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    Specialized Fuse 6Fattie

    On Friday afternoon I took delivery of this beast, a 2016 Specialised Fuse Expert 6Fattie. I'm a tall guy so I went with the XXL and it's plenty enormous.

    The XXL runs a 75mm stem as standard but I put a 70mm aftermarket stem on it. I'm actually wishing I'd gone even shorter to something like 60mm or 65mm. The stock bars were far too narrow for me so I've got some 800mm bars on there now. That's definitely too wide but I didn't have time yet to do a decent job of cutting the them down to 780mm, which is my favoured width for trail riding.

    With some good pedals, bottle cage/multi-tool, bar and stem upgrade (still running tubes for now) it weighs right on 30 pounds which seems OK to me for such a huuuuge frame and tyres. The Specialised Stout crankset and TranzX dropper are probably really heavy and I'm not at all keen on the dropper. It's definitely a budget piece.

    The first ride was interesting. I haven't ridden a hardtail for a very long time so that was initially more noticeable to me than the tyre width. I somehow managed to crash in the first corner. Not really sure what happened. I'm running around 16psi in the tyres. I weigh 260 pounds without riding gear/pack so i guess that is pretty low? I crashed several more times in big rockgardens which I put down to the low tyre pressure and lack of fitness for clearing boulders. I bent the front brake lever right around on itself. I was able to bend it back and finished the ride, but the lever is shot. I have some Shimano Saints on order, luckily. It doesn't need such hardcore brakes but there was a deal where I got them cheaper than XTs. I'm not at all keen on the stock brakes which are Avid DB3. Reviews I've read mention different brakes than came on mine. I'm Australian and even an Australia review unit had SRAM Guide R, so maybe they changed the spec shortly before release? The Manitou Magnum Comp I will need some more time with. It really ramps up for the second half of the stroke. I've read that it can be tricky to get setup perfectly. It didn't stand out as good or bad; but it did the job.

    In general I found the bike had tonnes of grip but took a bit to get leaned over. It seemed to want to stand up and power ahead. I'm sure I'll adjust to giving it some more body language. I found it hugely enjoyable to ride and it certainly smoothed out the chatter of the trail.

    I'm loving the bike and would definitely recommend it. Especially for anyone my height (even taller) after a big bike.

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    surprised the fuse hasn't got more mentions round here thus far.

    looks like a great line of bikes!

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    Looks Good! I ordered the Expert as well, in yellow. Ill post pics and info on mine later this week.

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    I forgot to mention the geometry. The slack head angle is great! And with the top tube being so long and the rear as short as they could go, I think they could have specced them with really short stems rather than just short.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AptosRider View Post
    Looks Good! I ordered the Expert as well, in yellow. Ill post pics and info on mine later this week.
    Congrats! The yellow is great. I didn't have any colour choice. The colour of mine is kind of old school. Wouldn't normally be my choice.

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    I'm having issues with the TranzX dropper post. While fully extended and without touching the lever I'm finding it bounces down/up about 10mm as I hit bumps while seated. Feels awful and I imagine isn't good for it. I think perhaps it can't take my weight. I can't find any documentation online. It never ceases to amaze me how expensive bicycles can be sold with such limited manuals/documentation. I've emailed Specialised.

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    thomson elite posts don't do that and are way lighter. hope this helps

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    Looks great and BIG! All ya need to get you going with a plus bike on a budget! Looks like plenty of clearance out back between the stays and nice slack head angle...all a Plus for this kind of bike! ...Enjoy!
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    I use Thomson fixed posts and absolutely love them. I'd love a Thomson Covert dropper but can't afford it. Close to $600 here. Ouch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paranoid_Android View Post
    I use Thomson fixed posts and absolutely love them. I'd love a Thomson Covert dropper but can't afford it. Close to $600 here. Ouch.
    If i pick up a pro, the dropper will hafta go. Seriously considering a red pro

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    The red Pro was what I wanted, too. The latest version of the Specialized dropper is meant to be much better than previous models. You might find its OK.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paranoid_Android View Post
    The red Pro was what I wanted, too. The latest version of the Specialized dropper is meant to be much better than previous models. You might find its OK.
    Pro wasn't available?

