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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyla View Post
    Nicolai Helius AC (26) frame with a Velocity P35 rim and Pacenti Neo Moto 650B x 2.3 tyres. Tight, but sufficient.
    The Fork is a Magura Thor 140mm which leaves about 4mm of clearance.
    Hi, do you have more pictures?

    I also have a Helius AC and have a set of hubs laying around. I have two forks that can take 650b's also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warp View Post
    Hi, do you have more pictures?

    I also have a Helius AC and have a set of hubs laying around. I have two forks that can take 650b's also.

    Thanks!
    Let me know how this goes.... so don't want to punt 500 quid on custom geo to get 5mm put on the chain stays...

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    anybody looking for a gently used set of American Classic 650's? got some quasi moto rubber on them....less than 1 season for hoops/tires....
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    +1 on the Voodoo Bokor

    I bought a brand new Voodoo Bokor frame off E-Bay for $240 shipped. It was a bit of an impulse buy because my other frames left me feeling a bit worried about clearance around the chainstays with the Velocity P35 and Racing Ralph wheel/tire combo I want to use. The Voodoo gave me a ton more clearance over every other frame I've tried. The 26" Inbred was the worse and ironically enough my Swobo Folsom frame actually gave me much more room around the tire than the 26" Soul Cycles Hooligan I tried. So I'm going to 650B the Voodoo, return the Folsom to 26" cruiser duty and then build the Inbred up with an old Marzocchi Shiver SC I have laying around and use that bike for urban and pump track riding. I think I will probably end up selling the Soul Cycles frame. It's too nice of a frame to just sit in a box unused....

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    Quote Originally Posted by derby View Post
    All these are 2010 frames, except one frame noted, most which do clear 650b are very tight clearance.

    5.0 – 6.7 inch Frames that clear 650b x 2.3, may need a small shock travel limiting shim

    Ellsworth: Epiphany (tested - clears seat tube at bottom travel)
    Titus: Guapo (2008 – 2009 only)
    Knolly: Endorphin (2.1 max)
    Jamis: Dakar, Parker
    Santa Cruz: Heckler, Butcher, Nickel, Blur Carbon BLT Carbon
    Orange: Alpine (160mm), Five (140mm), St4 (120mm)
    Foes: XCT, FXR
    Intense: Uzzi VP
    Pivot: Firebird (tested - clears seat tube at bottom travel)
    Ibis: Mojo (may require small travel limit shim depending on shock, except HD easily clears seat tube at bottom travel)
    Evil: Revolt
    Specialized: Stumpjumper, Epic
    Trek: Scratch, Remedy
    GT: Sensor (2.0 max), Force , Force Carbon
    Rocky Mountain: Slayer (2.2 max), Altitude (2.2 max)
    Marin: Mt. Vision, Wolf Ridge


    5.0 – 6.7 inch Frames that do not clear 650b:

    Ellsworth: Moment
    Titus: Guapo (2010)
    Banshee: (all)
    Commencal: (all)
    Santa Cruz: Blur, BLT, Nomad, Nomad Carbon
    Yeti: (all)
    Felt: (all)
    Specialized: Enduro Carbon
    Trek: Top Fuel
    BMC: (all)
    Update for the Nomad Carbon: I had an opportunity to mount my rear 650b with nearly new Neo-moto 2.3 to a 2011 Nomad Carbon. It barely clears but almost rubs across the center knobs, maybe 2mm clearance. Not enough tire clearance to avoid possible carbon fiber structural damage to the swingarm when small rocks are pulled through the clearance IMO. Smaller 650b tires may clear better, but would be inappropriate for this 6+ inch travel bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by derby View Post
    Update for the Nomad Carbon: I had an opportunity to mount my rear 650b with nearly new Neo-moto 2.3 to a 2011 Nomad Carbon. It barely clears but almost rubs across the center knobs, maybe 2mm clearance. Not enough tire clearance to avoid possible carbon fiber structural damage to the swingarm when small rocks are pulled through the clearance IMO. Smaller 650b tires may clear better, but would be inappropriate for this 6+ inch travel bike.
    Derby - RE: the Santa Cruz bikes you have listed, I have a Blur LT2 that fits a 650b Wolverine in the back without plenty of clearance. I have to assume that the BLT you have listed as not fitting is the first edition.

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    This list has been consolidated over at http://www.650bpalace.com
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    is there really that much of a difference? i dont think i could ever justify buying a whole new wheelset for a not really noticeable difference in ride characteristics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cooptroop123 View Post
    is there really that much of a difference? i dont think i could ever justify buying a whole new wheelset for a not really noticeable difference in ride characteristics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TwoTone View Post
    Welcome to the forums DavidCopperfield Jr.
    ummm.....ok. whats that supposed to mean?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cooptroop123 View Post
    is there really that much of a difference? i dont think i could ever justify buying a whole new wheelset for a not really noticeable difference in ride characteristics.

    Yes, in my opinion it is worth, specially the front tire. Based on the almost 3 months I have been riding 650B, I would say that 70% of the benefits I have experienced come from the front. For your reference I have a 2010 Scott Genius 40 running a 650B up front (no room in the back) and a 2011 Specialized Camber, fully 650B.
    Particularly the Scott Genius performance has improved dramatically and I really enjoy riding it even more than with the original 26" incher.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TwoTone View Post
    Welcome to the forums DavidCopperfield Jr.
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    Just get a 29er and get all the benefits
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    Quote Originally Posted by scsamoyan View Post
    Just get a 29er and get all the benefits
    There are some benefits and some drawbacks to any of the wheel sizes. I personally prefer my 650b set up on my SC Beckler or my Trek 69'er over any of the 29'ers that I have tried. But on some trails I my wife's Tallboy rocks. However, on super tight and twisty singletrack with short steep climbs I still prefer my 26 inch bike. Ride what you like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scsamoyan View Post
    Just get a 29er and get all the benefits
    Can't just buy a 29er for all the benefits and leave the drawbacks in the store.

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    I'd also add that 29" is not really a viable size for guys (and gals) that ride size small frames, such as myself. Maybe as time goes on they'll dial in the small 29 frames, but not yet.

    On another note, I haven't make the leap to 650B yet (lack-o-funds), but was at least going to try a front wheel on my Trek Fuel (Fox 32 F-Series Fit RLC). Question is, I'm running a 26" Racing Ralph 2.4 up front now, and it only clears arch by maybe 10-15mm (from memory, I'm not at home). Has anyone posted measurements of total circumference of 650B using different wheel/tire combos? Different thread maybe? Will it be much different than what I'm now using? I'll post exact circumference of my 26" 2.4 later when I get home. Thanks.

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    measure the outer diameter. it's an easier measurement to take...Neo Moto is designed to have a 703mm diameter (+/- 3mm). Then use some basic geometry. Circumference=Πdiameter

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    Duh me, that's what I meant: diameter, not circumference (that's why I'm an artist and not an accountant).

    Anyway, 26" 2.4 Racing Ralph at 25psi on DT Swiss M1800 rim is ~673mm
    Clearance to Arch on Fox 32 F Series Fit RLC fork is ~13mm
    So, axle to arch is ~350mm... will a 650B Neo Moto even fit? (703mm/2=351.5mm). I thought ALL Fox forks would work (with mods to prevent crown contact).

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    You may want to copy this over to the 650B fork thread, also a sticky. I, personally, have not found a FOX that doesn't work. I would guess your numbers are a little off somewhere....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cracked Headtube View Post
    You may want to copy this over to the 650B fork thread, also a sticky. I, personally, have not found a FOX that doesn't work. I would guess your numbers are a little off somewhere....
    Probably. I measured in inches and converted to mm, and I'm terrible with numbers. I'll double, no, triple check measurements tonight. Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trekfueler View Post
    Probably. I measured in inches and converted to mm, and I'm terrible with numbers. I'll double, no, triple check measurements tonight. Thanks.
    Why? Fox forks work. All of them. Without question. I have personally tried it in several Fox forks and have yet to find one that didn't work.

    Why is there even a question as to a 650B working in a Fox when there has never been a single report that says it didn't work?

    I have personally tried in both QR and 15QR...

    2008 F32 RL 120 & 100
    2010 F32 RLC 100
    2011 F32 RLC 150
    2009 Van32 RLC 140
    2004 F32 RLC

    All F32 forks seem to have the same distance from arch to dropout, despite there being manufacturing differences in the lowers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTR-33 View Post
    Why? Fox forks work. All of them. Without question. I have personally tried it in several Fox forks and have yet to find one that didn't work.

