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    2017 Nukeproof 290 Scout... Thoughts?

    My fs 29er frame is running on borrowed time.



    Currently it (fs 29er) is out getting a patch up.

    If I had the coin, I'd get a Transition Smuggler frame or maybe even a Canfield Riot ^^

    But, the coin is lacking (at the mo) & I'm thinking of a time filler - that may prove to be a lot of fun i.e. The NP 290 Scout...



    Except for the BB (still unsure about compatibility at the mo), everything from my fs 29er will (should) transfer over.

    I'm 6ft w/ 32" inseam & gorilla-armis.

    The 18" has similar reach to my fs 29er, but it's longer.

    I also use to own a Kona Process 134 L, it had a more in the bike feel. It's reach is similar to the 20" NP 290.

    I've been curious about an AM HT for the last couple of months... since selling my 650b mule funnily enough - N+1.

    I'm liking most of the numbers of the Scout.
    The geo says this thing should be a hoot!

    Reviews are mixed though & I'm unsure whether to go 18" or 20".

    Any real world experience on the 290 Scout, or similar AM HT's would be much appreciated.

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    I like the numbers as well. I had a Mondraker Vantage frame and found that on our rougher trails I was unwilling to take the punishment that a HT delivers. On a lot of other trails it was a hoot. If I was you I would go with the 20" and run as short a stem as possible. It has low stack for a 29 which I like, but at your height you will have more spacers which reduces the ETT. I have read that it has a stiff ride and looking at the photos of this frame I believe it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Travis Bickle View Post
    I like the numbers as well. I had a Mondraker Vantage frame and found that on our rougher trails I was unwilling to take the punishment that a HT delivers. On a lot of other trails it was a hoot. If I was you I would go with the 20" and run as short a stem as possible. It has low stack for a 29 which I like, but at your height you will have more spacers which reduces the ETT. I have read that it has a stiff ride and looking at the photos of this frame I believe it.
    Cheers.

    For 80% of my trails I think an AM HT would suffice.

    I could run bigger shoes when in really gnarly stuff to eliminate some of the arse pounding

    Maybe a carbon handlebar would assist as well.

    I tend to ride with precision than just blaze away down the trail.

    Plus, I have ridden a 29er HT on all of the trails I generally frequent i.e. a sit up and beg, entry level XC/rail trail type rig.

    Of course I didn't know any better then... But, I was still grinning ear to ear (the rear wheel? Not so much...)

    I'll likely get frame & ride my fs 29er until she croaks.

    She may not!?

    Then I can have a little side project simmering away i.e. slowly building it up.

    Otherwise, HT frame will act as a little insurance policy - jic the brown runny stuff hits the twirly-whirly thing.

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    I love HTs but I'm 58 years old and after a couple of the rougher descents around hear my legs felt that they had been beaten with hockey sticks. That said I thing the Scout 29 is pretty cool and I look forward to seeing it built.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Travis Bickle View Post
    I love HTs but I'm 58 years old and after a couple of the rougher descents around hear my legs felt that they had been beaten with hockey sticks. That said I thing the Scout 29 is pretty cool and I look forward to seeing it built.
    The Warden (her-indoors) has all but sanctioned the operation :woohoo:

    After closer inspection it looks like I will need a new headset & BB...

    Plenty of options on fleabay.

    Still have a bit of guff to sell off.

    In a month or two, I should have frame in storage.

    How long the old girl (fs 29er) lasts is the big unknown o_0

    Hopefully it lasts another 6-12+ months, it is a fun bike for sure.

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    Just received email from Dave at Transition...

    Not holding my breath, but he's going to do a little digging and see if he can't find info re, new rear triangle.

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    Personally I'd look into the Kona Honzo, if you can find a frame from a previous year you won't have to deal with the boosted rear. Used steel frames sell for $250-450 depending on how much of a beating they've endured.

    Canfield and Evil also have similar frames available.

    I had a 2013 Honzo which is quite possibly the best bike I've had, it wanted to jump off even the smallest bumps and was amazing on the descents. I have a titanium Honzo now which retains alot of the fun, but the reach is longer and it's less jumpy (for me anyways). On the upside it's spritely and gets up to speed quicker.

    Alu can be a bit harsh for trail oriented frames, so if you're set on the scout I'd make sure it can take very wide tires.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegard View Post
    Personally I'd look into the Kona Honzo, if you can find a frame from a previous year you won't have to deal with the boosted rear. Used steel frames sell for $250-450 depending on how much of a beating they've endured.