    I'm a rigid post guy, you can have my dropper!

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    Quote Originally Posted by newmarketrog View Post
    Pro wasn't available?

    I'm a rigid post guy, you can have my dropper!
    The Pro was available with a 3-4 month wait on the Red colour. I have trouble living with delayed gratification. I'm weak

    Thanks mate! I'd love to chuck you some $ for the dropper but I'm in Australia and I assume you aren't. Thanks, though!

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    I'm really hoping to be able to snag one of these soon. My wife wants the women's RUZE and i think they look like an absolute BLAST to ride.
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    I plan on getting my wife the Ruze, which will be her first offroad bicycle. My shop won't order me one just yet however.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrich88 View Post
    I'm really hoping to be able to snag one of these soon. My wife wants the women's RUZE and i think they look like an absolute BLAST to ride.
    Quote Originally Posted by Suns_PSD View Post
    I plan on getting my wife the Ruze, which will be her first offroad bicycle. My shop won't order me one just yet however.
    Lucky girls!The Ruze looks awesome!

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    So, the brakes I'll have replaced with Shimano Saints shortly but now I'm thinking about a new Shimano groupset.

    When it comes to chainline and how that relates to the boost spacing etc I don't really know much. I'd like to buy this XT groupset but don't really know if it's suitable. I guess the bottom bracket would have to suit as well.

    Any advice?
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    If you're buying the groupset with cranks, i'm not sure about the cranks. But in the Shimano forum I posted my first ride impressions on the new XT m8000 1x11.

    It's pretty awesome, I would HIGHLY recommend it!

    Here is the link:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrich88 View Post
    If you're buying the groupset with cranks, i'm not sure about the cranks. But in the Shimano forum I posted my first ride impressions on the new XT m8000 1x11.

    It's pretty awesome, I would HIGHLY recommend it!

    Here is the link:
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    Thanks tor the feedback on the group-set. It certainly seems like some quality gear. I just need to make sure it fits this funky bicycle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paranoid_Android View Post
    So, the brakes I'll have replaced with Shimano Saints shortly but now I'm thinking about a new Shimano groupset.

    When it comes to chainline and how that relates to the boost spacing etc I don't really know much. I'd like to buy this XT groupset but don't really know if it's suitable. I guess the bottom bracket would have to suit as well.

    Any advice?
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    You'll want the crank with the 53mm chain line. Bottom bracket is standard width.



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    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paranoid_Android View Post
    So, the brakes I'll have replaced with Shimano Saints shortly but now I'm thinking about a new Shimano groupset.

    When it comes to chainline and how that relates to the boost spacing etc I don't really know much. I'd like to buy this XT groupset but don't really know if it's suitable. I guess the bottom bracket would have to suit as well.

    Any advice?
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    That new XT crank does look pretty nice, and it has 2 chainline options. Theoretically, to 50mm chainline version is for normal 35/142 hubs and the 53mm chainline version is for Boost 148 hubs. In reality you can use either one with a Boost setup. The 50mm chainline version will offset the chainring toward the bigger cogs a bit. If you spend most of your time in the bigger cogs, that might actually be good as the chainline would be straighter and it should result in slightly less wear.

    All minor differences and either will work fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bikeny View Post
    That new XT crank does look pretty nice, and it has 2 chainline options. Theoretically, to 50mm chainline version is for normal 35/142 hubs and the 53mm chainline version is for Boost 148 hubs. In reality you can use either one with a Boost setup. The 50mm chainline version will offset the chainring toward the bigger cogs a bit. If you spend most of your time in the bigger cogs, that might actually be good as the chainline would be straighter and it should result in slightly less wear.

    All minor differences and either will work fine.
    Doesn't the Fuse have a PF30 bottom bracket that is incompatible with a 24mm Shimano spindle/bb? Or would you have to use some type of adapter?
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    Quote Originally Posted by davemk View Post
    Doesn't the Fuse have a PF30 bottom bracket that is incompatible with a 24mm Shimano spindle/bb? Or would you have to use some type of adapter?
    Praxis BB is the best way to go from what i've heard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by davemk View Post
    Doesn't the Fuse have a PF30 bottom bracket that is incompatible with a 24mm Shimano spindle/bb? Or would you have to use some type of adapter?
    I didn't think about that, but yes, the Fuse has a PF30 BB. There are 3 ways to use a 24mm spindle Shimano crank on a PF30 frame:

    1: You can use the standard PF30 BB already in the frame and buy adapters to fit the 24mm spindle.