    Why is there even a question as to a 650B working in a Fox when there has never been a single report that says it didn't work?

    I have personally tried in both QR and 15QR...

    2008 F32 RL 120 & 100
    2010 F32 RLC 100
    2011 F32 RLC 150
    2009 Van32 RLC 140
    2004 F32 RLC

    All F32 forks seem to have the same distance from arch to dropout, despite there being manufacturing differences in the lowers.
    Any 80mm Fox Forks?

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    Doesn´t matter if 50, 60, 80 or 150 mm travel!

    her´s a pic of a fully compressed Fox F80 R with a 650b wheel on it.
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    Big differents

    Wow thats a bad pic!, Fox forks work...my 120 is a perfect match for my 2.1 Nevegal on Velocity Blunts. Fox might as well just sell them as 6560b compatable & not change a thing.

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    A problem with a lot of fox forks, is that many don't get claimed travel, so one particular one not actually using its rated travel and clearing a 650B might not mean that one that does manage to get full travel will still clear the larger tire.

    I have an F100X, even with very little air pressure it and me putting 200 pounds over it, it won't go past 86mm, and that's even AFTER an oil change.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeeEight View Post
    A problem with a lot of fox forks, is that many don't get claimed travel, so one particular one not actually using its rated travel and clearing a 650B might not mean that one that does manage to get full travel will still clear the larger tire.

    I have an F100X, even with very little air pressure it and me putting 200 pounds over it, it won't go past 86mm, and that's even AFTER an oil change.
    I have a solution for this problem. I´ve allready written a "how to" in a european forums. When I have the time I gona translate it.

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    photo

    No worries 650, just friendly ribbing. I;m no pro photog

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    Liteville 301 converted

    Clearance is good, but it slightly rubbs if fully compressed. Shoudn´t stop the wheel if it happens while riding...









    If the 190 mm long shock ist compressed to 142 mm, thers no frame contact. The fully compressed length of the DT shock is 145 mm. I think I give it a try.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trekfueler View Post
    I'd also add that 29" is not really a viable size for guys (and gals) that ride size small frames, such as myself. Maybe as time goes on they'll dial in the small 29 frames, but not yet.

    On another note, I haven't make the leap to 650B yet (lack-o-funds), but was at least going to try a front wheel on my Trek Fuel (Fox 32 F-Series Fit RLC). Question is, I'm running a 26" Racing Ralph 2.4 up front now, and it only clears arch by maybe 10-15mm (from memory, I'm not at home). Has anyone posted measurements of total circumference of 650B using different wheel/tire combos? Different thread maybe? Will it be much different than what I'm now using? I'll post exact circumference of my 26" 2.4 later when I get home. Thanks.
    Im 5'4" and ride a small Lynskey pro 29. My partner is 5'3" and rides a custom lynskey 29er. Mine is off the shelf and fits great. I also have a 15" rocky mountain vertex rsl 26" wheels that fits very well. As much as I love the rocky mountain I just find myself riding the 29er lots more. To each his own but don't believe the falacy tha shorter people should not ride 29" wheel bikes or that the geometry on small 29ers isn't good. I've owned 5 other off the shelf small size 29ers and all were awesome. All that said, I'm now in the process of building a cannondale taurine/lefty 650b, will I love it as much as my 29er? I'm very curious to find out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeeEight View Post
    A problem with a lot of fox forks, is that many don't get claimed travel, so one particular one not actually using its rated travel and clearing a 650B might not mean that one that does manage to get full travel will still clear the larger tire.

    I have an F100X, even with very little air pressure it and me putting 200 pounds over it, it won't go past 86mm, and that's even AFTER an oil change.
    Your point is irrelevant. What does fork travel have to do with with tire clearance? The axle to brace length and the axle to crown length fully compressed are the only things that matter. How much travel the fork has or how well it uses it are completely irrelevant to how well it will work for 650B.

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    What it has to do with it is that if your fork magically delivers on the full travel as the one in that shitty quality photo above appears to be doing, WHILE riding, it means you've hit something hard and large with the front wheel. When that happens the bottom of the tire is compressed and that air is displaced to elsewhere in the tire, which can in fact cause the top of it to grow slightly in height. And there's from the photo, very little to no room to spare. And that's WITH what looks to be a Schwalbe 2.25 Racing Ralph going from the tread pattern. That's a very short knob height tire. A Nevegal or Neo-Moto 2.35 is going to definitely going to make crown contact in such a bottom out on that fork.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeeEight View Post
    What it has to do with it is that if your fork magically delivers on the full travel as the one in that shitty quality photo above appears to be doing, WHILE riding, it means you've hit something hard and large with the front wheel. When that happens the bottom of the tire is compressed and that air is displaced to elsewhere in the tire, which can in fact cause the top of it to grow slightly in height. And there's from the photo, very little to no room to spare. And that's WITH what looks to be a Schwalbe 2.25 Racing Ralph going from the tread pattern. That's a very short knob height tire. A Nevegal or Neo-Moto 2.35 is going to definitely going to make crown contact in such a bottom out on that fork.
    What is the point you're attempting to make? That if you bottom out a Fox, under some circumstance that there is a possibility that the tire can contact the crown?

    Yeah it could, what does that have to do with the fork having 80mm of travel or 150mm of travel?

    Your assertion is that all Fox fork "work" because most of them don't make use of their full travel makes no sense. Neither does the assertion that the amount of travel will dictate the likelihood of bottoming out. Not to mention that even if you were correct in your assertions, that would mean very little to the next guy, thus making photo evidence of what one fork could do irrelevant to the next guy because his fork may or may not work similarly.

    There is no question whether or not a Fox will work. All of the forks are manufactured the same and will utilize their travel the same within a small degree of variance. The point is that within this small degree of variance, what tire and rim you are using is going to matter much more than which Fox fork you are using.

    I made a list of all the Fox forks I tried, of which two forks are the same exact fork with adjustments to the travel (spacers added/removed) and air let out and not a single one would rub on my 32mm outside width rim with a Nevegal 2.35.

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    List of Weights for current full suspension 650B frames?

    Maybe this has been discussed or posted somewhere.... If so indulge me. Does anyone know the weight of frames like the Jamis 650B's all years 2010 until today? I'm also wondering about Haro's frame, KHS's new full suspension 650B frame or any others I'm sure I missed. It would be great to know as a reference before building a 650B frame up only to find it is as heavy as a 1990's downhill bike.
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    Does anyone know the weight of frames like the Jamis 650B's all years 2010 until today?

    Between 7 to 7.5lbs frame and shock. The Haro 650B frame is about the same.

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    Thanks more bike frames please

    Thanks Pat,
    It would be great if anyone knows the weight of any other 650B specific frames. It would also be great if anyone has the weight of their 650B conversion frame. Scott Spark 30?
    Bye the way Pat did you know this is your brother Mike?
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    Jamis 650B2 Frame weight and picture

    The Jamis 650B frame weight in 17" with the Rock Shox 3.1 is 6lbs. 6oz. or 2910gr.
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    6 pounds 6.6 oz = 666 - YIKES!

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    looks like you have a new frame there! have you ridden it yet? I talked to Vetana about a El Bastardo frame but I can get a 650b2 complete bike for the same $$ or less. But if the ride suchs its no bargin.

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    2011 Turner 5 spot fits 650b no problems. I have been setting this up and threw on 650b wheels from another bike just to confirm that they did not fit. I had heard that the dw 5 spot did not fit 650b, but for the 2011 model that is not the case. The wheels in pics are 2.3 Neomotos on blunt rims. No clearance issues with stays, seatube, or front derailer.

    Let the air out of the shock and compressed the suspension fully, not even close to the seat tube. About a 1/4" min clearance to the rear triangle bridges.

    The only thing is the bike is pretty tall with 650b, I rode it around on the street, seemed kinda high. I'll give it a go sometime, but for now my intention is to run 26" wheels. The bike is tall enough with 26"wheels.

    It'll be a while before I get a good ride, as I hurt my ribs doing an endo at the local BMX track riding around with my kids.

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    EXCELLENT Pics!!!!!!!!!!!

    [QUOTE=James Lee;8668924]2011 Turner 5 spot fits 650b no problems. I have been setting this up and threw on 650b wheels from another bike just to confirm that they did not fit. I had heard that the dw 5 spot did not fit 650b, but for the 2011 model that is not the case. The wheels in pics are 2.3 Neomotos on blunt rims. No clearance issues with stays, seatube, or front derailer.

    Let the air out of the shock and compressed the suspension fully, not even close to the seat tube. About a 1/4" min clearance to the rear triangle bridges.

