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    2014 Breezer Repack

    I'm not seeing very much love for this bike, does anyone have one? The steepish head angle is throwing me off a bit compared to other 160mm 27.5 AM bikes in its category, but I really like the bike. The only reviews I have seen on this bike have been back from interbike 2013, doesnt seem like any reviewers have gotten a hold of them since? Help me out with some more info on this bike people!

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    I like the X-Fusion stuff speced on the Expert, and the price and color are nice. I think they went with the 68 head angle to shorten the wheel base.

    He definitely needs to get bikes to the press, as it looks like it's going to be a tough sell since it is his first full suspension bike.

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    This actually started off as the one bike I was interested in. I'd love to see one, but none of the three Breezer dealers anywhere near me have one, or plan to get one for floor stock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigrocks View Post
    I like the X-Fusion stuff speced on the Expert, and the price and color are nice. I think they went with the 68 head angle to shorten the wheel base.

    He definitely needs to get bikes to the press, as it looks like it's going to be a tough sell since it is his first full suspension bike.
    Keep in mind like many other the suspension design was farmed out to a company that has made many. So the design comes from experienced engineers.
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    Have a fealer in Austin with them. They are even doing a free test ride day at a local park soon. Not looking for a new bike, but tempted to check it out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigrocks View Post
    I like the X-Fusion stuff speced on the Expert, and the price and color are nice. I think they went with the 68 head angle to shorten the wheel base.

    He definitely needs to get bikes to the press, as it looks like it's going to be a tough sell since it is his first full suspension bike.

    If you take a look at the Breezer Facebookpage they now have published a review from Mountain Flyer Magazine.

    They have also a new preview from Dirt Rag Magazine, the full test is to be realeased in Dirt Rag Magazine issue # 176.

    I am also stoked on the Expert model, as i have some XT components lying around, i can't see any bike that will give more bang for the bucks in the Enduro segment than the Repack Expert right now.

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    I rode one locally and it climbed like a XC bike and cornered phenomenally. I really really liked the bike and I have a 2013 trance 29er and 2014 anthem 27.5. It out handles my trance and moves like the anthem. The demo bikes are pretty heavy but you would not know it from riding it. I loved this bike. Mine had the XT group drivetrain.

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    Now that's a provocative review. I'm still interested in this bike, but still can't find one to ride. I think that comparison works well for me since my LBS is a Giant dealer and I've ridden most of those bikes. It sounds like maybe this IS the bike I'm looking for.

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    I'm thinking this could be a hell of a bike that goes unnoticed. Everything I've read states how great the pedaling is. And even with that great pedaling, it eats up the chunk.

    I love the spec on the Expert with the X-Fusion suspension and Shimano parts. I just don't love the color. The top two frames look so sharp. Great color schemes. I just am not that into green. Wish you could choose which ever color like some other brands do.

    The one review really explains why it has that head angle, but if you don't like the head angle, I wonder if you could slack it out a bit with an angle set?

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    Those are some long top tubes! 600 mm ETT for the small and they say it's intended for riders up to 5'6"? That's on the long side of what I like and i'm 5'10". Strange design choice when, according to the reviews, the intent was to keep FC and RC (which also isn't very short at 438 mm) as short as possible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by andy f View Post
    Those are some long top tubes! 600 mm ETT for the small and they say it's intended for riders up to 5'6"? That's on the long side of what I like and i'm 5'10". Strange design choice when, according to the reviews, the intent was to keep FC and RC (which also isn't very short at 438 mm) as short as possible.
    That's the new trend, long TT short stem. It's not much longer that a small Kona Process.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TwoTone View Post
    That's the new trend, long TT short stem. It's not much longer that a small Kona Process.
    I'm aware of that but this bike doesn't come with a short stem and the design goal was supposedly to minimize the wheelbase. Those long TT/ultra short stem bikes are intentionally lengthening the wheelbase to improve stability.
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    Got mine last week. First ride I fell off a couple of times because the steering is so much quicker than my 29er that I oversteered coming through turns on singletrack. Six inches one way or another on singletrack can be problematic. Not the bike's fault, I just have to adapt my skills.

    Climbs great, a little heavy but I'll go tubeless pretty soon and drop a little weight. Stock tires and rims are tubeless ready.

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    I picked mine up last week, too. We sell Pivot and Yeti and Trek and Breezer (Endless Cycles - Castro Valley Bicycles), each with an offering or two in the 650b format. I chose the Repack, as it suits my style of riding (super-D, trail). If you want to drop steep chutes, this bike can accommodate, but perhaps one of the other slacker offerings is better in DH-light mode.

    This bike is better suited to carve turns (Think: FLOW), climb and pedal efficiently (absent need for PP, btw) and cover ground through the chop. That's what I like about the bike.

    Here's a short clip of my very first descent on a preproduction Repack earlier this year. I'd been aboard the bike for about 15 minutes in order to climb to the top of Cinderella Trail in Joaquin Miller park, Oakland. It's one of the more DH oriented trails there. We were doing A/B tests between it an a Trek Slash. I was able to catch up pretty quickly, but had to stay back due to the dust; my eyes were killing me from contact/dust issues. No goggles.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlfblntkBrc

    Here's another short clip from the same day, this time going down upper Palos Colorado trail, a mine field of embedded roots at oblique angles, ruts and rocks. I was taking an upper line in hopes of catching/passing the Slash, and was successful.

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    If you're in the SF bay area, Endless Cycles in Castro Valley has one in stock.
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    The wheelbase is within 15 mm of the wheelbase of my S-Works Enduro in 26" wheel format. The difference appears to be in the length of the CS, as the larger wheels do need a bit more room to translate through the suspension arc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TwoTone View Post
    That's the new trend, long TT short stem. It's not much longer that a small Kona Process.
    It's funny how that trend is cycling around again.....Gary Fisher started that with Genesis Geometry in 2000 with the Sugar. I personally like long top tubes and short stems. There are a lot of bikes I would like to try but XL frames with 24.4" top tubes just do not work for me......especially when they have a 67 - 68 degree head tube.

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    I've had my new Repack Team Medium (I'm 5'11") since April and get about 3-4 rides a week on it. I ride in the PNW (Seattle area) and have taken a trip down to San Luis Obispo with it. PNW is like BC (trees, loamy and muddy soils, roots, lumber bridges). My time in SLO was on either loose over hard or well packed, dry, clay soils.
    The climbing prowess of this bike cannot be overstated. I can throw out 26 years of climbing technique when riding this bike and it still stays glued to the ground. The only exception to this is that the stock Nobby Nics suck in the wet PNW soils I ride (they were very good in SLO). I switched to WTB Vigilantes (the original tire spec'ed for this bike) and fixed that problem (I've ran both the Nics and the WTBs tubeless with Orange Seal). I also swapped the grips for WTB Moto grips because the originals don't grip enough in the wet (but were fine in the dry). This bike is heavier than my old 26" Stumpy FSR, but my Strava times have dropped across the board. I expected this with the descents, but not the climbs. Why? 27.5 vs 26? M-Link vs Horst? . . . I don't know, but I'm posting faster times on climbs with this heavier bike.
    One of my biggest surprises was how insanely well this bike did in a fast technical rock garden decent (in SLO on Madonna MT). I kept laughing because whenever it seemed like I was screwed and was about to eat it, I was able to pilot this bike out of trouble. This bike rewards you for pushing it a little further. Every time I come into a corner a little harder, with a little less brake I'm shocked at how well it handles. I'm sure there's gonna be a big "oh crap" moment when I finally take it too far, but so far the bike has been very forgiving when I do over cook a corner (first day in SLO I lost a little skin when the front end washed out).
    After SLO I swapped the 70mm stem for a 45mm. I did this because I washed the front end out a couple of times in the wet (PNW). I got the WTB tires shortly there after so I can't accurately comment on how well the new stem helped (if at all) with the front end. The new tires have been amazing. Either way, I no longer have a wash out issue.
    I put a Giant Contact switch dropper post on about a month ago. It works. I don't have an issue with the lack of internal routing for the dropper post. As a former bike mechanic (I always cringe when somebody types those word) I've never been a fan of internally routed cables. The routing for the post was simple and I've had no issues with it.
    Lastly, the full XT kit is amazing. Especially the brakes, and the shifters, and the hubs and the derailleurs . . . all of it.
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    In 1978 Joe Breeze made me one of the first real mountain bikes. This bike is now known as "Breezer #2." It resides in the MTB Hall of Fame.

    Here I am with Joe and the bike, which recently returned to Fairfax with the rest of the HoF collection.

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    Here I am with Joe and my new Breezer Repack bike. We are both wearing t=shirts featuring race posters from the real Repack races in 1978.

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    Oh man, that's seriously cool. The bikes. The pictures. The shirts. The man. Thanks for sharing. It means a lot to a guy who watched as a kid growing up on the east coast as all this stuff was happening to see history like the first picture, and to see the second picture and know, yeah, I can keep doing this as long as I want to.

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    Thanks for sharing the pics, the bikes, the history, and the knowledge, RR.
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    Love my repack pro. Climbs like a champ xc bike and going downhill is still a blast with it.

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    This is the first time I've heard of Breezer Bikes. Glad you posted this. Nice looking bikes, and the prices seem very reasonable. I hope to hear more details about how the bikes ride. Those are nice trails shown in the videos.

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    I want one of these but i wish it was a 140mm travel bike not 160. I might wait and see if they make and trail/all mountain version of the bike. It is this or a Transition Bandit 27.5 or Santa Cruz 5010, all of which I can pro deal through my work. I will just wait it out and see what else comes along.

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    Why would you want it in 140? These shocks on trail or climb along with the engineering of the frame keep the bike planted and it does not bob on the pedal stroke at all.

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    It is just too much travel for my needs. Nothing wrong with their engineering.

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    Just ordered the Repack Expert! Looking forward to this thing in a big way.
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    Bike has been assembled and my first impression was that the bike seems big! I have to admit that the top tube, bars, and seat height were a bit intimidating at first. Then again, I had gotten so used to my very old and outdated 26er geometry.

    I'm 5'8" and went with the recommended Medium size. During fitting, I had LBS cut down the seat post a bit, and I also ended up installing a shorter stem. Ready to rock this thing on the trails now - too bad it's supposed to rain all day Saturday!