    2: Install an adapter into the frame that will accept a standard threaded Shimano BB.

    3: Install a PF30 24mm complete BB. There are made by a few companies including Praxis and Wheels Manufacturing.

    If the bearings in the frame are still good, #1 would be the easiest/cheapest option.

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    Thanks for the detailed info, guys. This is exactly what I was after.

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    Got all my Deity parts in today. 35mm Cavity stem, Bladerunner pedals, and a blue ano seat clamp. Now all I need is the bike to arrive. Grrrrr................waiting sux.

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    +1 on the Ruze being kick ass, if I were buying today I would pick it over the Fuse in a heartbeat.

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    Is the decision just based on what sex you are? Fuse for a guy, Ruze for a girl?

    I just bought a women's specific bike for my girlfriend. We got a great deal so went with that bike otherwise I was recommending she stick with the men's bike for easier resale. I wasn't totally convinced on the differences between the male and female models.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paranoid_Android View Post
    Is the decision just based on what sex you are? Fuse for a guy, Ruze for a girl?

    I just bought a women's specific bike for my girlfriend. We got a great deal so went with that bike otherwise I was recommending she stick with the men's bike for easier resale. I wasn't totally convinced on the differences between the male and female models.
    The differences between male and female bikes are in the geometry of the bike. Lower standover and other features for the girls that are more suited to an average female build. It will fit very different from a men's bike. My wife has ridden both and prefers the womens specific build more. Some don't though.
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    I have decided on the Ruze Pro for my wife in a small. I spoke to Specialized and it's 3# lighter than the expert which I consider a fair deal. And I want the bike to be a real joy to ride for my wife, even if she doesn't understand the differences.

    I hope to get an order in this week although I'm tempted to wait until the Fall 10% sale my local dealer always has.

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    The frames are the same between the two... Almost every other part on the bike is different. Drivetrain, brakes, wheels... it's literally almost everything... the saddle is the same, tires, stem and grips haha THATS IT. My wife likes the Turquoise comp, not the nicest, but i'm not complaining. It's more affordable and if she has fun that's all that matters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Suns_PSD View Post
    I have decided on the Ruze Pro for my wife in a small. I spoke to Specialized and it's 3# lighter than the expert which I consider a fair deal. And I want the bike to be a real joy to ride for my wife, even if she doesn't understand the differences.

    I hope to get an order in this week although I'm tempted to wait until the Fall 10% sale my local dealer always has.

    Wow, 3lbs is a lot. Plus the Pro runs 1x11, just like the Fuse Pro. The rest run 1x10.

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    Back from my first trip to the alps.
    Day one was lift supported bikepark like shredding. I love this bikes but the brakes didn't have enough bite for me. Just ordered SLX brakes. On the second day we made a "real" tour. Due to my poor fitness I would have liked a tad smaller chainring but the bikes handles well on long climbs.
    And I stumbeled over a Manitou Magnum Pro for a reasonable price, really lookin forward to this upgrade

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    Just upgraded my Fuse. Now with Magnum Pro & SLX brakes
    Can't wait to throw it on the trail tomorrow!






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    Imre...I'm interested to see how you feel the 2 forks compare. I would think the Manitou would be a noticeable improvement, but I've never ridden either. Thanks in advance.

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    I've took'em on test ride today. It's really a huge difference.The precision & traction of the front wheel was great. And even though it was raining the whole day and it was really wet, I could handle more aggressive lines than before. All in all I'm very impressed of the performance an I'll play around with the different settings over the next few rides.

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    sick bike brother !

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    LBS notified me yesterday that my Fuse Pro is in and being built. Will try and post pics and impressions once I'm on it. I do love the red on Imre's and wish that had been a color option for the pro.

