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    2018 fuel ex8 or 2017 fuel ex 9

    Looking to upgrade from my X-Cal 9 to either of the above bikes, biggest difference i see id front fork. I can get both for same price. Not crazy about the decal colors on 2017 fuel ex9 but i cam deal with it. any insight or advandages ir disadvantages would be greatly appreciated thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bamaguy80 View Post
    Looking to upgrade from my X-Cal 9 to either of the above bikes, biggest difference i see id front fork. I can get both for same price. Not crazy about the decal colors on 2017 fuel ex9 but i cam deal with it. any insight or advandages ir disadvantages would be greatly appreciated thanks
    Same bike, Different color and parts specs
    No Geo change.
    so it comes down to which color/parts build you like the most.

    The 2018 EX8 isn't listed on Trek's website yet so I can't comment on build specs and you can't go off EU specs. They do change them for different markets
    Too Many .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bamaguy80 View Post
    Not crazy about the decal colors on 2017 fuel ex9 but i cam deal with it. any insight or advandages ir disadvantages would be greatly appreciated thanks
    I thought I could deal with the colours of the '17FEX. I can't.... love the way the bike rides, hate the way the bike looks, can't wait to sell it.

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    The Matte Black? I think it's looks pretty damn nice actually.
    Carpe Diem!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by k2rider1964 View Post
    The Matte Black? I think it's looks pretty damn nice actually.
    The 17' EX8 is matte black and is stunning, I constantly have to tell people its not CF, and its not a higher end 9.x. The 17' EX9 is silver and blue highlights and IMO is very meh looking. I think that's what driver bob is talking about.

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    I may be in the minority but I like the '17 silver and blue and don't care for matte black.
    What, me worry?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gfourth View Post
    I think that's what driver bob is talking about.
    Yes, the matte Quicksilver and Blue of the '17 FEX9 is what I have and what I dislike.

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    Unless the EX8 components have been upgraded for '18, the EX9 has a better fork, wheels, brakes, a(presumably) better dropper, 1x drivetrain, and is almost a pound and a half lighter. For the same price, it's not even a question. Yeah, I think the EX8 looks better, too. You buying it to ride, or to look at?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lone Rager View Post
    I may be in the minority but I like the '17 silver and blue and don't care for matte black.
    You're not alone. In a way it reminded me of all the silver frames of the 90's.


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    Hello folks, time to get international and learn som Swedish.
    There is 2 versions of the Fuel EX 8 for 2018 here Europe, hofully will it not differ (at least not to much) in the US.
    One with the GX Eagle shifting in silver and black, my choice of bike. Just done one ride with the bike so far and it's my first FS.

    The other option is with a Shimano instead of SRAM including a front mech in black and grey.

    Check the Swedish dealer Henriksson for pictures.
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    Trek Fuel EX 8 29 Eagle 2018
    Artikelnummer: 549375
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    Kapabel och styv 130 mm ram, passar både 29˝ och 27,5+
    Boost148/110: starkare hjul, mer utrymme för däcken, kortare stag
    Exklusiv dämpningsteknik med ABP, Full Floater och RE:aktiv
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    Ram Alpha Platinum Aluminum, ABP, Boost148, Knock Block styrrörsstopp, Full Floater, EVO Link, koniskt E2-styrhuvud, Mino Link, Control Freak invändig dragning, diagonalrörsskydd, PF92, ISCG 05, G2-geometri, 130 mm slaglängd
    Dämpning fram Fox Rhythm 34 Float, inställbar GRIP-dämpare, koniskt E2-styrrör, G2-geometri med 51 mm offset, Boost110, 130 mm slaglängd
    Dämpning bak Fox Performance Float EVOL, RE:aktiv-dämpare med 3 lägen, inställd av Trek Suspension Lab, 210 x 52,5 mm
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    Hjul Bontrager Line Comp 30, TLR, 54T Rapid Drive, Boost110 fram, Boost148 bak, fälgband för slanglöst ingår, ventiler säljs separat
    Däck Bontrager XR4 Team Issue, TLR, Inner Strength-däcksidor, 120 tpi, aramidkant, 29x2,40˝
    Drivlina
    Växlar SRAM GX Eagle, 12-växlad
    Bakväxel SRAM GX Eagle, Roller Bearing Clutch
    Vevparti SRAM Descendant 6k Eagle, 32T Direct Mount X-Sync
    Vevlager PF92
    Kassett SRAM XG-1275, 10 - 50, 12-delad
    Kedja SRAM GX Eagle
    Komponenter
    Sadel Bontrager Evoke 2, CrMo-rails
    Sadelstolpe Bontrager Drop Line, invändig dragning, 31,6 mm (15,5: 100 mm / 17,5 och 18,5: 125 mm / 19,5 och 21,5: 150 mm)
    Styre Bontrager Line, 35 mm, 15 mm rise, 750 mm bredd
    Styrstam Bontrager Line, Knock Block, 35 mm klämma, 0 grader, 60 mm längd
    Handtag Bontrager Race Lite, Lock-on
    Styrlager Knock Block, integrerade, kapslade lager, 1 1/8˝ övre, 1,5˝ nedre
    Bromsar SRAM Guide R hydraulisk skivbroms

