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    Trek Elite 9.9

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    Does anyone know if the Trek Elite 9.9 frame is compatible with 650b. I measured the frame clearance on the rear, and I figure if it fits it will be very tight, but can only be sure by trying...

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    Quote Originally Posted by davidpch View Post
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    Does anyone know if the Trek Elite 9.9 frame is compatible with 650b. I measured the frame clearance on the rear, and I figure if it fits it will be very tight, but can only be sure by trying...
    What year? Most were tight with 26" wheels. My buddies 08 and another guy with a 10 were both no go for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTR-33 View Post
    What year? Most were tight with 26" wheels. My buddies 08 and another guy with a 10 were both no go for me.
    2012 model...

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    Quote Originally Posted by drummercat View Post
    I just tried my 6fiddyB rear on a 2009 commencal Meta 6 , no go.......
    my slightly weared 2.3 neo moto rubs the arc, it can still spin however......may be a smaller tire will fit.
    Even less clearance on the crabon swingarm too.

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    RM Element RSL

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    Rocky Mountain Element 70 RSL Carbon 650B (27.5") - yes please! - thehubsa.co.za

    Too bad the MSL won't work, according to the OP (see page 2). Maybe with a travel-reducing shim?
    Better to have and not need it, than to need it and not have it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Waterat Pat View Post
    That bike looks Burly! Great photos of the clearance.
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    2011 Specialized Stumpjumper is 650B compatible. It's a close fit on the SS, though. Im running Pacenti Quasi-Moto 2.1 in the rear with about 2mm clearance. Might go ahead and get 2.0 just to have more clearance.

    It really breaths new life into the bike. I think that is the best thing about the wheel size...it creates an alternative to having to get a whole new bike.

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    650b on Giant XTC hardtail, 2009ish (with Manitou Minute 20mm axle fork)

    sorry if it's already posted, started to read the whole thread but after working in the sun all day my eyes became weary

    recently got hold of a Giant XTC frame for swaps, about 2009 i guess
    have put a SS together out of spares i had knocking around with some Minute 140mm forks, a touch long but that's what i've got and that's what i like!!

    wondering if i can 650B it?
    XTC hardtail and Manitou Minute 140mm/20mm axle fork

    anyone, anyone, Bueler, Bueler.....?

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    .Searched on rocky mountain vertex team rsl... 2011.....couldnt find answer. Anyone tried this frame? Would be same as other carbon HTs in their old range I reckon...

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    Was going to try this on my '07 XL Yeti 575. Maybe a different rear tire? Thinking of Small block 8 for a rear and not sure what to use up front. Trying to achieve a XC dry conditions set up for summer. Any thoughts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MiggySawdust View Post
    2011 Specialized Stumpjumper is 650B compatible. It's a close fit on the SS, though. Im running Pacenti Quasi-Moto 2.1 in the rear with about 2mm clearance. Might go ahead and get 2.0 just to have more clearance.

    It really breaths new life into the bike. I think that is the best thing about the wheel size...it creates an alternative to having to get a whole new bike.
    AFAIK Quasi only comes in 2.0
    Better to have and not need it, than to need it and not have it.

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    Has anyone tried using 650b wheels on a 2010/2011 Yeti ARC frame yet?

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    Add a 2011 Stumpjumper carbon FSR to the list. Woot!

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    Good job! SC Butcher and Nickel are 650B Good!

    Both are good fully bottomed out with no air in the shock. The NIckel has about a 1 mm more clearance at full compression, the Butcher tire is just kissing the seat tube at full mech lock-but still rolls freely with a squeegee drag. (this will rarely if ever happen with air in the chamber) We are trail riding them with no problem and no mods to the Fox Float 36 TALAS forks, or the RP23 flaot rear shocks. -Juice!


    Add the Santacruz Butcher, 14.2" to the center of the BB spindle, (Unloaded static BB height)




    And the Nickel. 14.0" to the center of the BB spindle.(Unloaded Static BB Height)

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    Hi!
    Has anyone tried using 650b wheels on a 2008 Mondraker Foxy R frame yet?
    Thanks

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    I checked out the frame list but didn't really see what I'm looking for. I am wondering if anyone knows of a budget single-pivot suspension frame that accomodates a 650b rear wheel. What I have in mind is a Santa Cruz clone that won't break the wallet.

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    SC Heckler or find a used Cannondale Prophet (like I have). Prophet works perfect with no mods.
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    I'd be interested in hearing about your experience with the 07 Coiler - what wheel were you using? I bought the Stan's ZTR Flow with Neomotos 2.3 front/2.1 rear. The front fit my Lyrik fine. The rear did not fit :-( I had assumed since I saw it on the list of compatible 26" wheel frames it was good to go but not for mine....

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    Quote Originally Posted by phoenixbikes View Post
    I checked out the frame list but didn't really see what I'm looking for. I am wondering if anyone knows of a budget single-pivot suspension frame that accomodates a 650b rear wheel. What I have in mind is a Santa Cruz clone that won't break the wallet.
    I have exactly the bike/frame/fork/wheels (either /or) deal you are looking for.(Weyless Heckler Clone, SP with Fox shock, it was my first 650B conversion bike) . PM me if interested.

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    You guys are all drinking the kool aid. Once 650b (27.5") comes out the marketing guys will be selling you a 26.75"- "Yeah it rolls like a 27.5" with the punchieness of a 26"!!!
    Or better yet a 28.25"- "Yeah it really rolls like a niner but with the rock garden agility of a 27.5"
    Mark my words...just simply do like a moto. 21 front and 19 or 18 in rear...something like a 29 front and 26 rear would work. keep it simple. But noooooo that wont work because....ohhhh what tube should I carry?????

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    Quote Originally Posted by rgeniec View Post
    But noooooo that wont work because....ohhhh what tube should I carry?????
    simple...26"

    Then again, when I'm on my bmx cruiser and switch to my 29er and forget my tubes, stretching a 24" tube onto a 29" rim ain't for the faint of heart!
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    Quote Originally Posted by rgeniec View Post
    You guys are all drinking the kool aid. Once 650b (27.5") comes out the marketing guys will be selling you a 26.75"- "Yeah it rolls like a 27.5" with the punchieness of a 26"!!!
    Or better yet a 28.25"- "Yeah it really rolls like a niner but with the rock garden agility of a 27.5"
    Mark my words...just simply do like a moto. 21 front and 19 or 18 in rear...something like a 29 front and 26 rear would work. keep it simple. But noooooo that wont work because....ohhhh what tube should I carry?????
    I have been riding it for a year right with my 26er and 29er. It's not marketing hype.

    What you propose a 29er front 26 rear has been tried... Trek 69er, Moots and bunch of other tries at a similar setup. Specialized made a DH bike with a 26er front and 24er rear... All of them were terrible.

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    Why Hate new innovations?

    Quote Originally Posted by rgeniec View Post
    You guys are all drinking the kool aid. Once 650b (27.5") comes out the marketing guys will be selling you a 26.75"- "Yeah it rolls like a 27.5" with the punchieness of a 26"!!!
    Or better yet a 28.25"- "Yeah it really rolls like a niner but with the rock garden agility of a 27.5"
    Mark my words...just simply do like a moto. 21 front and 19 or 18 in rear...something like a 29 front and 26 rear would work. keep it simple. But noooooo that wont work because....ohhhh what tube should I carry?????
    Hater issues?

