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    Old 7speed bike wanting many gears and single front

    can i get this wheel and add eagle 12 speed cassette?

    https://www.amazon.com/Wheel-Master-...-goods&sr=1-25

    if not what wheel can i get with v brakes that will fit the eagle cassette?
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    Unfortunately no, old school 7 speed free hubs can't fit a cassette as large as 12 speed. If you are committed to eagle and particularly if you want the smallest 10 tooth and not the 11 to 50, you'll need to have a wheel built up custom. If you just want wide range there are a lot more options on the market now.

    Velo orange make a nice tubeless compatible rear wheel with an 11 speed freehub: https://velo-orange.com/collections/...isc-rear-wheel
    and that opens you up to use any wide range 11 speed system from sram shimano or box components who make an affordable 11-50 11 speed drivetrain. Box also makes wide range 8 9 and 10 speed 1x drive-trains, finding used rim brake wheels with 8 to 10 speed free-hubs is pretty easy.

    Box: https://www.boxcomponents.com/custit...ub1/Drivetrain
    Advent x(solid wide range 10 speed option): https://www.microshift.com/en/produc...tain/advent-x/
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    Thanks for all the info and havenít seen those brands of components before. What wheels and components you recommend for me to run this v brake bike with? I can get the eagle stuff pretty quickly but I wasnít sure if u were saying those wheels I posted wouldnít take the driver Iíll also have to get too I assume. Or do sram hubs have it already and maybe I would build the wheels. Whatís a quick cheaper setup to get rolling? I donít need all those gears though I just want a drivetrain and cranks w no front derailleur, thatís pretty much it. Just want it to come in the mail within the next week or two at most. Thanks

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    I didn't look at the amazon link my bad just the bike photo. So you're doing a 700c conversion? either way the wheel in your link has an 8 speed free-hub body, that type can accept anything up to a 10 speed cassette. Here's an article that might clear things up about compatibility https://bike.bikegremlin.com/1259/bi...compatibility/

    Generally with shimano hubs like the one there on amazon you can't swap a sram freehub onto it. So the quickest way to get to where you want would be getting that wheel you have listed along with a 1x 8, 9 or 10 speed chain cassette and derailleur along with a race-face or shimano crank and bottom bracket. In that case I'd consider going with box components since its really easy to pick a whole group-set of their website. No amazon prime delivery unfortunately though. Since youre doing 700c you might try looking for rim brake road bike, touring or cyclocross wheels since they are more common, and often have 11 speed and sometimes even 12 speed freehubs. 12 speed is generally still considered high end though so you may have to pay a premium.

    You could do it cheaper possibly by buying a hub and rim off ebay (you could also do a rim swap with a disc mtb wheel), getting your bike shop to lace it up. Then you can have any cassette you want but that's not necessarily a quick option.

    Also consider that if your crank set has bolt on chain-rings (not riveted ones) you can just remove the inner and outer ring, replace the middle one with a 1x specific chain ring and boom, 1x crank. You just need to know the BCD or bolt circle diameter of your crank and then you can choose a chain-ring based on that.

    These older cranks tend to be 94mm bcd 5 bolt which is a bit rare nowadays. Surly makes a good chain-ring for a lot of different sizes including 94mm, and so does wolftooth.
    https://www.jensonusa.com/Surly-Stai...teel-Chainring
    https://www.wolftoothcomponents.com/...e-diameter-bcd
    https://www.wolftoothcomponents.com/...6bf81392&_ss=r
    box prime 9sp 11 to 50 tooth: https://www.worldwidecyclery.com/pro...hifter-prime-9
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    That wheel should work with SRAM SX and NX or similar offerings from Sunrace

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    Quote Originally Posted by C8N View Post
    That wheel should work with SRAM SX and NX or similar offerings from Sunrace
    Yes actually, I didn't know till I saw your comment and checked. I'm so used to 12 speed only being compatible with itself, didn't realize nx could fit on old free-hubs.
    https://www.pinkbike.com/news/review...rivetrain.html
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    Sorry I goofed and didnít realize i posted a 700c wheel and Iím trying to do 26Ē wheels with some kind of drivetrain. The complication is finding a wheelset thatís cheap and available and rim brake and also a drivetrain they will fit and wonít take forever to com. Maybe Iíll have to get a new driver for the wheel? In the final stretch of not knowing where Iím going..but direct me and Iíll continue on to the purchase button and finally be riding hopefully.

