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    650b/27.5 and Rigid - who's riding em?

    I'm not sure if there is already a thread devoted to this - but I figured I'd ask - how many folks are riding Rigid and 650b/27.5?

    Post up your rides!

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    sweet bike man, that thing looks killer. whats the weight on it?
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    I don't know really - it ain't overly light though - most of the stuff on it is re-cycled budget stuff I had layin around, and the wheelset is one of those sixfifty.com Mezzo wheelsets (not the lightest - but it was an affordable set that came with tires and tubes so I snagged em to get me back in the 650b game).

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    650bed Monster MUSS

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    I don't know why,... it's just MUSS easier to pedal than the other ones.

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    i love the simplicity of a rigid ss, just not sure if im awesome enough to ride one
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    It was also set up dingle-speed in that photo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by obs08 View Post
    i love the simplicity of a rigid ss, just not sure if im awesome enough to ride one
    I'm anything but awesome - I just find it simple and fun - in fact my skills have regressed - I used to ride a ton - now - not so much, but still enjoy getting out there when I can.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMcG View Post
    I'm anything but awesome - I just find it simple and fun - in fact my skills have regressed - I used to ride a ton - now - not so much, but still enjoy getting out there when I can.
    Yeah, you don't have to be a pro to at least try riding it. It looks great BTW MMcG
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    Not sure if my newest is 27.5" or if it is 29". It is a full rigid frame & fork and it is very fun. I had forgotten how catching an inch of air in chunder becomes so rewarding.

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    650b wtb trailblazer 2.8" tires [650b+ in general] should make this an even more awesome niche

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    Haint, that's a Karate Monkey, yeah? 29er, nice paint to btw.

    Radioinactive, it may bounce a little but those advert/promo pics of the RMB Sherpa with those WTBs does inspire. Sorry about your radio.
    I don't know why,... it's just MUSS easier to pedal than the other ones.

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    My faithful ole steed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haint View Post
    Not sure if my newest is 27.5" or if it is 29". It is a full rigid frame & fork and it is very fun. I had forgotten how catching an inch of air in chunder becomes so rewarding.

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    How is the bottom bracket height with the B+ Set up on it? Is it at an acceptable level - or a tad low?

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    650b/27.5 and Rigid - who's riding em?-inbred-night.jpg My latest set up - Inbred 650b/B+ conversion.

    2.4 Mavic Crossmax Quest tire in back, and a 2.8 Trailblazer up front on a set of sixfifty.com Mezzo wheels (28mm wide rims).

    Hoping to get some 35mm rimmed wheels for her (or another bike) down the line a bit.
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    From the single speed forum back in April 2013 (edited):

    Quote Originally Posted by misterdangerpants View Post
    Been riding 650B since 2010.

    Currently riding a 2007 Ted Wojcik "Yo Teddy" (single speed conversion performed by Circle A Cycles in 2012):



    For more photos of the Wojcik through its many phases, go here.

    And the bike that got it all started, my 2010 Igleheart 953 650B:



    For more photos of the Igleheart, go here.
    Since this posting, the Ted Wojcik made another trip to Circle A Cycles to have the chainstays replaced to fit 2.4s. I also had Chris make me a fork to also fit the 2.4s. It's got a lovely Pacenti fork crown and looks great on the bike, of which isn't completed yet. Has the same axle-to-crown measurement so the geometry didn't change. I'll finish at at some point in the next few months and post some photos.

    Getting there:

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    Trailblazer appear to want to get lazy and fold over at all?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chippertheripper View Post
    Trailblazer appear to want to get lazy and fold over at all?
    Not at all - set out to ride tight trail on the Holiday and lowered tire pressure some more. Right now I am tempted to just lace up new hubs into these i23 WTB rims - it gets that freak-ie deak-ie.

    Quote Originally Posted by MMcG View Post
    How is the bottom bracket height with the B+ Set up on it? Is it at an acceptable level - or a tad low?
    I don't have a measurement, this is a 29" capable bike even with the B+ tires. But I am not even trying to accelerate like I would on my Trailbike so the approach to trail is vastly different. No complaints!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haint View Post
    Not sure if my newest is 27.5" or if it is 29". It is a full rigid frame & fork and it is very fun. I had forgotten how catching an inch of air in chunder becomes so rewarding.

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    I sold my KM a few days after I 650b'd my Troll. I never regretted that decision until now. Any pics of chainstay and seatstay clearances?