    My brother introduced me to 650b 3-4 years ago. Only two manufacturers currently make a mass produced ready to ride full suspension 650b Jamis & KHS. There may be more but they are not well advertised. There are other manufacturers who have adapted their frames, wheels, forks, tires. I still go on rides with friends and strangers that don't even know about 650b. If the marketing guys are the ones behind getting the news out they're doing a poor job. This tire size historically pre-dated 26" wheels for early mountain bikes. Is this size better? Ride one and decide for yourself. No one is making you ride one it's just giving us more choices. I personally love my 650b. I ride a 2010 Jamis 650B2. It rides better for me than my 26" which I still have. I rode 26" bikes for 20+ years. I have tried 29" bikes. I have settled on 650b. If they come up with something better I will try that. If we never tried new innovations we would all ride steel framed single speed balloon tire (what was that old tire size?) 650b bikes.......Your old 26" tube will fit fine by the way.

    Cheers

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    Tomac Cortez (2010?) fits 650B just fine...
    But the BB is a bit high...





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    Ive got a Specialized Stumpy FSR 2010 Which according to the list on 650b palace is convertible....has anyone tried that yet? Also maybe im a bit cautious or stupid but what apart from the obvious change in wheels and tyres do you need to do to convert?

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    Can anyone of the more experienced builders tell me if this bike would accept a rear 650b wheel? I am looking at the AlexRims XD lite and build a combo with 2.1 Nevegals. Front side is good because the fork has plenty of room -'10 Rock Shox Dart 2.

    This bike is a '11 Norco Storm. As far as geometry it looks perfect - low bb height, relatively short wheelbase, good standover, semi integrated headset for greater stem height options, and even good in case I need a Angleset to correct fork angle.

    Pics below. Current tire is a Continental Speed King 26 x 2.1, which I do not like

    Thanks!
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    will Giant Trance's 07-10 work?

    Anyone try a Giant Trance years 07-10?
    sorry for the lame question gave up looking at page 15
    anyone?
    thnx for your time in advance

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    No go on a 09 TX. Very good mod to the front though.

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    Looks like 650B would fit at the seatstays. Any pics of the chainstay-BB area?

    I don't think the Dart is in the list of forks that would work.
    Better to have and not need it, than to need it and not have it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by r1Gel View Post
    Looks like 650B would fit at the seatstays. Any pics of the chainstay-BB area?

    I don't think the Dart is in the list of forks that would work.
    Thanks r1Gel! The default Dart is a 2011 model. I've swapped that one by a '10 Dart 2 and it actually has more room, due to a little different arch design for the upper part. I pass this tip on in the case you guys can't afford it/don't want to spend much on it.

    Anyway, as far as I see for the rear wheel it would not tolerate a 2.1 nev in there, just wondering if there are thinner kenda tires to put in there. A Slant Six would be just great I think.

    I will post a pic of the lower area ASAP

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    Haro Shift R3 w/ 650B fron & rear...
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    2011 epic?

    Anyone know if the 2011 epic will fit 650b? I've seen that it fits the 2010 epic, but the 2011 has the added seat stay bridge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dreich88 View Post
    Anyone know if the 2011 epic will fit 650b? I've seen that it fits the 2010 epic, but the 2011 has the added seat stay bridge.
    only one way to find out...

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    is anyone here located in/around memphis willing to let me borrow their wheels for five minutes? sounds like this should work on my bike ('06 Marin East Peak) but i'd like to test fit if possible. this is a very interesting thread....
    In a world full of people, only some want to ride. Isn't that crazy?
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    Very nice bike! Let us know how your 650B conversion rides?

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    Thanks! I'm getting the shock Pushed but have 2 long rides on it already, I'll write again in a few weeks after I've ridden it more...

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    Latest setup on my 2001 Titus Switch650blade - the new Racing Ralph 27.5 x 2.25 holding stans juuust fine.





    Lovin the 2x9 with BBG

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    Hi all, wish I could be a contributor with answers. But not yet. I'm looking at a

    MOUNTAIN CYCLE twentysixandsix carbon. Would love to make this 650b. Anyone have any thoughts?
    650b palace writes that the MOUNTAIN CYCLE FURY is confirmed compatible.


    Does anyone know what geometry spec I could use to determine if it would fit?


    Thanks for the heads up!

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    depends on the dimensions of the rear triangle like chainstay length, chainstay/seatstay width, etc. or you could build your wheels and then try them on bikes...

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    anyone try to put 650b wheels on blur LT2??? I know a guy who has put forward, but we don't know if you can put behind

    Don't hit the frame?

    thanks and greetings from Spain!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jfstone View Post
    anyone try to put 650b wheels on blur LT2??? I know a guy who has put forward, but we don't know if you can put behind

    Don't hit the frame?

    thanks and greetings from Spain!!!!!
    It works. Search the forum a bit more to find pics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMcG View Post
    It works. Search the forum a bit more to find pics.
    thanks!! Iīm going to search

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    Quote Originally Posted by rgeniec View Post
    You guys are all drinking the kool aid. Once 650b (27.5") comes out the marketing guys will be selling you a 26.75"- "Yeah it rolls like a 27.5" with the punchieness of a 26"!!!
    Or better yet a 28.25"- "Yeah it really rolls like a niner but with the rock garden agility of a 27.5"
    Mark my words...just simply do like a moto. 21 front and 19 or 18 in rear...something like a 29 front and 26 rear would work. keep it simple. But noooooo that wont work because....ohhhh what tube should I carry?????
    Right, because 650B MTB movement has been driven by the marketing giants!?

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    Anyone tried to put 650b wheels into a 2011 santa cruz chameleon

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    Quote Originally Posted by scuba View Post
    Anyone tried to put 650b wheels into a 2011 santa cruz chameleon
    I think mine's an 09, probably pretty similar if not exact specs. Fits pretty well, a little tight on the clearance where the chainstays meet. Rides awesome with the EBB dropped to the lowest position.
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    when you say a little tight, what are we talking 5mm , 10mm side of tyres , middle of tyres ?
    Nice bike, frame looks identical. What size are your tyres ? Was thinking of using 120mm travel x-fusion rl fork and single speeding it

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    Thanks, it's one of the most fun rigs I've ever ridden. The rear is a Neo-Moto 2.1, the front a 2.35. Size XL frame. I'd say the rear clears the middle by ~3mm, the sides by 5mm or so. It's probably not really enough clearance but I'm going to run it anyways. That fork should work well for XC riding. I leave the Pike 140mm all the time and it feels great.

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    Hello guys, sorry if the answer is contained somewhere in this thread, but I am not quite mastering the search engine yet.

    I just wanted to find out if a 2008 Scott Scale LTD frame would be ok to receive a 650b rear wheel. I have seen pics of recent Scale frames with clearance, but I was wondering about older models.

    Thanks in advance.

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    Please add '011 Norco Storm in the list

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    Anyone ever try a 2007 Stumpy S-Works FSR size Large?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sbrdude1 View Post
    Anyone ever try a 2007 Stumpy S-Works FSR size Large?
    Looks like the the seat stays are 14 inches from axle to the top of the arch and the chain stays are 14 3/4 inches from axle to arch. I guess I'll have to some how get a set of wheels with tires to see if they fit and if they do no more saving for a 29er!

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    I let all of the air out of the rear shock and fully compressed it to eyeball any fit issues. I noticed that the hose for the "Brain" moves into the wheel path upon 80% compression which would get damaged by the tire. I plan on replacing the "Brain" and rear shock for a Fox RP23 (7.5"-2.0") as it isn't a very user friendly system and costs far too much to service. After all of this is done I should have enough room for a 650b wheel and tire.

