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    Quote Originally Posted by vwsurfbum View Post
    From Saturdays race (I know the forks are the wrong colour, I have a set of pikes in black on the way)


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    Suh-weet!

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    Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by vwsurfbum View Post
    I bought it direct from ican bikes.
    I paid 600 pounds and that includes postage and custom paint.
    The shock size is up a couple of posts, I have forgotten the size (too much wine and chocolate)

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    Hi, Thanks for the info on the frame size. I'm in contact with Ican (through Alibaba) and they gave me a PayPal account of "[email protected],net". Did you use Paypal and if so, is this Paypal account correct?
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    That doesn't look right at all? The email addresses that I was using all had their name or info at icanbikes dot com, I would go directly to them so theres no confusion about the warranty.

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    This was from Asiancyclexpress.com
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    What site?

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    Quote Originally Posted by James1984 View Post
    Pretty newbish here, mostly a lurker, but I'd thought it would be worth it to share my experience with others here.

    Tried to get a bike from these guys. Here's what happen...

    I ordered an FM089 and rims on March 18th. I received an order conformation the following Monday from "Cherry". She said "Please check whether there is mistake on the invoice, if so, contact me immediately. After you confirm, we will handle the order for you immediately." I told her everything looks good. She replied saying, she would like to get it out as soon as possible and will provide a tracking number.

    It's March 28th and I get this email "Just checked and found that we had assemble the wheels for you and after quality test will send your package out. But for the bike frames, for the size of the 17" have been out of stock and would you please change to the 15.5"?". I asked if they had any other 17" frames in stock and she offered me a the cheapest frame on their site in 18 inch. At this point I just asked for a refund.

    This is it so far... We'll see what she say's tomorrow. I really feel like they pulled a bait and switch here. I would warn people to use caution if ordering from here and ask if there's stock before hand.
    Oops, was from asiancyclexpress.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by vwsurfbum View Post
    That doesn't look right at all? The email addresses that I was using all had their name or info at icanbikes dot com, I would go directly to them so theres no confusion about the warranty.

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    Hi,
    My contact at ICAN has the "icanbikes.com" address ([email protected]). My question is the PayPal account info where you send the money/payment ("[email protected]"). Did you send your payment through PayPal?

    BTW, great picture! What's the width size of the tires. Also, the Maxxis Minion tire would go well with your bike!
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    Apologies for the long delay,

    I just checked the pay pal address is correct.

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    Tyres are 2.3 WTB Vigilante front (soon to be replaced) 2.4 trail boss rear. The trail boss is too wide really for the rear so will be replaced with a 2.2 as i got a little tyre rub on sundays ride in the mud.

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    Miracle DH 075 Dh carbon frame

    Hello! someone has information about this frame? so why not because I find little information about it.

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    No problem! Thanks for responding, great news! Will the 2.3 tire fit for the rear or still too wide?
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    That would be fine, the 2.4 is tight and only rubbed in the mud.

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    Great!Thanks!

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    Opinions please:
    I'm looking at purchasing the FM336 27.5 19in frame, but running it with 26in wheels.

    I'll be compensating the geometry by:
    1: using a +15mm external lower cup headset
    2: using 170mm travel fork with a2c of 555mm (compared to 539mm quoted on the geo charts i've seen).
    3: using a 200x57 shock (just to up the travel to be more evenly matching the front).
    4: (optional) -1deg angled headset

    I've done some geometry adjustments based on the above, and would end up with:
    Headangle 66.5
    Seattube 72.5
    BB +7mm
    Reach 440mm
    Stack 606.7

    Might even resort to n offset shock bushing if needed.
    Is anyone on here running in 26in, and any better suggestions than the above?


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    Why not just get the correct sized wheels?

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    Quote Originally Posted by vwsurfbum View Post
    Why not just get the correct sized wheels?

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    Maybe later.
    But already invested in carbon 26in wheelset that I like n don't wanna spend that much at the mo.

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    Fair enough

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zachua View Post
    Is there any particular model full suspension 650 frame that is the "best"? Or one that is tried and true, everyone agrees is a good choice?

    Particularly for XC.
    I'd go w/ this one:
    CS-156 650B full suspension carbon bike frame 27.5er mtb - Xiamen Carbon Speed Sport Goods Co.,Ltd

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    I´m thinking in buying a hardtail chinese carbon 650b frame with this features.

    Tapered
    BB92 or BSA
    135x10mm and 142x12mm (or only 135x19mm)
    17"
    Internal routing for shifters cables, brakes housing internal or clasic

    Which is the best option?
    HongFu, Carbonal, Flixxy or other brand?

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    I've used fixxi and ican bikes, both gave been spot on.

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    I have the flyxii fr503 and its been fantastic for an XC bike, and has held up fine under my weight. Its also probably the cheapest option. Unless you really want the geometry of a different brand, the flyxii has my vote as best bang for the buck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hidey View Post
    I´m thinking in buying a hardtail chinese carbon 650b frame with this features.

    Tapered
    BB92 or BSA
    135x10mm and 142x12mm (or only 135x19mm)
    17"
    Internal routing for shifters cables, brakes housing internal or clasic

    Which is the best option?
    HongFu, Carbonal, Flixxy or other brand?
    Still loving my CS-196 from Peter at XM Carbon speed, been out on it tonight.