    The only thing is the bike is pretty tall with 650b, I rode it around on the street, seemed kinda high. I'll give it a go sometime, but for now my intention is to run 26" wheels. The bike is tall enough with 26"wheels.

    It'll be a while before I get a good ride, as I hurt my ribs doing an endo at the local BMX track riding around with my kids.


    Thanks for them so much for taking time to take and post those. I've been jones'n for a DW Link Turner 650b. I'm really surprised the 2.3 NM fits in there, but pics don't lie. As far as the high BB, do you know what the i2i and stroke is on the supplied shock? perhaps a slightly shorter i2i would fix that even though I have a RFX 650b with a 13.3/4" BB and I smack it on rocks a lot riding our trails here. Thanks!
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    Nice! So if my custom ground rear sh*ts the bed I now know I can get another that fits without modification
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    I didnt measure the bottom bracket height as I assumed most of the bottom bracket heights are measured sagged and I didnt have someone handy to help me measure. I can tell you that the bottom bracket is about 3/4" or so higher than with 26" wheels.

    I sure hope that DT doesnt go and lower the bottom bracket of the 5 spot for at least 5 years, otherwise I'll have a really hard time not buying a new one. Seriously,even with the screaming deals on 5 sot frames lately, it's still a very expensive toy.

    Wouldnt it be great if manufacturers made a bike that has a low bottom bracket with 26" wheels, and a slightly high bottom bracket with 650b. A bike that swings both ways. More versatile. To me thats the great thing about 650b, it can allow a bike to work well in more conditions, for more riders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTR-33 View Post
    What is the point you're attempting to make? That if you bottom out a Fox, under some circumstance that there is a possibility that the tire can contact the crown?

    Yeah it could, what does that have to do with the fork having 80mm of travel or 150mm of travel?
    Are you naturally this stupid or do you have to practice daily?

    Your assertion is that all Fox fork "work" because most of them don't make use of their full travel makes no sense.
    Not all work... that's the point. If a fox fork / 650B tire combo clears on a fork that isn't achieving full travel 99% of the time, but then suddenlly does get past whatever has been limiting its stroke, and brings the top of the tire into contact with the bottom of the crown, then its say hello to experiencing an unexpected endo.

    There is no question whether or not a Fox will work. All of the forks are manufactured the same and will utilize their travel the same within a small degree of variance. The point is that within this small degree of variance, what tire and rim you are using is going to matter much more than which Fox fork you are using.
    And fox...for years longer than we've been doing these 650B conversions, has been listing a maximum safe tire diameter in the manuals of their forks. And guess what... that diameter is a lot less 27.5 inches. On the 32 series it is in fact a maximum of 27" diameter, and the 36/40 series its 27.3 inches.

    I have an NOS F80X, and with all its air removed, and a brand new NeoMoto 2.35 on a brand new wheel built with a perfectly round Weinmann Discovery rim (at 27mm outside width)....and fully compressed... the tire buzzes the underside of the crown. Another millimeter of movement or say, a high spot in the wheel and the buzzing becomes stopping the wheel dead. And that fork btw actually went 1mm past its full rated travel (which is strange given my experiences with fox forks not reaching full travel). If it had gone for some reason 2mm past... well there's that 1mm of movement that the tire didn't have to spare under the crown.

    Any tire/wheel combinations beyond the safe limits of the fork, means people using fox forks are taking a chance with their life every time they use one for a conversion, unless they're using some sort of travel limiter stop inside the fork to prevent it from ever reaching full travel or are relying on tires like the quasi-moto which are smaller diameter than ones like the Nevegal and NeoMoto 2.35. This btw is exactly what X-Fusion says to do with their Enix/Velvet/Velour model forks, which have the brace clearance for any current 650B tires. To use them with a 650B wheel, you install a spacer that restricts the maximum travel by 10mm.

    Shiggy's tire site has tallest tread diameters in the specs for all the 650B tires he's tested and assuming he uses the same wheels for testing the sizes a given type of tire, you can see there's a clear spread for what's available from the 704mm diameter of a NeoMoto 2.35 (27.71" diameter) to the 698mm diameter (27.48") of a Racing Ralph 2.25 (as is seen in that white fox fork picture above). Now 4mm difference in tire radius is a big difference when you're using the tire in a fork that calls for a maximum diameter of 686mm. The Quasi Moto according to shiggy has a tallest tread diameter of 688mm which is only 2mm away from Fox's maximum recommended size. I feel fine with that close a margin of error and use them in my Talas 140 as a result. But I would not have used my NeoMoto 2.35 in the Talas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by James Lee View Post
    I didnt measure the bottom bracket height as I assumed most of the bottom bracket heights are measured sagged and I didnt have someone handy to help me measure. I can tell you that the bottom bracket is about 3/4" or so higher than with 26" wheels.

    I sure hope that DT doesnt go and lower the bottom bracket of the 5 spot for at least 5 years, otherwise I'll have a really hard time not buying a new one. Seriously,even with the screaming deals on 5 sot frames lately, it's still a very expensive toy.

    Wouldnt it be great if manufacturers made a bike that has a low bottom bracket with 26" wheels, and a slightly high bottom bracket with 650b. A bike that swings both ways. More versatile. To me thats the great thing about 650b, it can allow a bike to work well in more conditions, for more riders.

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    Most bike mfg measure BB height unsagged. Some good candidates for 650b conversion are xc bikes with low BBs to begin with like the Cannondale Rush. The one that really intriuges me is the new Santa Cruz TRC and 650B wheels fit!

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    So I haven't looked through the entire thread, so I apologize if it's already been posted.

    There's NO room for a 650b wheel to fit in a 2011 Trek Top Fuel 9.9 frame, I tried a Quasi-Moto on a Blunt SL rim and it wouldn't even get close.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeeEight View Post
    ...blah...
    Now, I understand your point of "technically you can only do this"; however, this is real life. It's only rated for x! You can't do that! It could fail! As if mountain biking isn't inherently dangerous. I wonder if the Gary Fisher's clunker bikes were rated and approved for mountain biking?

    I never said anything to the effect that there is zero risk in riding a Fox with 650B. What I did say is that there is no evidence of a Fox fork not working; thus, additional photo evidence is not required to illustrate the possibility of it working. Especially if that evidence holds little value for the next guy/gal because Fox forks are not consistent in manufacturing quality. So my point is your results may vary but there is no rider evidence of it not working. I have a Nevegal 2.1 and 2.35 mounted to a Fox F32 RL on a MTX33 rim and never have had a problem and will no air the 2.35 didn't rub at all.

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    Yes...because apparently my doing 650B longer than most in this forum, and having tried lots of different forks and tires and frames to find what fits and what doesn't, and regularly riding with 650Bs in forks that were only designed for 26" wheels, doesn't apparently count as rider evidence of it not working.

    I just provided the f'ing evidence you moron (which you of course conveniently didn't quote back in your response) so once again for the learning impaired.

    Perfectly radial true wheel built with a Weinmann Discovery 27mm width rim + Neo Moto 2.35 tire + Fox F80X Terralogic fork fully compressed = continuous tire buzzing of tread to underside of crown.

    Anything larger would be stopped dead, and according to the numbers, the Nevegal 2.35 is 2mm taller in knob/casing height than the NeoMoto 2.35.
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    I just provided the f'ing evidence you moron (which you of course conveniently didn't quote back in your response) so once again for the learning impaired.
    Pictures are evidence. Your word is means nothing.

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    Waterat,
    I really wanted a SC blur TRC but I couldnt pass up the deal on the Turner. I was looking for something with slack head angle and a steep seat tube,not a typical XC bike or trail bike geometry. The trails I ride really dont need 5.5" of travel, so the TRC seemed perfect, except for the price. I couldnt get my head around the price of a TRC, which would have been a grand more than the Turner. I also was guessing that there wouldnt be any really good deals on the TRC for awhile since it came out mid-season and seems to be the flavor of the week. I also considered the Banshee Spitfire but read about too many problems with the pivots. I'm sure the Turner will work well for many years.

    Got my first ride on the Turner (using 26" wheels) and it just ate up rough trail and I havent even spent time with suspension settings. Did the Lake Clementine loop near Auburn, which has lots of braking bumps, ruts and some nice rock gardens. Quite a step up from the Haro sonix I previously had, which had a steep head angle, and very short chainstays, which made it a very nervous bike, really only at home on rolling single track.

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    Hi. 14 pages is a bit much to filter through. Can someone give me a list of cross country full squishy frames with 3 to 4 inches of travel that can handle a 650b? I already have a Fox fork just looking for a race-able frame. Thanks in advance.