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    Called Pushed Ind and they said I would need a 7.875"x2.25" RP23 to replace my AFR Brain system.

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    i donīt see cannondale flash on the list?

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    Guys, would you know if a GT force can accommodate a 650b conversion?

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    Quote Originally Posted by prancisfena View Post
    Guys, would you know if a GT force can accommodate a 650b conversion?
    Yes, someone did it already, thats a 09 force as i remember.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drummercat View Post
    Yes, someone did it already, thats a 09 force as i remember.

    Cool! I'll surf the thread for that one. Thanks!

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    Good job!

    That Titus looks a lot like my 07 s works stumpy fsr. I hope to be rolling 650b as soon as I get a RP23 and have it pushed.

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    I've seen reports that the 2008 Specialized Pitch Pro will fit a 650b in the rear. Does anyone know if a 2009 or 2010 will work too?
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    Hi guys new to this forum here is my bike its a Pinarello Pina FV 5 and 650b fit perfectly.
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    Anyone know about 2006-ish Stumpjumper Hardtail Frame with 650b?

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    Anyone has info on 2011 Stumpy FSR EVO?
    I'm quite keen to convert...

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    2012 Santa Cruz 650Blur XC

    No images yet, but I just converted my 2012 Blur XC (yes XC) into a 650B and I must say that while I only have 50 miles on it, it is an improvement over the 26" set up.

    The nitty gritty of the conversion:
    Fork: Lefty 120 - I chose this as the a to c measures lower than a traditional fork and obviously tire clearance is a huge plus. At 120mm of travel I have a solid cm to spare under full compression.

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    Santa Cruz is kind enough to provide oodles of tire clearance so that was really no issue and I am currently running Schwalbe Racing Ralph 2.25 width. I can also use the Nobby Nic 2.35 if I so desire but the clearance does start to get tight.

    The one issue with this bike set up is you have to commit to running a 1x10 set up. Under full bottom out if you were to run a front der. you would contact the cable and most likely shred it or jack something up. I didn't test an f.d. to find out. I used E.13 XCX chain guide and it is doing the trick nicely. I have been running a 34t chainring and it only gets a bit cumbersome when it gets really steep... greater than say 16 percent. Needless to say you could run less than 34 t, but that is a pretty good compromise if you are fairly fit as you can pedal pavement still to connect trail heads and not be stuck churning 150rpm.

    While under full bottom out contact with the seat tube was very minimal, I did opt to shim the rear shock 2.5mm in order to limit the travel. It was unnoticeable on the trail... So no issues there.

    I think I won't mind the slight increase in BB height as I experienced less rock strikes than normal and I ride terrain that has lots of embedded rocks. The cornering felt very smooth and the slacker head tube angle has only minimally affected the climbing prowess... Its a bit slack when considering what most XC race bikes are, but I'll deal with that as technical steep downhill is much more fun now.

    Only wish? That Schwalbe would make a Snakeskin 650 tire. That EVO carcass is for the birds...

    Finally, there is a lot of talk that this is just marketing folks cramming this down the consumers throats and the fact of the matter is that 275 is legit. I have extensive time on various 26" rigs as well as 29" rigs in both HT and FS and I must say that I was a nay saying 275 hater, but after riding it I am a believer. Still has that feeling I love from the 29er, but corners much better and rolls over obstacles with ease. Its for real... You can hate on it because you are now questioning your recent 10K investment in that new dually you just bought, but this is happening because the sport is progressing beyond the limitations of 26" wheels and the fact that 29" duallies are just not the perfect solution and very limited once you want to have more than 4 - 5" of travel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Harpwood View Post
    Last week tried to fit some 650b wheels in a Specialized Epic Comp 2011, yes it fits.
    Can't place pics, because I'm not allowed to do that. If someone want to put them this site, I can sent the pics.
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    This interests me...

    I have a 2011 Epic Expert EVO. Size medium... Assuming the same frame geo as the Comp, but what size did you get the 650s to fit? Building up a new front wheel and I am considering converting...

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    Can a 2012 Santa Cruz Nickel be converted???

    Hello all, has anyone tried converting a Santa Cruz Nickel frame? I found the frame on sale and was real interested but before I make the purchase I wanted to check and see if anyone has tried it and if so how was the fit and ride/performance? Any info or advice would be greatly appreciated...
    Thanks!

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    It can work but the BB height is 13.6 stock so adding another 3/4" will put you pretty high. I was thinking of just the front with a 120 fork instead of a 130.

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    Yeah I was thinking the same after I saw how high the BB was with a 130. What fork would you recommend? I was thinking maybe a 120 X-Fusion Velvet...

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    The SC website says that the geometry is based on a 509mm axle to crown measurement, so I looked around and the closest to that is a Fox 140 at 510.9. The Fox 130, which I don't know if they still make, is 500.9 and the 120 is 490.9. The Velvet is 519mm for a 140 fork. So although SC says that their builds use a 130, their so-called "sweet spot", they base the geometry on something closer to a 140. If that is true and assuming that the additional height (radius) of a 650B is 3/4" or 19.05mm, working back wards from their 509 standard a Fox 120 would give you nearly identical vertical values. ( I'm leaving out the trigonometry I did which was probably as incorrect as it was in high school). However, I would probably go with the Fox 130 (if they still exist) which although is about another 10mm extra, it is probably lost in all the other variables such as sag and tire choice. So something can be done about the front end but I still can't figure out what to do about the back since I am still concerned about the BB height. I've probably confused you as much as I have myself. I think the bottom line is that although the Velvet is a very good fork, the Fox gives you better numbers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jrsbike View Post
    It can work but the BB height is 13.6 stock so adding another 3/4" will put you pretty high. I was thinking of just the front with a 120 fork instead of a 130.
    There is a thread in here with a guy whos done the Nickle and the Butcher. Works great.

    It's closer to 1/2" than 3/4" just so you know. Tire size can also have a factor.
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    Anyone think 650b will fit this gap? It's a 26" Kenda Komodo 2.1 with 11/16 of an inch of clearance. Magic 8 ball says doubtful to me.

    Its a Litespeed Lookout Mtn. frame btw
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    Thanks for the detailed info! I was thinking of a Fox 120 as well cuz I know how hard it is to find a 130 but I'm a bit concerned using a 26" fork...I know alot guys are using them but I'd be more comfortable using a 650b fork. So with that being said I think I'm gonna do my homework and find out a little more about the XFusion. After thinking about the numbers you mentioned I figured if the 26" Velvet 140 is 519mm then the Velvet 650b model in 120 (which is converted with an internal travel spacer) shouldn't be too far off...I'm thinking anywhere from 10mm to 15mm less then 519mm, but we'll see, I'll post back once I find out and decide on whether or not to pull the trigger on the frame.
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    Thanks skidad...if you can help point me in his direction I would greatly appreciate it! I'd like to ask him some questions before I commit on the Nickel frame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steezo420 View Post
    Thanks for the detailed info! I was thinking of a Fox 120 as well cuz I know how hard it is to find a 130 but I'm a bit concerned using a 26" fork...I know alot guys are using them but I'd be more comfortable using a 650b fork. So with that being said I think I'm gonna do my homework and find out a little more about the XFusion. After thinking about the numbers you mentioned I figured if the 26" Velvet 140 is 519mm then the Velvet 650b model in 120 (which is converted with an internal travel spacer) shouldn't be too far off...I'm thinking anywhere from 10mm to 15mm less then 519mm, but we'll see, I'll post back once I find out and decide on whether or not to pull the trigger on the frame.
    Thanks again!
    519-20 = 499 A/C height for the 120mm setting on the Velvet. Pretty simple.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drelyt View Post
    Anyone think 650b will fit this gap? It's a 26" Kenda Komodo 2.1 with 11/16 of an inch of clearance. Magic 8 ball says doubtful to me.