    Internal routing 142x12 rear axle, mines 1050g in largest size.

    Personally prefer BSA as the bottom brackets are cheap and plentiful and easy to change yourself.

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    i hope you are still around bryman..... i am about to pull the trigger on one of these for myself after seeing this frame and your build.. i was looking for some pics of someone sitting on the bike for geo... i would grab the 17inch since im 5'7 hows the durability if i was looking to use this as a trail bike when not on my FS? and what is the tire clearance at? i wanted a 29er to setup as 27.5+ but seems this style of frame is only in 27.5.

    appreciate any input! i am anxious to purchase! which BB did you go with also?


    Quote Originally Posted by bryman78 View Post
    Thanks team. It's my first project bike, with the intent being to see what kind of damage I could do on a comfortable/capable trail package under $3k:

    Attachment 1048050

    It's a FM089 from asiancyclexpress/yishunbike, supposedly made at create carbon leader I saw somewhere else on here, size small/15"
    Carbon AM wheels 35mm outside 30mm inside from the same website
    2015 fox factory 34 stealth edition 160mm
    KS lev Ti 125mm
    x01 cranks with direct mount MRP 28T ring
    KMC x11 SL 11-speed gold
    sram RSC guides
    Minion DHR II (2.3) DHF (2.5)
    GX shifter, rear mech and cassette
    chromag juniper saddle
    I think that's about it. The chromag pedals are mine (rider uses spd/xt trail), cockpit from prior bike, Kore OCD 20 (cut to 760) and 50mm matching stem, troy lee grips

    -b

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    Quote Originally Posted by whitecitadel View Post
    Still loving my CS-196 from Peter at XM Carbon speed, been out on it tonight.

    Internal routing 142x12 rear axle, mines 1050g in largest size.

    Personally prefer BSA as the bottom brackets are cheap and plentiful and easy to change yourself.

    Do you have a contact? Is that a 27.5 race geo? Or at least a 70+ hta? Thank you

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    Thank you, I look for a FR501, the CS-196 dont like the rear triangle

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    Quote Originally Posted by LaneDetroitCity View Post
    Do you have a contact? Is that a 27.5 race geo? Or at least a 70+ hta? Thank you
    http://www.xmcarbonspeed.com/Productinfo.asp?f=1284

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    My 20.5" frame is 71 deg - geometry on web page

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    Quote Originally Posted by tigerrreyes View Post
    Something beautiful is about to be born .... Project bike for my wife Rubi Attachment 1035143
    Really like the color, I just ordered a 29R frame from xmcarbonspeed ina Pantone #382c hopefully it's similar color. What color code is that frame?

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    Quote Originally Posted by vwsurfbum View Post
    From Saturdays race (I know the forks are the wrong colour, I have a set of pikes in black on the way)


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    Hi again, What size are the disc brake rotors that you placed? It looks like a 203mm (Shimano RT86) both on the front and rear. Is that right?
    Thanks,
    ChuckieG

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    Front 203 and 180 rear

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    Thanks! Would a 203 fit the rear and can the frame handle it? (ICAN website does not list the maximum rotor size for the S7).

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    I would say no.

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    OK, thanks!

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    Hi there everyone! The last 5-6 mounts I've been planning, buying parts, and building my first XC-oriented bike (only ridden free ride oriented styles till now), and I have to say I'm quite pleased with the result. As per now, the weight is at around 6,6kg, but I'm going to get it down to 6.2-6.4kg (I'll save 100 grams from switching the heavy Odi grips with Extradite's alone!) when I'm completely done (if I'll ever be). A few changes have been done since the picture was taken. I.e. Bebop Pedals instead of Syntace NumberNines (borrowed from my street rig), Carbon Works bottle cages installed, new Next SL crank with black logo (not the G4 version) because of a manufacturing defect on the ones in the picture. I've also got some small goodies on order

    Main parts speclist:
    - frame: Xiamen Carbon Speed CS-196-SL 19"
    - fork: Xiamen Carbon Speed FK023 with 15mm axle
    - rims: Light-Bicycle carbon, lightest 650B version (32h rear, 28h front)
    - hubs: Extralite HyperFront (15mm) and HyperRear2 (12mm) with hybrid-ceramic bearings
    - spokes: Sapim CX-Super
    - cassette: Sram XG-1195
    - derailleur and shifter: Shimano XTR M9000 with a lot of alu/ti bolts, and new pulleys with ceramic bearings.
    - crank: Race Face Next SL
    - pedals: Bebop (currently only with stainless spindles, gonna switch to Ti of course)
    - brakes: Formula R1 Racing 2016, black
    - lots of cheap Chinese cockpit/seat zone parts (gonna get Extralite/Schmolke etc. after the summer).
    - heavy Chinese thru axles


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    That's light!!
    Putting a proper sized stem will take 0.5kg off

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    Haha! At least 30-40 grams;P This one is 100mm. Got the wrong size from eBay. I'm gonna get the Extralite HyperStem in 80 or 90mm. Gonna order some more cheap Chinese ones to figure out which i guess...

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    Try the kalloy uno stems (eBay), they are not expensive and are very light.