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    Anyone know about the Scott spark for 2011/12?

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    There was a Scott Spark 30 carbon complete 650B bike that sold on ebay over a month ago. My brother has converted a late model santa cruz superlight to 650b. Both frames may meet your needs. That's my extent of knowledge. Good luck on the list.
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    Scott Spark, Specialized Epic,Santa Cruz Blur XC all carbon wunderbikes that will definitely fufill your needs for a raceable frame. 2012 frames may have some changes but these have all fit in the past.

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    A Giant Reign x came into the shop yesterday an I noticed how much clearance the fork AND the rear tri had. Luckily I had a set of 650B wheels in the car. The Giant Reign fit the Kenda Nevegal 2.10, just barely. Enough clearance that I wouldn't think twice to ride it. The stock fork is a Manitou Splice and it fit the Racing Ralph 2.25 without issue as well. Stock, this bike accepted 650B front and rear. The rear wheel I had was a single speed so I didn't get to ride the bike. Also, I'm not sure of the year of the Reign. I'm still trying to figure it out. Personally, I didn't sell Giant when this bike was originally sold.

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    Conversion requirements?

    Hey guys...
    What is the best way to pre-measure my frame to get an idea if it can be converted to 650b? I thought I read on a post that as long as there is 3/4 inch clearance between the current 26 inch wheel with tire then should be good to go. Is this correct?
    I see on the list of bikes that have been proven to work are the 2010 Dakar and Parker from Jamis. I have a 2005 dakar xlt. There is a just a smidgen over 3/4 of inch clearance at the narrowest point with a 2.2 continental mountain king on it now. Any thoughts?

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    Hi guys. I appreciate the info and links to the compatiable frames. I see Dakar is listed or has been mentioned so here is my question. Can anyone confirm that the Dakar XCR carbon and aluminum frames will work? If so, what year models?

    Thanks in advance.

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    did anyone checked 650b for a cannondale rize oder rzOne20 ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rzOne20 View Post
    did anyone checked 650b for a cannondale rize oder rzOne20 ?
    I was curious myself since I own the Prophet (full 650B). While I didn't try it, from a close eyeballing at the shop I would say no way it would fit back there. To bad as you can build up one of those dam light.
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    how much free space should be measured so that it still works with the same tire width (2,25"). I think it should remain a small open space so that it keeps rolling in mud. but how much?

    otherwise I can try it even with my caffeine. do you know whether there is enough free space (in front with fatty) ?

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    Scott Spark, Specialized Epic,Santa Cruz Blur XC all carbon wunderbikes that will definitely fufill your needs for a raceable frame. 2012 frames may have some changes but these have all fit in the past.
    Hi Water Rat

    Can I make a Epic 26er 2012 full 650b
    What are good tyers for those wheels?

    In Europe this is very very rare.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harpwood View Post
    Hi Water Rat

    Can I make a Epic 26er 2012 full 650b
    What are good tyers for those wheels?

    In Europe this is very very rare.

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    I just got back from a local shop. Looked at a 2011 Reign - damn those are nice bikes. Must remember to bring rear wheel with me to test for fit as it looks like there is room. Need to confirm - work to do!

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    Will this 650b notubes flow rim/wheelset with RaRa rear and Nev 2.35 front fit 2012 Santa Cruz Nickel.

    Front: 130mm Fox Float 32
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tjay View Post
    Will this 650b notubes flow rim/wheelset with RaRa rear and Nev 2.35 front fit 2012 Santa Cruz Nickel.

    Front: 130mm Fox Float 32
    Rear: 125mm travel

    Thanks!

    I would say there would be plenty of room on a Nickel - yep!

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    My 98' Heckler with 650B Wheels. I had to remove the brace on the rear but I'm making a new one with proper clearance. Haven't given it a proper ride yet. Maybe the day after Christmas. I'll get better pics soon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattytruth View Post


    My 98' Heckler with 650B Wheels. I had to remove the brace on the rear but I'm making a new one with proper clearance. Haven't given it a proper ride yet. Maybe the day after Christmas.
    you forgot to attach the pic methinks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMcG View Post
    you forgot to attach the pic methinks.
    Fixed!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattytruth View Post
    Fixed!

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    GT Force 650b

    I have not read the entire thread, but i did not see it in the official list so i figured id post, I have a GT Force with a Nixon fork, kenda nevgal 650b 2.35 front, 650b 2.1 rear. The rear is close, very close, ( 2.35 would not fit the rear, It was in full contact when i tried and the wheel would not even spin).

    Took it for its first ride yesterday and it seems to be the perfect "in between" tire size as many here have described. rolled over stuff much like a 29er but turned faster like a 26er. I did not experience any rub on the fork or frame.

    If anyone is interested i can post some pics....
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    Quote Originally Posted by nick d View Post
    I have not read the entire thread, but i did not see it in the official list so i figured id post, I have a GT Force with a Nixon fork, kenda nevgal 650b 2.35 front, 650b 2.1 rear. The rear is close, very close, ( 2.35 would not fit the rear, It was in full contact when i tried and the wheel would not even spin).

    Took it for its first ride yesterday and it seems to be the perfect "in between" tire size as many here have described. rolled over stuff much like a 29er but turned faster like a 26er. I did not experience any rub on the fork or frame.

    If anyone is interested i can post some pics....
    Yes, please post the pics. I have been hoping this bike would fit the wheels. I suspect GT could easily make all their i-Drive designs 650b compatible with little effort. Maybe in 2013?

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    2008 GT Force 2.0 with 2.35 nevgal in the front(Nixon Fork) and 2.1 nevgal in the rear (pictured) This is a bikepedia link to the stock bike: BikePedia - 2008 GT Force 2.0 Complete Bicycle

    As close as it is, it did not rub once during the course of a twisty technical ride.

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    Yes, please post the pics. I have been hoping this bike would fit the wheels. I suspect GT could easily make all their i-Drive designs 650b compatible with little effort. Maybe in 2013?
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    Will it work on the rear of a 2007 Specialized Enduro SL Pro?

    Hi Folks,

    Has anyone physically tried to put a 650b wheel w/a Pacenti Cycles Neo-Moto 2.3 Tire on the rear of a 2007 Specialized Enduro SL Pro? I already have a 650b wheel with that tire on the front of the bike and love it. I tried searching the forums but couldn’t come up with an answer.

    Thanks, in advance, for whatever help anyone with actual experience can offer!

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    Did the SL Pro and Elite have the same rear end? Because the 2007 Enduro Elite fint the 2.3 Neo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cracked Headtube View Post
    Did the SL Pro and Elite have the same rear end? Because the 2007 Enduro Elite fint the 2.3 Neo
    Hi Mr. Headtube,

    According to Specialized the 2007 Enduro SL Pro and the 2007 Enduro Elite are two entirely different frames.

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    I was able to find the information already posted on the 2007 Enduro Elite. However, the devil in that detail didn't tell me if a 650b rear wheel would fit a 2007 Enduro SL Pro.

    Thanks for sharing the info!

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    Anyone fit 650b's on a 2011 Carbon Stumpjumper FSR?

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    Another Flux

    Well, in anticipation of receiving my BSide frame and new Fox fork, I got my tires mounted up just to verify the clearance on the Fox that I have on my Turner. Oh well, what the hell. Lets see if the rear will go in there. Just then I remembered that about 2 years ago, my chainstay started to crack. Turner replaced it, but they were out of Flux stays. I got something else ... something "beefier". I assumed it was a 5Spot component. Well, low and behold, it fits! Lots (relatively) of space at the chainstay and about 1/4 inch of clearance at the seat stay, which is the stock 2007 unit.
    I'm thinking that these wheels may be pulling double duty!

    For the record, those are obviously Ralphs on Blunt SL rims.





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    Quote Originally Posted by los36 View Post
    Well, in anticipation of receiving my BSide frame and new Fox fork, I got my tires mounted up just to verify the clearance on the Fox that I have on my Turner. Oh well, what the hell. Lets see if the rear will go in there. Just then I remembered that about 2 years ago, my chainstay started to crack. Turner replaced it, but they were out of Flux stays. I got something else ... something "beefier". I assumed it was a 5Spot component. Well, low and behold, it fits! Lots (relatively) of space at the chainstay and about 1/4 inch of clearance at the seat stay, which is the stock 2007 unit.
    I'm thinking that these wheels may be pulling double duty!

    For the record, those are obviously Ralphs on Blunt SL rims.