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    nice bike, i like the reviews

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    For those who own or have ridden the Repack I would like some size advice. I'm 5'11" with average (32") inseam. Would the appropriate size for me be a medium or large? I can't find a size chart. Thanks!

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    I am about your size at 5'10ish and I bought a Medium. The bike seems big, and have wondered if a Small would have been a good choice. A large is clearly too big for you at 5'11".
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    Quote Originally Posted by scooderdude View Post
    I am about your size at 5'10ish and I bought a Medium. The bike seems big, and have wondered if a Small would have been a good choice. A large is clearly too big for you at 5'11".
    Thanks!

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    For what it's worth, here's the Geo chart that I went by when ordering.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rdub315 View Post
    For what it's worth, here's the Geo chart that I went by when ordering.

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    Quote Originally Posted by THE MONGOOSE View Post
    Thanks! Have you already received your bike?
    Yep - see post# 29 above.

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    So I just pulled the trigger on one of these off of price point. Got the expert version for $1700 and some change so couldn't pass it up.

    That said how are you guys liking them after a couple months in?

    I agonized over which size to get and ended up going with a medium. I'm 5'10 with short 30" inseam and long torso so hopefully it'll fit good. I'm coming off a KHS XCT 536 which has a 595mm TT so I thought 615mm would be ok especially with shorter stem.

    Anyway I'm super excited to get this thing. I ride mainly trail but am looking at getting into some super D and light enduro for fun and it looks like this bike will be the ticket.

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    Coghog - Nice score on the Repack. I'm sure you'll be pleased with it. At 5'10" I think you made the right choice on the medium. I'm 5'8" and I'm comfortable on a medium, especially after installing a shorter stem and cutting the bars down a bit. The more I ride it, the more I love it.

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    If I didn't get a killer deal on my carbon Sensor expert, I would have bought the exact same bike you just did. Great deal and I really like the XFusion suspension. Never got to ride a Repack, but it looks great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rdub315 View Post
    Coghog - Nice score on the Repack. I'm sure you'll be pleased with it. At 5'10" I think you made the right choice on the medium. I'm 5'8" and I'm comfortable on a medium, especially after installing a shorter stem and cutting the bars down a bit. The more I ride it, the more I love it.
    Thanks man that's good to hear.

    I'm giddy over getting this thing, gonna be a good Christmas for yours truly this year!

    I've got some renthal fatbars I cut to 740 and a truvativ holzfeller 60mm stem I'm gonna put on it. I'm also contemplating going to 1x10 too but I'm gonna wait and see if I need the extra gears first for climbs.

    I'm sure I'll add some other stuff too like a dropper post but that'll have to wait just a bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by richulr View Post
    If I didn't get a killer deal on my carbon Sensor expert, I would have bought the exact same bike you just did. Great deal and I really like the XFusion suspension. Never got to ride a Repack, but it looks great.
    Those sensors look killer too.

    In all honesty I've actually never ridden a repack either so I'm taking a chance. That said the geo is pretty close to what I'm already used to and I did a ton of research before I decided to buy it so I feel good about it and don't think I'll have any issues.

    First time buying a bike online too but the deal was just too good to pass up. I figure no guts no glory and I have a feeling this thing's gonna be glorious.

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    From what I've read you're going to love it. The suspension is supposed to climb very well with no platform. That's what attracted me to the bike.

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    I picked up a Repack Pro and got the online vendor to price match. With no tax and free shipping (with a small fee for oversized packaging) it came to ~ $2300 shipped to my door.

    I took it on it's maiden voyage yesterday at a really rocky and technical trail and it performed amazingly! I've yet to take it up a long, extended climb, but so far so good. I'm about 5'10.5" and the medium fits really good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jasone510 View Post
    I picked up a Repack Pro and got the online vendor to price match. With no tax and free shipping (with a small fee for oversized packaging) it came to ~ $2300 shipped to my door.

    I took it on it's maiden voyage yesterday at a really rocky and technical trail and it performed amazingly! I've yet to take it up a long, extended climb, but so far so good. I'm about 5'10.5" and the medium fits really good.
    That's awesome to hear.

    I'm feeling even better bout the medium and can't wait for this thing to arrive.

    I decided to keep my holzfeller stem on my KHS and went ahead and bought an Easton havoc 50mm to put on the repack. As far as the bars I'll either keep the ritchey trail bars since I've heard they're good, put my renthal fatbars on there, or throw some raceface atlas green monsters on there if the green matches since I think they'd look killer.

    Anyway hopefully it'll be here by Friday so I can get it put together. I'll shoot some pics once I do.

    In the meantime happy riding and thanks for the replies guys!

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    Another question for you guys that already have your repacks and have ridden them.

    I was reading that chainslap can be an issue on the drive side. Any of you guys experiencing that any more than usual?

    Also does the frame come with any kind of protector? I usually just do the old tube routine since it works but didn't know if that'd be an issue with this particular frame since the pivot is in the middle of the stay.

    Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CogHog View Post
    Another question for you guys that already have your repacks and have ridden them.

    I was reading that chainslap can be an issue on the drive side. Any of you guys experiencing that any more than usual?

    Also does the frame come with any kind of protector? I usually just do the old tube routine since it works but didn't know if that'd be an issue with this particular frame since the pivot is in the middle of the stay.

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    Haven't noticed this at all, as there is a rubbery frame protector that is designed to fit nicely over the stay and pivot area.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rdub315 View Post
    Haven't noticed this at all, as there is a rubbery frame protector that is designed to fit nicely over the stay and pivot area.
    Oh ok cool.

    I thought I saw where it had that but didn't see it in any of the pics of the frame.

    That solves that, thanks.

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    Now you guys need to ride up Pine Mountain and then down Repack to see what your bike was named for - it's a thrill ride to say the least!

    And big shout out to Charlie!

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    Quote Originally Posted by matuchi View Post
    Now you guys need to ride up Pine Mountain and then down Repack to see what your bike was named for - it's a thrill ride to say the least!

    And big shout out to Charlie!
    Really want to do this, but wrong coast!!!

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    Too bad - it's really a blast!

    Below is the calm before the storm - it starts out like this and then the bottom drops out. It never gets old or easy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rdub315 View Post
    Really want to do this, but wrong coast!!!
    Ha I'm out too.

    I'm in NW Arkansas so land locked right in the middle.

    Heck I've never even been to Cali but hope to one day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by matuchi View Post
    Too bad - it's really a blast!

    Below is the calm before the storm - it starts out like this and then the bottom drops out. It never gets old or easy.

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    Would love to give that run a try.

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    So took the repack out today for its maiden voyage and must say I think I'm really gonna like this bike. Will have to tweak the cockpit a bit since I threw a 50mm stem on it and my seat was a bit to close so I'll have to slide it back a bit but that was my fault not the bikes.

    I will say it's a bit heavy but I didn't really notice it except on the slow steady climbs but to be honest that's likely as much my riding shape as they sucked on the 26er I'm coming off too which was lighter and it was only a slight difference.

    Now for the good and it's almost all good. This thing kills on the downhill. It's stable but still a ton of fun. Places where I felt a bit sketchy on my KHS XCT were no problem with this thing whether it be loose over hard pack with washout areas abound or rocky, rooty sections with lots of chatter it ate it all up. It even did really well on tight twisty single track and short, punchy, and rocky climbs.

    It flows well, handles well and just plain rips. Another bonus is the suspension. I experienced no pedal bob. None. In fact I never touched the PP on the shock the whole ride. It stayed glued to the trail and was extremely efficient in the pedaling overall which I didn't expect for a 160mm bike.

    Lastly coming off a 26er the benefits of a 27.5 tire was readily apparent. I just didn't have to work the bike as much to get it up and over stuff like I did with the 26er and I'm happy I switched.

    So overall this thing just works. The only downside is the weight but with a couple tweaks here and there that can be remedied a bit, but it's something I'm happy to live with. For an overall all mountain/trail bike this thing would be hard to beat and does most everything well from my limited experience and I love it so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by danmtchl View Post
    I want one of these but i wish it was a 140mm travel bike not 160. I might wait and see if they make and trail/all mountain version of the bike. It is this or a Transition Bandit 27.5 or Santa Cruz 5010, all of which I can pro deal through my work. I will just wait it out and see what else comes along.
    The forks are adjustable down to 120mm

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    Got my Repack Expert last week and finally started to ride it this week (Had to make some adjustments since I purchased online from PricePoint) This bike climbs like no other. Took me a bit to get the rebound adjusted, but once you do this bike rocks it.

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    I just finished up my build last week. I only have one ride in so I can't give an accurate ride report yet but will follow up within the next week or two. I pretty much stripped the bike down to the frame and fork and upgraded everything else with parts from another bike. The stock bike weighed about 32.5 lbs and I have mine down to 28.5 lbs. Not bad at all for a heavy aluminum frame and 160mm travel

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    Quote Originally Posted by wu501 View Post
    I just finished up my build last week. I only have one ride in so I can't give an accurate ride report yet but will follow up within the next week or two. I pretty much stripped the bike down to the frame and fork and upgraded everything else with parts from another bike. The stock bike weighed about 32.5 lbs and I have mine down to 28.5 lbs. Not bad at all for a heavy aluminum frame and 160mm travel
    Nice weight loss, what's the build list?

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    Just a quick update. I've had my repack since December riding about 1-2 times a week on it and could not be happier. It's just a great bike.

    I'm still amazed at how well this thing climbs given it's travel and it's capabilities downhill as well.

    The only upgrades so far are an Easton havoc 50mm stem, raceface green monster handlebars, grips, some raceface crank protectors, and a marsh guard to help keep the crud from flinging up in my face.

    Hopefully soon I'm gonna upgrade to tubeless and am toying around with the idea of going 1x10 if I can find a way to keep the gearing I want.

    Also will add a dropper post eventually too.

    Anyway I'm continuing to love this thing and all that it allows me to do out on the trails.

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    I LOVE my Repack Pro. Coming from a xc 29er, this thing just blows it away on the downhills.

    I've added a Raceface Atlas 50mm stem, Wolftooth 42t, Wolftooth goatlink, 30t Raceface narrow wide chain ring, MRP decapitator direct mount cover, and a reverb dropper post.