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    I'm still riding the same rigid 650b that I've had for the past 5+ years. A few weekends ago I took this bike on a 2-day bike camping trip. Since getting this bike (early 2009) I've added a hardtail 650b and full suspension 650b. I think I have all of the bases covered.
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    Quote Originally Posted by laffeaux View Post
    I'm still riding the same rigid 650b that I've had for the past 5+ years. A few weekends ago I took this bike on a 2-day bike camping trip. Since getting this bike (early 2009) I've added a hardtail 650b and full suspension 650b. I think I have all of the bases covered.
    Ahh I remember that bike - awesome - what is the Axle to crown height of that custom fork?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMcG View Post
    Ahh I remember that bike - awesome - what is the Axle to crown height of that custom fork?
    It's right around 470mm. Since there were no 650b-specific forks at the time, Rody went with his best guess for a suspension-corrected fork length.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saddle Up View Post
    I sold my KM a few days after I 650b'd my Troll. I never regretted that decision until now. Any pics of chainstay and seatstay clearances?
    Chainstay clearance measure right between 5/32- and 3/16" of an inch.

    These tires will be kept on these or similar width rims - grip is ideal over a range of pressure as well as the ride. The tread-pattern is a shallower profile than others, I'd not even think about going for any rim-widths suggested in other Threads about this tire.

    Nice Surly as well - by chance are you running a Surly Bolt-on front hub?
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    Good info thanks. I'm using just a plain Deore hubs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saddle Up View Post
    Good info thanks. I'm using just a plain Deore hubs.
    No worries.
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    Jamis Exile 27.5, great bike ride it all the time650b/27.5 and Rigid - who's riding em?-2014-06-20-14.13.24.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haint View Post
    Chainstay clearance measure right between 5/32- and 3/16" of an inch.
    Out of curiosity, what's the BB height for the KM with those wheels?

    Looking back I see you were asked that question already by MMcG.
    I don't know why,... it's just MUSS easier to pedal than the other ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dbhammercycle View Post
    Out of curiosity, what's the BB height for the KM with those wheels?

    Looking back I see you were asked that question already by MMcG.
    Getting a measurement is not a priority - I have taken the final build up and over much ragged trail in my Town, and spun it to length on the road. The bike feels properly balanced and well within it's element.

    Whatever the OE bike does measure - this is likely one full centimeter less in height.
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    650b/27.5 and Rigid - who's riding em?-15455037019_c3781aab74_o.jpg
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    Cool-blue Rhythm

    Too many miles and too much time on dirt bikes, Yamaha DT's and a
    certain 250 Honda Elsinore took a toll on my joints.

    Full suspension, yeah I need it.

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    We had wide rims back then, seems they are getting popular on Mountain bikes now.
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    Rigid Evil D.O.C. Conversion

    Here's my Rigid set up on my 650b Evil D.O.C. Conversion. I snapped these early in the a.m. - now that I've got the cranks sorted this thing is wicked fun!

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    I plan on changing the tires out now that I know I have more room for a bigger tire in back than what you see here (Quasi-Moto 2.0).

    I may also go 33:21 to enable an even bigger/meatier tire in back.

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    Gravity 27FIVE SS 27.5

    Gravity 27FIVE SS 27.5

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    My wife's SS is a rigid 650b 1x1. She loves it.

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    Untitled by Wilco Cycleworks, on Flickr


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    More details on that Wilco please!

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    650b front and rear with slackish headtube. Niner carbon fork. Stainless Steel top tube, and the rest is steel. Weight with the rigid is around 19.5-20 lbs.

    I absolutely love riding rigid. It's great. Very precise and climbs awesome. I did eventually swap over to my Lefty because I couldn't keep up the pace in the chunk during races. I'm undoubtedly faster with suspension, but training on the rigid makes my overall riding smoother.

    Also, I typically have the dropper post on the bike, but I had it off to tear it apart and clean it up a bit (Gravity Dropper).

    This is the same bike but with the Lefty and dropper post:


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    Hope this doesn't violate the spirit of the thread but this was built for 29" and 27.5+. Just happens to have 29" in this picture.


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    Ti/Steel Frame, Enve, Industry Nine, Endless Cogs, Thomson, by Wilco Cycleworks, on Flickr

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    Wow... speechless, jaw dropped, drueling human over here. pay no attention.
    I don't know why,... it's just MUSS easier to pedal than the other ones.

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    650b/27.5 and Rigid - who's riding em?

    My nashbar 650b ss. Ride it more than all my other bikes.
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    Anyone tried the bigger VEE Trax Fatty in a 29'er frame? I've got a Surly Ogre I'm thinking of fattying up.

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    Im riding the same,

    On One inbred 26er with 650b wheels rigid carbon fork single speed

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    Quote Originally Posted by ganjananda View Post
    Im riding the same,

    On One inbred 26er with 650b wheels rigid carbon fork single speed

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    How much clearance do you have at the top of the seatstays?

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    Depends on the chain length (for SS tention) there is around 2-3cm. In not with my bike at the moment, when I get home in a few day I'll take a photo for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ganjananda View Post
    Depends on the chain length (for SS tention) there is around 2-3cm. In not with my bike at the moment, when I get home in a few day I'll take a photo for you.
    Thanks.