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    Jamis xlt...a no go unless you modify seat stay brace

    So...clearly this would void any warranty hopes, but got frame on eBay so no worries there I ghetto'd up my 650b rims with some 2.0 quasi mottos. Fits my fork no prob. Did not fit the xlt frame till I removed the seat stay brace. The brace is bolted on with 4 bolts. I hack sawed the top of the brace off, then bolted the brace higher on the seat stay using the remaining two bolt holes. Hopefully should maintain some integrity not advocating anyone try this at home yet

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    We the people ... 2003 Haro Escape 8.2

    The bike's a bit older than most posted here but what the heck. There's 3/16" clearance all around using a Quasi-Moto 2.0 and Pacenti TL28 wheelset. Looks a bit too tight IMO.
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    Good job! Litech magnesium

    1/4" clearance with Quasi-Moto 2.0 and Pacenti TL28 wheelset. Would have to ditch the rim brakes and fit a floater but this might be a fun conversion

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    Has anybody tried a 650b rear wheel for clearance on a devinci dexter. This is a nice looking
    bike with the Dave Weagle Split Link design.

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    SC Nomad Carbon.........no go.....

    Tried some true AM 650B tires, ie. 2.35" Kenda Nevegal's on Stans Crest's, unfortunately there is NO room....the tire buzzes the stay (in front of the tire) that ties the seat stay/chain stay together in the swing arm....

    Although there is ample room for this wide combo in a Blur TRc....

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    Thanks for info on Blur TRc

    That's great to hear the 650b Wheels fit front and rear on a Blur TRc. A friend just bought one. I'll let him try my wheels.
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    Last week tried to fit some 650b wheels in a Specialized Epic Comp 2011, yes it fits.
    Can't place pics, because I'm not allowed to do that. If someone want to put them this site, I can sent the pics.
    Just e-mail me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harpwood View Post
    Last week tried to fit some 650b wheels in a Specialized Epic Comp 2011, yes it fits.
    Can't place pics, because I'm not allowed to do that. If someone want to put them this site, I can sent the pics.
    Just e-mail me.
    Think I noticed that on the same bike. Does this bike just have a flat bar for the seat stay cross support vs. the usual tubular cross piece you tend to see? Makes all the difference and looked like you could easily put a 2.3" tire in there. Shocks with the brain are freaking tiny. 2011 Stumpjumper and Enduro didn't look promising to me with the tubular seat stay cross support. Maybe a small 650B tire. Trek Fuel EX's didn't look good but I think it was a Scratch Air would be no problem. Shop didn't have a Remedy but if the seat statys are closer to the Scratch Air than the Fuel EX maybe. I think it was posted that a Remedy would work but I needed to check for myself to be sure. Problem is it starts with a 13.9" BB height to begin with before any 650B wheels.
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    If there is room with the TRc, wonder if the Nickel has clearance? Anyone tried?

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    Cannondale Trail SL

    Finally got my wheels last week, Pacenti rims and Neo-Moto 2.1s tyres tubeless and fitted them into my sons training bike a Trail SL 3 size L. The rear fits with plenty of room for mud clearance or maybe a bigger tyre and the lefty up front is a Speed DLR 110 shortened to 100mm and has about 25mm clearance completely compressed so will also take a bigger tyre or be run at it's full 110mm with safety.
    By the way the rims look fantastic, well done Kirk.
    Also, tried the rear in a 2010 Stumpie FSR alu and it fitted with a few mm's to spare, if that helps anyone.
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    I can add two bikes.

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    650bpalace.com says the Blur TRc is compatible without any modifications, but one of the posters on here said that it needed a shim in the shock. Was the poster just using larger tires? I am very interested in building a TRc up 650b, sounds like a fun project and a great performing bike.

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    The TRC is an excellent choice for conversion. The bikes low Bottom Bracket is just what you want so it doesn't end up too high after going full 650B which raises apprx. 0.5-1 inch depending on your fork and tire choice. I have seen several on this forum and heard no complaints of clearance issues. Probably just playin' it safe with their uberexpensivecarbonwunderbike!

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    Bonking ... not feelin' well

    tried a 650b rear wheel on a Devinci Dexter, does not fit. The upper crossover support interferes with the tyre. Was really hoping that would have worked. back to the search for a light weight 4 inch with dw or vpp suspension.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtbmitch2 View Post
    tried a 650b rear wheel on a Devinci Dexter, does not fit. The upper crossover support interferes with the tyre. Was really hoping that would have worked. back to the search for a light weight 4 inch with dw or vpp suspension.
    SC Blur XC Carbon takes 650b pretty much brilliantly (might need a small shock shim). Doesn't that fit your needs for light, 4" and vpp? Granted, it's not exactly affordable...but it's tres' fast!

    See this post: http://forums.mtbr.com/650b-69er-new...ml#post7444101

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    good luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Waterat Pat View Post
    The TRC is an excellent choice for conversion. The bikes low Bottom Bracket is just what you want so it doesn't end up too high after going full 650B which raises apprx. 0.5-1 inch depending on your fork and tire choice. I have seen several on this forum and heard no complaints of clearance issues. Probably just playin' it safe with their uberexpensivecarbonwunderbike!
    Has anyone converted a Blur LT?

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    i searched when wondering if it would work but found no mention

    ventana pantera fits w/ more clearance than the already confirmed el chamuco .

    i know is an oldie but it is also a goodie

    4" 650b , yummy

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    I just saw a 11 Rocky Mountain Element with 650b wheels at a bike shop recently. Very surprised!

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    one more

    The Titus Switchblade pre 05 can get a new life out of the 650s' I sold mine to a friend who put a set on and it rocks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by motorbykemike View Post
    i searched when wondering if it would work but found no mention

    ventana pantera fits w/ more clearance than the already confirmed el chamuco .

    i know is an oldie but it is also a goodie

    4" 650b , yummy

    you've confirmed this? Cuz there's a nice one on a certain auction site right now.

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    yeah i saw that one , you don't want it , they are horrible bikes + it's really old , all your buddies will pick on you , the stars and stripes stickers from ventana look terrible on them .......................................... there was fire , i had a flat tire , a flood came through.......

    no 650b w/ a 2.1 folding nev definitley does not fit a pantera w/ 1/2 inch of clearance ;<{)

















    if you need a large i'll trade

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    Quote Originally Posted by motorbykemike View Post
    yeah i saw that one , you don't want it , they are horrible bikes + it's really old , all your buddies will pick on you , the stars and stripes stickers from ventana look terrible on them .......................................... there was fire , i had a flat tire , a flood came through.......

    no 650b w/ a 2.1 folding nev definitley does not fit a pantera w/ 1/2 inch of clearance ;<{)

















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    YOu are safe - I'm not gonna bid on that puppy! Good luck!

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    this large one i have , the wife CAN ride but its a bit long for her to really get movin around on

    we shall see

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    Quote Originally Posted by motorbykemike View Post
    i searched when wondering if it would work but found no mention

    ventana pantera fits w/ more clearance than the already confirmed el chamuco .

    i know is an oldie but it is also a goodie

    4" 650b , yummy
    If someone is interested, I can take a picture of tire clearance on my 17" Pantera.

    motorbykemike, ¿horrible bike? I can't discuss it, but my old Pantera kicks a lot of modern bikes ass.

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    i was joking , the thing rocks !

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    Add the On One Whippet to the list!!

    See thread and pics in On One forum for more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aussieinswitzerland View Post
    Finally got my wheels last week, Pacenti rims and Neo-Moto 2.1s tyres tubeless and fitted them into my sons training bike a Trail SL 3 size L. The rear fits with plenty of room for mud clearance or maybe a bigger tyre and the lefty up front is a Speed DLR 110 shortened to 100mm and has about 25mm clearance completely compressed so will also take a bigger tyre or be run at it's full 110mm with safety.
    By the way the rims look fantastic, well done Kirk.
    Also, tried the rear in a 2010 Stumpie FSR alu and it fitted with a few mm's to spare, if that helps anyone.
    Cheers
    So your Cannondale Trail SL accepts a 650b tire on the back ? You say you got an L size, i have a M though, anyone knows if this is an issue ?
    Could being a smaller size interfere ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by danielsilva View Post
    So your Cannondale Trail SL accepts a 650b tire on the back ? You say you got an L size, i have a M though, anyone knows if this is an issue ?
    Could being a smaller size interfere ?
    Hey Daniel if we have a size M Trail SL in stock i can have a look next week some time and let you know, but i don't think it would be a problem.
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    Tried a Specialized 2011 Stumpy HT alu and a 2012 Rockhopper both size M (i think) and they both fitted a Pacenti rim with a Neo-Moto 2.1 no worries in the rear.
    I maybe getting older but i refuse to grow up!