    As it stands I am extremely happy with the bike's performance. I am toying with the idea of adding a set of offset bushings to get the head angle to 67 degrees.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jasone510 View Post
    I LOVE my Repack Pro. Coming from a xc 29er, this thing just blows it away on the downhills.

    I've added a Raceface Atlas 50mm stem, Wolftooth 42t, Wolftooth goatlink, 30t Raceface narrow wide chain ring, MRP decapitator direct mount cover, and a reverb dropper post.

    As it stands I am extremely happy with the bike's performance. I am toying with the idea of adding a set of offset bushings to get the head angle to 67 degrees.
    I actually had the same thought on the offset for the HT angle. If you decide to do it let us know what you think.

    Also how are you liking the wolf tooth components? I was thinking of doing the same thing but can't decide to go wolf tooth goatlink or oneup rad cage with the 42t and a 30t narrow wide up front.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CogHog View Post
    I actually had the same thought on the offset for the HT angle. If you decide to do it let us know what you think.

    Also how are you liking the wolf tooth components? I was thinking of doing the same thing but can't decide to go wolf tooth goatlink or oneup rad cage with the 42t and a 30t narrow wide up front.
    I picked up the bushings, I'll provide feedback once I get them and get a few rides in.

    Regarding the 42t. Without the goatlink down shifting towards the middle of the cassette sucked. With the goatlink it shifts fine. Not as good as stock, but good enough that it doesn't bother me anymore. It shifts in and out of every cog just fine now. The b-screw is no longer fully screwed in, it's about halfway. It's a lot cheaper than the rad cage. If you have a long cage shimano, you still need to buy the other half of the cage, the Rad is a mid cage and only replaces one side. Saves quite a bit of change going with the goat link.

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    Nice weight loss, what's the build list?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jasone510 View Post
    I picked up the bushings, I'll provide feedback once I get them and get a few rides in.

    Regarding the 42t. Without the goatlink down shifting towards the middle of the cassette sucked. With the goatlink it shifts fine. Not as good as stock, but good enough that it doesn't bother me anymore. It shifts in and out of every cog just fine now. The b-screw is no longer fully screwed in, it's about halfway. It's a lot cheaper than the rad cage. If you have a long cage shimano, you still need to buy the other half of the cage, the Rad is a mid cage and only replaces one side. Saves quite a bit of change going with the goat link.
    Awesome that's kinda what I was thinking.

    Looks like I'll be doing to the same mod in the near future for my 1x setup too.

    Thanks for the info!

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    rdub315, I am also 5'8" and wanted to clarify a few things:
    • What stem length and make did you install?
    • Why did you have to shorten the seat post? Could it not drop far enough?
    • Did you just cut the stock handlebars or install a new one? What length do you have now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aliby View Post
    rdub315, I am also 5'8" and wanted to clarify a few things:
    • What stem length and make did you install?
    • Why did you have to shorten the seat post? Could it not drop far enough?
    • Did you just cut the stock handlebars or install a new one? What length do you have now.
    I got the Easton Havoc stem in 50mm. I ordered this after reading another review by someone who test rode the bike and recommended a shorter stem, but honestly after a bunch of rides I don't think I really needed it.

    Correct on the post - had to cut it because it didn't drop far enough.

    Yes, I took 3/4" off each end of the stock bars and I think they're perfect now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jasone510 View Post
    I am toying with the idea of adding a set of offset bushings to get the head angle to 67 degrees.
    What are these bushings you refer to?
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    Quote Originally Posted by scooderdude View Post
    What are these bushings you refer to?
    Probably these: Works Components - Angle Headsets to fit Most Frame Types & CNC Bicycle Components Proudly Made in the UK

    That is a really fun bike, but the HTA is too steep for it's class (imo). Taking a couple degrees out of it would probably be a good idea.

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    As I understand, an off-set HS is not an option because the Repack employs an integrated headset design, where the bearing race is integral to the inside of the head tube. I looked into this solution earlier and was informed of this by Cane Creek. But maybe there's a new engineering solution produced in the last few months to counter this.
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    Wwhat bike rack do you have in your photo? I think tray style mounts are the way to go and this looks great!

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    Quote Originally Posted by scooderdude View Post
    What are these bushings you refer to?
    Offset bushings have been around for a long time. They replace the bushings in the rear shock mounts. It increases eye to eye length and therefore pushes the frame into its travel slightly which slackens the head angle. Check out offsetbushings.com, they have a good explanation.

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    Has anyone tried the offset bushings yet?

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    Repack Team on sale at Price Point for $2200. XT level build.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeffw-13 View Post
    Repack Team on sale at Price Point for $2200. XT level build.

    2014 Breezer Repack Team | 650b
    I got my XL at that price....jumped on it as soon as I saw it dropped in price. I had been looking at the the Pro level bike and then they dropped the team to the same price. Ordered it that day...looks like they only have Small left though. I love my Repack so if you can fit a small I don't think you can find a better deal out there right now. Only thing mine needs is a shorter stem. The 90mm is a little long and puts more weight on the front than I like. Other than that I can't say enough good things about the Repack.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jasone510 View Post
    Offset bushings have been around for a long time. They replace the bushings in the rear shock mounts. It increases eye to eye length and therefore pushes the frame into its travel slightly which slackens the head angle. Check out offsetbushings.com, they have a good explanation.
    Close! Offset Bushings reduce the eye to eye length, which drops the frame a tad to slacken the head angle and lower the BB.

    If you have any questions please get in touch with us at Offsetbushings.com and we'll get you sorted out!

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    Yeah that's the funny thing...the pro is the same price but lower spec build.

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    The price went down on the Team when they only had XL and S sizes left which I assume are less popular and harder to sell. The pro model had all the popular sizes so not as much of a discount.

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    Hi - can anyone help me with sizing? I'm considering a Repack for my wife - upgrade her old hard tail so she can enjoy MTB again.

    She is 5'8", about 140 lbs, her arms are on the longish side, and I'd say her inseam is about 31". From the company sizing charts it seems like the Medium would be the choice for her, but I think it's possible the small might work - and maybe be better. Plus if the small works I'd get the Team version from Pricepoint. If she needs a medium I'd go with the Expert.

    Her riding style is that she is cautious - she gets intimidated by the roots and rocks here in the Northeast. She's a pretty solid rider though, and we do quite a bit of road biking. She took a bad fall from her road bike last year - long story but basically we were riding into the rising sun and couldn't see a big pothole that was in shade - she broke two ribs and separated her shoulder.

    Anyway…she won't be bombing like crazy or whipping the bike around - as I said she will be on the cautious side, if that makes any difference in sizing.

    Thanks.

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    bump - hoping for some input on my post above on sizing. Leaning toward the medium - I"m concerned the stack on the small will be a problem. If the reach on hte medium is a bit long I can rectify with a shorter stem.

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    I am 6'2 which put me at XL on their size chart and I found it to be very accurate as the bike fits me quite well. Whether or not that holds up on the other sizes I can't say. I am going to go with a shorter stem though to get my weight back a bit. Mine came with a 90mm.

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    I got a medium and it fits me ok (5'8"). However, I started with the seat as far down as the post would go and have since raised it 1" above the lowest point (great for riding, but you get off the seat to put your feet down). As I intend to get a dropper post it will be fine, but at the moment I can't drop the seat much below normal for tech descents. So based on my experience, I expect a small frame may be better for her. Else budget for a 75mm travel dropper from the start. (The only good one I know is the KS Supernatural Seatpost-R 75mm)

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    I also have a medium Repack which fits me perfect. I'm 5'10 with a 30" inseam so I have short legs but a long torso. Anyway I threw a 50mm stem on it and some 760mm bars and the thing rocks! Hope that helps.

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    Pulled the trigger a week ago on the Medium. Got it this past Saturday and put it together and stowed it in a neighbor's garage until my wife's b-day next Sat.

    Not sure about the size. May have to get a shorter stem. Can't really know until she's on it. If it's too big, I'll just have to keep it for myself and get her a small !

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    Picked one up yesterday! Last one I know of around the Front Range.

    This will be my first modern proper mountain bike. I've been tooling around on local trails with my dirt jumper, but obviously pedaling any distance on that guy just plain sucks. I've been in the market off and on for the better part of the last two years, but always found an excuse not to shell out the $$$.

    Heading over to Alderfer/Three Sisters now.

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    I put my first ride on my Repack last night. I'm 5'9" with 32" inseam and the bike fits great. I'm coming of a 29er HT. The Repack feels awesome compared to my HT. It should fit your wife great.

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    Got back from Alderfer and loved the bike. I'd rented a 29er Santa Cruz Tallboy and a 650B Santa Cruz 5010 just to try out 29 vs. 27.5 since I'd never ridden a 27.5 and definitely like the 5010 more, but that bike didn't climb well at all. My rusty skills provided it no assistance. The Repack climbs infinitely better.

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    5'8" with 29" inseam and 31" sleeve. Small or Medium?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RSMBiker View Post
    5'8" with 29" inseam and 31" sleeve. Small or Medium?
    IMO, a medium.

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    So these offset bushings...anyone try them yet?

    Would like to slacken out my Breezer a bit just to see what it feels like and doesn't seem like an angleset is an option due to the integrated HS.

    The offset bushings seems like a cheaper option but didn't know if anyone has tried them yet to see if they work in terms of clearance, etc.

    Don't wanna jack up my bike since I love it as is but just curious if slackening it to say 67 will make it even more awesome.

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    I want to try them on bike. I was able to message with a guy about them that had used them on his repack and this is what he wrote:

    "No issues with rubbing, I've bottomed out the suspension and there weren't any clearance issues. The ride is fine, wanders slightly more uphill. I feel more confident on the downhill chunk and steep sections, but that could be the placebo effect. Would I do it again? Probably not, the difference wasn't as noticeable as I thought it would be, but again I don't push the bike anywhere near it's limits so YMMV."

