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    Ibis Mojo HD4 or Spot Rollik 607

    Ibis Mojo HD4 or Spot Rollik 607.

    Which one is better climber?

    Which one is better on descents?

    Which one rails corners better?

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    It doesn't matter what I ride as long as I ride it Rubber Side Down●~●.

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    Head angles and seat angles are quite different on both bikes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YogiKudo View Post
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    This. They are two very different bikes.

    The hd4 is a true Enduro bike... it is a beast going downhill and eats chunk for breakfast. IMO, it wasnít the quickest handling bike compared to others Iíve ridden, especially the HD3. It climbs well enough to get you to the top, but I wouldnít want to spend much more time than that pedaling it

    The Rollik climbs and pedals better than any 6Ē bike youíll ride. Iíve taken mine on several 25+ mile days with over 4K climbing. Itís smooth and plush on the DHs, but not quite on par with the HD4. The Rollik (to me) is a much more playful, snappy bike in tight spots too.

    This review I wrote a couple of months ago might have some more information that's of value to you:

    Closer Look: Spot Rollik 607 ‚Äď Chasing Epic Mountain Bike Adventures

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    Quote Originally Posted by smmokan View Post
    This. They are two very different bikes.

    The hd4 is a true Enduro bike... it is a beast going downhill and eats chunk for breakfast. IMO, it wasnít the quickest handling bike compared to others Iíve ridden, especially the HD3. It climbs well enough to get you to the top, but I wouldnít want to spend much more time than that pedaling it

    The Rollik climbs and pedals better than any 6Ē bike youíll ride. Iíve taken mine on several 25+ mile days with over 4K climbing. Itís smooth and plush on the DHs, but not quite on par with the HD4. The Rollik (to me) is a much more playful, snappy bike in tight spots too.

    This review I wrote a couple of months ago might have some more information that's of value to you:

    Closer Look: Spot Rollik 607 ‚Äď Chasing Epic Mountain Bike Adventures
    Have you compared the Rollik to a Pivot Mach 5.5?

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    Sorry, I havenít ridden any of Pivotís bikes.

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    Would be interesting to see how the Rollik compares to the The Calling.

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    Pivot and Calling are in the slack seat tube camp if that's your jam. I prefer steeper seat tubes as I transition from seated to standing pedalling often. J

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    You guys say Head Angles and Seat angles are quite different, and that Pivot and Evil Calling are in the Slack Seat Tube Camp.

    Here are the data per their respective websites:

    Mtn Bike_______Head Tube Angle___Seat Tube Angle

    Ibis HD4_______64.9_____________74
    Rollik 607______66.4_____________73.6
    Pivot Mach 5.5__66.5_____________73.7
    Evil Calling_____66.4_____________74.8

    To me it looks like the Head Tube of the Ibis HD4 is slacker than the others. The others are almost identical.

    But they all seem to have similar Seat Tube angles. The Rollik and Pivot are slightly slacker.

    Yes the Ibis stands out for its slacker Head Tube, but that's about it.......

    I'm not sure what kind of conclusions you can draw simply from these geometry parameters.

    They do tend to support the post that the Ibis leans more towards the enduro bike of the pack.
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    smmokan - You should definitely give Pivot's Mach 5.5 a try.

    I think more than a few of us would like to see how you compare it to the HD4 and the Rollik 607 that you have ridden.

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    effective SA on Rollik is 75.5, actual is 73.6

    others dont post actual and effective so guessing they are posting "effective"

    I'm not the engineer - i just ride a steep seat angle bike (steeper than these listed) and love it... it works for me - YMMV

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    kamper11

    You bring up a good point. A few manufacturers list an "Effective" Seat Tube angle, and an "Actual" Seat Tube angle.

    (Of course it's frustrating that they all don't list both.....)

    Anyway - What is the difference between the two measurements?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rockohaulic View Post
    smmokan - You should definitely give Pivot's Mach 5.5 a try.

    I think more than a few of us would like to see how you compare it to the HD4 and the Rollik 607 that you have ridden.
    If someone from Pivot wanted to send me the Mach 5.5, I would be more than happy to compare/contrast the bikes.

    (FWIW, I should be getting a loaner Canyon Spectral pretty soon, so I definitely plan on comparing it with the other bikes as well)

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    [QUOTE=smmokan;13745068]If someone from Pivot wanted to send me the Mach 5.5, I would be more than happy to compare/contrast the bikes.

    Where do you live?

    If you are in the Charlotte, NC area - I have a Pivot Mach 5.5 I could loan you.......

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    Iím in Eagle, CO... but if itís any consolation, I lived in uptown Charlotte for a few years a long time ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smmokan View Post
    Iím in Eagle, CO... but if itís any consolation, I lived in uptown Charlotte for a few years a long time ago.
    Cool - What are your top 5 trails to ride here in the Charlotte area?

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    To be honest, I have no idea.... I haven't lived there for 15 years and when I did, I was just out of college and was TOTALLY out of shape. I remember riding the stuff over by the WWC before it was all developed, plus Renaissance Park, Francis Beatty, and then some private trails out by Carolina Mills. Back then I could barely ride five miles at a time.

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    Hmmm, I wish I was in as good a shape as when I was young and just out of college!

    I've ridden Francis Beatty numerous times, Sherman Branch, Anne Springs Greenway, Lake Norman, and Uwharrie Keyauwee. Keyauwee is the closest thing to the trails I rode back in Southern California. Check out my review!

    My wife and I went on a hike a couple weekends ago on the Rocky River Trial. It was listed on the internet under hiking trails. Anyway - turns out it is a mtn biking trail known as "Steve's". So I have hiked Steve's! I'll have to go back with my bike.

    I hear good things about WWC (White Water Center), so I'll have to try that out. And I'm going to have to look up Carolina Mills. So thanks for mentioning that one!

    I hear there are some great trails on the west side of NC. They were mentioned recently in Mtn Bike Action magazine. I'll have to try those out too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rockohaulic View Post
    I have a Pivot Mach 5.5 I could loan you.......
    So, what's the deal with the 5.5? You not happy with something about it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by d365 View Post
    So, what's the deal with the 5.5? You not happy with something about it?
    Not at all. It's been a great bike. About a 1000% improvement from my old dinosaur.

    I'm just reading about some of these new bikes coming out, they seem to offer a lot, and I just want to learn as much about them as I can.

    smmokan has experience with two bikes that I feel are right up there with my Pivot Mach 5.5. However, he has not ridden the Pivot. I was hoping he lived closer so I could offer him a ride on my Pivot so he could share his thoughts and opinions.

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