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    Quote Originally Posted by aussieinswitzerland View Post
    Hey Daniel if we have a size M Trail SL in stock i can have a look next week some time and let you know, but i don't think it would be a problem.
    Cheers
    Hey,

    That would be awesome ! There isn't 650b stuff available around here so i need to order from germany or netherlands, it's a bit of an investment and as such every piece of confirmation i can get is welcome.

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    Fantastic 650b

    I have finally built up and ridden my Jamis 650b frame from 2010. It easily accepts all 650b tires and it rides fantastic. My last bike was a 26" Giant Trance X and the Jamis is more plush on the downhill but the suspension needs a full propedal setting for uphill to mimic the maestro suspension. I run a fox rp23 on the rear and it seems to really do the job. The 27.5 inch wheels really help the rollover by a factor of 2. I will report more once I have ridden it longer but the ride does not dissapoint. It is also great to have a new frame since I only have 1 bike and I ride often.Pic below...<a href="https://s1204.photobucket.com/albums/bb413/winsail53/?action=view&amp;current=JamisLongshotfrontsidesma ll.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="https://i1204.photobucket.com/albums/bb413/winsail53/JamisLongshotfrontsidesmall.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cracked Headtube View Post
    A Giant Reign x came into the shop yesterday an I noticed how much clearance the fork AND the rear tri had. Luckily I had a set of 650B wheels in the car. The Giant Reign fit the Kenda Nevegal 2.10, just barely. Enough clearance that I wouldn't think twice to ride it. The stock fork is a Manitou Splice and it fit the Racing Ralph 2.25 without issue as well. Stock, this bike accepted 650B front and rear. The rear wheel I had was a single speed so I didn't get to ride the bike. Also, I'm not sure of the year of the Reign. I'm still trying to figure it out. Personally, I didn't sell Giant when this bike was originally sold.
    do you know what year Reign X? I've seen the newest models 10-12 will fit 650B, wondering about the previous models? 07-09?

    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by winsail View Post
    I have finally built up and ridden my Jamis 650b frame from 2010. It easily accepts all 650b tires and it rides fantastic. My last bike was a 26" Giant Trance X and the Jamis is more plush on the downhill but the suspension needs a full propedal setting for uphill to mimic the maestro suspension. I run a fox rp23 on the rear and it seems to really do the job. The 27.5 inch wheels really help the rollover by a factor of 2. I will report more once I have ridden it longer but the ride does not dissapoint. It is also great to have a new frame since I only have 1 bike and I ride often.Pic below...<a href="https://s1204.photobucket.com/albums/bb413/winsail53/?action=view&amp;current=JamisLongshotfrontsidesma ll.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="https://i1204.photobucket.com/albums/bb413/winsail53/JamisLongshotfrontsidesmall.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>
    Nice bike Mike nothing like new stuff!

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    Jamis exile will-

    26" Exile singlespeed frame will go 650b like it was made for it, great bike btw

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    Quote Originally Posted by danielsilva View Post
    Hey,

    That would be awesome ! There isn't 650b stuff available around here so i need to order from germany or netherlands, it's a bit of an investment and as such every piece of confirmation i can get is welcome.
    Hey Daniel
    had a chance to try the rear wheel in a size M Trail SL and can confirm that a Neo-Moto 2.1 fits in with room to spare (mounted on a Pacenti rim) The side knobs have about 6mm space from the seat and chain stays and about 12mm to the seat tube. The derailluer would also have about 6mm space to the tyre as well, hope that helps you. I got my Pacenti rims and tyres from Jelle in the netherlands at singlespeed.nl can only buy no tubes rims here in switzerland.
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    Jelle is a very nice guy, he is one of only one to have parts 650b in my area. His shop is fast and very professional..I recommend it
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    Quote Originally Posted by aussieinswitzerland View Post
    Hey Daniel
    had a chance to try the rear wheel in a size M Trail SL and can confirm that a Neo-Moto 2.1 fits in with room to spare (mounted on a Pacenti rim) The side knobs have about 6mm space from the seat and chain stays and about 12mm to the seat tube. The derailluer would also have about 6mm space to the tyre as well, hope that helps you. I got my Pacenti rims and tyres from Jelle in the netherlands at singlespeed.nl can only buy no tubes rims here in switzerland.
    Cheers
    That's bloody awesome news, any time you come to Portugal give me a ring and i'll buy you a beer
    I'll also gonna buy at singlespeed.nl as i have very good feedback about them, i'm going to try a pair of ZTR Crest's paired with a RaRa 2.25 on the front and a Quasi-moto 2.0 on the back, it doesn't rain here since last year here so a high rolling tire is best suited to where i ride ( mostly small rocks and hardpack ).

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    It is a well established fact that On one 456 Carbon has ample space for 650b tires + mud, but let me still post a pair of pictures showing chain stay and seat stay clearance with NeoMoto 2.3 (on a narrow rim).




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    Quote Originally Posted by StiHacka View Post
    It is a well established fact that On one 456 Carbon has ample space for 650b tires + mud, but let me still post a pair of pictures showing chain stay and seat stay clearance with NeoMoto 2.3 (on a narrow rim).
    Awesome
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    Titus Switchblade '03 Large

    '03 bought '04
    Last year of 27.2mm seat post and first with Fox Float R with Propel.
    Velocity Blounts with Kenda Nev 2.1 rear and 2.35 on front Fox FX100 Terralogic fork fit with no issues.
    Probably couldn't get the 2.35 on the rear.
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    Hey All,

    Thanks for all the insist into the 650b wheel world. I am looking to join that world soon, hopefully. I am thinking of build up some Stans ZTR Crest 650b rims with Schwalbe Racing Ralph tire to put on my 2011 Cannondale Scalpel 1. I know the 650b wheel will work with the lefty but does anyone know if a 650b will fit on the rear? Thanks in advance!

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    Anyone tried the Jamis Dakota elite?

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    not quite a 26er that fits 650b

    the haro beasley 650b frame will fit massive 26" rubber and 29er stuff too ,i had conti mtn king 2.2's on , don't think anything bigger would be a good idea out back but the front fork had tons of room .

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    Rocky Element RSL

    Will clear 650b.
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    I am selling my white Velocity Blunt SL's . These are the PRO build with 32 spokes in the rear instead of 28 and less than 1600g. I will include some Kenda Nevegals and they are currently have Stans in them. Ridden about 8 times.Asking $650 plus shipping. PM me if you are interested.

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    Sorry, those Blunt SL's are 650B's....

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    You need to add the Bianchi SASS to this list. It works great.
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    Hi, I have a 2001 Jamis Dakota XC steel 26" frame and a Marzocchi MX Pro w/ ETA 120mm fork laying around. Can anybody tell me if it's possible to build these up into a 650b'er? Thanks!

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    I am working on the list again, but this time I am building a Google Doc spreadsheet. Approved folks will be able to add to the list, and it will be much easier to update and to find bikes, kthnxbye.

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    Needs a bit of grinding of the chainstay brace. Quasi-moto's on TL28-650b rims will rub otherwise. I'm sure my warrantee's been voided but the frame looks pretty stout so no worries


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    Does 650b fit in a Cannondale Rush

    I am considering to move over to 27,5"wheels on my Cannondale Rush with a lefty.
    So the frontwheel won't be the problem.
    But will the rearwheel fit into the frame, or do you have to adjust it a bit?

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    I have a Soul Cycle Hooligan G1 bike (1st Generation), planning to convert it to 27.5 wheels and looking for inputs if this is possible and what will I need to covert it aside from buying new rims and tires. Thanks a lot!

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    Quote Originally Posted by elwi View Post
    I am considering to move over to 27,5"wheels on my Cannondale Rush with a lefty.
    So the frontwheel won't be the problem.
    But will the rearwheel fit into the frame, or do you have to adjust it a bit?
    Yeh there's a few converted. not sure whether they are alloy or carbon and what year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elinat View Post
    Hi, I have a 2001 Jamis Dakota XC steel 26" frame and a Marzocchi MX Pro w/ ETA 120mm fork laying around. Can anybody tell me if it's possible to build these up into a 650b'er? Thanks!
    I saw a post in another forum of a nice Surly 1x1 650b conversion with a 120mm Marzocchi fork fitting a Neo-moto. The same fork as mine! Now we're talkin'! I just need to find an lbs with a 650b wheel to try on my frame. If it fits then I will have a project bike this springtime!