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    I've got the Hylix stem, which is around the same weight and price as the Kalloy. I think I'll just order some really cheap ones (cheapest I can find) to find out what size I like the best, then order the Extralite.

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    I was searching for a frame with Geo's just like this one... It's the Workswell WCB-M-086
    I am a bit concerned about the seat tube clamp. Just wondering if anyone has built this frame up?

    WCB-M-086(27.5ER)-workswellbikes

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    Lookalike a mondraker. I can't see it being an issue

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    That does look kind of weird. Also, what travel size fork are you planning to run on your build?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MiggySawdust View Post
    That does look kind of weird. Also, what travel size fork are you planning to run on your build?
    100mm. My Revelation fork axle center to crown is 488mm. The geo's call for a 487mm +/- 1.5mm

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    Hi Peter. Do you sell a carbon hardtail 650b/26.5 frame that is made for a 120mm fork? I'm looking for a small/medium frame that has a stack of ~600/reach of ~400 and a head tube angle of 68 degree.

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    That tan tan site is interesting, not seen the 29er version of my S7 frame.

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    So been a few changes in the last few weeks.

    The pike situation was rectified and a new Slackerlizer headset was fitted. the result is a much more confidence inspiring ride and more control over rough terrain. still struggling with the set up from RCT3's on my tranny to the RC's on this.


    Then over the weekend the 11speed conversion turned up as i'd litterlary worn away the teeth on the Praxis cassette. I then fitted the Rock Razor, oh my god i hate Shwable tyres, it better be good with the ammount of grief getting it seated on wide rims.

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    Recommendations on a cheap hardtail that I can put a 120-140mm fork on? Been wanting a good slack(ish) all-mountain hardtail and this might be a good way to build one on a budget.

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    hi anyone have purchased this kind of frame?

    https://www.alibaba.com/product-deta...857.0.0.ZjqcBG

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    Anyone know of a good write-up for a complete disassembly and re-lubing of all pivot points?

    Obviously doesn't have to be specific to chiner builds.

    Thanks

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    http://forums.mtbr.com/27-5/beiou-27-5-a-947535.html

    That is the frame/bike I'm using.

    I bought it as a complete bike but you can buy just the frame if preferred.

    My replies and pictures are at the bottom.

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    Good day! Just wanted to ask if anyone has the experience using SAVA SV550. This is China Carbon Bike. I purchased mine around $550 with some mixed components (Acera RD, Sensah FD, Mech. Brakes).

    I had some generic bikes before when I was young and this is the first-time I have purchased a bike on a higher price. Can someone tell if my decision on buying china-branded carbon frames good? I'm from the Philippines BTW.

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    If you like it you did fine..

    I was a little nervous about trying a "Chinese" frame until I looked at my nice expensive giant full suspension.. Who's frame is made in China and says.. "why was this so much more expensive?"

    I've got about $1500 into my no name China carbon 27.5 hard tail. With the exception of the shifters, fork, and brakes.. non of it is major brand stuff, and it's the best bike I have ever had.

    I'll probably do a full suspension build next, go the same route.

    There will always be haters, just ignore them.
    They are just pissy that they paid more for their frame that was also made in China because it had a name brand sticker slapped on it and went though 3 middle men.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ja001son View Post
    If you like it you did fine..

    I was a little nervous about trying a "Chinese" frame until I looked at my nice expensive giant full suspension.. Who's frame is made in China and says.. "why was this so much more expensive?"

    I've got about $1500 into my no name China carbon 27.5 hard tail. With the exception of the shifters, fork, and brakes.. non of it is major brand stuff, and it's the best bike I have ever had.

    I'll probably do a full suspension build next, go the same route.

    There will always be haters, just ignore them.
    They are just pissy that they paid more for their frame that was also made in China because it had a name brand sticker slapped on it and went though 3 middle men.
    Well so far, so good when it comes to my riding experience. I really like the weight and I might be upgrading parts soon to improve it. I've been riding it for around 400km+ now in one month of use. Frame might hold up for long since I usually ride on roads and mild trails.
    Only bad experience I had was the broken chain.

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    Had to reply to this one. I purchased an ICAN S7 trying to save money and it was the most pedal bobbing bike I've ever owned. Purchased a Yeti SB5 after I sold it and the difference is not night day, it was more like life and death; literally. The Chinese suspensions are gawd awful; trust me.

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    Had both, the S7 doesn't Bob at all? What shock was you using? The CCDB works brilliantly

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    Quote Originally Posted by vwsurfbum View Post
    So been a few changes in the last few weeks.

    The pike situation was rectified and a new Slackerlizer headset was fitted. the result is a much more confidence inspiring ride and more control over rough terrain. still struggling with the set up from RCT3's on my tranny to the RC's on this.


    Then over the weekend the 11speed conversion turned up as i'd litterlary worn away the teeth on the Praxis cassette. I then fitted the Rock Razor, oh my god i hate Shwable tyres, it better be good with the ammount of grief getting it seated on wide rims.
    Slackerlizer headset? I have been looking for a IS standard angle changing headset and have found nothing. I googled slackerlizer headset and got nothing.
    Can you help me out?