    Uppgraderingar från Fuel EX 7 29
    Fox Rhythm 34 Float gaffel
    Fox Performance stötdämpare med RE:aktiv-dämpare
    SRAM GX Eagle 1 x 12 drivlina
    SRAM Guide R broms
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    Trek Fuel EX 8 29 XT 2018
    Artikelnummer: 549362
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    29.999 kr
    Specifikationer
    Funktioner
    Kapabel och styv 130 mm ram, passar både 29" och 27,5+
    Boost148/110: starkare hjul, mer utrymme för däcken, kortare stag
    Exklusiv dämpningsteknik med ABP, Full Floater och RE:aktiv
    Straight Shot-styvhet, Knock Block-ramskydd
    Ramset
    Ram Alpha Platinum Aluminum, ABP, Boost148, Knock Block styrrörsstopp, Full Floater, EVO Link, koniskt E2-styrhuvud, Mino Link, Control Freak invändig dragning, diagonalrörsskydd, PF92, ISCG 05, G2-geometri, 130 mm slaglängd
    Dämpning fram Fox Rhythm 34 Float, inställbar GRIP-dämpare, koniskt E2-styrrör, G2-geometri med 51 mm offset, Boost110, 130 mm slaglängd
    Dämpning bak Fox Performance Float EVOL, RE:aktiv-dämpare med 3 lägen, inställd av Trek Suspension Lab, 210 x 52,5 mm
    Hjul
    Hjul Bontrager Line Comp 30, TLR, 54T Rapid Drive, Boost110 fram, Boost148 bak (fälgband för slanglöst ingår, ventiler säljs separat)
    Däck Bontrager XR4 Team Issue, TLR, Inner Strength-däcksidor, 120 tpi, aramidkant, 29x2,40"
    Drivlina
    Växlar Shimano Deore XT M8000, 11-växlat
    Framväxel Shimano SLX M7020
    Bakväxel Shimano Deore XT M8000, Shadow Plus
    Vevparti Shimano Deore XT, 36/26
    Vevlager PF92
    Kassett Shimano SLX M7000 11 - 42, 11-delad
    Kedja Shimano HG60
    Komponenter
    Sadel Bontrager Evoke 2, CrMo-rails
    Sadelstolpe Bontrager Drop Line, invändig vajerdragning, 31,6 mm (15,5: 100 mm / 17,5 och 18,5: 125 mm / 19,5 och 21,5: 150 mm)
    Styre Bontrager Line, 35 mm, 15 mm rise, 750 mm bredd
    Styrstam Bontrager Line, Knock Block, 35 mm klämma, 0 grader, 60 mm längd
    Handtag Bontrager Race Lite, Lock-on
    Styrlager Knock Block, integrerade, kapslade lager, 1 1/8" övre, 1,5" nedre
    Bromsar Shimano MT500 hydraulisk skivbroms

    Uppgraderingar från Fuel EX 7 29
    Fox Rhythm 34 Float gaffel
    Fox Performance stötdämpare med RE:aktiv-dämpare
    Shimano Deore XT M8000 2 x 11 drivlina
    Shimano MT500 broms
    Bontrager Drop Line sadelstolpe
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    Is it confirmed that there will not be a fuel ex 9 for 2018?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dbeadle View Post
    Is it confirmed that there will not be a fuel ex 9 for 2018?
    Certainly seems that way, any bike for 2018 with a 9x number is carbon so far.

