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    Karate Monkey alternative?

    Hi there.
    After my very, very old Orange Gringo finally died I am in the market for an adaptable hardtail. I really like the Surly Karate Monkey. It will be used for general thrashing about and maybe two week bikepacking/tours/trips but I really wanted something that isn't quite as heavy. I own a 2017 Troll and its a brilliant touring machine but as with all Surlys, its a tank. The KM fits all the requirements I need to be honest, loads of mounts, capable of running a 27.5 plus tyre, rigid or sus forks too, its just the WEIGHT......

    Does anyone have any suggestions? Im based in England too if that helps.

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    Buy the KM frame and build it how you want. Surly frame weights are pretty reasonable for the money. Can you get a nicer steel frame that weighs .5 lbs less? Yes, but not for equal money.

    If you want to save a significant amount of weight you'll need to look at a carbon frame and nicer build kit.

    You haven't given a budget or very many parameters, kind of asking us to name every B+ hardtail available.
    Rigid SS 29er
    SS 29+
    Fat Lefty
    SS cyclocross
    Full Sus 29er (Yuck)

    Stop asking how much it weighs and just go ride it.

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    I have around 600-800 to spend on the frame then another 1200 on components including a suspension fork. I always buy frame/forks only then build it up from there. If the KM really is the best for the price then thats the way I will go.
    Thanks

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    Esker hayduke?

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    Weight of KM frame vs another? Less than 1 pound? Go with a carbon fork? Going to carry 20-30 lbs on the tour? I would think the best choice would be a solid, sturdy bike. I own 4 Surlys, I might be biased.

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    For steel and price per pound and versatility the KM is hard to beat. I've given this a lot of thought myself. Would be nice if lighter but going lighter means a very different frame.

    To get much lighter you'd have to go carbon or aluminum. If I needed a lightweight HT I'd build up one of those cheap chi-carbon frame.


    Still though, the biggest plus of the KM are the dropouts - SS or geared. And 135, 142, or 148. I've still got a few old King wheel sets that refuse to die. And a 135 King SS hub/wheel. Perfect match for the Monkey.

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    Weight isn't something I really look at for how much I'm willing to spend, I look for reliable and features and the KM is definitely reliable and has loads of features. When I was looking to replace my '08 Monkey last year, I had wanted one of the new Ryhmes with orange Monkey's, but finding one was a PITA and so I opted for the Kona Unit framset and transferred most all the parts from my Monkey and have really been happy with it. Between the 2 framsets, don't think there's another you can pick up for $550-600. My only complaint about the Unit is the QR drop outs on the fork, but prefer the rear drop outs over the Surly setup.
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    Soma Valhallen?

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    sounds like your in the UK. Have you checked out any of the evans pinnacle offerings? i had a arkose frame shipped to the US and really like...

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