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    It is a English company called Superstar Components. Works components do one and also Cane Creek. This is the size you need

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    Quote Originally Posted by vwsurfbum View Post
    It is a English company called Superstar Components. Works components do one and also Cane Creek. This is the size you need

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    Hmm I was told zs56 wouldn't work on a frame with integrated cups which all Chinese carbon frames seem to be. Does your bike have integrated cups top and bottom?
    Either way thanks for you help.

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    Just remove the old cups, they come out easily

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    Finally finished

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    So after what seemed like forever, Hobbes and I went for our first ride. It was worth the wait. The bike needs a few small tweaks but I am happy with the results.

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    A friend and I are in the process of ordering two of the Deng Fu FM288 frames (Same as Hong Fu 336). They look like a good deal, and after reading the generally positive experiences people have had here, it seems like a go. I'm curious what sizes you've chosen given your height and inseams. We're both 6'2" 35" inseam (about 188cm, 89cm). I'm pretty sure the 20.5" (520cm) is the way to go. Both our current bikes are 19" (48cm) frames with 595mm top tubes. I think the added 45mm would be nice. On the fence about gaining 40mm seat tube length though; I already run my dropper post down to the seat tube collar. It's a DNM cheapy though, and I notice that it has a fairly large/tall mount on it as well so it's minimum height isn't as low as more spendy options.

    I have a couple other questions as well:

    I'm also curious, has anyone gotten the 288/336/S7 frames with BSA instead of BB92? What's the consensus regarding grease vs sleeve retaining compound (Loctite 642/609/640) when installing a BB92 in this frame?

    Has anyone had Deng Fu paint the frame? How's the quality of the paint job as well as the durability been? We've gotten a quote of $45 for a single color (rather than the standard flat black), and we're currently waiting on a quote for a fairly simple two-color design.

    How long of a shock can you safely run? From what I've read here 200x55 seems safe, while 200x57 seems do-able but with very little margin?

    Thanks!

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    Does anyone know what size fork the CS-136/196 is designed for?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jdosher View Post
    A friend and I are in the process of ordering two of the Deng Fu FM288 frames (Same as Hong Fu 336). They look like a good deal, and after reading the generally positive experiences people have had here, it seems like a go. I'm curious what sizes you've chosen given your height and inseams. We're both 6'2" 35" inseam (about 188cm, 89cm). I'm pretty sure the 20.5" (520cm) is the way to go. Both our current bikes are 19" (48cm) frames with 595mm top tubes. I think the added 45mm would be nice. On the fence about gaining 40mm seat tube length though; I already run my dropper post down to the seat tube collar. It's a DNM cheapy though, and I notice that it has a fairly large/tall mount on it as well so it's minimum height isn't as low as more spendy options.

    I have a couple other questions as well:

    I'm also curious, has anyone gotten the 288/336/S7 frames with BSA instead of BB92? What's the consensus regarding grease vs sleeve retaining compound (Loctite 642/609/640) when installing a BB92 in this frame?

    Has anyone had Deng Fu paint the frame? How's the quality of the paint job as well as the durability been? We've gotten a quote of $45 for a single color (rather than the standard flat black), and we're currently waiting on a quote for a fairly simple two-color design.

    How long of a shock can you safely run? From what I've read here 200x55 seems safe, while 200x57 seems do-able but with very little margin?

    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Newwt View Post
    Does anyone know what size fork the CS-136/196 is designed for?
    CS-196 is 100mm I believe, but ask Peter for the drawing.


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    Quote Originally Posted by vwsurfbum View Post
    I'm running a 200 * 57.

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    Excellent. Thanks! I have a RS Monarch RT3 on the way.

    I assume you've had no issues with the tire bottoming out on the seat tube? What tire do you run?

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    Which axle(s) work for the 336/288 frame?

    Someone mentioned this unit ($50)
    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

    Anything less expensive? Such as this (about half the price)
    https://www.amazon.com/Shimano-AX56-...ds=12x142+axle

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    Quote Originally Posted by jdosher View Post
    Excellent. Thanks! I have a RS Monarch RT3 on the way.

    I assume you've had no issues with the tire bottoming out on the seat tube? What tire do you run?
    No tyre rubbing on the seat tube but anything bigger than a 2.3 is close. I was using a 2.35 rock razor through the summer and it did rub on the lower chain stay when cornering hard.

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    Sort of a thread bump here, but I'm curious of the weight of a 27.5 FS version...Thanks!

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    Holy crap! Look at this bike I just saw!
    It's cool as hell no matter who it's from.
    Imust Carbon 27 5 Full Suspension MTB Frame XP07 M Size BSA Rear 12x148mm | eBay
    Looks like a Norco, which is fine by me. The numbers also look darn good too. The Large looks mighty tempting.
    I can't believe I haven't seen anyone post anything about this yet.

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    I've been thinking of buying this frame: https://www.grvstec.com/portfolio-it...27-5er-hmf036/
    and set it up with Di2 2x11. Anyone tried this frame or have any comment on it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by speedfrik View Post
    I've thinking of buying this frame: https://www.grvstec.com/portfolio-it...27-5er-hmf036/
    and set it up with Di2 2x11. Anyone tried this frame or have any comment on it?
    $466 on aliexpress, looks like a decent frame. Go for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattsavage View Post
    $466 on aliexpress, looks like a decent frame. Go for it.
    OK, done! Ordered it on Alibaba.