    I definitely want to try them. I think it's around $30 for a pair of them so you aren't out much if you don't like it for some reason. I think they would be a plus and don't really see any downside to them especially for the type of riding I do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NoMountainsBiker View Post
    I want to try them on bike. I was able to message with a guy about them that had used them on his repack and this is what he wrote:

    "No issues with rubbing, I've bottomed out the suspension and there weren't any clearance issues. The ride is fine, wanders slightly more uphill. I feel more confident on the downhill chunk and steep sections, but that could be the placebo effect. Would I do it again? Probably not, the difference wasn't as noticeable as I thought it would be, but again I don't push the bike anywhere near it's limits so YMMV."

    I definitely want to try them. I think it's around $30 for a pair of them so you aren't out much if you don't like it for some reason. I think they would be a plus and don't really see any downside to them especially for the type of riding I do.
    That's awesone and exactly what I was hoping to hear. Thanks!

    I'm definitely gonna give em a shot since $30 is worth the gamble to me.

    I've personally never ridden anything any slacker than 68 but I'm beginning to push harder on descents now and just curious if a degree to degree and a half will make that big of a difference.

    Any particular place better for buying them from?

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    I have seen Offsetbushings.com - Standard & Offset bicycle shock hardware ? Offset Bushings | Shock Mounting Hardware recommended. That is probably where I will order mine from.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NoMountainsBiker View Post
    I have seen Offsetbushings.com - Standard & Offset bicycle shock hardware ? Offset Bushings | Shock Mounting Hardware recommended. That is probably where I will order mine from.
    Awesome I was just checking out their site.

    Definitely ordering some today and will post back once I've gotten them installed and had a couple rides to see what I think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CogHog View Post
    Awesome I was just checking out their site.

    Definitely ordering some today and will post back once I've gotten them installed and had a couple rides to see what I think.
    Gotta figure out what size bushing now though on my X Fusion O2 RLX shock.

    I emailed that company hoping they might have an idea what I might need.

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    If they don't you can get a cheap pair of digital calipers at harbour freight and measure them yourself. I have a set and they come in handy for a lot of things.

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    Yeah I'll just do that if they don't know what size I need.

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    So just an update. Got an email back and they're not sure which hardware is on my Breezer repack. He said he thought it was standard 22mm hardware but he wasn't sure which bolt diameter. So I ordered some digital calipers that arrived yesterday and will check the size of everything this weekend so I can place my order Monday. I'll post back once I get them installed and get a ride in to let everyone know what I think.

    Also on another note just saw the new Fuji auric that's coming out and man that bike looks sweet. Seems to have everything the Repack does but lighter, slacker, and has internal cable routing. Also has the ability to put in an angle set too so might be looking at a frame swap later down the road, maybe. If these bushings work out I'm not sure if it'd be worth it since I can drop weight on my breezer by swapping out the wheel set and the bushings will put the geo just as slack as the Fuji. Ah decisions, decisions. Would have to get a good deal on the frame to make it worth it I guess IF they'll frame it out in the first place, just thinking out loud.

    Happy riding in the meantime!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RSMBiker View Post
    5'8" with 29" inseam and 31" sleeve. Small or Medium?
    My suggestion is a Small. At 5'10" and 32" inseam I'm on a Medium, but if I were to do it again I would choose a Small. I put a 50mm Point-1 Split Tail stem on it to shorten the cockpit and that has made a world of difference, but the smaller frame would have been an improvement, too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoMountainsBiker View Post
    I want to try them on bike. I was able to message with a guy about them that had used them on his repack and this is what he wrote:

    "No issues with rubbing, I've bottomed out the suspension and there weren't any clearance issues. The ride is fine, wanders slightly more uphill. I feel more confident on the downhill chunk and steep sections, but that could be the placebo effect. Would I do it again? Probably not, the difference wasn't as noticeable as I thought it would be, but again I don't push the bike anywhere near it's limits so YMMV."

    I definitely want to try them. I think it's around $30 for a pair of them so you aren't out much if you don't like it for some reason. I think they would be a plus and don't really see any downside to them especially for the type of riding I do.
    My thoughts are you would get the same or greater benefit by just inducing a few more mm of sag. On the other hand, installing a Fox 36 Float RC2 would likely do the trick due to longer a-c distance. There's your extra degree or more of slack.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scooderdude View Post
    My thoughts are you would get the same or greater benefit by just inducing a few more mm of sag. On the other hand, installing a Fox 36 Float RC2 would likely do the trick due to longer a-c distance. There's your extra degree or more of slack.
    Not sure increasing sag will give the same effect since it wouldn't make a permanent set point like the bushings would since it would vary depending on how weighted the rear suspension was.

    Also increasing the sag wouldn't be an option for me I don't think since I'm already close to bottoming out the rear suspension on 3 1/2 foot drops at 185 psi in my rear shock at a BW of 205lbs. Any lower and I think I'll be bottoming out for sure, especially since I'm planning to tackle bigger obstacles down the road.

    The change in fork on the other hand might work but at like 25 times the cost of a pair of $30 offset bushings.

    For now I think I'll try the bushings first then tweak from there if need be. Quite honestly I'm not sure I even need a much slacker angle anyway but I'd like to try it out without dropping a lot to do so.

    That's what makes the bushings a valid option, for me at least.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scooderdude View Post
    My suggestion is a Small. At 5'10" and 32" inseam I'm on a Medium, but if I were to do it again I would choose a Small. I put a 50mm Point-1 Split Tail stem on it to shorten the cockpit and that has made a world of difference, but the smaller frame would have been an improvement, too.
    Thanks! I went forward with the deal on bike which was only available in a Small. It actually fits fine with a stock stem.

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    Anyone else experiencing bottom bracket creak?

    Mine after 8 months or so of riding, through one hard and muddy winter, is creaking like crazy under load and is driving me crazy in the process.

    I'm gonna take it to get it seviced but if I can't get it sorted out I'm gonna be getting rid of this frame, no matter how much I love it.

    It's that bad.

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    No creak from mine but I've only been out in the wet a few times. Good luck with yours. I hope you can get it sorted out.

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    Creaks from the bottom bracket area are usually the bottom bracket needing service or replacing. Why would you toss the baby with the bath water? Take it to a bike shop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scooderdude View Post
    Creaks from the bottom bracket area are usually the bottom bracket needing service or replacing. Why would you toss the baby with the bath water? Take it to a bike shop.
    No I'm definitely going to, taking it today actually.

    I won't give up on it immediately but if this continues I will. This is my first PF bottom bracket and I've never had a bike creak like this, ever.

    My other bikes were threaded and if it started creaking I'd just tighten it up or take it out, regrease it and good. With this one I can't do it myself because I don't have the tools.

    If I've gotta replace one bottom bracket every 8 months or so to keep it quite I'm good with that because I ride hard but if I can't get her to be quite I'm going back to a threaded BB.

    Other things too like HT angle and inability to do an angleset are annoying too but I'm hoping to get these bushings soon to try them.

    Right now this creaking is really pissing me off though. I'd expect it from a huffy, not a bike that retails for almost 3k.

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    Did anyone follow through with the offset bushings??? I'm really curious if I should get some for myself.

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    I've been rockin a '14 Breezer Repack since May of this year and have been putting it through it's paces on a regular basis. Other than a seat change, bike is as I bought it from Pricepoint (for a killer price).

    Don't feel like typing too much so I'll keep it a simply pro/cons list.

    Pros:
    -Climbing ability....it is not just hype, it honestly does climb extremely well.
    -Front end is super stout and strong.
    -XT Components and Fox suspension, all works excellent (especially the XT brakes....long time Hayes fan, I like XT's better)
    -Excellent handling....my first 27.5", was concerned about tight stuff, no issues.
    -Excellent reliability....I've put on probably in the high-hundreds trail miles since opening the box, no creaks, no sloppiness, no bearing issues. Except for the forks, maintenance has been low.

    Cons:
    -Heavy. While it rides great for it's weight, I begin to feel it when out on a long multi-hour ride. Climbing ability hides its weight well.
    -Not the best decender. For a 6" bike, you expect to bomb down almost anything, but little sketchy when super bumpy and super fast. Need to pick good lines when going down.
    -Long TT for it's size. It's a good thing and bad thing....good, cause it helps inspire a little more confidence when going down fast (cause you need it due to issue pointed out above), but if you have a small torso or arms, the long TT maybe an issue. Could not recommend a stem any shorter than 70mm due to decending ability.

    With all that said, I really really like the bike. It's a super stout frame that will take a beating, XT components rocks, along with the Fox suspenders. It probably wouldn't make the best pick for enduro racing, but a reliable, long-stemmed trail bike, short rides, long rides, tight, loose, up or down....works excellent for me. And for the price/performance value....extremely hard to beat.

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    Ya I actually have a repack and was just wondering about the offset bushings because I am really disappointed how this thing desends

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    Can any of you Repack owners tell me the head tube diameters of this bike? I've got a Pushed 150mm 34 Float I plan to install on this bike once it arrives and I'd like to order a adjustable angle headset to make up for the change in HA with my 10mm shorter fork. Thanks in advance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by damnitzhym View Post
    Can any of you Repack owners tell me the head tube diameters of this bike? I've got a Pushed 150mm 34 Float I plan to install on this bike once it arrives and I'd like to order a adjustable angle headset to make up for the change in HA with my 10mm shorter fork. Thanks in advance.
    Hey man sorry to let you down but there is no way you can get an angled headset, I've tried everything for mine... I've finally sucked it up and I have to save for a nomad frame...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Austinmason View Post
    Hey man sorry to let you down but there is no way you can get an angled headset, I've tried everything for mine... I've finally sucked it up and I have to save for a nomad frame...
    Ya i found out also, not compatable with any angleset. Thats a bit of a let down.
    So i used offset bushings. Frame space allowed this with trail boss tires
    I have a 2015 supercell xl
    The mods are as follows
    Renthal 780 bars w riser
    Renthal apex 50 mm stem
    140 mm fox fork , i noticed the original fork angled in for a steeper setup, the 140 ened up a bit more slacker
    34t rf chainring
    Shimano zee m820 ss rear d
    E13 chain guide
    Elite dropper
    Two lizard skins jumbo
    This combo has gotten this bike to a 68 ha
    This is enough for now, maybe next year i will sell the frame and swap for something more adjustable. However i am 6'2 @ 195 nude
    I have to say i do enjoy the ride tho. Its a bit pro front end buts thats ok for now. I came from a hardtail and it was such a difference that i cant say anything bad.
    The biggest gripe is my weight.
    I feel heavier riders dont get as plush as a ride as lighter riders get. Peeps say it balances out but.....
    Going to the zee rear s was question 20 speed drive train was just too sloppy.
    My queation is, with this config what frame can i move to ? Later on