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    Picked up my XL Fuse Expert today. I quickly swapped out the pedals, adjusted the fork pressure, and threw on a water bottle cage before getting a quick ride on my local trails with my boys. I like it so far, it is my backup/snow/mud/screw around with the kids bike. I was surprised that the wheels didn't feel too heavy even with the tubes still in the tires (I'll set it up tubeless tomorrow). And the bike is really playful. I think it will be a great second bike. I'll post more thoughts as I get more time on the bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davemk View Post
    I think it will be a great second bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chocolatemoeze View Post
    Why specific as a 2nd bike?


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    I think it's a bit like Flow Magazine said in their review of the Fuse:
    Who then is the bike designed for? Someone who isnít interested in racing (except maybe in the desert), someone who doesnít want the complications of a dual suspension bike, and someone who is looking for something a little bit different. It would make the perfect second bike to accompany either an XC race machine or long-travel all-mountain bike, as itís a far cry from either of these categories.
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    My main bike is a 2015 Santa Cruz Nomad, with a Push ElevenSix shock. I ride it everywhere and love it. I couldn't personally imagine having my Fuse as my only bike, I would feel limited. But I've been riding mountain bikes for 23 years, I also focus most of my rides on big alpine epics, or bike parks here in CO. The Fuse might make a great one quiver bike for someone new to the sport. I also only have one ride on the bike so far, so I reserve the right to change my opinion.
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    My Fuse is my second bike as well for exactly the same reasoning as davemk. I've got a StumpJumper 29er FSR as well. I just got my second ride in on the Fuse this morning and am quickly getting used to it and smiling like crazy on the downhill corners. I was also surprised that the Fuse Pro actually comes standard with the first bottle cage/EMT combo and the chain tool/chain link top cap in the headset.

    I'm still making small adjustments and figuring out shock/tire pressures but on the mostly rolling singletrack behind my house, this bike is a ton of fun. And from the look of davemk's pic, we're riding the same trails.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tooberand View Post
    And from the look of davemk's pic, we're riding the same trails.
    Are you in Highlands Ranch too?
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    Yessir. Those Wildcat Mountain trails make for a good, quick ride.

    So far I've been riding tubeless at 20psi. I'm no expert at giving good feedback on the feel of a bike, but it feels like a good balance between traction and speed.

    I'm also not sure I'm sold on the 750mm wide handlebars. My full suspension is only 720mm wide and those feel like too much sometimes. I'll give it a little more, but may eventually switch to narrower bars, or take the hacksaw too them if my LBS says that's okay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tooberand View Post
    Yessir. Those Wildcat Mountain trails make for a good, quick ride.

    So far I've been riding tubeless at 20psi. I'm no expert at giving good feedback on the feel of a bike, but it feels like a good balance between traction and speed.

    I'm also not sure I'm sold on the 750mm wide handlebars. My full suspension is only 720mm wide and those feel like too much sometimes. I'll give it a little more, but may eventually switch to narrower bars, or take the hacksaw too them if my LBS says that's okay.
    Interesting, I'm running the 15 psi pressure that my shop & the Flow Mag article recommended, I'm thinking about going lower down to 13 psi. I'm used to ultra wide bars (I've got 800mm bars on my Nomad) so the 750s feel fine. In my opinion you should try the bars for a while with the stock width. I bet you will like them once you get used to them, but it is all personal preference/fit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by davemk View Post
    Are you in Highlands Ranch too?
    Ha, not only is the trail distinguishable... you can date it to the past week thanks to haze. Thanks California!

    Where did you get your Fuze, Bikesource? I'm trying to find a Ruze for my girlfriend but don't see any listed in inventory online, will have to make some phone calls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tgarson View Post
    Where did you get your Fuze, Bikesource? I'm trying to find a Ruze for my girlfriend but don't see any listed in inventory online, will have to make some phone calls.
    Mojo Wheels. IMO they are the best shop in Denver.
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    I got mine at Bike Source. They're better than they were five years back and ultra convenient for me. Calling is always better than they're online inventory.

    I finally managed to snap a pic of mine:
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    Quote Originally Posted by tooberand View Post
    I finally managed to snap a pic of mine:
    Nice, the red looks good. How wide are the Roval rims on the Pro?
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    "Roval 650b, alloy, 38mm wide, 2Bliss Ready, 24/28h".