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    So what vendors are safer to buy from currently ?
    Looking for hardtail frame with 120-140travel for more agressive trails.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pol4k View Post
    So what vendors are safer to buy from currently ?
    Looking for hardtail frame with 120-140travel for more agressive trails.
    I don't believe anyone makes a HT with the geometry that would support a 140mm fork and AM riding. Most of these are designed around an 80-100mm xc fork.

    That being said, I ride an Ican XT275 with a 120mm fork, dropper post with the cable routed through the F.der cable route. I ride it aggressively, I'm a big guy, but its still just an xc bike...
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    So does anyone have experience with this bike yet?

    https://m.aliexpress.com/s/item/32675025369.html

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    Any Ican P8 rider.Please come in share yr views.
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    I'm liking the LCFS705- https://www.alibaba.com/product-deta...502216535.html

    And then I saw this-Chinese Carbon Frames - 650b edition-27-5-plus-full-suspension-carbon-fiber.jpg

    https://www.alibaba.com/product-deta...308.0.0.m94c35

    No reply yet on the price and other details, but this looks really nice.
    Thoughts?

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    The top one has a VPP great suspension platform, the lower has a straight forward system and is plus sized. Depends what you after.

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    the 2nd one reminds me of the new slayer linkage-horst 4 way pivots, if that's the term.


    And both frames are boost spaced.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Creep Tonight View Post
    I'm liking the LCFS705- https://www.alibaba.com/product-deta...502216535.html

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    https://www.alibaba.com/product-deta...308.0.0.m94c35

    No reply yet on the price and other details, but this looks really nice.
    Thoughts?
    DO you got a reply now? how much ?

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    Nope. no answer on the pricing but the rep said it got 140/140-150 rear and front travel.
    Shock size 200x51.
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    I was wondering if I can get some feedback. Having trouble finding a small frame or bike for my 14 year son. I've tried searching for anything on the Ican P7 and nothing is coming up.

    Anyone have experience with it? I have all the parts to build one, even a CC shock sitting around.

    Have you ordered Ican from the ICAN ebay seller? They have a P7 listed but I didn't see it on Ican's website.
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    If anyone in England is looking for a medium S7 I'll be selling mine, I've landed a Mondraker Foxy XF so its now surplus. Frame and CCDB only.

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    Does anyone know which of the carbon chiners comes closest to the Scott Spark 900RC SL everyone's so excited about? My best buddy got one and I must say, the geometry feels very right. But way too expensive for me right now... So which frames should I start to compare?
    The CS-FS27 27.5+ looks roughly similar, apart from the head tube.
    Thanks!

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    Do a search on chinertown. There has been a lot more discussion on those frames there.

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    27.5er ALL MOUNTAIN frame

    [QUOTE=vwsurfbum;12690340]That tan tan site is interesting, not seen the 29er version of my S7 frame.

    this is 27.5er 650B all mountain frame

    Chinese Carbon Frames - 650b edition-fm336-650b-13-.jpg

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    29er all mountain frame

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    this is 29er ALL mountain frame . but now our factory change the model to 27.5er boost .

    who want see 27.5er boost frame . please contact me email: [email protected] website: TanTan Sports Equipment Co.,LTD

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    QTOUR Frames? Other recommended XC Chinese frames 2017

    Quote Originally Posted by HaakonJohansen View Post
    Hi there everyone! The last 5-6 mounts I've been planning, buying parts, and building my first XC-oriented bike (only ridden free ride oriented styles till now), and I have to say I'm quite pleased with the result. As per now, the weight is at around 6,6kg, but I'm going to get it down to 6.2-6.4kg (I'll save 100 grams from switching the heavy Odi grips with Extradite's alone!) when I'm completely done (if I'll ever be). A few changes have been done since the picture was taken. I.e. Bebop Pedals instead of Syntace NumberNines (borrowed from my street rig), Carbon Works bottle cages installed, new Next SL crank with black logo (not the G4 version) because of a manufacturing defect on the ones in the picture. I've also got some small goodies on order

    Main parts speclist:
    - frame: Xiamen Carbon Speed CS-196-SL 19"
    - fork: Xiamen Carbon Speed FK023 with 15mm axle
    - rims: Light-Bicycle carbon, lightest 650B version (32h rear, 28h front)
    - hubs: Extralite HyperFront (15mm) and HyperRear2 (12mm) with hybrid-ceramic bearings
    - spokes: Sapim CX-Super
    - cassette: Sram XG-1195
    - derailleur and shifter: Shimano XTR M9000 with a lot of alu/ti bolts, and new pulleys with ceramic bearings.
    - crank: Race Face Next SL
    - pedals: Bebop (currently only with stainless spindles, gonna switch to Ti of course)
    - brakes: Formula R1 Racing 2016, black
    - lots of cheap Chinese cockpit/seat zone parts (gonna get Extralite/Schmolke etc. after the summer).
    - heavy Chinese thru axles
    Wow, that's light

    I'm new to the forum and to mountain biking and would like a little help with ordering a new frame. I recently bought a Scott Scale XC race bike from a friend, but I went over the bars whilst hardly moving and the rear stay bashed a rock and cracked The damage is very close to the brake hanger so I'm not sure a fix would hold up. I'd much rather buy a new Chinese carbon frame which will not cost much more than the fixing the Scale. I've already researched some companies as I would like to buy a frame from a Chinese brand/factory (such as Hong Fu, etc) rather than an anonymous Chinese frame from eBay.

