stock bars feels better! (Haven’t fitted the “Extra compliant” One Up bars yet)

    The suspension gurus advised me the forks have “divergent” damping (Hard to get moving - to “hold up in the stroke”)

    I still wouldn’t rate them “Plush”. Maybe I don’t ride hard enough.

    I think I have heard the “brake rub” twice, when putting in a “big pedal” climbing. Maybe I don’t pedal hard enough.
    Certainly not an issue for me, and I’ll recheck the caliper alignment (which I think is “good” - OCD amateur bike mechanic.)

    My first 29er - I’ve “buzzed” my ass a few times on the back tire - full “attack position” on the jumps.
    Once, more than “buzzed” -fully “sucked” into the seat/seat post - I do not recommend this.

    If I could adjust the geometry, I’d consider going 29/27.5.

    The 18 tooth freewheel is a disgrace on a bike in this price point. I’ve spent the A$200 for the 54t upgrade.

    The stock CF/Giant/DT Swiss wheels are great IMHO.

    Currently I’m running some demo Zipp MotoZero3 wheels. (A$3500)
    Slightly more complient through the rock gardens.
    Slightly heavier!

    The green frame looks sensational when clean, in direct sun.
    Looks crap in all other circumstances.
    I really don’t care about from colour.

    The bike is my 3rd Carbon Giant. (2012, 2017 Trances, 2020 Reign)
    The warranty, and LBS service are factors in my decision
    I also rate the Maestro suspension.

    I ride it almost every day - and love it.
    Ride the 2017 Trance almost everyday - when I’m away at work - love it too.
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    Any tall riders riding this? I’m 6’7 with a 37” inseam and trying to see if the XL would be big enough. The stack height is kinda low.

    Looking at the reign 29 in AL, or a Hightower in XXL, but obviously don’t like the spec/price of the Hightower and would rather get the reign if it will fit


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    Hoping for some clarification... I'm building up a 29 sx and using 203mm shimano rotors. I ordered two shimano f203p/pm adapters thinking that the rear/ frame would be standard 180mm rotor without adapters. It fits fine for the fork. But it doesn't give enough height to clear the rotor on the rear. Do I actually need a f203p/p adapter for the rear?
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    Quote Originally Posted by meschenbruch View Post
    Hoping for some clarification... I'm building up a 29 sx and using 203mm shimano rotors. I ordered two shimano f203p/pm adapters thinking that the rear/ frame would be standard 180mm rotor without adapters. It fits fine for the fork. But it doesn't give enough height to clear the rotor on the rear. Do I actually need a f203p/p adapter for the rear?
    Thanks!
    Not sure of the part numbers.
    My Carbon Pro zero came with 200mm rotors
    Front spacer is 14mm thick one end 4mm the other. (Fox 36 forks)
    The rear spacer is 17.5 both ends.

    Not sure if that helps, but on mine at least the F&R are different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by meschenbruch View Post
    Hoping for some clarification... I'm building up a 29 sx and using 203mm shimano rotors. I ordered two shimano f203p/pm adapters thinking that the rear/ frame would be standard 180mm rotor without adapters. It fits fine for the fork. But it doesn't give enough height to clear the rotor on the rear. Do I actually need a f203p/p adapter for the rear?
    Thanks!
    Yeah, that's the one you need, the rear mount is for 160mm

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