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    Quote Originally Posted by mjs1231 View Post
    Ya i found out also, not compatable with any angleset. Thats a bit of a let down.
    So i used offset bushings. Frame space allowed this with trail boss tires
    I have a 2015 supercell xl
    The mods are as follows
    Renthal 780 bars w riser
    Renthal apex 50 mm stem
    140 mm fox fork , i noticed the original fork angled in for a steeper setup, the 140 ened up a bit more slacker
    34t rf chainring
    Shimano zee m820 ss rear d
    E13 chain guide
    Elite dropper
    Two lizard skins jumbo
    This combo has gotten this bike to a 68 ha
    This is enough for now, maybe next year i will sell the frame and swap for something more adjustable. However i am 6'2 @ 195 nude
    I have to say i do enjoy the ride tho. Its a bit pro front end buts thats ok for now. I came from a hardtail and it was such a difference that i cant say anything bad.
    The biggest gripe is my weight.
    I feel heavier riders dont get as plush as a ride as lighter riders get. Peeps say it balances out but.....
    Going to the zee rear s was question 20 speed drive train was just too sloppy.
    My queation is, with this config what frame can i move to ? Later on
    Haha I just bought a carbon giant reign frame yesterday, finally glad I'm getting rid of the breezer... The giant has a 65 head angle and a 1217 wheelbase so this thing is gonna wreck all the downhills

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    Quote Originally Posted by mjs1231 View Post
    Ya i found out also, not compatable with any angleset. Thats a bit of a let down.
    So i used offset bushings. Frame space allowed this with trail boss tires
    I have a 2015 supercell xl
    The mods are as follows
    Renthal 780 bars w riser
    Renthal apex 50 mm stem
    140 mm fox fork , i noticed the original fork angled in for a steeper setup, the 140 ened up a bit more slacker
    34t rf chainring
    Shimano zee m820 ss rear d
    E13 chain guide
    Elite dropper
    Two lizard skins jumbo
    This combo has gotten this bike to a 68 ha
    This is enough for now, maybe next year i will sell the frame and swap for something more adjustable. However i am 6'2 @ 195 nude
    I have to say i do enjoy the ride tho. Its a bit pro front end buts thats ok for now. I came from a hardtail and it was such a difference that i cant say anything bad.
    The biggest gripe is my weight.
    I feel heavier riders dont get as plush as a ride as lighter riders get. Peeps say it balances out but.....
    Going to the zee rear s was question 20 speed drive train was just too sloppy.
    My queation is, with this config what frame can i move to ? Later on
    How about this one? Niner WFO 9 Frame | 150mm CVA travel | 29r | Enduro

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    Quote Originally Posted by Austinmason View Post
    Hey man sorry to let you down but there is no way you can get an angled headset, I've tried everything for mine... I've finally sucked it up and I have to save for a nomad frame...
    It turns out my Float can be extended to 160mm so at least my HA won't be any steeper than 68*. Thanks for the response
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    I had an epiphany a couple of months ago when I had my Repack side-by-side with my SB-6c. They both are to have 160mm travel forks, a 34 on the Repack and 36 on the Yeti. The fork on the Breezer just looked shorter than the Yeti's. Didn't know if an optical illusion due to different stanchion diameters or what. So I measured the exposed stanchions on both and what do you know? The Breezer fork barely had 6" of exposed stanchion (~150mm), where the Yeti had 6.5" exposed. I cycled the fork, de-aired/re-aired, still the same. I contacted both Breezer and Fox and they said it is supposed to be a 160 travel fork (as OE).

    So Fox had a fix: an upgrade for the 34 Floats to a 2016 internals. It not only recovered all the missing travel, but is as cush as the 36 Float. The fork stands 1/2 taller which equates to about a 1/2 degree of slack in the HT angle. It's small, but it counts and the bike feels better. It isn't SB-6c "better" in the steeps, but it's an improvement.

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    Finally got a new frame and its up and running. Giant reign advanced. 65 degree head angle so the breezer feels like a POS compared to this. Giant also climbs better which is weird. Just glad I got rid of that crap, I hate that bike.

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    Update: I hadn't ridden the Repack since I'd picked up the Yeti SB-6c last May. Just back from a ride on the Repack with the new Fox fork upgrade. I tell you, that bike CARVES twisties like a mofo. I like it better than the SB-6c for most types of riding, short of steep and chunky, which is how I used it yesterday near Santa Cruz.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scooderdude View Post
    Update: I hadn't ridden the Repack since I'd picked up the Yeti SB-6c last May. Just back from a ride on the Repack with the new Fork upgrade. I tell you, that bike CARVES twisties like a mofo. I like it better than the SB-6c for most types of riding, short of steep and chunky, which is how I used it yesterday near Santa Cruz.
    No way! You actually like that thing????

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    Yup. I said so, and for the reasons cited.
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    Agreed! Just picked up the Repack Expert for $1499 (before tax) this past Presidents day and couldn't be happier with its performance so far.Click image for larger version. 

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    New question here.

    Are there any shorter riders on a Repack? At 5'5", I am curious how the long-ish top tube feels to someone of similar stature. Also, what is the lowest standover measurement over the top tube (this would be much easier if I could find a Small in stock locally...).

    Has anyone else gotten the Fox fork upgrade mentioned by scooderdude? Is this something Fox/Breezer is covering under warranty?

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    My wife is 5'3" and I bought her a small / 17" Expert level. Her maiden voyage was last weekend and she absolutely loved it. I did put a 40MM stem on before she ever rode it, the top tube and her reach look great. One note, the seat tube has a bend in it by the suspension linkage which limits the seatpost length. At her height that limited the dropper post options. I used a 30.9 KS Supernatural 75mm and it's perfect for her.
    I am on a large Repack Expert and am about 6'0 and a 125MM dropper fit in but is pretty much bottomed out.

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    Aresab, Thanks for the response...that sounds really promising. Any chance you could measure standover at the lowest point in the top tube on the Small?

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    Sure, it is 27 7/8" / just a smidge under 28" at the seat brace weld.
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    Thanks! That is a over an inch lower than the quoted standover in Breezer's specs.

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    I'm not sure that they measure standover at the lowest point, maybe middle of the top tube? Good luck with your purchase and I'd love to hear what you think of it if you decide to buy it. BTW, the 14 & 15 are identical, the 14' is $100 cheaper on PricePoint. My wife's is a 14' and mine is a 15', the only difference is she has the cooler seat with green lines/lettering.

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    Just took a gamble and pulled the trigger on a Repack Expert while PP had them at 1299. Really hope I like this bike! The reviews seemed pretty solid for the most part. I'm coming off a pretty decked out carbon all mountain hardtail so hopefully this goes well


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    So did I.
    We'll see how well it compares to the 2009 specialized pitch it is replacing, some pretty big shoes to fill as that bike had been extremely good to me over the years on every type of terrain...
    Quote Originally Posted by Skeeter97 View Post
    Just took a gamble and pulled the trigger on a Repack Expert while PP had them at 1299. Really hope I like this bike! The reviews seemed pretty solid for the most part. I'm coming off a pretty decked out carbon all mountain hardtail so hopefully this goes well


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    Congrats, Slow, and let us know what you think. They sound like very capable bikes and, at that price, it's practically impossible to be "wrong."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slowupfundown View Post
    So did I.
    We'll see how well it compares to the 2009 specialized pitch it is replacing, some pretty big shoes to fill as that bike had been extremely good to me over the years on every type of terrain...
    Right on looking forward to seeing what you think. Mine is supposed to arrive tomorrow so barring any setbacks I should be riding by Thursday morning


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    Bought an Expert back in Feb for $1499 and after PP recent price drop to $1299, had Performance bike price match and refund the difference. At either price the bike is definitely a steal and has performed well so far...couldn't be happier!

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    Just got back from first ride on the Repack and I gotta say I'm really surprised this bike isn't getting a lot more attention. Just echoing what others have said but it climbs very very well and is buttery smooth on the downhills. I've owned high dollar bikes from some of the "big" brands and I can't think of anything at all they have done any better. Really feel like I got a steal of a deal here!


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    I am seriously considering the Repack... Any thoughts on whether the Fox suspension on the Pro version is worth the premium over the Expert with the X-Fusion fork and shock?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sportscarfan View Post
    I am seriously considering the Repack... Any thoughts on whether the Fox suspension on the Pro version is worth the premium over the Expert with the X-Fusion fork and shock?
    Honestly the Open cartridge Fox fork on the Pro is pretty terrible. My buddy has one on his bike and just sent it to fox for an upgrade. I rode it and compared to my Team Repack with the FIT damper it is just awful. If you want to upgrade the damper to the new one it can be a nice fork. Personally I would go with the XFusion one and maybe upgrade to the HLR damper if you need it. It is much easier to do yourself than the fox and it is supposed to be really nice. Also not crazy about the float rear shock either. It is one of the few things I want to upgrade on the bike. Before you decide also look at the other components. It might be better to upgrade your fork but have the better components of the pro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NoMountainsBiker View Post
    Honestly the Open cartridge Fox fork on the Pro is pretty terrible. My buddy has one on his bike and just sent it to fox for an upgrade. I rode it and compared to my Team Repack with the FIT damper it is just awful. If you want to upgrade the damper to the new one it can be a nice fork. Personally I would go with the XFusion one and maybe upgrade to the HLR damper if you need it. It is much easier to do yourself than the fox and it is supposed to be really nice. Also not crazy about the float rear shock either. It is one of the few things I want to upgrade on the bike. Before you decide also look at the other components. It might be better to upgrade your fork but have the better components of the pro.
    Honestly that's partly why I went with the expert, I've never been a big fan of the entry level Fox stuff. I will say that (granted only one ride) the X-fusion stuff felt pretty good, and seems to be reviewed much higher than the low end Fox stuff. Not a fan of the SX23 wheels on the expert but I just today scored a set of take off Roval wheels already setup tubeless. Brakes felt fantastic, drivetrain worked great. So long story short if the original question asker has the funds go team issue, if not the expert is an awesome value