    I think that Trek are trying to create model numbers that mean anything 8 and lower is aluminum, anything 9 or higher is carbon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by driver bob View Post
    Certainly seems that way, any bike for 2018 with a 9x number is carbon so far.

    I think that Trek are trying to create model numbers that mean anything 8 and lower is aluminum, anything 9 or higher is carbon.
    I think you're right... I did however notice a 9 variant of Roscoe on one of the shop pages overseas last night so who knows!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bamaguy80 View Post
    Looking to upgrade from my X-Cal 9 to either of the above bikes, biggest difference i see id front fork. I can get both for same price. Not crazy about the decal colors on 2017 fuel ex9 but i cam deal with it. any insight or advandages ir disadvantages would be greatly appreciated thanks
    would you be able to get the 2017 Fuel EX 9 new for the same price as the 8. How much would each bike cost?

    I called my trek rep and he said he could get me a new 2017 Fuel EX 9 for $3600 which I thought was still a little high with the 2018 models just coming out.

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    I was able to pick up a 2017 Fuel EX 9 for $3k even so i know trek will come off that 3600

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bamaguy80 View Post
    I was able to pick up a 2017 Fuel EX 9 for $3k even so i know trek will come off that 3600
    So you went to your local bike shop, told them you wanted one for $3k, they talked to Trek and got you one for that price? Or how did this go?

    Guy at the bike shop told me he could do $3,600 if I didn't tell Trek. What a guy. He said he would have to order it for me though so maybe that is the difference if your shop had a leftover in stock?

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    less upgrading to do on the 9. that's what I went with. I wasn't crazy on the teal on the frame (it would be perfect w/just the blue & silver, IMO) but I'm letting a can of black plasti-dip deal with it.

    not having to upgrade anything (except wheels in the future) was a big plus for me.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayson44 View Post
    less upgrading to do on the 9. that's what I went with.
    Did you buy it recently? New? Mind me asking how much you got it for? If I could get an 2017 EX 9 for $3k I would be all over that but shops around me are still much higher.

    Not crazy about the color either but I like it better than the 2016 bright yellow. More interested in how it rides.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dbeadle View Post
    Did you buy it recently? New? Mind me asking how much you got it for? If I could get an 2017 EX 9 for $3k I would be all over that but shops around me are still much higher.

    Not crazy about the color either but I like it better than the 2016 bright yellow. More interested in how it rides.
    My 9 Rides amazing and is capable of so much more than I can survive at my skill level. Feels lighter than it is climbing and as I dial in the suspension it just gets faster and faster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zgxtreme View Post
    My 9 Rides amazing and is capable of so much more than I can survive at my skill level. Feels lighter than it is climbing and as I dial in the suspension it just gets faster and faster.
    Did you by yours recently zgxtreme? Trying to decide what is a fair price for a new leftover 2017 EX 9

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    I got mine new in March. I did some bartering for it, so I "paid" full price as far as the work I did to get the bike. I think getting a 9 for $3k would be a steal. paint it yourself for that price if you hate the colors.

    but seriously, the owner of the shop I got it at races Trek bikes and hates all the colors except black. so he basically plasti-dips all his frames as soon as he gets them. it rubs right off if you don't put too many coats on it and it also protects the frame from all the small stuff. comes in many different colors, and you can actually paint over it with any color and it will still rub off in the end. not a bad way to go if you aren't happy with the colors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dbeadle View Post
    Did you by yours recently zgxtreme? Trying to decide what is a fair price for a new leftover 2017 EX 9
    Got mine in December for $3400 or $3500, can't remember.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zgxtreme View Post
    Got mine in December for $3400 or $3500, can't remember.
    Thats a good price for a couple months ago. Looks like I will have to get in touch with a couple other Trek carrying shops to see what they can do. Feel like I may have already missed the clearing space for 2018 model sales but you never know.

    And if I can get one for $3k I don't care what color it is! Seems like a great deal.