    Its a Litespeed Lookout Mtn. frame btw
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    Does anyone know if I can get 650b's on a 2010 BMC Speedfox 01?

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    didnt see it anywhere...will a 2008 cannondale scalpel carbon team 2 lefty convert to 650?

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    Quote Originally Posted by em6901 View Post
    didnt see it anywhere...will a 2008 cannondale scalpel carbon team 2 lefty convert to 650?
    The 2008 will not fit 650b in the rear. I think only 2011 and up will fit 650b in the rear. Of course the Lefty will work.
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    Does anyone know if the Epic expert 26" will take 650b at the rear?

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    Hi,

    I wanted to put new light wheelset 26" to my Epic, however I just have read about 650b. Now I strongly thinking to build 650b wheelset to my Epic Comp '10.

    I have some question:
    1. I read that u can put 650b front and rear to Spec Epic Comp '10 - just want to confirm this information?
    3. What is best 650b tire size for XC - 2.1, 2.2, 2.25, 2.3? I thought about Racing Ralp 2,25 (mainly forests, roots, sand, 70% dry conditions - sometimes some rides in mounties (rocks) or in mud)?
    3. Does bike with 650b wheels will climb better then 26"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by r1Gel View Post
    Just saw this
    Rocky Mountain Element 70 RSL Carbon 650B (27.5") - yes please! - thehubsa.co.za

    Too bad the MSL won't work, according to the OP (see page 2). Maybe with a travel-reducing shim?
    Have a read here

    LVT Racing: 650b, I'm in love.

    Anyone else done this ??



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    I did notice someone else asked about the Azonic AZ-7 but I can't find a response. Any luck for a 650b conversion?
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    Did you figure out if they would fit? I have an alloy and I'm curious if 650b's would fit

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    Is it possible to convert a stumpjumper expert 2008 to 650b wheels?
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    2007 rockhopper for 650B?

    will my 2007 rockhopper frame accept 650 wheels?.....just measuring from centre of dropout to the bridge on the seatstays looks like it will be close.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by prancisfena View Post
    Guys, would you know if a GT force can accommodate a 650b conversion?
    yeah i have an 08 force with 650b nevgal 2.1 in the back, fits but its very close.
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    kona abra cadabera 2011

    just bought this frame in hopes of converting to 650b-any thoughts on this being workable? if not, reliable bike mechanic in tahoe advised getting ibis mojo hd-thanks

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    Santa Cruz Superlight 650b

    HI.

    I think the SCSL should be put on the list of 650b's. I just converted mine...needed to remove the front derailleur cable stop and replace with an Origin 8 seat tube clamp. Bike feels terrific and will report back when I have more ride time.
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    Merida Ninety Nine works very well with a lot of clearance.

    Does anyone know if GT Zaskar carbon 2012 frame fits 650b wheel?
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    Just converted the wifes specialized era fsr to 650b front and rear. Sweet setup.

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    you can add the CUBE reaction GTC SL to the list of 650b compatible 26ers. I just finished my conversion and there is a lot of clearence with racing ralphs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jrs67 View Post
    will my 2007 rockhopper frame accept 650 wheels?.....just measuring from centre of dropout to the bridge on the seatstays looks like it will be close.....

    Curious too. Same bike, same question.

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    2012 kona cadabra with 650b?

    just wondering if it works out cuz im planning to purchase a cadabra and im thinking of converting it to 650 b for future use.

    On a tangent note. I have the funds to get a 650b bike (jamis and khs comes to mind) and ive been riding a 29er hardtail for a couple of years now. This may sound silly, but should I just get a 650 bike from those manufacturers or go with most folks here who has a 26er and just convert it?

    oh and btw, this is going to be my first full suspension bike, ever.

    response will be greatly appreciated,

    thanks guys!

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    Quote Originally Posted by badjuju View Post
    just wondering if it works out cuz im planning to purchase a cadabra and im thinking of converting it to 650 b for future use.

    On a tangent note. I have the funds to get a 650b bike (jamis and khs comes to mind) and ive been riding a 29er hardtail for a couple of years now. This may sound silly, but should I just get a 650 bike from those manufacturers or go with most folks here who has a 26er and just convert it?

    oh and btw, this is going to be my first full suspension bike, ever.

    response will be greatly appreciated,

    thanks guys!
    I don't know if the Kona will fit. If either the Jamis or KHS have specs that you like, then definitely go with one of them. Most of us with converted bikes did so because what we were looking for wasn't available in a 650b specific bike. It may also be a good idea to wait a while because I think 2013 is going to bring a lot more choices in 650b bikes.
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    I was hoping a NeoMoto would fit in the back of this old EBB 26-inch Gunnar Ruffian I picked up, but it's a no-go. Going to try and get my hands on a QuasiMoto to see if that will work.

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    rear tire

    Mojo HD (first model with deraueller cable in rear)

    Just tried to stuff a 2.25 Racing Ralph Schwalbe on the rear and it scrubbed swingarm. Was trying to go a little bigger than the 2.1 nevegal already on. No go.

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    Anyone try a 650b conversion on a 26" GT Peace with an eccentric bb yet? I know the sliding dropout frames work but haven't seen any info with the eccentric bb anywhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seanc1970 View Post
    HI.

    I think the SCSL should be put on the list of 650b's. I just converted mine...needed to remove the front derailleur cable stop and replace with an Origin 8 seat tube clamp. Bike feels terrific and will report back when I have more ride time.
    Whoops, forgot to quote ya, few too many PBR's. Looks darn nice there Seanc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pounder View Post
    Anyone try a 650b conversion on a 26" GT Peace with an eccentric bb yet? I know the sliding dropout frames work but haven't seen any info with the eccentric bb anywhere.
    I have a GT Peace w/ EBB with 26" wheels. Gobs of seat stay clearance with the seat stay bridge tucked up close to the triple triangle junction. Looks like chain stays should clear 2.1 tires. I'll check when I get home and throw on my 650b wheel/tire.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ranier View Post
    I have a GT Peace w/ EBB with 26" wheels. Gobs of seat stay clearance with the seat stay bridge tucked up close to the triple triangle junction. Looks like chain stays should clear 2.1 tires. I'll check when I get home and throw on my 650b wheel/tire.
    The seat stay looks like no problem, but it is the chain stay that worries me. I want to convert it over, but there is nobody in this area ridding a 650 that I could borrow a rear wheel to test fit it. I'm anxious to find out if I can make it work. Ever since riding my cousin's Beasley last month at the family reunion in the midwest, I've been sold on the 650b revolution.

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    k, got around to taking off the 650b wheel and fitting it to the EBB Peace. All pics with a Pacenti Neomoto 2.1 tire.

    As stated previously, excellent seat stay clearance,


    I bit tight with the chain stay bridge. I wouldn't go bigger than a 2.1 tire back there,


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    Thanks Ranier, looks pretty tight but it will work. My idea of 2.3 Nevegals are out though. I'll just have to build an ultra stiff wheel set to prevent it from rubbing the frame. Thanks again.

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    2011 Canfield "ONE" just added to the list...
    Just converted mine using Stans Flow's with 2.1" Neo-Motos F/R. Oh and used HOPE hubs not that it matters....lol Still have about 1/4" to 1/2" clearance in the back end near the stays and Stiffener plate. A lot of clearance with the fork for a bigger tire...



