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    27.5 is Dead

    This was started in the NorCal forum by everyone’s favorite know-it-all, PVD...have at it

    http://forums.mtbr.com/california-no...d-1060687.html
    Last edited by griz; 11-19-2017 at 07:51 AM.

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    No thanks. Feeding the troll isn't very constructive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fluidworks View Post
    No thanks. Feeding the troll isn't very constructive.
    indeed.

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    Thank goodness my bike is a 27.5+. I'm saved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fluidworks View Post
    No thanks. Feeding the troll isn't very constructive.
    Party poopers...over in the NorCal forum, we feed the trolls until they barf

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    uh, no.

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    Seriously, a thread about a thread???? So meta.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Honda Guy View Post
    Seriously, a thread about a thread???? So meta.
    yup it's sad but true......... numerous threads in the nor-cal sub that have no place but are condoned because that's FC's lill backyard...lame. this one is no different. It should have been moved loooooooong ago, alas we now have two threads..

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    so we can go back to calling it 650b then....
    I don't know why,... it's just MUSS easier to pedal than the other ones.

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    I didn't know we stopped.
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    I certainly didn't, but I can do without the faces of disbelief when I say it....
    I don't know why,... it's just MUSS easier to pedal than the other ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by griz View Post
    This was started in the NorCal forum by everyone’s favorite know-it-all, PVD...have at it

    http://forums.mtbr.com/california-no...d-1060687.html
    At least this is better than the "Where to park in Fairfax thread"! And long live 650b!
    That is all. Carry on.....
    Wait whuuut, who did he tell you that!?!?....

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    Why do 29ers suck?

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    Quote Originally Posted by IAmHolland View Post
    Why do 29ers suck?
    They don't! Griz is just old school his latest bike is '15. He'll come around to the new geo at some point!
    Wait whuuut, who did he tell you that!?!?....

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    Quote Originally Posted by JMac47 View Post
    They don't! Griz is just old school his latest bike is '15. He'll come around to the new geo at some point!
    I was just giving an opening for Griz to revive his thread.

    I just bought the N4. :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by IAmHolland View Post
    Why do 29ers suck?
    far too many reasons, but yea they do.

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    I can’t wait for the 28.25ers take over

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    Quote Originally Posted by neb636 View Post
    I can’t wait for the 28.25ers take over
    sloooowly they shall in the form of 650b+

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    Quote Originally Posted by dbhammercycle View Post
    so we can go back to calling it 650b then....
    What's better for steep and rooty climbs, 650B or 27.5?
    Riding Washington State singletrack since 1986

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    Quote Originally Posted by Curveball View Post
    What's better for steep and rooty climbs, 650B or 27.5?
    I run 27.5 in front and 650B in the rear, because using just one doesn't work well...you need two wheels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Curveball View Post
    What's better for steep and rooty climbs, 650B or 27.5?
    650 with a capital B, fo'sho.
    I don't know why,... it's just MUSS easier to pedal than the other ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeremy3220 View Post
    I run 27.5 in front and 650B in the rear, because using just one doesn't work well...you need two wheels.
    Have you tried switching them? My brother in law’s neighbor swears that 650B works better in the front and 27.5 in the rear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by neb636 View Post
    I can’t wait for the 28.25ers take over
    Bring it. LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fluidworks View Post
    No thanks. Feeding the troll isn't very constructive.
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    indeed.
    I diagree...

    Troll-Fighting Tactic #1: Mock Mercilessly
    Troll-Fighting Tactic #2: Cite Real-Life Sources
    Troll-Fighting Tactic #3: Retain Some Humility
    Troll-Fighting Tactic #4: Give ‘em the Snark
    Troll-Fighting Tactic #5: Be Creative
    Troll-Fighting Tactic #6: Feed the Trolls Until They Explode

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    Quote Originally Posted by griz View Post
    Party poopers...over in the NorCal forum, we feed the trolls until they barf
    Yup! #6 often takes a group effort, which is what is great about the Nor Cal forum.


    I prefer #2, then number #4, then #6 and then #5 while doing #1 through all of it.

    For example:

    #2-Cite real life source) I first sighted an article with actual data. He deflected so I replied back with a snark (#4) comment to piss him off. That made him agitated and he called me a name. Win #1

    #4 Give 'em a snark (again) Seeing that I hit nerve, I then rubbed in the fact that I was able to push his buttons by telling him I must have hit a nerve. That pissed him off even more and he sent me neg prop. Win #2

    #6 Feed the troll) I quoted another user, who had called him a troll, and posted that I was able to get PVD to send me a neg prop. I pointed out how satisfying it was to get that neg prop to use as validation PVD had no rebuttal to my point. Win #3

    #5 Get creative) I then sent him a green turd thanking him for the neg prop and recognized that was his way of saying "I give up" to me. He is no longer trolling his own thread. Win #4... Game over.