    In my search I came across the company QTOUR and wonder if anyone has any experience with these frames? I liked what I saw on their website (I can't publish links yet as I'm new to the forum), but a quick search on google for QTOUR bikes and you will find it.

    The company seems to have only been around for a few years, but they are a subsidiary of a larger composites corporation and claim most workers have over 10 years experience with carbon. What impressed me was the investment in the factory and facilities. It looks like they have sophisticated test equipment from Taiwan and they test their frames to meet standards 30% higher than ISO and BS EN standards. The frame I'm interested in is the 27.5 XC frame called the M02 (full bike is called the Hawk). I'm wondering what you guys think of the geometry as I know very little about this.

    I'm also interested in any frame recommendations for a 27.5" lightweight carbon hardtail that can be trusted.

    I am hoping to order a frame soon and swap the bits from my Scott Scale, but there are a few things I'm not sure of:

    My Scott has a thru axle, but most Chinese frames I see have drop outs with a screw in thru axle adaptor? Are these robust?

    Also, My crank is Shimano XTR. What BB sizes will be suitable and what is best? Also, my front chainring has 36 teeth and I have 11 rear sprockets. Will all frames be compatible with this?

    I've only been mountain biking for a short time, but I'm already missing it terribly so any help you can give to enable me to get a new frame on order asap will be much appreciated.

    One more thing, my Scott Scale is a medium and feel a little big/long. I'm 5'6 with 30" inside leg. I'm guessing I should go for a small frame or 15/16"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueBuddha View Post
    Wow, that's light

    I'm new to the forum and to mountain biking and would like a little help with ordering a new frame. I recently bought a Scott Scale XC race bike from a friend, but I went over the bars whilst hardly moving and the rear stay bashed a rock and cracked The damage is very close to the brake hanger so I'm not sure a fix would hold up. I'd much rather buy a new Chinese carbon frame which will not cost much more than the fixing the Scale. I've already researched some companies as I would like to buy a frame from a Chinese brand/factory (such as Hong Fu, etc) rather than an anonymous Chinese frame from eBay.

    In my search I came across the company QTOUR and wonder if anyone has any experience with these frames? I liked what I saw on their website (I can't publish links yet as I'm new to the forum), but a quick search on google for QTOUR bikes and you will find it.

    The company seems to have only been around for a few years, but they are a subsidiary of a larger composites corporation and claim most workers have over 10 years experience with carbon. What impressed me was the investment in the factory and facilities. It looks like they have sophisticated test equipment from Taiwan and they test their frames to meet standards 30% higher than ISO and BS EN standards. The frame I'm interested in is the 27.5 XC frame called the M02 (full bike is called the Hawk). I'm wondering what you guys think of the geometry as I know very little about this.

    I'm also interested in any frame recommendations for a 27.5" lightweight carbon hardtail that can be trusted.

    I am hoping to order a frame soon and swap the bits from my Scott Scale, but there are a few things I'm not sure of:

    My Scott has a thru axle, but most Chinese frames I see have drop outs with a screw in thru axle adaptor? Are these robust?

    Also, My crank is Shimano XTR. What BB sizes will be suitable and what is best? Also, my front chainring has 36 teeth and I have 11 rear sprockets. Will all frames be compatible with this?

    I've only been mountain biking for a short time, but I'm already missing it terribly so any help you can give to enable me to get a new frame on order asap will be much appreciated.

    One more thing, my Scott Scale is a medium and feel a little big/long. I'm 5'6 with 30" inside leg. I'm guessing I should go for a small frame or 15/16"?
    Agreed, about frames. If you need to buy a carbon frame from Asia, Hong Fu and Miracle, as two reputable Chinese brands, should be in your consideration. They ship the tons of carbon frames to Euro and to America every year.

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    ICAN AC156 rear brake fitment issue

    I recently purchased the ICAN AC156 27.5 FS frame. I had it custom painted and have been collecting parts to complete the build over the past several weeks. All of the parts arrive no problem. I get the frame back with the paint job complete and begin to put everything together. {Insert drumroll}....get everything on except the rear brake caliper because the brake caliper itself will not fit. The brake mounts on to the lower arm of the rear chainstay, but the issue is the brake caliper (Pot) will not pass by the upper arm of the rear triangle. I have tried an Avid Mechanical and the arm that engages the brake hits the frame. I then tried a Magura MT5 and the rear pot of the caliper hits the frame. (FYI, using 160 rotors).

    Has anyone else built up the AC156 frame, and if so, what rear brake are you using?Chinese Carbon Frames - 650b edition-brake-pic.jpg

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    If this is the same as a Hong Fu fm156 I am running Shimano xt's. no fitment issues at all. good luck

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    Not sure if it is the same as the Hong Fu or not, but I did find the single piston Magura MT6 does fit. I also contacted the product manager at ICAN cycles and he let me know the Shimano BR-M615 will also fit.