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    Hi,

    Sorry for the late reply, Ive taken a photo of the clearance, its around 5-7mm from the wishbone join and closer to a 10mm to the sides. The tyers are 2.25 Racing Ralph. If you had the rear mech in and were running it geared you could have a lot more clearance

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    I'll be riding a 650 Potts with a Type II pretty soon. Can't wait.

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    ^Pics?
    I don't know why,... it's just MUSS easier to pedal than the other ones.

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    ME! I just built it up a couple weeks ago so I expect it to evolve a little bit more before I am happy.

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    OMG Becky... What manufacture is the fork?
    I don't know why,... it's just MUSS easier to pedal than the other ones.

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    That fork is from a company called All-City and is a throw back replica of the Fat City designs. I was kind of going for an old school look and ride with this bike because I used to race mountain bikes in the 90's and wanted to keep some of that magic now that I am getting back into it.

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    Ahhh yes, All City's another "local" company for me. I thought the fork looked familiar, it's the red Log Lady fork. The ride looks good, happy rollin'!
    I don't know why,... it's just MUSS easier to pedal than the other ones.

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    My rigid 29er (sorry) with XT 1x11 and Stans Arch EX
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    My old 26 er. I replaced the dead squishy fork and built up the Infernos on some XT hubs I had.
    It was a fun project.
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    650b/27.5 and Rigid - who's riding em?-potts-650b.jpg

    thats my Steve Potts neo retro 650b rigid - i love it ! thank you Steve !

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    why would one drive a bike with no front suspension?

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    why not ? a potts needs a potts fork - thats all ...
    no disc brakes , front shifting ... i'm a little retro guy

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    Quote Originally Posted by new_user67 View Post
    why would one drive a bike with no front suspension?
    Not everyone needs one.

    There are millions of road/hybrid/fitness bikes rolling around with people not wishing for a suspension fork.

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    Quote Originally Posted by new_user67 View Post
    why would one drive a bike with no front suspension?
    Same reason people drive cars without an automatic transmission, traction control or stability control... it's fun.

    There are plenty of reasons not to run front suspension.

    One big one is fork dive. The last thing you want when braking hard or weighting the front end in a turn is to have the front end lower, steepen your head angle and at the same time shorten your wheel base. No bueno.

    Another big reason is that suspension reduces trail feedback and doesn't track as well as a good rigid fork. Rigid bikes are way more responsive than a bike with suspension which makes them super fun.

    Weight and obviously maintenance are other reasons and the fact that the majority of trails don't need suspension, why would you want to have to deal with fork dive, a less responsive ride, extra weight and maintanence if you don't need to?

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    ah, never thought about that....

    i actually saw a video of a "fork dive"....without the suspension i guess the fall could have been avoided.

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    Here's a new Potts, 27.5 rigid SS with couplers.

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    beautiful & clean

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    This is my Chameleon I built up from some spare parts.

    Single speed, single brake and rigid. Very fun and a great way to improve skills!
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    Here's mine. Really liking it so far!


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    Quote Originally Posted by misterdangerpants View Post
    From the single speed forum back in April 2013 (edited):



    Since this posting, the Ted Wojcik made another trip to Circle A Cycles to have the chainstays replaced to fit 2.4s. I also had Chris make me a fork to also fit the 2.4s. It's got a lovely Pacenti fork crown and looks great on the bike, of which isn't completed yet. Has the same axle-to-crown measurement so the geometry didn't change. I'll finish at at some point in the next few months and post some photos.

    Getting there:



    How common is having the chainstays replaced? I'd love to mount a tire wider than 2.0" in the back. I've got a 2.4" in front but there's probably enough room for 2.75".

    Bike is a '97 Gary Fisher rigid on 27.5's. Only the frame and fork are original.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AKamp View Post


    Here's a new Potts, 27.5 rigid SS with couplers.
    Hi Aaron , hope all is well. Great looking Potts 27.5! Do you have any other closeup shots ? I'd like to do one just like that from Steve too, but geared. Although was in contact about maybe doing a gravel grinder/ all road type bike. Still loving the 29er, such a great bike. .

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    Rigid 2.0

    This isn't the fastest bike, but is a lot more fun than my old hardail with 120mm Rebas on it. The big tires and modern geometry go a long way to inspire confidence on the trail.

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    Got my Ritchey P-650b with a Ritchey carbon fork, M985 build with a host of ENVE components etc. 9.1kg ready to ride, there's a thread here somewhere on it.

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    Hi all! I'm a fairly new 27.5 convert. I love my 29er for monster trucking, but after messing around on a buddy's 27.5 it just really hit the spot for me. Took me a while to convince the wife this was a necessity, but I eventually wore her down. Still have a bunch of work to do, and this probably isn't going to be the final build, but here she is so far... Stanton Switchback!

    650b/27.5 and Rigid - who's riding em?-stanton_build-2-.jpg

    Edit: Oops, one to many beers to night - Front NOT rigid...my bad.

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