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    Bought it two weeks ago. My trek store was doing closeouts on 17' model. $3200...i told them i would do $3k and they agreed

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bamaguy80 View Post
    Bought it two weeks ago. My trek store was doing closeouts on 17' model. $3200...i told them i would do $3k and they agreed
    Good steal. I'll ultimately add to my quiver a ProCal and Top Fuel for racing but this 9 will remain my favorite bike for a long time.

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    Best thing ive ever done was upgrading from x-cal 9. I was unsure about the color at first but now i actually like it. The bike is awesome

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    I bought a Fuel EX9 in May and I love the bike. I upgraded a few things on it:

    Renthal Kevlar Grips. I prefer fatter grips.

    40mm Bontrager Line Stem, down from the stock 60mm. Quickened the steering of the bike significantly. Climbing is unaffected.

    Schwalbe Magic Mary front, Rock Razor rear. Stock tires are fine until you go fast and then your front end washes out. The Schwalbes rock. Put about 150 miles on them and PLENTY of tread life left. Grips like its on rails.

    Fabric Scroop Radius Saddle. I wanted more comfort. I do not notice the seat at all. So it's doing its job extremely well.

    MRP Ramp Control. I was actually thinking of upgrading to the 2018 Pike or Push Tuned Factory 34, but I think I'll hold on to the Performance 34 for a while longer. The biggest complaint I HAD with the 34 was that I felt it was a little too harsh. Installing the Ramp Control actually made it more supple and sensitive at the same pressures I was running stock. I'll still need to fine tune the PSI, but it's looking like it was a worthy upgrade.

    Fuel EX9.9 Factory Rear Shock. I found a brand new stock take off on eBay for a fairly good price. Not really sure if the internals are different or identical, but the 9.9 shock immediately felt more supple and sensitive compared to the standard. I actually had to raise the PSI to get proper sag compared to the standard shock. I also increased rebound damping one click compared to the standard shock. Worth the upgrade IMO, if you can find it.

    Planned upgrades:

    Bontrager Line Pro Carbon Wheelset. Fairly inexpensive for carbon wheels and I'll save some weight compared to the heavy duty aluminum stock wheelset.

    180mm rear brakes. For better heat dissipation.

    Renthal Carbon Fatbar Lite. Save a little bit of weight and dampen some vibration.

    All in all, it's an amazing bike. If you can only have one bike to do it all well, this is it. I plan on keeping mine for a long time. And I think the silver color is tits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dbeadle View Post
    So you went to your local bike shop, told them you wanted one for $3k, they talked to Trek and got you one for that price? Or how did this go?

    Guy at the bike shop told me he could do $3,600 if I didn't tell Trek. What a guy. He said he would have to order it for me though so maybe that is the difference if your shop had a leftover in stock?
    I walked into a Trek store (they know me) and there was a Domane 5.2 there with list of $3699 I said I'll give you $2700 for it right now - we agreed on $2750 and there was no phone call to anybody . . . I think he was a store manager though.

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    Comparison Table

    I went ahead and put together a comparison table for these two bikes:

    2018 fuel ex8 or 2017 fuel ex 9-table.jpg

    On paper it seems like the 2018 EX8 is a no brainer. Assuming you are paying MSRP, buying the 17' EX9 over the 18' EX8 costs you $800 more and only gets you a better fork and better brakes. Otherwise the spec is basically equal other than the drivetrain. From what I've found the GX Eagle groupset is actually a bit lighter than X1, especially w/ the spec'd 1200 crank... Trek really packed a lot of value into the 18' EX8, and I too find it hard to believe they will release an 18' EX9.

    Now, we know no one will be paying MSRP for a 17' EX9 this time of the year. I figure you can get each in the following price ranges:

    17' EX9 NEW: $3200-$3400
    17' EX9 lightly used: $2500-$2700
    18' EX7 NEW: $3000-$3200

    Thoughts?

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    Looks like the EX8 is the EX9's replacement. The specs look really good. It seems like Trek is moving to 1x12, which is great. But the price gap between the GX and XO1 Eagle is massive. At some point, there would need to be an 'X1' level Eagle drivetrain. The GX is generally on the lower end of bikes(not saying that performance is low end, just the price), and the XO1 or XX1 is on higher end bikes. There's really no middle ground at this point, which I find odd. I really hope SRAM either moves the GX Eagle up to the level of the X1(via yearly updates) or creates an X1 level Eagle drivetrain to bridge the gap.