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    Hello, does anyone have this frame or have tried?:

    Enduro Frame P9 - Shenzhen ICAN Sports Equipment Co., Ltd.


    I've seen some bike for Enduro in Google, but I have not talked to anyone who has it this frame.


    Thanks! .

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    Look on this thread. http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?t=928177

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    In the market for a 27.5 hard tail frame.

    The FM406 and CS-406 look good but not $450 good. Warranties on these frames are basically useless because of return shipping costs so I'd rather not spend over $300.

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    Peter... is the rear caliper mount the of your CS-156 the same as the IP-156 and the Hong Fu FM-156? I ask because I still cannot find a rear brake caliper that mounts correctly on your CS-156. I have tried Avid BB5, Avid Juicy, Shimano BR315, and Tektro Mechanical. Thanks

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    FWIW, I have the AC-156 and found the Magura MT5 fits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bama_92 View Post
    FWIW, I have the AC-156 and found the Magura MT5 fits.
    Thanks for your input bama_92! Now to see from Peter if your AC-156 has the same rear brake mount as my CS-156.

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    Update: Got a 20" "MN03" from carbon-goods during an ebay 20% off sale for $187 shipped. It had a different model on the packing slip but I can't find it now.

    It came in at 1500g, takes up to maybe a 2.6" rear but I have 2.5" on there now.

    Geo is a bit dated. Had to get the large version for the reach I wanted, so stand over is less than I'd like.

    Build quality seems fine. Initial ride feel is very playful in the turns, but kind of like a bulldozer on ledge ups. I might put on a shorter stem and go to a sb seatpost to get my cg back.




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    Quote Originally Posted by talabardio View Post
    26 inches wheels on a 650b frame probably won't work that well. I assume, given the thread name, that you are referring to Chinese frames right? I think the Chinese frames are specced for 100mm travel forks.
    If there is room for a 26+ tire up front, then it can work great. The problem is in the back, my experience in the back has been that 27.5 is still better than 26, but 26+ up front can be great if you can't fit a 27.5+ tire in the fork. Some people do this as well with 27.5+ front tires in a 29" frame.
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    BEIOU Downhill Dual Suspension 3K Carbon Fiber Mountain Bike Frame DW-LINK 26-Inch Matte Black Unibody Internal Cable Routing T800 Ultralight 18-Inch MTB B022A18X
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    This last one is the most interesting. 1.1 kg. It supposedly comes in 26", 27.5", and 29" frames, length is either 15.5 or 17. No option to choose which wheel size for the frame though so you probably have to e-mail them before purchasing.



    But after looking at the new Shimano 12-speed drivetrain and it's astronomical pricing:

    https://www.bikemag.com/gear/compone...eils-next-xtr/

    $380 just for the cassette, $420 for 1x crankset, $260 rear derailleur, $130 shift lever, $130 chainring, $65 chain, I'm thinking 10-11 speed is a bit nicer on the wallet lol.
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    Hey guys,
    I just got a new Hardtail carbon frame from BXT at Ebay really cheap, the frame just came and is super light weight, with my 225Lb im scary to ride that frame, look very well made and good finish.

    So the frame feel really hollow if u knock is like hitting a plastic bottle also I can flex the down tube ( around the bottle cage area) a bit with my both hands pushing.

    Anyone can give me some advise, my other carbon frame bike is a Santa Cruz Bronson and that one feel hardsolid and heavy.
    may be is normal thing on this super light frames , mine is size 18.5 and weight 2,10 Lb
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    Quote Originally Posted by Angel212 View Post
    So the frame feel really hollow if u knock is like hitting a plastic bottle also I can flex the down tube ( around the bottle cage area) a bit with my both hands pushing. Lb
    Frame strength isn't determined by trying to compress the frame at a singular point, especially in the middle of the main tubes. If you're concerned about weight did you notice if there was a rider weight maximum?

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    decide to go and finish the bike, the best way to tested is in the trails. Thanks

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    I looked at BXT but passed because of the cramped geometry and light weight. 950g frame for a 225lb rider? Maybe stick to the smooth trails.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schulze View Post
    I looked at BXT but passed because of the cramped geometry and light weight. 950g frame for a 225lb rider? Maybe stick to the smooth trails.
    yep, I just notice that after I ordered, his geometry is between med/large and the frame is really light, my concern is the flex on the frame tubing and the little of material.I will report later

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angel212 View Post
    yep, I just notice that after I ordered, his geometry is between med/large and the frame is really light, my concern is the flex on the frame tubing and the little of material.I will report later
    Yeah please do. I as looking at this exact frame for myself but I too am concerned about my weight on this frame (235lbs - 240lbs with water, tool, and supplies). I would hate to take a small drop and split this thing in half, lol.

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    Look at the frame in my post at the top of this page. It's stiff and takes a 2.6" rear tire.

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    Chinese Carbon Frames - 650b edition-2018-08-07_101147.jpg

    Just found this having a poke about - anyone seen it before? Private label and one of a few they seem to do (only carbon one though it seems) with 120mm, 140mm and 160mm and a DH bike.