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    2009 to 2011 model brodie drifter framesets clear neomoto 2.35 in the frame and rigid fork (in fact the fork clears 700c*2.0 as well). They were marketed as a double butted 4130 crmo frame and fork, disc only, with 26*1.95 kenda fat slick type tires as a flat bar commuter that could also make a good mountain bike for trails with a tire swap. The stock fork is a 450mm axle to crown suspension corrected straight tapering blades with is disc mount. They will clear a 26*2.4 tire as an fyi. The limit on tires is really on the sides as there is loads of space under the crown.

    The frame is 100mm suspension fork geometry compatible and has a 11.88" bb height in stock twenty sixer trim so 650b's will raise it into the low twelves which is very good for an xc/trail hardtail. I can upload pics if needed to show tire clearances, and i have several NOS 2009 framesets in the medium 18.5 size at my disposal. Brodie might have some still on clearout in complete bike or frameset form in other sizes, you could check their website if interested also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thehotrodpig View Post
    Just converted the wifes specialized era fsr to 650b front and rear. Sweet setup.
    I've got a 2007 Era still as a 26er...How does she like how the bike handles?

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    Quote Originally Posted by socalbikegirl View Post
    I've got a 2007 Era still as a 26er...How does she like how the bike handles?
    Well she has been off the bike for awhile due to a bad crash. Since then I changed the fork for a fox, put on wider bars and the new 650b wheels. She is not the best at giving me feedback.

    Her first real ride on the new combo was yesterday on Funner and stormking in bend. She was happy but did not remember how it rode before.....

    Unfortunately she crashed today on tiddlywinks and reinjured the same shoulder that was hurt before.

    My impression is that it corners faster and rolls through things better similar to the feel my 29er gives me. It seems to be a good compromise for a shorter rider.

    The rear tire rubbed a tad on the Right chain stay so I dished the wheel over a tad and it cleared it up fine. The rear tire is a 2.1 nevagal I think.

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    The last generation Ala Carte (the one with the pivoting dropouts) works great as a 650B.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Samuel375 View Post
    but where are the FS bikes? hardtails are made for 29er wheels, 650b is made for FS bikes IMO. anyone gonna experiment with some more FS bikes?
    With the right fork any full sus can use 650b on the front which gets you a big improvement IMO, and There's a morr than a few full sus bikes that clear some or all 650b rear tires, i run a 650b neo-moto 2.35 on the rear of my '11 reign (the 2.3 kenda rubs the bottom most arch) a few of the specialized fsr models fit some or all the latest 650b tires in the back, some of the C-dale prophet and rush models fit them out back, do a search on here and you'll find the answers you seek.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wannabeRacer View Post
    has anyone tried 650 into Cannondale Scalpel size small?
    I think rear end on scalpels are all the same, only the triangle differs in size. I already converted my M Size 2011 Scalpel to 650b, however, clearing on the seat stay bridge is very tight with a 2.25 Racing Ralph.

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    I am running 650 on a Yeti ARC .. LOVE IT!

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    Anyone try a Knolly bike yet?

    Checked on 650b Palace and looks like the Endorphin is on the list but how about the Chilcotin?

    It has slightly longer chainstays so.....
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    I don't think 650b will work on an Endorphin - a local shop owner rides one and he's a big 650b fan - and he rides the Endorphin with 26" hoops. i think he mentioned testing but that it didn't work. I can ask again if you'd like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMcG View Post
    I don't think 650b will work on an Endorphin - a local shop owner rides one and he's a big 650b fan - and he rides the Endorphin with 26" hoops. i think he mentioned testing but that it didn't work. I can ask again if you'd like.

    If you get a chance, yeah. The 650b Palace has it listed as working but maybe the new frames won't fit. Looks tight at the seat stay/linkage area.

    Hows things going up there?

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    My Nevegal 2.35s, 321 hubs and Flow rims are on order and am wondering what everyone is doing for tubes?
    I am having a really hard time finding 650 tubes larger than 1.5 and wonder what this crew is doing?

    BTW..my bike is 90% urban so heavy tubes is my preference before you suggest tubeless. Previous tires were Maxxis Holly Roller 26x2.4 with DH tubes.

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    What i WILL do is to use 26" tubes.
    (my wheel set is also on order...)
    26" tubes have worked well for me on my 29", so using them on something smaller will work just fine.

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    650b tubes

    Used 2.2 WTB/Nevegal 2.35 tires with these tubes without issue

    Kenda Butyl tube, 27.5 (650b) x 2.1-2.35" PV - each (BTI Pt# KN-9275)

    Have 6 pair of 650b in stable so I prefer to order these (10 @ a time) from my LBS, when they are in stock @ BTI. QBP should also have a similar size (have not looked lately)

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    Quote Originally Posted by umassracer View Post
    Used 2.2 WTB/Nevegal 2.35 tires with these tubes without issue

    Kenda Butyl tube, 27.5 (650b) x 2.1-2.35" PV - each (BTI Pt# KN-9275)

    Have 6 pair of 650b in stable so I prefer to order these (10 @ a time) from my LBS, when they are in stock @ BTI. QBP should also have a similar size (have not looked lately)
    Thanks for the part number. BTI and QBP are out of stock (per my LBS)
    Cant wait until a few more MFG produce a 650b to ensure we have stock available. :-)

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    Intense 27.5 650b conversions and purpose built

    Dealers will get the chance to try the Intense Carbine 27.5 next week in Deer Valley. I have been riding mine for 3 months now, I just switched out the rear dropouts, brake adapter, and wheels, and have been shredding ever since. It will be available as an option very soon.
    Its a great way to get 2 bikes for the price of one. 2 great bikes.
    I have to say, I am really stoked on the feel of 27.5.
    I usually forget I am not on my 26, until the ground gets choppy and I start floating across it.
    The Carbine is a great all round trail bike, that can be built as light as 25lb easily, and it truly does it all. And does it well.

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    I'm running a set of 650Bs now on a 2007 Heckler, 2.3 Neo-Motos on some Flows. No shock shimming or travel limiting required and still running a ft deraileur with the stock cable routing.
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    New to the forum. Actually back into mountain biking after a several year break while concentrating on road cycling. Surprised to see how much new technology there is these days. Came across a set of 650B wheels on CL but measured my 06 Stumpy Pro and there is nowhere near enough clearence on the rear. May just clear on the front with bare mm's to spare. Might have to see what the new Intense is like when it comes out next year. I also emailed Yeti to see if they are R&D'ing a 650B - they were a little coy on their response but they hinted that they were atleast looking into it.

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    I'm very interested in trying to convert my KHS XC204 into a 650b ride...

    Should I be looking for anything other than tire clearance? I mean, are there any other crucial factors that I need to take into account while doing the conversion?
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    Got a line on a 02 Kona Bear (pre-kona dawg), anyone own one or know if this would have a chance at running 650b?

    I hope so because this deal is too good to pass up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Top_Cat View Post
    I am trying this on my Specialized this weekend, it looks tight, but I am going this way if I can squeezze er in.
    Ever find anything out on the Enduro SL? I can't tell if the e150 or the rear would fit.

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    the '09 KHS 535 showed up today, and i can report that it will definitely NOT take a 650b on the back. not even close, with a quasi-moto and about 28 psi. certainly not close enough to justify and homemade mods to the chainstay bridge.

    oh well, at least i've got a stupid-cheap deal on my first FS bike...