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    Mine is here and put together, now I just need to wait a week or two for this snow to melt from this freak storm.
    Initial ride around the neighborhood felt fine, hard to tell anything though. I'll definitely swap over my short stem, 70mm is too long.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slowupfundown View Post
    Mine is here and put together, now I just need to wait a week or two for this snow to melt from this freak storm.
    Initial ride around the neighborhood felt fine, hard to tell anything though. I'll definitely swap over my short stem, 70mm is too long.
    I went with one of these https://www.universalcycles.com/shop...s.php?id=41767 to replace the long stem hat came with it. That was one of the best mods I did to the bike. I also added a set of higher rise 780mm bars. This increased my confidence on the bike dramatically.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NoMountainsBiker View Post
    I went with one of these https://www.universalcycles.com/shop...s.php?id=41767 to replace the long stem hat came with it. That was one of the best mods I did to the bike. I also added a set of higher rise 780mm bars. This increased my confidence on the bike dramatically.
    heh, that stem is exactly what I have on the pitch that I'm moving to the breezer, that and the 1x conversion plus my dropper and I'll be ready to hit the trails.... when they're dry

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slowupfundown View Post
    heh, that stem is exactly what I have on the pitch that I'm moving to the breezer, that and the 1x conversion plus my dropper and I'll be ready to hit the trails.... when they're dry
    I also did a 1x conversion. I went with a 34 Raceface NW since I'm in Florida and don't have a lot of long climbs to deal with. I did have to add a set of Truativ steel bolts with spacers to correct the chainline since mine started as a 2X. I also added an MRP chain guide/bash gaurd combo to make sure the chain stays put. I'm very happy with mine so far.

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    Okay guys, I'm probably going to sound like an idiot here but after not riding at all for ten years, I bought a Repack Expert when Price Point had them for $1299 a couple weeks ago. It is currently at my LBS to get set up. My previous bike was a Cannondale M300 rigid which I still have but, it is beat to death.

    I did not see this thread before placing my order and I'm a little concerned that the large I bought is going to be too big for me. It was the recommended size. I am 5'11" with a 31" inseam and a very long torso. Should I be concerned or is this probably the right size for me?

    I should have the bike back in a couple days so I will know soon enough but I'm curious what those with more experience have to say. Thanks.

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    I think you will be fine. I'm just under 6'2" and ride an XL. There sizing chart seemed to be pretty on in my case. You can always tweek the fit a little. I run a 40mm stem which helped with confidence on jumps and down hill sections. I also adjusted the seat as far back as the marks allow. I think a Medium would have been too small for you so it sounds like you made the right choice to me.

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    I'm 5 11 1/2 and the Large Repack Expert is great. I can use a 125MM dropper seatpost (just barely). I swapped the stem for a 60MM as 80MM felt way too long. I really like the Repack Expert, the green/black combo pops and gets a lot of attention while I'm riding. X-Fusion suspension is awesome and very maintainable by a home user with skills. The bike would have been even better with a 2 ring crankset rather than a 3 ring up front but it really is not an issue since I've converted to 1X10 using Saint Shifters, XT 11-speed rear derailleur and, RaceFace Narrow Wide 30T, Sunrace CS-MX3 11-42 10-speed cassette. I saw a lot of fuss in this and other threads about downhill capabilities and glad I disregarded it, the bike is great!

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    Same here, 5'11" and a large fits great


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    Quote Originally Posted by NoMountainsBiker View Post
    I think you will be fine. I'm just under 6'2" and ride an XL. There sizing chart seemed to be pretty on in my case. You can always tweek the fit a little. I run a 40mm stem which helped with confidence on jumps and down hill sections. I also adjusted the seat as far back as the marks allow. I think a Medium would have been too small for you so it sounds like you made the right choice to me.
    Quote Originally Posted by Aresab View Post
    I'm 5 11 1/2 and the Large Repack Expert is great. I can use a 125MM dropper seatpost (just barely). I swapped the stem for a 60MM as 80MM felt way too long. I really like the Repack Expert, the green/black combo pops and gets a lot of attention while I'm riding. X-Fusion suspension is awesome and very maintainable by a home user with skills. The bike would have been even better with a 2 ring crankset rather than a 3 ring up front but it really is not an issue since I've converted to 1X10 using Saint Shifters, XT 11-speed rear derailleur and, RaceFace Narrow Wide 30T, Sunrace CS-MX3 11-42 10-speed cassette. I saw a lot of fuss in this and other threads about downhill capabilities and glad I disregarded it, the bike is great!
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    Thanks everyone. I read the early posts in this thread about people feeling the bikes ran large and was a little concerned. I'm really looking forward to getting back out and riding. I put less than half a mile on my old Cannondale and could feel it in my legs so, I'm going to have some serious work cut out for me.

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    I saw those blow out deals at Jenson or Pricepoint and wondered if these bikes were still holding up and living up to the early positive reviews.

    Glad to hear they are. That's a screaming deal for a new bike with a pretty good spec. And I'll add my 2 cents to the others that recommended the X-Fusion Sweep over the lower level Fox fork. I've been running one on my bike for the past year have been quite impressed. And, like others said, fairly easy to user modify and maintain.

    Thinking about switching out to the Roughcut damper now that I'm due for a rebuild anyway, but I really don't have any major complaints with the RL2 damper with the shim mods I have done.
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    Picked it up from my LBS today. I think the fit is pretty good so I'm happy with the size. I put three miles on it (gently rolling dirt road) and my legs were done. Seat probably needs to come up another half inch. Other than that, I'm just going to ride it for a while and get some legs.

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    Sharp looking bike, Ranger. But, yeah, from that angle, your seat is way slammed for flat/inclined riding.

    Really digging the neon green and black.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KRob View Post
    And I'll add my 2 cents to the others that recommended the X-Fusion Sweep over the lower level Fox fork. I've been running one on my bike for the past year have been quite impressed. And, like others said, fairly easy to user modify and maintain.
    X-Fusion is legit. I've been riding their shocks/forks for over five years now. Great bang for the buck, easy to maintain, and surprisingly lightweight.

    If you decide to replace the Sweep, chances are you'll have to cough up quite a bit of money to come up with a fork that performs better AND is lighter.

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    I'm having a similar struggle with sizing as a few others in this thread. Having narrowed the search to the repack expert or transition covert 29, I've started digging into sizing.

    I'm 6'1" with a 32" inseam and according to pricepoint's sizing chart that puts me right on the edge of L/XL on the repack. I can get a better deal on the older model but it's only available in XL right now. Is anyone else a similar size who can comment on what size they ended up with?

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    One consideration may be if you want a dropper post. I'm just shy of 6' and the 30.9 125mm travel XFusion dropper is slammed to the bottom of the seat tube on a size Lrg. The seat tube has a curve in it so it does not go all the way to the BB. On an XL being 2" longer in seat tube you may only be able to use a short dropper or none at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spipedong View Post
    I'm having a similar struggle with sizing as a few others in this thread. Having narrowed the search to the repack expert or transition covert 29, I've started digging into sizing.

    I'm 6'1" with a 32" inseam and according to pricepoint's sizing chart that puts me right on the edge of L/XL on the repack. I can get a better deal on the older model but it's only available in XL right now. Is anyone else a similar size who can comment on what size they ended up with?
    With a 32" inseam, I think the large would be the best fit. The standover height feels taller than spec would indicate. The XL would probably put a hurtin' on you. My large Repack dwarfs my old Cannondale M300 which is a large as well.

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    I'm fat and out of shape at the moment but I still managed to PR a bunch of downhill segments yesterday on the Repack. Really looking forward to getting back into riding shape and seeing what it can do.


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    Quote Originally Posted by RangerMadeKnives View Post
    With a 32" inseam, I think the large would be the best fit. The standover height feels taller than spec would indicate. The XL would probably put a hurtin' on you. My large Repack dwarfs my old Cannondale M300 which is a large as well.

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    Thanks for the input! I've ordered the repack expert in large and am looking forward to giving it a try.

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    I ordered a medium expert and at 5' 10"/11" with long legs it is a perfect fit and my 125mm reverb dropper compliments the bike well.
    My dad, 5' 8" ordered the small size "Pro" model that comes with the 125mm x-fusion dropper, and, with dropper inserted into the frame as much as possible and extended all the way, is way too big for him. In fact, at that seat height it barely fits me and I have long legs for my height. Price point is closed for the weekend so he will reach out to them on Monday and see if they can swap the 125 dropper for the 100mm one which would definitely work. (tested with my wifes 100mm KS lev dropper)
    Its odd because, even according to breezers size chart, he should be on a medium. Breezer recommend people 5'3" - 5'5" on a size small, but there is no way someone that tall (or short) would fit on that frame with that size dropper post, it really needs to be 100mm.

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    Okay, so I've got a few rides on the Repack now and I have already determined that a dropper seatpost in going to be something I want. There is no way I can make even a 75mm post work for me on my large frame without modification. After checking the specs on all available droppers, I am leaning toward cutting 1.25" off the seat tube and then running a 100mm dropper. I think length-wise the bike fits me well but the seat tube/height is tall for my shorter legs. Seems to me, a bike newly designed with this much travel should have had more consideration for dropper posts.

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    Are you sure about that, Bob? I haven't seen a large frame yet that won't accept at least 100mm of travel.

    Cutting down the seat tube seems drastic. I'm sure it would also void your frame warranty; I would avoid doing so. Besides, that would reduce the amount of travel the frame could accommodate.

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    I think the issue is that not only do the frames run bigger but also the bend in the seat tube that prevents the dropper post being inserted any lower into the frame.

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    I get that, although from the pictures I've seen of the Repack, it seems there's ample clearance above the bend. And wouldn't cutting down the seat tube 1.25" decrease the amount of available insert?

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    The issue for me is the height of the seat tube plus the height of the extended dropper. A KS 75mm Dropzone is 141mm from the bottom of the collar to the center of the seat rail. Right now, my seat is set 130mm from the top of the seatpost clamp to the center of the rails and I don't think I could go any higher without shorter cranks. There is plenty of room inside the seat tube for the bottom half of a 100mm dropper even after I cut it down.