    theres a lot of options...maybe u have a lead or preference u recommend

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    Here are some options. The first one is the most expensive but its pretty good value. The rim is a velocity cliffhanger (made in the US usually goes for 100 bucks rim only) and the hub is shimano deore. I have the same rim on my old 90's mtb, super durable and reliable rear rim, a tad heavy but in-destructible. The other two are cheaper but I've generally heard good things about Alex rims.

    https://www.worldwidecyclery.com/pro...ffhanger-black

    https://www.rei.com/product/770553/x...101-rear-wheel

    https://www.rei.com/product/770553/x...E&gclsrc=aw.ds
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    I really appreciate ur advice and got that rear wheel and the matching front in my cart at ur first link. As I was walking by I saw the sram gx and the 68/73 bottom bracket, so threw those in too, but am I asking too much to get gx to fit that wheel? Theyíre here in California and Iíll call tomorrow and see. If not Iíll get the nx I guess. Hopefully them being close will get me parts instantly. Maybe can get them to attach the cassette and Iíll only have to order the bottom bracket tool and can install.

    but after watching this:
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=k1Bh6aey2to

    seemd be easier to just do nx so the standard Shimano cassette will fit and wonít have to pay for the special sram driver right?

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    GX? Wait a minute here... you are going to cheese out on wheels but have no issues pulling the trigger on a $200+ cassette? Something does not add up here.

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    now that I realize the nx will fit the standard Shimano 10speed hub Iíll just do the nx. Yea not worth the gx w the special adapter freehub especially

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=k1Bh6aey2to

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    Yeah for sure the only functional difference is not having that 10 tooth and really its the climbing gear that's important. With 26 inch hoops you'll be able to spin up any climb with that 50.
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    Thing is what are you trying to achieve? As you mentioned you "donít need all those gears though I just want a drivetrain and cranks w no front derailleur, thatís pretty much it" you could just simply take off the big and small chainrings, or replace the cranks/chainring...that is the very most basic.

    For the wheel, you also don't necessarily need a wheel, just buy a hub and rebuild the current rim (on the assumption the rim is still in good shape).
    All the gear and no idea.

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    The wheels I have now are pretty beat with crunchy bearings and a broken spoke. When I took off the front derailleur with this drivetrain it often jumps chainrings by itself when in the biggest or smallest cog. I want a fresh start. Something shiny. Just sold my cross bike with sram force intending to reinvest in this. And really the local mountain needs a seriously giant gear to get up.

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    Yeah, of course, just laying the very smallest amount of effort out there.
    Personally I have a bike with eagle, and another with 2x, but when the hills get really big and/or steep, I roll out my bike with 3x (of course the others are 29/27.5 respectively vs 3x 26). But generally eagle is pretty good, only thing I would do is replace with shimano, but thats just personal preference.
    All the gear and no idea.

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    Ugh. I must have sent at least 10 cancel item requests on amazon. Planetcyclery just shipped me the gx which I ordered five days ago
    https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07CW...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
    So harder to find a hub that fits the gx cassette
    What u think of getting this cassette to
    replace it:


    https://www.jensonusa.com/Sunrace-MZ...SPEED-Cassette

    Then I could just get these cheap rim brake wheels:
    https://www.ebay.com/itm/Sun-Rhyno-L...QAAOSwHIleoKYO

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    And thatís what I did...ordered the sunrace cassette and these wheels
    :https://www.ebay.com/itm/26-dt-swiss...app-cvip-panel
    Seemed the easiest and cheapest way to get to 12 speeds when stuck with the gx.

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    See if my pic shows




    3Ē riser bars in the mail.

    Itís a too small for me bike but I wanted that and just get the most setback seatpost and get 3Ē riser bars. I see higher rise bars And Iíve seen some very setback seatposts. Maybe could go smaller.


    My other small bike 20Ē wheels. 1700 watts 33mph. Itís a motorcycle but can take it almost anywhere. For sale on craigslist sf ca.


    the pics are better upside down in some way for some of you but the rest of us itís really worth it to turn ur head enough.
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