    Canfield and Evil also have similar frames available.

    I had a 2013 Honzo which is quite possibly the best bike I've had, it wanted to jump off even the smallest bumps and was amazing on the descents. I have a titanium Honzo now which retains alot of the fun, but the reach is longer and it's less jumpy (for me anyways). On the upside it's spritely and gets up to speed quicker.

    Alu can be a bit harsh for trail oriented frames, so if you're set on the scout I'd make sure it can take very wide tires.
    Thanks...

    I've looked at a couple other frames & the asking price is around 3x what the Scout would cost. No sale.

    Wider shoes for the really rugged trails I occasionally frequent was my first line of thought also.

    A burly 2.35 Hans Dampf up front, which blows up close to what others claim as 2.5".
    An XR4 2.4 for rear duties.

    This combo should hopefully soak up a little more trail chatter.

    Plus a carbon handle bar, as I've read they lesson what the hands feel also.

    Not many rocks on my local trails, more loamy or hard packed.

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    Purchasing frame tonight ^^

    Flip of the coin re, 18" (more playful, poppy type ride) vs 20" (more stable, in bike feel)...

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    You are 3.5" taller than me and I would go 18" with a 30mm stem. Depends what you like, let us know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Travis Bickle View Post
    You are 3.5" taller than me and I would go 18" with a 30mm stem. Depends what you like, let us know.
    Things on hold til I hear from Dave @Transition...

    The word 'Smuggler' is being bandied around

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    Smuggler, oh yeah.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Travis Bickle View Post
    Smuggler, oh yeah.
    I know

    Don't want to get my hopes up...

    Plus, the rear tire clearance or lack thereof (of the Smuggler) does place a wee fly in the ointment.

    Although any bike that isn't cracking up at the moment would be awesome!!

    Could probably stretch my budget for a 2015 Smuggler frame, size L ^^

    Probably won't hear anything for a couple of days as email tag between hemispheres is painfully slow

    :tick-tock:

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    Transition HQ were willing to get me a Smuggler frame, but for only slightly less $$ than what I could get locally by myself.

    I've ordered the 18" 290 frame solely based on my current bikes numbers i.e. apart from Wheelbase, they're pretty similar (FYI - the 290 is 37mm longer, plus maybe another 5mm due to my longer fork [than stock] & 51mm offset.

    Once frame arrives, I'll sus out what can/can't move over (likely need new headset).

    When my FS 29er goes to that giant scrap heap in the sky... Everything else will get moved over & I'll be back in business.

    When my full squishy finally croaks ^^ Who knows?

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    Check Pinkbike buy and sell. Lots of great used FS frames and bikes. Curious to hear what you think of the Scout.
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    Pinkbike be in the States?

    I'm in the Southern Hemisphere ;-)

    My Father-in-law is good at working with metal/alloy etc.

    He rekons I should just reinforce the Bandit around the weekend (cracked) points.

    I may swap all my parts over pretty quickly once frame arrives & give him the Bandit frame to work his magic on ^^

    He lives 250km's away... Once/if he can reinforce it suitably, I may either rebuild it & ride Scout -=or=- reacquire my Bandit & build up the Scout.

    I've got rear wheel (needs be pawls+free hub), 760mm handlebars, 10 spd rear derailleur, 130mm Sektor fork, grips, 32t Oval CR, tires, pedals, plus a couple of other bits & bobs...

    Need new - 10 Spd cassette (sunrace 11-42), chain, crank set, rear shifter, head set, bottom bracket, brakes, rotors, seat post (dropper/static?), saddle...

    Could do it slowly over time as deals pop up
    ^^

    PS - couple of my riding buds will have parts they maybe willing to (pun) part with >.<

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    PB is for everyone but there is only a few frames from that far south.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Travis Bickle View Post
    PB is for everyone but there is only a few frames from that far south.

    Pinkbike BuySell Search
    A 26 inch-er, a size M, and a ships within Oz only ;-)

    The Remedy is nicely priced... must be something wrong w/it. Plus, it's more bike than I need.

    I'm actually looking forward to trying a HT for however long is intended.

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    Frame is in the country...

    Just waiting for it to arrive (some time this week).

    Will post some pics once it's out of the box & I've done some tape measuring ;-)

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