    Sorry I can't post the link of that Surly, not enough posts yet.

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    2009 Novara Ponderosa has mucho room

    Found a 2009 Ponderosa frame at a swap meet today, and noticed it has tons of seat stay and chain stay clearance. With 26" wheels, I've no doubt that a 2.5" tire will fit in back. So for $60 with headset, I brought it home.

    I found REI's 2009 catalog archived online:
    http://www.rei.com/pdf/novara/novaracatalog_09.pdf
    It's a "standard" 71/73 angled frame with 17" chain stays - not the hottest geo these days. I put the spec'ed 100mm fork up front and measured the BB drop with a plum bob, & came up with 33mm. I think that means an static 11.8" BB height. Pretty low if you're riding 26" wheels I suppose; perhaps just right for XC use if you're running 650b wheels, no?

    And it's fairly light: Med/17" frame with steel headset cups & a seat clamp is 4.1lbs.

    Sweetness: The tire pictured below is a monster 27.5x2.35 Nevegal, the largest currently available tire for 650b (yeah, I know Kirk has a DH tire in the works, but it's not out yet, and this ain't a DH bike.) The closest point is at the seat stays, which has ~7mm clearance on each side; It's like it was made for these tires.

    Not so sweet: It's too small for me (just like the 2005 19" Rockhopper that also fits the biggins), so I don't expect I'll be keeping it long.
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    2011 Cannondale Trail SL



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    Both Quasi-Motos and RaRa 2.25 fit perfectly with room to spare, no doubt the quasi-moto will fit too.
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    hi there
    not sure if this is the right place to post this but here it goes - I have a klein palomino and would like to change the fork out for a 29 reba with 650b wheel - I have not been able to find information regarding the crown to axle length on my current fork ( oem duke) or the intended one (reba) to get some idea how much it will change geometry
    any thoughts would be appreciated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pete003 View Post
    hi there
    not sure if this is the right place to post this but here it goes - I have a klein palomino and would like to change the fork out for a 29 reba with 650b wheel - I have not been able to find information regarding the crown to axle length on my current fork ( oem duke) or the intended one (reba) to get some idea how much it will change geometry
    any thoughts would be appreciated.
    pete
    *most* reba 29's have at least internally adjustable travel, so that's a variable....what travel reba you planning to use?

    regardless what reba it is, if it's meant for 29 it's going to be much longer than a more preferable fox or Xfusion fork, meaning: going with something besides a reba 29, for the same given axle-to-crown length you have more travel instead of wasted space.

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    was going to use the rlt set at 80mm have not looked into the fox or xfusion - are those 650b forks?
    thanks

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    Xfusion has a 650b fork, the fox is not officially supported, but 650b has been working in them for more than a few years now, just have a look around the forum, or use the search.

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    Titus Carbon FTM????

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    Quote Originally Posted by nyrdrms View Post
    Titus Carbon FTM????
    I highly doubt it would work in back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nyrdrms View Post
    Titus Carbon FTM????
    I really wanted this bike to fit and from the pics I figured it would. Titus said no. Catches on the chain stay somewhere and would hit the seat post without shimming. He told me the 2" stroke shock they use is already shimmed so a 26" tire doesn't hit the seat post. I thought that a bit odd. Still I would like to try a fit myself (if I come across one in my travels) to see what you have to give up. Easily built up under 25lbs according to Titus.
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    Liteville 301 and 601 large and XL (and possibly other sizes?) will clear at least 352 rad x 58 (2.3") (Pacenti Moto) with plenty of room and I believe they might even clear 356 rad x 61(2.4") (Pacenti Mega Moto). This clearance is for chain stays and seat stays. Seat tube clearance at full compression not tested but I think it should work.

    The Nicolai Helius CC will clear 352 rad x 58 (2.3") stays and has plenty of seat tube clearance at full compression.

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    09 Jamis Dakota Elite

    Remember seeing somewhere that Jamis Dakota Elite was a go, but can't find it now... Picked up this frame and doing a budget hardtail 650b build. The rear tire in pics is a Neomoto 2.1, mind you, not 2.35... Rim is a SunRingle Equalizer 27. Looks good!
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    Quote Originally Posted by montana_ben View Post
    Remember seeing somewhere that Jamis Dakota Elite was a go, but can't find it now... Picked up this frame and doing a budget hardtail 650b build. The rear tire in pics is a Neomoto 2.1, mind you, not 2.35... Rim is a SunRingle Equalizer 27. Looks good!
    Did you get that frame on ebay? It looks like the exact one that I was watching. Glad to see it works

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    Should I be taking all of the air out of the rear shock to test weather the rear tire strikes the set tube on full compression? Running without air in the shock is obviously not how it would be run in the real world but should give an indication of how close the tire is when bottomed out, correct??

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    Did you get that frame on ebay? It looks like the exact one that I was watching. Glad to see it works
    I did indeed...hope it works out well! Will try to post a pic on the appropriate thread when I get it put together... Will be an interesting change from the prophet hanging on the wall behind.

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    yes. also its something you'd want to know if you shoeck ever fails: what the hazard may be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skidad View Post
    I really wanted this bike to fit and from the pics I figured it would. Titus said no. Catches on the chain stay somewhere and would hit the seat post without shimming. He told me the 2" stroke shock they use is already shimmed so a 26" tire doesn't hit the seat post. I thought that a bit odd. Still I would like to try a fit myself (if I come across one in my travels) to see what you have to give up. Easily built up under 25lbs according to Titus.
    If the 650b will fit the rear, my plan was to reduce eye to eye and stroke to eliminate seatpost interf. keeping full travel to 4". I would use a 100mm fox. Rough estimates would put the frame near race geometry. Anyone know if carbon repair companies can cut and lengthen chainstays / seat stays yet keep the strength needed?

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    Hi, can any1 confirm that my 2009 Lynskey ridge line LT frame can fit ZTR crest or 355 650b with Neo Moto 2.0?

    If yes, wats d max tires size/ brand I can go?

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    has anyone tried 650 into Cannondale Scalpel size small?

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    Hi,

    According to Specialized the 2007 Enduro SL Pro and the 2007 Enduro Elite are two entirely different frames.


    I was able to find the information already posted on the 2007 Enduro Elite. However, the devil in that detail didn't tell me if a 650b rear wheel would fit a 2007 Enduro SL Pro.

    Thanks for sharing the info!

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    I am trying this on my Specialized this weekend, it looks tight, but I am going this way if I can squeezze er in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Top_Cat View Post
    I am trying this on my Specialized this weekend, it looks tight, but I am going this way if I can squeezze er in.
    Could you take a photo with 650b wheels?

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    Quick question...has anybody try to fit a 650b on a Chinese 26" Carbon frame? Those sold on eBay, or Gotobike, LT Bikes?
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    I know some Salsa Ala Carte's can do 650B (like shiggy's brown one on the first page of this thread), but I'm wondering if mine will. I've got an '06 I think, it's orange. I'm pretty sure the frame didn't change at all until the alternator version came out, so it ought to work, but can anyone confirm?
    Thanks.

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    650b

    Anyone knows why the name of 650b and not 27.5?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moisdet View Post
    Anyone knows why the name of 650b and not 27.5?
    probably same reason 29er isn't called 700c

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    Another BLT2 650b

    I think there's a few of these out there now and given how cheap used alloy BLT2 frames can be, it's definitely a good choice.
    Modified the rear shock with the addition of an inner sleeve to give more end stroke compression (see the 5Spot thread about this - very easy modification and worth it for a heavier rider) and using an X-Fusion Vengence upfront. I've been running this setup for a while now and never had an issue with clearance.
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    Anyone converted a 2011 rocky mountain altitude? Rock shox sektor rl fork

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    what about a 2008 alloy yeti asr?

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    Does anybody have pics of a Cdale Prophet rear clearance? what tires fit....

    and where is the best price on rims... i want a 650b set!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by broomhandle View Post
    Does anybody have pics of a Cdale Prophet rear clearance? what tires fit....

    and where is the best price on rims... i want a 650b set!!!
    Running my Prophet full 650B with Neo Moto 2.3 tire F/B and no clearance issues at all. Other than a tall 14.25" BB height the bike was made for it.

    I bought my Flow rims from Bikeman in ME for I think $90 each on special order. They have the new Pacenti rims in stock I see

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    Quote Originally Posted by skidad View Post
    Running my Prophet full 650B with Neo Moto 2.3 tire F/B and no clearance issues at all. Other than a tall 14.25" BB height the bike was made for it.