    Although I'm not impressed by the hubs. Do you also have the Specialized Hi Lo Disc? I spin my front wheel and it stops after 10 seconds.

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    The expert comes with the Stout hubs, which aren't very impressive either. They have very slow engagement, but spin okay. I went with the Expert since I knew I was going to be riding it in the snow, and wanted the wider rims. But, everything else on your Pro looks so much nicer.
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    I originally had an older Niner Air 9 (Scandium) for riding the HR trails. It was a lot of fun and the bike could fly. However, the frame cracked back in May and that's when I put in the order for the Fuse to take its place. I typically get Comp or Expert level, however, the amount of upgrades in the Pro seemed atypically generous for what Specialized normally does: Fork, wheels, brakes, drivetrain, SWAT accessories, seat post. Plus it had a nicer gearing selection for those days where my legs just don't have it. I'm not sure why they went with narrower rims on the Pro, but with my lack of technical skills, I'm pretty sure I won't notice the difference.

    I do like your "Hyper" color on your expert. The more bold the better in my opinion.

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    So I took the Fuse out for a "real" ride yesterday, and I have to say the traction is unbelievable. My ride was 12 miles on blown out sandy trail with 1900 ft of climbing and descending. The bike was really fun. I converted the wheels to a tubeless setup, which is a must on this bike. Those fat tubes are really heavy, I immediately felt a difference in performance with the lower rolling weight. I was running about 15 psi up front, and 18 in the back. The traction was incredible, I was climbing steep loose sections out of the saddle and the tire never slipped. It almost felt like riding slickrock in Moab, where you are only limited by your legs, not traction.
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    Sounds great! Which trail?

    I picked up a gauge yesterday which will allow me to accurately set the lower pressure in my tires since the floor pump gauge wasn't very accommodating for that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tooberand View Post
    Sounds great! Which trail?

    I picked up a gauge yesterday which will allow me to accurately set the lower pressure in my tires since the floor pump gauge wasn't very accommodating for that.
    Out and back at Indian Creek from the Sedalia side up the singletrack to ringtail down ringtail to swallow tail and back. That trail is really overgrown and sandy from all the heat, but it was a great test for the Fuse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by davemk View Post
    Those fat tubes are really heavy, I immediately felt a difference in performance with the lower rolling weight.
    Is it not using a regular 27.5" tube? I thought that was the only option.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nemesis256 View Post
    Is it not using a regular 27.5" tube? I thought that was the only option.
    It's stamped 650Bx2.3-3.0 so it could be considered "regular" but it is the heaviest non-fatbike tube I've every picked up.
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    Converting mine to tubeless this weekend (have been putting it off for a while). Good to know there's some real weight to be saved.

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    Took one of these out for a demo yesterday. It was hard to evaluate the traction, as it was a wet leaf riding surface, but there were a couple occasions where I could tell that I was saved by the fattish tires. I'm sold on the plus tire. What was a deal-breaker for me was the low bottom bracket. It wasn't just rock gardens where I was pedal striking, it was any sharp-change to a steep ramp. It was worse than my 1996 Stumpjumper - on account of the longer cranks and the squishy tires. I would expect this issue out of companies rushing to convert a FS 29er frame to 27.5+, as the BB drop on the existing front triangle, but to design a wholly new frame like this is mystifying to me.

    It was definitely a fun bike overall, but there are large sections of my favorite trails that became unridable for this strangely designed spec. I'm going to have to wait on the next batch of +bikes to come along (and maybe check-out the Stache in the meantime).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paranoid_Android View Post
    Converting mine to tubeless this weekend (have been putting it off for a while). Good to know there's some real weight to be saved.
    How did you like the change? Running a taller gear now? Any improvement to traction/tracking, as you gain flexibility to tweak the tire pressures?

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    Quote Originally Posted by phride View Post
    How did you like the change? Running a taller gear now? Any improvement to traction/tracking, as you gain flexibility to tweak the tire pressures?