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    I have a 2005 Cannondale Prophet and a new Sette Reken frame build with 650b wheelsets

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    Epic S-Works 2011 650B

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    Wow
    What's the BB height?
    Better to have and not need it, than to need it and not have it.

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    Not a Spec. fan boy per say or racer but that's NICE!

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    Thanks, guys!

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    I'll give you some figures tomorrow



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    Think, 11.something... but i'll measure it en let you know.

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    2005 Cannondale Prophet. Found on craigslist for 900 then converted

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    The misses Sette Reken 650B. Using my old XT stuff it was built with only about $300 out of pocket for the wheelset and frame. Rides really well for how cheap it was.

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    Hello, just got in the forum; did you had any feedback on your question?
    Iīm also thinking on that conversion.
    Thanks

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    Parkpre solitude 1986

    Just converted an old PARKPRE SOLITUDE, no totaly finished yet, pictures after complete build.

    Online downside is that I only can fIt2.0 PACENTI NEO-MOTO.

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    Pics are with a Racing Ralph.





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    Quote Originally Posted by CBRsteve View Post
    I'm very interested in trying to convert my KHS XC204 into a 650b ride...

    Should I be looking for anything other than tire clearance? I mean, are there any other crucial factors that I need to take into account while doing the conversion?
    IF they fit, the other things you need to think about are:

    1. Will the 0.5" higher bottom bracket feel okay to you?

    2. Will the slightly slower steering (due to increased trail from the larger wheel) be okay with you.

    For most people both of these issues end up being positives rather than negatives.
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    Can I convert a Turner XCE?

    to a 650B? Mine is a special edition bike that was used for racing. Upgraded aluminum used in the tubing and stiffer bottom bracket. I have a bad wheel following a crash and am thinking about making a change. Should I ?

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    well, based on the official fork thread, i've just purchased a manitou r7. now i'm looking for wheels. the bike is a Marin East Peak, 2006. i was gonna sell this bike to get a FS29, but this thread may have breathed new life into my old steed. hopefully, i can lighten her up in the process of conversion. excited to see how it all shakes out....
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    Will This Fit. Please canīt find anything on the newer ones...


    New 2012 Scott Spark Alu, with 2,25 racing ralphs,

    2012 Rocky Mountain Element MSL 30?(if u travel reduce).

    Ï can confirm that Cannondale Optimo frame fits with 2.0 quasiīs but itīs really narrow and the frame doesnīt like the extra height. Works fine for gravel duties...

    Both the Rocky and Scott is value bikes, that could turn into a lightweight xc/trail stormer if upgraded:-)

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    So far it seems if the chain/seat stays will accept a 2.3+ tire it will usually work. I bought a cheap set of 650 wheels on eBay to test my wife's Sette. It worked with Nevegal 2.1s on it.



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    Quote Originally Posted by SLS1980 View Post
    So far it seems if the chain/seat stays will accept a 2.3+ tire it will usually work. I bought a cheap set of 650 wheels on eBay to test my wife's Sette. It worked with Nevegal 2.1s on it.



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    That makes sense. I haven't looked, but do the manufacturer sites say anything about the measurements on the rear ends?

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    Jamis Dragon 853

    Would anyone know if a early 90's Jamis Dragon would allow for a 650 wheel. The biggest area of concern I see is the lower frame, it looks like if there is just about 3/4 in room. Thanks

    PS I will also put this up on main board

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    Does anyone know if 650b tires are compatible with the new 2013 Trek Fuel EX? More specicficly, Trek Fuel EX 7.

    Cheers.

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    Trek Fuel EX - 650b

    Quote Originally Posted by Jamon View Post
    Does anyone know if 650b tires are compatible with the new 2013 Trek Fuel EX? More specicficly, Trek Fuel EX 7.

    Cheers.
    I just put a 650b on the front of my 2010 Fuel EX. Used a Velocity P35 (35mm wide) with a Kenda Nevegal 2.10.
    The ride is outstanding!! Haven't tried the rear. That's next!!! I'd send a photo however the file is too large to post here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cutbert View Post
    I just put a 650b on the front of my 2010 Fuel EX. Used a Velocity P35 (35mm wide) with a Kenda Nevegal 2.10.
    The ride is outstanding!! Haven't tried the rear. That's next!!! I'd send a photo however the file is too large to post here.
    Awesome, thanks. Let me know how the rear works out for you. I know that the Fox fork featured on the 2013 FUEL's are 650b approved! So im wondering if, while knowing this, Trek designed the rear to also be compatible with a 650b. Keeping my fingers crossed but i cant seem to find any solid evidence on the web to support this.

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    Trek will never "approve" this and WILL void your warranty, Rockshox & Fox aren't going to "approve" it either because they are now making 650b specific forks. My 2010 frame had a lifetime warranty, say "had" because this wheel voids that... They have opened up the rear triangle because they are making the Fuel more like an All Mountain type XC bike with longer travel suspension... So with longer travel comes beefier tires and more clearance needed. I really believe the 650b will fit the 2013, you just have to be careful of the tire size. I'm running a 2.10 up front and look to do the same in the rear.
    One thing I learned yesterday when I upgraded is look at the travel of the fork, when bottomed out the tire could hit the bottom of the steer tube. Fox forks F-Series forks in 2010 didn't travel far enough for mine to bottom out at the steer tube, so I'm good to go! Good luck with that!
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    Cannondale F1000?

    Hey all- Any idea if a 650b wheel will fit on the rear of 1999 Cannondale F1000? I love this old bike as it fits me so much better than my 29er. I'd like to give 650b a shot without getting a new frame. I have about 3/4" clearance between the current back tire and the frame. Thanks.

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    2010 Trek Fuel EX 67.5r convert

    Trek had the 69r (29 up front, 26 in the rear), didn't last, in my opinion the wheel size difference was too drastic. This one though, works! 27.5 up front, 26 in the rear. What a ride! The confidence of diving into a downhill turn - no washout. Rocks, logs - no bobble.
    Over obstacles it seems to lighten the rear end giving more control when you're clicked in. The rear bunny hops easily while the front is still planted for steering control. At the end of the 2 hour ride this day, my arms didn't feel like I just finished an upper body weight lifting session, my bare hands didn't feel the resonating vibrations through my aluminum bars, no blisters. Total Fun Factor = 10!

    Photo 1: 67.5r = 26" Bontrager XR3x2.2 rear; Kenda 27.5x2.10 front
    Photo 2: 26r = 26" Bontrager XR3x2.2 rear; Bontrager FR3x2.35 front

    Bottom brkt height: 26r - 11-3/4" .... 67.5r - 12"
    Head angle: 26r - 67.2 degrees .... 67.5r - 66.8 degrees (with this tire combo)

    The way this handled as a 67.5r I'm not sure if I want to go to the 650b front and rear... I am extremely happy with the handling as it is now! I loved that Fuel EX as a 26r, I am ecstatic with it as a 67.5r!
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    Awesome pics cutbert. Looks great, now im excited to get my hands on a 2013 model and do a little experimenting myself.

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    '05 Stumpy FSR compatible?

    I've seen that the '08-'10 stumpjumpers will fit 650b rear wheels but can't find any mention of older models.

    I'd like to try a set of 650b wheels on my 2005 FSR stumpjumper expert.

    I'm pretty sure the front will work with my Fox fork. Does any one know if the rear will fit with a Nevegal 2.1 tire?

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    Try measuring the clearance on the back. I measured my 06 Stumpy FSR and there is no where near enough clearance on the back for a 650B. Not sure if the 05 and 06 are the same??

    Quote Originally Posted by sbstumpy View Post
    I've seen that the '08-'10 stumpjumpers will fit 650b rear wheels but can't find any mention of older models.