    I bought my Flow rims from Bikeman in ME for I think $90 each on special order. They have the new Pacenti rims in stock I see

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    what about climbing issues? i swear that bike can not climb for crap. does the 650b help it? or make it worse?

    im assuming it prob bombs down better with the bigger tire right? that bike already bombs down.....

    im also running a '07 talas up front, i think it should clear it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by broomhandle View Post
    what about climbing issues? i swear that bike can not climb for crap. does the 650b help it? or make it worse?

    im assuming it prob bombs down better with the bigger tire right? that bike already bombs down.....

    im also running a '07 talas up front, i think it should clear it...
    Ha ha, funny you should ask about the climbing with the Prophet. Here is a link to that very question I asked in the AM forum. 8 pages long with plenty of flame throwing. FWIW I have had issues climbing with it but have come to terms and what I have to do. I thought it was me but it's not and I believe the 650B wheels do help. Also FWIW I've bought a new Jamis Dakar 650 B2 that I hope will climb more like the Specialized test bike I rode that made me feel like a hero. Prophet may be returned to 26" wheels for a jumping/rock trials/beat on training bike. I have the 08 Talas and no issues with clearance.

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    i think its just the bike is not a climber. its a "all mountain" for downhill only....

    i wish i could test a set of rims 1st before buying.... :0

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    Quote Originally Posted by broomhandle View Post
    i think its just the bike is not a climber. its a "all mountain" for downhill only....

    i wish i could test a set of rims 1st before buying.... :0
    Probably average, some are better and some worse. What is it that has you feeling this way? What setting do you have the rear shock in also, XC or FR? With a 75 degree STA in the XC shock position it should put you in a good position for climbing theoretically. I find the bike is very sensitive to front to back weight shifts, responds to body english, smooth pedaling if possible so it doesn't spin out and correct gear choice. I run a 75mm stem with 711mm bars on my size large. Bar ends about even or just a tad lower than saddle height (Rasse dropper post also). 650B wheels make the bike better for sure, especially the front if you want to only do that.

    Prophet was developed in New England rocky conditions (where I happen to live) and still works very well except for technical climbing IMO. 29" wheels and better frame and suspension designs have made that part allot easier. That Spec. 29'r I rode for 3 days was like cheating on most climbs and made me feel much better about my ability. Just have to work harder on the Prophet but it makes you a better rider.
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    I have a few super V's, much better climber i have also had a 1st gen jekyll. same. the prophet i have had since 07. im on the other ocean. Mt Tam is a killer on the bike. but its worth the down....

    i just feel its so much more work to climb than other bikes...

    and, its in XC for the shock.

    i have ridden 29ers that i love and some i hate. 650b seams like a good in between. i have not ridden yet... it just seams like my prophet is a good candi for it. and its no biggie just rims.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by danielsilva View Post
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    Both Quasi-Motos and RaRa 2.25 fit perfectly with room to spare, no doubt the quasi-moto will fit too.
    That sure is a nice looking bike! Ride report?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sandyeggo View Post
    That sure is a nice looking bike! Ride report?
    Hard and fast. I have a squishy Rush ( also 650b ) and i still grab this one on most trails, i only prefer the Rush if the trail is REALLY hard and just way too much for a low travel HT.

    It's really stiff and while very harsh on your back, the thing just rolls with the 650b wheels. BEST. UPGRADE. EVER.

    It's not the lighest thing in the world at 22,4 lbs ( with the upgraded brakes ) but it was never built to be a WW bike.

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    650B conversion

    I'm planning to make my GT Force carbon into 650B.
    wheels fit in the frame just fine with pacenti 2.3 tires. I have been doing
    a lot of research and 650B just sounds like the better wheel size for
    a full suspension. Another mechanic in town claims it will make the bike
    ride very sluggish I don't think he knows what he's talking about... Does anybody have any input?

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    I've got a 2012 Scott Spark 40 (Rock Shock Reba fork). Does anyone know if it is compatible with 650B?. Would love to upgrade it!

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    Old Jamis Eureka

    Just performed CPR on this old girl. I gotta say, the 650b totally changes this bike. The Sun fork is nothing special but options are limited for 1" steering tubes so I took what I could get (without going broke). Overall a nice option for a bike ready for a yard sale.

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    Quote Originally Posted by danielsilva View Post
    Hard and fast. I have a squishy Rush ( also 650b ) and i still grab this one on most trails, i only prefer the Rush if the trail is REALLY hard and just way too much for a low travel HT.

    It's really stiff and while very harsh on your back, the thing just rolls with the 650b wheels. BEST. UPGRADE. EVER.

    It's not the lighest thing in the world at 22,4 lbs ( with the upgraded brakes ) but it was never built to be a WW bike.
    You may not consider it light, but its lighter than my Flash Alloy converted to a SS. I bet it rides better, too.

    I used to own a Rush. I've actually been thinking of picking one up and doing a 650b conversion to it. I've been loving the hardtail SS thing, but it'd be nice to have a 650b fully in the stable, too!
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    Quote Originally Posted by sandyeggo View Post
    You may not consider it light, but its lighter than my Flash Alloy converted to a SS. I bet it rides better, too.

    I used to own a Rush. I've actually been thinking of picking one up and doing a 650b conversion to it. I've been loving the hardtail SS thing, but it'd be nice to have a 650b fully in the stable, too!
    Yeah i'm also building a SS with an old steel frame that i found, never ridden in 10 years so it's mint. Too bad the thing isn't able to take some 650b wheels

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    Teigansdad -
    I'm figuring by your pictures that your Marzocchi Bomber did NOT work with the 650B...? (thus you traded it out for the Sun fork?) I have a 2004 Marzocchi Bomber Marathon S and it looks very tight based on my calculations. But the rest of my '01 Jamis Komodo Team frame looks as if it could work out fantastically.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blits View Post
    I've got a 2012 Scott Spark 40 (Rock Shock Reba fork). Does anyone know if it is compatible with 650B?. Would love to upgrade it!
    I know the spark works with the Fox fork, not sure with the Reba. One of my friends has a Spark converted to 650 and he is still raving about it over 12mths later

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    Thanx Energiser!

    I'm so exited! Just found out where to buy 650B wheels in S.A.!!!! Can't wait!

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    Tomac Supermatic 120

    Anyone know if this frame can run 650B?

    thx

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    Quote Originally Posted by Throttlemire View Post
    Anyone know if this frame can run 650B?

    thx
    I'm gonna guess not. I tried it on the 140 Snyper and it was a no go. I really wanted the Snyper and the frame price is totally reasonable but it had to fit 650B front and back or I wasn't gonna buy one...so I didn't.

    I know Tomac has played around with 650B a bunch and his development partner has ties to X-Fusion (650B forks) so I'm hoping a 650B bike is in development. I had a number of email exchanges with him about the Snyper and I strongly urged them to build a full 650B bike.....and update their web site with up to date pics and more pics of complete bikes. Contact them and do the same and see what they say. Can't hurt.
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    Thanks. I just got an email from Tomac Bikes, 650B will NOT fit on the Supermatic 120. Damn shame as one is for sale on Ebay that would be a great build!

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    Giant Anthem X ?

    Hey.

    Does anyone know if a Giant Anthem X frame (alu from 2010) can fit a 650b wheel?


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    HI,

    Does any know if the Titus X Carbon can fir a rear 650b wheel?

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    I just tried my 6fiddyB rear on a 2009 commencal Meta 6 , no go.......
    my slightly weared 2.3 neo moto rubs the arc, it can still spin however......may be a smaller tire will fit.

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    Hi!

    Does anyone know if the Trek Elite 9.9 frame is compatible with 650b. I measured the frame clearance on the rear, and I figure if it fits it will be very tight, but can only be sure by trying...

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    Specialized (2009 carbon) Stumpjumper Hardtail

    Anyone tried a 650B conversion on one of these? I've got 6 weeks till my wheels arrive & patience isn't one of my best traits!*

    *I believe the 90mm Rock Shox SID Race won't work so I think i'll replace with an 80mm Fox fork

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    Its too bad that there are no 650B cyclo cross tires. This bike would kill!

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    Searched the thread and didn't see any mention of it....anyone know if a 2010 Jamis Dakar XC would be 650b compatible? (w/ a rockshox tora fork).

    thanks.

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    Ventana El Terremoto: Lyrik 170 DH fork with Kenda Nevegal 2.35 DTC 650 B.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jrsbike View Post
    Its too bad that there are no 650B cyclo cross tires. This bike would kill!

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    That bike looks Burly! Great photos of the clearance.
    Where do you ride?

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