    In any case, if Trek specced the EX8 with the Performance fork and bumped the price up by $200, I wouldn't complain. It's a great value. But to get to the next level of Eagle, you'll be paying over $8000. That price difference is ridiculous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JeffSkaza View Post
    I went ahead and put together a comparison table for these two bikes:

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    On paper it seems like the 2018 EX8 is a no brainer. Assuming you are paying MSRP, buying the 17' EX9 over the 18' EX8 costs you $800 more and only gets you a better fork and better brakes. Otherwise the spec is basically equal other than the drivetrain. From what I've found the GX Eagle groupset is actually a bit lighter than X1, especially w/ the spec'd 1200 crank... Trek really packed a lot of value into the 18' EX8, and I too find it hard to believe they will release an 18' EX9.

    Now, we know no one will be paying MSRP for a 17' EX9 this time of the year. I figure you can get each in the following price ranges:

    17' EX9 NEW: $3200-$3400
    17' EX9 lightly used: $2500-$2700
    18' EX7 NEW: $3000-$3200

    Thoughts?
    US based specs? also where did you get the specs if US based?
    The only model you can see on Trek's web site is the 9.9 29er

    My buddy just got a 2018 Fuel EX8 plus. GX Eagle. Guide R brakes. SUNringle 40 sl rims. Nobby Nic 27.5x2.8", Bontrager Dropper.
    Bike rides amazing.
    Not sure what the EX8 29er comes spec'd as. I didn't ask my shop to look at the specs on their side of the site.

    Don't compare non US spec'd bikes to US spec. They do change along with color.
    Too Many .

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    Quote Originally Posted by almazing View Post
    I bought a Fuel EX9 in May and I love the bike. I upgraded a few things on it:

    MRP Ramp Control. I was actually thinking of upgrading to the 2018 Pike or Push Tuned Factory 34, but I think I'll hold on to the Performance 34 for a while longer. The biggest complaint I HAD with the 34 was that I felt it was a little too harsh. Installing the Ramp Control actually made it more supple and sensitive at the same pressures I was running stock. I'll still need to fine tune the PSI, but it's looking like it was a worthy upgrade.

    ha...you and I have the same bike & plan, pretty much. I swapped saddle and grips, went to a 35mm stem, & hated washing the front tire out. Minion DHF and Ardent rear fixed that.

    does the RC really help the fork? and did you bump it to 140? I wanted to bump it up before I did anything else to it.


    Quote Originally Posted by almazing View Post
    Planned upgrades:

    Bontrager Line Pro Carbon Wheelset. Fairly inexpensive for carbon wheels and I'll save some weight compared to the heavy duty aluminum stock wheelset.

    180mm rear brakes. For better heat dissipation.

    Renthal Carbon Fatbar Lite. Save a little bit of weight and dampen some vibration.
    I too plan to go with the Line Pros and a carbon bar at some point. almost bought the matching carbon bar with my stem, but decided to upgrade the saddle instead (wise choice on my part).

    mine came with a 180 rear rotor...did yours not?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayson44 View Post
    ha...you and I have the same bike & plan, pretty much. I swapped saddle and grips, went to a 35mm stem, & hated washing the front tire out. Minion DHF and Ardent rear fixed that.

    does the RC really help the fork? and did you bump it to 140? I wanted to bump it up before I did anything else to it.




    I too plan to go with the Line Pros and a carbon bar at some point. almost bought the matching carbon bar with my stem, but decided to upgrade the saddle instead (wise choice on my part).

    mine came with a 180 rear rotor...did yours not?

    J.
    I really like the RC. It feels more sensitive and supportive than with the tokens. Plus I can adjust it on the fly. I generally like seeing 90% of travel used on my local trails. If I'm nowhere close to 90, I'll make it less progressive. And vice versa.

    I'm actually picking up my Line Pros now and am planning on going for a shakedown ride.

    Mine came with a 160 rear. I want to put a 180 but the clearances look a little tight. If yours had a 180 rear, then I'll upgrade mine too.
    I no longer like to party. But I like the idea of it.

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    how much did you get the Pros for? just curious if they're selling at full MSRP...

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    I got the set for a hair above $1000, with the XD driver. It took a week and a half to arrive. My LBS takes care of me.

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