    I'd like to try a set of 650b wheels on my 2005 FSR stumpjumper expert.

    I'm pretty sure the front will work with my Fox fork. Does any one know if the rear will fit with a Nevegal 2.1 tire?

    Thanks

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    New question here.

    GT I-Drive 4 3.0 with Racing Ralph 2.25 - size for size with chainstay arch.
    Anyone think a 2.0 Quasimoto or a 2.1 Neomoto will fit in there ? (see picture)
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    Quote Originally Posted by YET1 View Post
    Try measuring the clearance on the back. I measured my 06 Stumpy FSR and there is no where near enough clearance on the back for a 650B. Not sure if the 05 and 06 are the same??
    Thanks. Measuring, the smallest gap is right around 0.5 inches (between the tire and the frame near the between the chain stays).

    But this is with a Kenda small block 8, which is pretty small.

    What would be most helpful it to know the dimensions of a mounted/inflated Kenda 2.1 650b.

    Can't seen to find that anywhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seanc1970 View Post
    HI.

    I think the SCSL should be put on the list of 650b's. I just converted mine...needed to remove the front derailleur cable stop and replace with an Origin 8 seat tube clamp. Bike feels terrific and will report back when I have more ride time.
    Did you have to limit rear suspension travel by shimming the shock, or were you able to keep full travel with a 650b rear wheel?

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    Anyone know if the Ragley bagger frame will fit 650b wheels, looking to do a 26" 650b build burly hardtail and this and the chumba Hx1 are on the list with lyriks up front.

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    Has anyone tried a Santa Cruz Nomad?

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    Will a 2010 Superlight frame fit a 27.5 in the rear? Thanks

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    2001 GT i-dirve team now with 650b

    After a few false starts with tire clearance issues, I got it to work with the Fire XC 2.1

    I love the CODA XYZ bar ends!
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    Yep you can add Ibis SL-R to it now...
    I just added a like to your facebook page!

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    Has anyone tried an Spec Enduro S-Works with the Specialized Future Shock E160TA forks?

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    Mojo SL-R 650b

    One of the first 650b Compliant Ibis Mojo SL-R's
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cutbert View Post
    Trek had the 69r (29 up front, 26 in the rear), didn't last, in my opinion the wheel size difference was too drastic. This one though, works! 27.5 up front, 26 in the rear. What a ride! The confidence of diving into a downhill turn - no washout. Rocks, logs - no bobble.
    Over obstacles it seems to lighten the rear end giving more control when you're clicked in. The rear bunny hops easily while the front is still planted for steering control. At the end of the 2 hour ride this day, my arms didn't feel like I just finished an upper body weight lifting session, my bare hands didn't feel the resonating vibrations through my aluminum bars, no blisters. Total Fun Factor = 10!

    Photo 1: 67.5r = 26" Bontrager XR3x2.2 rear; Kenda 27.5x2.10 front
    Photo 2: 26r = 26" Bontrager XR3x2.2 rear; Bontrager FR3x2.35 front

    Bottom brkt height: 26r - 11-3/4" .... 67.5r - 12"
    Head angle: 26r - 67.2 degrees .... 67.5r - 66.8 degrees (with this tire combo)

    The way this handled as a 67.5r I'm not sure if I want to go to the 650b front and rear... I am extremely happy with the handling as it is now! I loved that Fuel EX as a 26r, I am ecstatic with it as a 67.5r!
    Where are you coming up with those HA measurements?

    Your 2010 Trek has a stock HA of 69 degrees. In 2012 they changed it to 68 degrees. Putting a 650B wheel on your 2010 bike is not gonna drop it to 66.8 unless you installed a longer fork. Maybe 68.5 is more like it at most. Your BB measurements are off as well as it's about 13.2" with 26" tires.
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    2010 specialized epic comp carbon works too


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    specialized epic comp carbon - 650b

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    Winging it

    Quote Originally Posted by skidad View Post
    Where are you coming up with those HA measurements?

    Your 2010 Trek has a stock HA of 69 degrees. In 2012 they changed it to 68 degrees. Putting a 650B wheel on your 2010 bike is not gonna drop it to 66.8 unless you installed a longer fork. Maybe 68.5 is more like it at most. Your BB measurements are off as well as it's about 13.2" with 26" tires.
    I used an iPhone app while it was leaning against the wall. It may not have been exactly level, so I was winging it, not a truly scientific approach. In hindsight I probably shouldn't have even posted numbers.... I do know one thing, I love the new feel. Sorry.
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    Has anyone tried a 2010 yeti 575
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    Quote Originally Posted by rocketfuel View Post
    Has anyone tried an Spec Enduro S-Works with the Specialized Future Shock E160TA forks?
    Would love to know it too

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    A different Question

    Shorter travel based 650's?

    http://forums.mtbr.com/650b/26er-fra...0b-813927.html

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    So this thread got me thinking about putting 650b's on my 2011 Remedy. First i measured what i have on the bike, wich is just the bonty tires 4 xr's 26 x 2.35 (58/58) these measure 27.5 ? so what would be the advantage of putting on 650B's ???? there is about a little less then an inch clearance already so i could go a little bigger but is it going to make a differance?

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    Quote Originally Posted by trail xj View Post
    So this thread got me thinking about putting 650b's on my 2011 Remedy. First i measured what i have on the bike, wich is just the bonty tires 4 xr's 26 x 2.35 (58/58) these measure 27.5 ? so what would be the advantage of putting on 650B's ???? there is about a little less then an inch clearance already so i could go a little bigger but is it going to make a differance?
    What you will acheive is a bike that rolls like no tomorrow...

    I do not think I will ever go back to a 26 bike setup after riding 27.5....

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    So this thread got me thinking about putting 650b's on my 2011 Remedy. First i measured what i have on the bike, wich is just the bonty tires 4 xr's 26 x 2.35 (58/58) these measure 27.5 ? so what would be the advantage of putting on 650B's ???? there is about a little less then an inch clearance already so i could go a little bigger but is it going to make a differance?
    Stop thinking, do it. I can only fit the 650b on the front of my Fuel EX, but let me tell you, it's friggin' awesome! I just wish my chainstay could accept the 650b wheel in the rear because after riding this setup for a more than a month now, I am totally sold on the 650b wheel size. No debate, best of two possible worlds, roll over + handling = function & fun.

