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    142x12 Hardtail Frame Options

    I have a set of spank oozy 350 wheels in 142x12, Eagle GX drivetrain, Pike fork, and a few leftover parts that I'd like to use to build up a fun geared hardtail. Currently have this setup on my Nimble 9, but I've been missing that bike in it's SS form. A rigid carbon fork and i9/Atomik wheelset would go back on the N9.

    Wanting to spend $750 or less, and my first thought was SC Chameleon. Go to the bike shop and am told that they no longer make 142 geared dropouts for the Chameleon.

    Geo numbers I'm looking for
    HA: 66-67 w/ 120-140 fork
    CS: 420ish
    STA: 74ish (no extended climbs in florida, so no need for stee sta)
    ST Length: 460 or less. this is very important because I have short legs
    Reach: 450-460

    Not too worried about material or weight. Fun factor is all I really want. Love my N9, but miss it in SS. Stanton makes beautiful bikes with swappable dropouts, but shipping to US blows the budget on this bike.

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    Get a chromag rootdown or primer, I知 loving this frame so far...though I知 running a bit more travel


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    Quote Originally Posted by cachaulo View Post
    Get a chromag rootdown or primer, I知 loving this frame so far...though I知 running a bit more travel


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    Lovely frames, but they are boost 148

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    Looked at Surly? I have no idea on the measurements but the rear end can be run 142 or 148. Krampus or such might fit the bill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GatorXman View Post
    Lovely frames, but they are boost 148
    Sorry, past models are 142...at your price you could certainly find a used one.
    https://chromagbikes.com/bikes/past-models/rootdown


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    Salsa timberjack... 142 compatible with the right dropout plates, singlespeed ready

    Also some Surlys
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    Pole Taival maybe? I've heard they started to ship.

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    Buy some adaptors and take your pick from more modern frames?

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    Yeah, boost adapters work fine from what I hear. Some people glue or shrink-wrap the adapters to the axle to avoid dropping and losing them.

    A medium Honzo might do it. The Surly Karate Monkey has a much shorter reach.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the_joe View Post
    Salsa timberjack... 142 compatible with the right dropout plates, singlespeed ready

    Also some Surlys
    Quote Originally Posted by leeboh View Post
    Looked at Surly? I have no idea on the measurements but the rear end can be run 142 or 148. Krampus or such might fit the bill.
    Timberjack is too steep. Love the Karate Monkey, but M is too short on reach, L is too long on seat tube. I have a +2" Ape index with shorter inseam. The one thing I hate about my L N9 is that I can only fit a 75mm dropper on it.

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    Buy some adaptors and take your pick from more modern frames?
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    Yeah, boost adapters work fine from what I hear. Some people glue or shrink-wrap the adapters to the axle to avoid dropping and losing them.

    A medium Honzo might do it. The Surly Karate Monkey has a much shorter reach.
    Have people had success running adapted on short CS bikes? This would be ideal if a chain line issue isn't created. Medium Honzo has EXACTLY what I am looking for...

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    I don't see what adapters have to do with the short chainstays. For the chainline, you might need to move your chainring around a bit to center it, depending on the rest of the setup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mack_turtle View Post
    I don't see what adapters have to do with the short chainstays. For the chainline, you might need to move your chainring around a bit to center it, depending on the rest of the setup.
    If you a get a single 6mm spacer, you have to redish wheelset. If you get two 3mm spacers, your chainline moves 3mm. I prefer not having to redish, and as I understand short chainstays magnify chainline issues.

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    Eskar Hayduke can be had in 142.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GatorXman View Post
    Have people had success running adapted on short CS bikes? This would be ideal if a chain line issue isn't created. Medium Honzo has EXACTLY what I am looking for...
    I'm using a Wolftooth Boostinator in the rear on a frame w/ chainstays just under 17''. Works great, no issues. With my DT350 hub, the Boostinator endcaps fit nice and tight. I don't even think about them. The only issue is needing to slightly redish the wheel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by drog View Post
    Eskar Hayduke can be had in 142.
    I really like the numbers on this...except the 2.3 max tire size. Has anyone confirmed how accurate that number is? I like running 2.4 XR3's in the back.

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    face it, 142 is old news. I still have a 142 axle in a frame that can handle any axle size (Karate Monkey FYI) but if I needed to buy a new frame, I'd just bite the bullet and get a 148 spaced frame and an adapter axle for my hub. personally, I don't feel the need for boost anything, but there's little to be gained by limiting yourself the the very tiny list of frames that are still being made with 142 spacing. if you can find a frame you really like that happens to still have that option, that's great. just don't let it limit your options.

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    I have Pole Taival and think it's one of the best hardtails money can buy. And you can run it 142 or 148mm in the back with enough clearance for 29x2.5 or 27.5x3

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    Quote Originally Posted by GatorXman View Post
    I really like the numbers on this...except the 2.3 max tire size. Has anyone confirmed how accurate that number is? I like running 2.4 XR3's in the back.
    IMO, Hayduke geo looks bad with 29 wheels. Even with 2.3, the BB is already too high. It is really awesome with 27x2.8 though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by heartland View Post
    I'm using a Wolftooth Boostinator in the rear on a frame w/ chainstays just under 17''. Works great, no issues. With my DT350 hub, the Boostinator endcaps fit nice and tight. I don't even think about them. The only issue is needing to slightly redish the wheel.
    Agreed. I'm running the Boostinator on my I9 hub (frame has 420mm CS) and I don't even know it's there. Redishing is a non-issue it's so simple. If boost adapter endcaps are available for your hub, it's a no brainer.

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    I think the RSD Big Chief fits your description and is affordable.

    I believe the frames are on sale but am not sure on what sizes are still available.

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    Definitely get some adapters, then check out the Sexiest AM/FR/Enduro Hardtail thread on Pink Bike.

    Sexiest AM/FR/Enduro Hardtail Thread
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    These go on sale for about $180 from time to time...

    pretty good specs

    https://www.chainreactioncycles.com/.../rp-prod155477

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    Thanks guys. I think I'm gonna give a boost conversion kit a try. That would really open up my frame choices.

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