    I'm not going to be too hasty on this. I don't "need" the dropper right away as I'm not near fit enough to start doing anything remotely exciting. If I haven't found another solution in about a month, I will likely cut it.

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    So is the frame too big for you? Would you have gone with a medium in hindsight?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hdparrish View Post
    So is the frame too big for you? Would you have gone with a medium in hindsight?
    Yes, definitely. I just went back and looked at the frame specs and the Repack's seat tube lengths go up in 30mm increments but top tube increases by 10mm. A medium probably would have been best. Still, for me, a medium would have barely given me the ability to run a 100mm dropper...so, maybe even a small.

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    That's unfortunate.

    How tall are you? What is your inseam? Apologies if you've already posted this. I'm lazy. LoL

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    Quote Originally Posted by hdparrish View Post
    That's unfortunate.

    How tall are you? What is your inseam? Apologies if you've already posted this. I'm lazy. LoL
    I am 5' 11" tall and have a 31" inseam. When looking at the sizing recommendations, I even checked +/- one inch on both height and inseam just trying to be safe and it still put me on a large.

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    Do you have the seat post extended so that your knee is only slightly bent on the pedal downstroke?

    Are you an experienced cyclist? I've noticed that some folks who are new to the pastime have a tendency to set their saddles too low. Maximum pedaling efficiency (i.e., more power for less work) is achieved with the saddle relatively high.

    Forgive the basic nature of these questions--don't wish to condescend or pander; just checking all boxes. Something doesn't seem right.

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    I am a 32" inseam and the medium is perfect, my dad is a 30" and the small is fine but needs a 100mm dropper. The seat height/ knee bend is set correctly, with the dropper extended he has to hyperextend to his tippy toes on the downstroke. There are slight bends in the frame that you cant really see from the pictures that prevent the dropper from being fully inserted and rest flush with the the top of the seat tube, otherwise it would be a non-issue.

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    I rode a lot in 2000-2001 but I wouldn't say I was serious. I was doing maybe 50-60 miles a week over fairly easy terrain. I have not ridden since then except for the few rides I've done on this bike in the last week. I had my LBS set the bike up for me and then I actually raised the seatpost another 1/2" in the middle of my first ride. My knee is locked out with my heel on the pedal. In riding, my knee does not lock out because the pedal is more forward under my foot. I don't mind the questions; I think this is all beneficial for everyone considering this bike.

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    An update on the dropper post issue. Price point states that the kits are as-is and cannot be swapped. He reached out to breezer and they said the same thing. Just kind of odd cause the only way the dropper would work on a small is for someone with a 31" inseam at least. Oh well, guess he will have to sell the dropper on Craigslist and buy a new one.

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    Wow, that really sucks in both cases. Sounds like the Breezer frames run large.

    I've followed this thread because I almost bought one back in December but decided to go with something else. I'm 6-flat with a 32-inch inseam, so I've gone with mediums in the past but my new bike is a large and fits well. Seems like I would've regretted a large for the Repack, though.

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    Wow, they have ridiculously long seat tubes!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Travis Bickle View Post
    Wow, they have ridiculously long seat tubes!
    I spent some time last night looking up seat tube length on other manufacturers bikes just as a comparison. The Repack's are way larger than the norm on seat tube length and it is worse on the smaller sizes. I would say the large is about 25mm longer than average, the medium is about 35mm larger than average, and the small is around 35mm larger. With the bend in the seat tube, smaller sizes are further compromised because they have a shallow seatpost seating depth.

    All of this seems to add up to a bike that is going to be difficult to fit to (proportionally) shorter legged riders...especially, with a dropper seatpost.

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    I know it may not be opportune, but my wife is 5'3" riding a small and we put a KindShock Supernatural/I950 with a 75MM drop. It works perfect for her. Conversely my older bike, a large KHS XCT525 had a real long seat tube and I could only fit a 100mm drop. I am able to use a 125mm on the Repack large. I'm just under 6.0' and both posts (the 100 on my KHS and 125MM on the Repack) were X-Fusion brand which are really long in depth but I like that they are easily rebuilt. Potentially you can look into posts that have a smaller insertion? An example is the KS Supernatural 100mm is 350MM / KS Lev 100MM is 335MM / KS e-Ten is 385MM long.

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    Is the issue with the small frames not being able to insert the dropper fully into the seat tube (i.e. the bottom of the post hits the bend in the seat tube)? Or is it that the seat tube is tall, and even with the collar on the post bottomed out, the post is too tall for many?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sportscarfan View Post
    Is the issue with the small frames not being able to insert the dropper fully into the seat tube (i.e. the bottom of the post hits the bend in the seat tube)? Or is it that the seat tube is tall, and even with the collar on the post bottomed out, the post is too tall for many?
    I believe both are an issue. For me specifically, it is the latter. I have done a lot of careful measuring and I am very likely going to cut 1.25" off the seat tube on my large and then install a 100mm KS Lev.

    As an FYI, my large Repack frame has a max seatpost seating depth of 203mm. Looks like most 125mm droppers can seat very close to all the way in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RangerMadeKnives View Post
    As an FYI, my large Repack frame has a max seatpost seating depth of 203mm. Looks like most 125mm droppers can seat very close to all the way in.

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    Yeah, at least in your case, I don't think the issue is post insertion. Just seems like the frame is too large for you.

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    Fox vs Xfusion

    I rode a 2016 Repack today and liked it a ton. Was a Pro flavor and had a Pike on the front. Bike was just buttery smooth. I am now thinking I want one and I keep adding it to my cart on Pricepoint, but not pulling the trigger. I am torn between Pro and Expert model. Is the Fox stuff really that bad? I don't like the 3x10 drive train on the expert. I kinda wish I could get a Pro, but have the XFusion shock on it... unless you guys think that 34 float is OK. The Pike was just.... amazing, so I'm pretty sure anything will feel lesser compared to that. I am not sure I want to spring for the the bike with the Pike though, I could have gotten it for 2500 out the door, which is still quite a bit more than what PricePoint has. So long story short, 2015 Pro (with fox and dropper?) or Expert?

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    I am new to FS bikes so I have no real frame of reference. I have seen it mentioned on a few occasions that the X-Fusion stuff is better than the Fox as equipped on the Repack. For me, the jury is still out on what drivetrain configuration I prefer but for now I'm quite comfortable with the 3x10 and spend 95% of the time on the 32t cog with an occasional jump to the big ring on smooth downhill sections.

    One thing to consider is that the Expert does not come tubeless ready (neither rims nor tires). My LBS said maybe I could make it work but they were not willing to mess with it. The jump to the Pro would have been cheaper than the new Stan's wheelset, Schwalbe tires, and rotors I just purchased. The Pro also comes with a dropper seatpost and I-spec shifters.

    I can't speak to the quality of the Fox suspension but, I think the Pro is probably the better value. I am really enjoying my Expert though!

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    I would definitely go the Pro given the spec advantages that Ranger listed--tubeless ready and dropper post would seal it for me.

    Triples are easier than doubles to convert to 1x, of course, but it's not impossible. I converted the exact same crankset on my new squishy to 1x. Had to use chainring spacers since my ride also has a stupid BB92 press-fit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hdparrish View Post
    I would definitely go the Pro given the spec advantages that Ranger listed--tubeless ready and dropper post would seal it for me.

    Triples are easier than doubles to convert to 1x, of course, but it's not impossible. I converted the exact same crankset on my new squishy to 1x. Had to use chainring spacers since my ride also has a stupid BB92 press-fit.
    If you get the pro spec budget money to get the fork upgraded to the new FIT4 damper. The Open cartridge Fox forks are truly terrible and need to be upgraded to a better damper. You could also send it to Push or Avalanche and have it upgraded. This will set you back around $300 or so. Make sure to consider that. I am also not a fan of he rear Fox shock but i is liveable if you aren't riding too hard.

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    2014 Breezer Repack

    I know Pike > Xfusion but I'm pretty damn impressed with the Xfusion stuff and I had a Pike on my last ride. I honestly thought I was gonna hate 3x10 after riding 1x11 for a while but honestly I'm kinda diggin the extra climbing gears when needed. Picked up a take of set of Roval wheels and tires already set up tubeless and couldn't be happier now


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    I've been riding the crap out of mine the last couple weeks. A couple observations:

    I do wish the seat went further down to make it easier to put weight back over the rear wheel on steeper sections. Moderately tempted to shorten the post an inch or so.

    Also, as others have said, I don't lock out the shocks for climbing, this thing just cruises up like it's nothing. I cut some strava segments by up to 15 minutes literally one day to the next with the only difference being the bike.

    Never owned a FS bike before, but I also feel that the rear shock blows through its travel too easily, even at the recommended pressure and above. If I roll off a curb sitting on the seat, that pretty much maxes out the travel. I don't ever feel it bottom out so it's probably fine.

    Either way, it's a good looking bike, and I've gotten a few compliments on it. I'm collecting parts for 1x10 and tubeless but otherwise will leave it alone.

    Here are photos for some reason, even though it looks like every other repack.


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    Beautiful trails. Bike looks sharp, too. Thanks for sharing the pics.

    Wish we had more trees here--for most, we have to work (climb a while) to get into the good stuff.

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    I agree, nice trails and nice to see a Repack out in the wilds. All our local trails have been closed due to rain (DFW). I was getting pretty tired of riding the farm roads around my house so I have started setting up a singletrack loop on our acreage. It's open pasture with no more than 30-40 feet of total ascending but, it has some challenges. I've got some sections of loose rock and some tight switchbacks and I am thinking about getting the tractor out and building a couple dirt berms. Overall length is about .8mi but my legs are hammered after one loop so it is useful...for now.

    I've also been working on my basic skills. I can get it off the ground in a bunny hop just enough to clear a 2x4 laid flat and I can ride down the length of the same 6 foot board pretty consistently. Still having trouble balancing while stopped but practicing every day. Wheelies are hit and miss ...mostly miss.

    I already mentioned I have new wheels and tires for it but have not got around to doing anything with them yet. I also ordered a KS eTen 100mm remote dropper. It should be here tomorrow. I will be cutting the seat tube to make it work. I'll post pics.