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    Hi. Anyone riding a velobuild M071? They're on sale for $229 and am looking to build a hardtail for smooth trails. I tried searching the thread, but nothing came up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Angel212 View Post
    yep, I just notice that after I ordered, his geometry is between med/large and the frame is really light, my concern is the flex on the frame tubing and the little of material.I will report later
    Angel, I ordered the BXT frame a couple months ago on sale from ebay and am just now getting around to building it. What rear brake adapter did you use?

    I kind of bought this on a whim, and when it came in, I noticed how I didn't like the humpback of the 20". Standover height is less than I want, and the geometry looks really tight. I'm thinking about selling it locally for a loss and ordering something more modern geometry. Can anyone make a recommendation for a lightweight XC frame (~1200g plus or minus), with either boost or non-boost spacing that has more modern geometry?Chinese Carbon Frames - 650b edition-img_20180722_193742877-1-.jpgChinese Carbon Frames - 650b edition-frank_10.jpg

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    BTX Frame build

    Sorry for the late reply on the forum
    I finish my build few months ago and been using that few times
    so far no flex on the frame and been doing good , very stiff .
    still abit concern on the little material on the top tube

    here is a few pics of the finish build
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    BTX Frame build

    Here is a close up of the rear brake
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    Purchased a vb-m-071 that was on sale through Velobuild.

    It's starting to look like a bike.







    Will be running a 1x10 slx/Saint drivetrain. Saving up for a wheelset.
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    Finished my budget spare parts build yesterday.





    Ended up weighing just under 24 lbs with heavy wheels. It climbs really well!

    I plan on buying a carbon wheelset next season.

    It's the VeloBuild vb-m-071.
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    delete. looking at a TI frame now, just to hard to find a Chiner frame/fork to mount fenders to.

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    What do you think of the geo of this bike? LTK108



    HTA looks not bad. I'm 5'8" with a 32.5" inseam, and think the 18" is the one for that.
    I already have a LTK118 road frame, it's good quality and been a lot of fun.
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    Don't overlook Beiou and Savadeck.
    Toray T700 or 800 starting at $339. Beiou also makes a full-suspension frame for around $465. Not sure what the head tube angle is for Beiou but the Savadeck one is 70 degrees, so 100-120mm is probably the best choice. The complete 27.5 hardtail bikes start at $1100 and are 27 lbs. A few tweaks and you could probably get them down 3-4 lbs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by .je View Post
    HTA looks not bad. I'm 5'8" with a 32.5" inseam, and think the 18" is the one for that.
    I already have a LTK118 road frame, it's good quality and been a lot of fun.
    That's 4" shorter than me but only an inch less inseam. This bike seems tailor made for you.

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    Chinese Carbon Frames - 650b edition-83a13403-721b-470e-a60b-b75a29de0bff.jpgChinese Carbon Frames - 650b edition-21d46622-eaf2-45dd-93d0-b2311949ca66.jpgJust finished tantan 27.5 for my wife. Had help from sissypants on frame purchase. Bike weight is 23 lbs. She is coming back to mountain biking after riding mainly road for the last 3 years. Bike was phenomenal loads of traction with 2.6 xr2s. Front end stayed planted on climbs,handling was great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schulze View Post
    That's 4" shorter than me but only an inch less inseam. This bike seems tailor made for you.
    That's good to hear. Only 2 concerns are the 40-day wait for stock to build, and the 37.5mm BB drop. Is that too small for rippin' around the forest?

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    37mm bb drop is fine for 2.2" tires. My ht has 50mm drop which is working fine for 2.4-2.6".

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    it might just be my eyes but are you limited in maximum chain ring sizes with these Frames? I bought one and I plan to bring some junk over from my old bike but might convert to 1X or 2X, those 1x pictures I see on here look like a 30 or a 32 T is as big as will fit without touching the frame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ausable View Post
    There are a few threads related to the various 650b chinese hardtail frames, most of them started by the related suppliers (Hong Fu, Iplay, Cabonal etc).

    Similar to the 29er and Road Forums, it would be a good idea to share all the ordering/assembly /ride feedback in a single thread.

    So has someone alredy ordered or better, received any new toy from the Far East?

    Thanks for sharing!

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    While I've not ordered anything off-road from the Chinese manufacturers, I did order a road frame from Fly XII this past summer.

    Its design is reminiscent of a Pinarello Dogma, which was the attraction; price, the other. An LBS moved over my Campy Chorus components and wheelset, and I have to say that I don't think I've ever ridden a better bike than this.

    Fly XII also makes 29 & 27.5 hardtail framesets, which are greatly tempting—especially for what's brought me to MTBR: Research on whether or not the 27.5" Cannondale Habit 3 Carbon I bought summer before last is truly the best bike for me when I decide to hit the dirt. Lately, the Habit has felt less like paydirt and more like a heavy hunk of lead. But I digress.

    Check out Fly XII for some on- and off-road options. They came highly recommended via a triathlon forum, and I will certainly second that recommendation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vartz04 View Post
    it might just be my eyes but are you limited in maximum chain ring sizes with these Frames? I bought one and I plan to bring some junk over from my old bike but might convert to 1X or 2X, those 1x pictures I see on here look like a 30 or a 32 T is as big as will fit without touching the frame.
    Have you figured this out? I'm interested as well, because I'm considering one of these frames and need to put a larger ring on it.

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