    My LBS (a Trek store) said that Trek will NEVER go to 650b as a bike design because of their affiliation with Gary Fisher and his "inventing the 29r", what a load of crap and an ignorant stance to take.
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    Your store is wrong. I've talked to someone who knows a shitload more than a store would in the industry and he says trek and specialized are both working on 650B bikes for next year (as in the 2014 model year). They'd be fools not to be given how the XC race season alone went this year, not to mention that GF himself wanted to do 650B bikes 30 plus years ago...
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeeEight View Post
    Your store is wrong. I've talked to someone who knows a shitload more than a store would in the industry and he says trek and specialized are both working on 650B bikes for next year (as in the 2014 model year). They'd be fools not to be given how the XC race season alone went this year, not to mention that GF himself wanted to do 650B bikes 30 plus years ago...
    Big 4 can't ignore the 650B market, the benefits ARE real and as the wave of new 650B bikes become available and tested with positive results customers are gonna want that improvement (unless you're a die hard 26" fan boy with blinders on). What will be interesting is to see how they handle the 650B thing. Will they just stick a toe in the water with a bike or 2 or will it be a real commitment with a full lineup possibly even eliminating 26" bikes in certain segments (120-150 mm bikes). Will any of them do a hard tail it'll be interesting to see as well or just full squish? 2013 model year will be fun with a slew of new 650B bikes arriving and info inevitability starts leaking from the big 4 for the 2014 model year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeeEight View Post
    Your store is wrong. I've talked to someone who knows a shitload more than a store would in the industry and he says trek and specialized are both working on 650B bikes for next year (as in the 2014 model year). They'd be fools not to be given how the XC race season alone went this year, not to mention that GF himself wanted to do 650B bikes 30 plus years ago...
    I hope you are correct and my LBS is not, of course I should know better than to listen to them, these guys are hardcore 29rs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by trail xj View Post
    So this thread got me thinking about putting 650b's on my 2011 Remedy. First i measured what i have on the bike, wich is just the bonty tires 4 xr's 26 x 2.35 (58/58) these measure 27.5 ? so what would be the advantage of putting on 650B's ???? there is about a little less then an inch clearance already so i could go a little bigger but is it going to make a differance?
    I know that the (26") Bonty's that came on my EX9 are VERY tall. Never measured them, but you raise a good point and got me thinking, why don't you 650 guys measure what you have (tire/diameter) and post it up here?

    I will also say this, when MX bikes went from 18" rear wheels to 19", the overall diameter changed little (tire profile was lowered on 19 to keep approx. same diameter) but that larger wheel made a big difference. Of course alot of that was effects on rubber from engine torque and other forces, but still, maybe there is more to a larger hoop than just overall tire diameter?

    I'll leave that to you engineers out there to explain

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    You should give 650b wheelset a try on your remedy. At the worst you'll decide it's not for you. My personal experience is I'm not buying anymore 26" bikes. I've been riding my 650b bike since February 2012 and it is in every way better for my style of riding. There really is a difference which is noticeable. That being said it is not as dramatic as going from a hard tail to full suspension bike. Can you live without the change? Of course, but half the fun of riding is upgrading our bikes and our riding experience.
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    Good job! 2010 Scalpel

    Hello,
    Can anyone tell me, itīs for a friend, if this Scalpel (aluminum), accepts 27,5 wheels?
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    I recently converted my Rush Carbon to 650B. I'm using a Nevegal 2.1 and had to remove the brace from the swingarm and haven't noticed any increased flex as a result, I weigh 165# .
    Lovin the new ride and the Rush rolls amazing over the rocky rooty stuff that I used to stall with 26er's.

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    Chromag Samurai fits 650b with a 2.3 tire. About a half inch of mud clearance on all sides.

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    Does 650b fit an enduro?

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    Quote Originally Posted by trail xj View Post
    So this thread got me thinking about putting 650b's on my 2011 Remedy. First i measured what i have on the bike, wich is just the bonty tires 4 xr's 26 x 2.35 (58/58) these measure 27.5 ? so what would be the advantage of putting on 650B's ???? there is about a little less then an inch clearance already so i could go a little bigger but is it going to make a differance?
    FWIW I fit a 650B wheelset to a Remedy 8 and it was great but there was barely any clearance with a 2.0 Quasimoto on a 33mm rim. You might be able to fit a 2.1 but I also tried a 2.35 Nevegal and not even close.

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    Add the Breezer Lightning Team frame (26") to the list.

    *finally* got my Breezer Lightning Team (26er) frame that I just couldn't pass up. Fitted up a Velocity P35 rear wheel shod with 2.1 NeoMotos. Plenty of clearance on the chain stay/chain stay bridge. Same for the seat stays but kinda close to the seat stay bridge... maybe a 5-6mm.
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    will my 2012 trek fuel ex 8 fit a 650b wheelset atleast the front only? I know the rear would be tight, i have searched around but no luck. Im planning on buying stans crest and neo motos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ranier View Post
    Add the Breezer Lightning Team frame (26") to the list.

    *finally* got my Breezer Lightning Team (26er) frame that I just couldn't pass up. Fitted up a Velocity P35 rear wheel shod with 2.1 NeoMotos. Plenty of clearance on the chain stay/chain stay bridge. Same for the seat stays but kinda close to the seat stay bridge... maybe a 5-6mm.
    Could you please share some pics?

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    Hi, I just fitted my Scott Scale 60 (Alu) with 650b, 2.25 Racing Ralphs, approx 7mm clearance at the side (chaninstays) and about 10mm forward towards bottom bracket area.

    Cannot post pictures yet, but if youre interested there a couple of low res cell-pictures in this thread (posted with username "PBC");

    URL - happymtb.org/forum/read.php/1/1134116/page=12

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    650B fit in to

    My 2012 Lapiarre Zesty 314 and my 2013 Merida 120 XT.
    Tires are Kenda Nevagal 2.1.
    Just 8mm clearance though so maybe just for summer riding.

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    Been looking forever but can't find any info on it but has anyone tried a Commencal Meta 55 ?
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    I searched this thread for "firebird" and came up with nothing. So I'll go ahead and add that the Pivot Firebird fully compatible front and back.

    Here are some pics in another post
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    will this fork fit a 650b front wheel?

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    Would 650b wheels on a 29er frame screw-up the geometry....or benefit it, due the the slight reduction in rolling weight?
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    26" LHT Rim Brake 650b Compatible

    Thanks Shimano

    <a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/saddleupbike/8159878933/" title="650b LHT by SaddleUpBike, on Flickr"><img src="https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8339/8159878933_4dd70588b6_c.jpg" width="800" height="600" alt="650b LHT"></a>

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    Something a little ... different. Pre-war Schwinn getting the 650b treatment.

    ...strictly downhill...

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    2008 SJ FSR and Ibis Mojo SL both take 650b

    Both my 2008 SJ FSR Expert and my buddy's Ibis Mojo SL accept 650b wheels with Kenda Nevegals (2.35 front, 2.1 rear). It has transformed my bike. The BB on the FSR went from about 12 to about 13 inches, unweighted, which is fine for our rocky east coast riding, and is similar to many other bikes. The Mojo is a little over 13 inches. The handling in the FSR is still great, and I definitely notice the ability to roll over stuff a little better, while still allowing me to get the front and back wheels off the ground and move the bike around the way I like.

    DO NOT get rid of your 26-inch wheeled bike until you are sure it won't fit 650b wheels. You will go from old-school to cutting-edge, and love the improvement.

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    I haven't taken pics of it yet, but my girlfriend inherited a sterling ladies bike from her grandmother and I just saw it for the first time on sunday. Checked the tire size figuring it'll need new rubber as part of a restoration and the tires are 650B-584 bead (26 x 1 1/2 canadian to be specific).
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    Quote Originally Posted by joshboro View Post
    Both my 2008 SJ FSR Expert and my buddy's Ibis Mojo SL accept 650b wheels with Kenda Nevegals (2.35 front, 2.1 rear). It has transformed my bike. The BB on the FSR went from about 12 to about 13 inches, unweighted, which is fine for our rocky east coast riding, and is similar to many other bikes. The Mojo is a little over 13 inches. The handling in the FSR is still great, and I definitely notice the ability to roll over stuff a little better, while still allowing me to get the front and back wheels off the ground and move the bike around the way I like.

    DO NOT get rid of your 26-inch wheeled bike until you are sure it won't fit 650b wheels. You will go from old-school to cutting-edge, and love the improvement.
    Josh, welcome aboard (Jeff here). Glad you're like the setup...but I already new you would

    I've just helped Art get some stuff ordered for his Mojo. Hopefully by the end of next week he'll be rolling 650 F/B
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