    Overall, I am really into this bike and having a great time. Can't wait to finally get it out onto some of the local trails.

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    I've now gotten a few rides under my belt on our local, most technical trails. Initial impressions are very good. The bike does climb very well and I feel like I have alot of control over the front end, both navigating tight switchbacks and getting up and over technical steps, the front end is very controllable side to side and up and down.

    I put my 40mm stem and have already converted to 1x with a 30t raceface, they both compliment the bike and geometry. Is this bike a downhill monster? no. Is it a do it all bike? absolutely, 1-3 foot drops are no issue, long jagged rock gardens, the bike flows right through them. I'm not having the rear shock bottom out issue that some are reporting but I'm lightish at 160. I am very pleased with the x-fusion fork, coming from a Pike this is in the same ballpark IMO.

    The bike isnt light, but its not all that heavy either, about where I expect a bike of this travel. The 1x conversion helped, still need to install the dropper and go tubeless which will be easy.
    One thing I've noticed, as has someone else with this bike, is that it really "pops" off jumps, I'm getting more air than I used to on the same trails.
    My biggest issue right now is that I am in bad shape, this winter was not kind to me...

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    Anyone else having a helluva time doing tubeless setup on the stock wheels and tires (Expert build)? I've taped the rims, used sealant, tons of soapy water, using a compressor and I'm not even coming close to getting the beads to seat. Tired of getting pinch flats on the rear with tubes but a tubeless ready wheel set and tires aren't in the budget this season so I really need to get these to work. Any suggestions?

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    Well, either my tape job sucks or WEB Vigilantes are the most porous tires known to man. Maybe both. Went to air them up this evening with tubes to take a quick ride and found out that my rear tube was leaking. Even with bead seated, it was going completely flat in less than 5 minutes.

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    Totally eyeballing one of these. Sold my 2014 Intense Tracer 275 Foundation build so I could buy a new 2015 Focus Cayo Disc 4.0 road bike, got such a good deal I have $500 in my pocket still from that swap and should get $600-ish from selling my current road bike.

    Wondering if I should buy now from Pricepoint ($1402) or wait until Memorial day hoping that it drops another $100 or so?

    In case your wondering why I would sell my Intense (Got $2000 for it while I paid not a ton more than that for it almost two years ago). I loved the bike, but I road ride about 75-80% now days so I wanted to upgrade there more. I was content to maybe pick up something FS that was decently used for $1000-1100, but shoot if PP has these new for $1299 again, it seems like to good a deal to pass up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by linvillegorge View Post
    Anyone else having a helluva time doing tubeless setup on the stock wheels and tires (Expert build)? I've taped the rims, used sealant, tons of soapy water, using a compressor and I'm not even coming close to getting the beads to seat. Tired of getting pinch flats on the rear with tubes but a tubeless ready wheel set and tires aren't in the budget this season so I really need to get these to work. Any suggestions?
    Are you using anything other than the rim tape to seal it? Have you tried putting on more rim tape? thicker tape would push the tire more into the bead or something like that

    Stan's makes some sleeves that are basically half-tubes with a valve that make it pretty easy for the tire to seat.

    Or you could take an existing tube, inbed it, and slice it down the middle and put the tire over that. There's a youtube vid out there somewhere of that process. tubes are cheap.

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    This morning I cut down my seat tube. If I had bought a medium, instead of the recommended large, I would not have had to do this. Since I got the bike from Pricepoint, had my LBS assemble it, and put miles on it before deciding that I wanted a dropper seatpost, returning it was not an option. Cutting the seat tube down was the only way for me to be able to fit a dropper on a large frame with my 31 inch inseam. It was not very hard to cut down.

    First step was to see how much tube I needed to keep for the seatpost clamp to still fit. I measured the depth of the clamp to the top lip.

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    Next I measured up from the top of the weld and added a couple millimeters as a safety margin.

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    I checked where my cut line would lay all the way around the tube.

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    I placed a strip of painters tape around the tube to protect the paint while cutting. I then marked my line on the tape.

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    I then cut the tube with...a coping saw! I had actually planned to use one of my three different sized tubing cutters but, this tube fell right in between the capacity of my medium and large cutters. I decided on the coping saw instead of a hacksaw because the teeth don't have any set and it therefore cuts a very thin, straight line. I also installed the blade to cut on the pull stroke which is standard for coping saws.

    I didn't get a pic of actual cutting because it required both hands. I should mention that I didn't just cut straight through the tube; I cut my way around the tube, carefully following the line.

    After the tube was cut I cleaned up the top with a large vixen file. These are not a file everybody will have but, they produce an exceptionally clean cut in aluminium.

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    Cleaned up the inside edge with a small half-round file.

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    Clamp fits cleanly. Slotting next.

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    I don't have a bicycle work stand so, I dropped the wheels and clamped the frame in a vise. I placed a strip of tape to protect the paint and laid out the slot and drilled hole location.

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    I drilled the hole in two stages, first with a 1/8" pilot and then opening it up with a 1/4". I then cut the slot with an air powered cutoff tool and a 1/8" thick disc.

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    Pretty clean but, if I had to send it to the factory for warranty work, they might figure out something was different.

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    Ritchey seatpost installed.

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    After doing all this, I went to install my new KS eTen dropper and found that the tube was way too long. Apparently, the eTen bottom tube is about 40mm longer than every other 100mm dropper. I sent it back to Jenson and will likely order a Lev.

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    You're a brave man, Bob. Looks like you know what you're doing, though. Hats off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dave785 View Post
    Are you using anything other than the rim tape to seal it? Have you tried putting on more rim tape? thicker tape would push the tire more into the bead or something like that

    Stan's makes some sleeves that are basically half-tubes with a valve that make it pretty easy for the tire to seat.

    Or you could take an existing tube, inbed it, and slice it down the middle and put the tire over that. There's a youtube vid out there somewhere of that process. tubes are cheap.
    Nothing but tape. I'm going to try re-taping it tonight and I'll probably do two full wraps. The first time I just did about a 4" overlap at the valve stem. If that doesn't work, I'll try the tube. In the meantime, I'm probably going to start keeping an eye out on pricepoint and pinkbike classifieds for a true tubeless ready wheelset. It'd ha r to be a screaming deal though. More likely I'll wait and try to take advantage of season ending clearance deals once snowboarding season starts back up.

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    Pretty sweet move chopping down the tube like that. I had the LBS cut down my seat post to the bare minimum length for my setup and I still wish I could slam the seat lower for downhills. That bend in the tube really limits your ability to slam the seat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slowupfundown View Post
    I've now gotten a few rides under my belt on our local, most technical trails. Initial impressions are very good. The bike does climb very well and I feel like I have alot of control over the front end, both navigating tight switchbacks and getting up and over technical steps, the front end is very controllable side to side and up and down.

    I put my 40mm stem and have already converted to 1x with a 30t raceface, they both compliment the bike and geometry. Is this bike a downhill monster? no. Is it a do it all bike? absolutely, 1-3 foot drops are no issue, long jagged rock gardens, the bike flows right through them. I'm not having the rear shock bottom out issue that some are reporting but I'm lightish at 160. I am very pleased with the x-fusion fork, coming from a Pike this is in the same ballpark IMO.

    The bike isnt light, but its not all that heavy either, about where I expect a bike of this travel. The 1x conversion helped, still need to install the dropper and go tubeless which will be easy.
    One thing I've noticed, as has someone else with this bike, is that it really "pops" off jumps, I'm getting more air than I used to on the same trails.
    My biggest issue right now is that I am in bad shape, this winter was not kind to me...
    Agree with all of this. The only trail bike I've personally ridden that gets in the air easier is the Santa Cruz 5010 but the Repack climbs way better. It takes some yoga poses to try to keep the 5010's front end grounded on technical climbs.

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    Anyone that went from 3x to 1x feel like the weight loss was significant? I'm kinda liking the 3x at the moment but every once in a while the weight weenie in me comes out with ideas, and that's one of them. Already got a lighter wheelset tubeless which was great.


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    Spoke with Price Point yesterday and they said they only had 3 Mediums left on the Repack Expert, so I broke down and ordered mine up. Should have it hopefully by the end next week. Cannot wait.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hdparrish View Post
    You're a brave man, Bob. Looks like you know what you're doing, though. Hats off.
    Quote Originally Posted by linvillegorge View Post
    Pretty sweet move chopping down the tube like that...
    Thanks guys. Looking forward to getting a dropper on it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Skeeter97 View Post
    Anyone that went from 3x to 1x feel like the weight loss was significant? I'm kinda liking the 3x at the moment but every once in a while the weight weenie in me comes out with ideas, and that's one of them. Already got a lighter wheelset tubeless which was great.
    I can't imagine it would feel like a significant (or even noticeable) reduction. I am probably going to go 1x at some point but looking at the weight savings more as an offset to the added weight of the dropper seatpost. After doing the math though, it looks like my tubeless setup is going to drop about 1485gr total. I currently also have 540gr flat pedals so I can certainly lose some weight there. Beyond that, I think the ROI becomes quite a bit lower. Much cheaper for me to lose weight.

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    I converted mine and my wife's to 1X using the Sunrace 11/42 cassette, RaceFace Narrow wide. I also used a pair of SLX M660 cranks on mine from my other bike. She has a Goatlink on the rear derailleur and I have an 11-speed XT (which works just fine 10-speed). I am also using a Saint shifter. We both have droppers, we had to use a KS75mm on her bike based on size. I am a fan of X-Fusion, they are easily rebuilt at home and their support is great. I am using a 30.9 Hilo SL. Here is a pic earlier this year on the maiden voyage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aresab View Post
    I converted mine and my wife's to 1X using the Sunrace 11/42 cassette, RaceFace Narrow wide. I also used a pair of SLX M660 cranks on mine from my other bike. She has a Goatlink on the rear derailleur and I have an 11-speed XT (which works just fine 10-speed). I am also using a Saint shifter. We both have droppers, we had to use a KS75mm on her bike based on size. I am a fan of X-Fusion, they are easily rebuilt at home and their support is great. I am using a 30.9 Hilo SL. Here is a pic earlier this year on the maiden voyage.

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    Nice! Do you have any back pedaling issues on either setup?

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