    My favorite response was from another user who pointed out that PVD has no data to be found. Not one time comparison anywhere, just all opinion stated as absolute scientific fact just because he said it. Not that if some random person's time comparison would hold that much weight; it was the fact he didn't even bother to find out in any defining way if what he thinks is true, is actually true. That was great to point out, as it shows his total lack of the ability to make a solid determination about anything he posted.

    Trolls can be fun when you need to kill some time. Like when your with your in-laws for a week.
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    Now that I think of it, why not show our favoritism like the runners do?
    I see decals for 5k, 10 or 20 k run accomplishments, 13.1 halfs and 26.2 full marathons etc....

    How about a decal for us 27.5 er's !!
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    Quote Originally Posted by griz View Post
    This was started in the NorCal forum by everyone’s favorite know-it-all, PVD...have at it

    http://forums.mtbr.com/california-no...d-1060687.html
    So he wrote an article and put it on his website. Then he linked a post on the forum about it. Of course everyone is too naive to figure out he wrote the article, posted it under his name on the forum and wanted us to think it was a link to an independent third party source. What he lacks in subtlness he makes up for with big balls.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CS2 View Post
    So he wrote an article and put it on his website. Then he linked a post on the forum about it. Of course everyone is too naive to figure out he wrote the article, posted it under his name on the forum and wanted us to think it was a link to an independent third party source. What he lacks in subtlness he makes up for with big balls.
    You know, he's one of the few in the industry that can design a bike properly. He said so himself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IAmHolland View Post
    You know, he's one of the few in the industry that can design a bike properly. He said so himself.
    On his own site I'm sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IAmHolland View Post
    You know, he's one of the few in the industry that can design a bike properly. He said so himself.
    Quote Originally Posted by CS2 View Post
    On his own site I'm sure.
    indubitably so......

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    That's why I went 651b.
    My name is Chris and I ride a Prophet 650b with a Lefty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prophet Julio View Post
    That's why I went 651b.
    by chance will this become a new standard?

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    Quote Originally Posted by singletrackmack View Post
    I diagree...

    Troll-Fighting Tactic #1: Mock Mercilessly
    Troll-Fighting Tactic #2: Cite Real-Life Sources
    Troll-Fighting Tactic #3: Retain Some Humility
    Troll-Fighting Tactic #4: Give ‘em the Snark
    Troll-Fighting Tactic #5: Be Creative
    Troll-Fighting Tactic #6: Feed the Trolls Until They Explode
    I've always liked Tactic 2 in instances of debate or taking on cantankerous emotions and ego.

    My early intro to any type of forums was searching for information and learning more about firearms and motorcycles-m/c safety. Neither subject lends itself well to inaccurate declarations, wrong-spirited opinions or mis-stating facts. Safety is just too paramount in some subjects where there is little to no room for errors and on those sites, ego or self-proclaimed experts means squat.

    Regarding instances where math, physics, geometry or statistics play a big role in cutting through the fog, it's pretty easy to clean up the slag by posting relevant information and citing the origin.
    Sometimes it really slows down the back-n-forth rhythm that the blow-hard's blather on about when it's just for their sake of arguing.
    In many cases, citing a source doesn't always indicate an unbiased viewpoint but at least you have the option of digging into that before you base your response on it.

    For the arrogant drama queens, it's diluting the hostility they like to create and most move on. Others get the message and convert to a more logical way of debate offering sources or at least backing down on emotional responses, sometimes even apologizing for being a buffoon.

    Taunting them for fun might sound deserved but these days it's probably bullying unless it's obvious light-hearted fun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nvphatty View Post
    by chance will this become a new standard?
    70% better rollover and 90% stronger than 29er wheels without all the downsides of those "tiny" 650b's of the past. I checked these numbers with a scientist and they're legit.

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    I kind of want to actually try 26+ if they actually come out with good tires for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by party_wagon View Post
    I kind of want to actually try 26+ if they actually come out with good tires for it.
    the surly DW is one such tire, 26x2.75.

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    Quote Originally Posted by griz View Post
    This was started in the NorCal forum by everyone’s favorite know-it-all, PVD...have at it
    Much as I love Mr O-Ver-Done he is truly the king of self justification. That's a several thousand word article to explain and justify why he bought a new bike, when we all know he just likes having new bikes all the time.

    Also, the dude likes PF92, something ain't quite right there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fix the Spade View Post
    Much as I love Mr O-Ver-Done he is truly the king of self justification. That's a several thousand word article to explain and justify why he bought a new bike, when we all know he just likes having new bikes all the time.

    Also, the dude likes PF92, something ain't quite right there.
    pretty epic in his own mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nvphatty View Post
    the surly DW is one such tire, 26x2.75.
    I want to try something like a surly instigator or jamis dragon with 26 plus rocket Ron as a trail race bike.

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