    I've been too sick to ride The conversion was a breeze though! The rims came pre-taped and ready to go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phride View Post
    Took one of these out for a demo yesterday. It was hard to evaluate the traction, as it was a wet leaf riding surface, but there were a couple occasions where I could tell that I was saved by the fattish tires. I'm sold on the plus tire. What was a deal-breaker for me was the low bottom bracket. It wasn't just rock gardens where I was pedal striking, it was any sharp-change to a steep ramp. It was worse than my 1996 Stumpjumper - on account of the longer cranks and the squishy tires. I would expect this issue out of companies rushing to convert a FS 29er frame to 27.5+, as the BB drop on the existing front triangle, but to design a wholly new frame like this is mystifying to me.

    It was definitely a fun bike overall, but there are large sections of my favorite trails that became unridable for this strangely designed spec. I'm going to have to wait on the next batch of +bikes to come along (and maybe check-out the Stache in the meantime).
    Hello. I am interested in purchasing the Fuse Comp. I was able to demo it for a good three hours and pretty technical terrain and had a blast. I am curious about Bottom Bracket height and how much higher it should be and how much better it could be if it was higher. I did have some trouble going over some logs but that I would say was my riding ability. I had no trouble over rock gardens. Would the Stache be much different? I would like to see one in person and demo if possible but right now no local bike shops have them in stock and may just bring them in if customers orders one only. Any insight would be appreciated as I have been riding road the last few years with exception of borrowing a mountain bike once or twice in the fall/winter. I would like to supplement my road riding this winter with a hardtail plus size mountain bike and the Fuse Comp seems like a decent value/ price at $1,600.

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    BB Height

    Trek 29+ 313 mm

    Cannondale Beast Of The East 27.5+ 309 mm

    Specialized 27.5+ 305.5 mm

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    I rented the Trek Stache 7 29+ three times (2+ hour rides) before I bought the Fuse Comp. Why? I'm a big 29er fan and thought I would prefer the 29er +. Nope, it was super fast on the downhill, but slow up hill and slow around tight corners (think Monster truck with 30.6" real tire size).

    I rode the Fuse on the street in front of the Bike shop and knew within the first 100' feet this was the bike for me.

    Fast and nimble in the flats and downhill and a very good climber. It will go through chunky rocky areas like no other bike I've had. (15 rides so far)

    I can't say enough positive about this bike. Yes, at $1,600 its a very good value.

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    Low pressure gauge $9 (1-15#) I run 14 front & 15 rear for now

    Over time I will upgrade more as more plus size parts hit the market

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    Quote Originally Posted by phride View Post
    What was a deal-breaker for me was the low bottom bracket. It wasn't just rock gardens where I was pedal striking, it was any sharp-change to a steep ramp.
    I don't know how much experience you have with current bikes with "modern" geometry, but the long, low, & slack geometry is here to stay and low bottom brackets are a key part of the geo. For example, my Santa Cruz Nomad has a 340mm bb height on a 165 mm travel bike. I'm less than 300mm when sagged. This is essentially the same as the Fuse. I highly doubt that you will find a new bike with a much higher bb, but I could be wrong. The good thing is you can adjust to riding with the lower bb height pretty quickly.
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    Funny, it's all a matter of perspective. I'm coming from a XC bike, so what we view as sluggish/nimble differs. I found the Fuse a little sluggish around tight corners, but not so much that a change in riding style (i.e., setting-up my turns better/different) wouldn't fix that in 9 out of 10 spots. It definitely seems a better value than the Stache, but that is an altogether different animal. The Fuse did incredibly well in the rock gardens through which I could carry speed without having to pedal constantly, so much so that jumbled, rocky descents that would make a mess of me on a FS 29er, I glided through without even thinking about the dropper post on the Fuse. Unfortunately, the low BB made it a step backwards on my favorite climbs, so I'm going to wait to see if some of the newer 27.5+ bikes hit the mark for me. The 6Fattie FSR is next in line. Unspung, it's nominally 1-inch taller at the BB, but a chunk of that will get eaten up under weight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phride View Post
    The 6Fattie FSR is next in line. Unspung, it's nominally 1-inch taller at the BB, but a chunk of that will get eaten up under weight.
    I would expect the additional bb drop on 135mm FS bike to be somewhere around 30-40mm depending on the bike and how much sag you like. So the 6Fattie FSR might have a lower effective bb height.
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnD View Post
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    Trek 29+ 313 mm

    Cannondale Beast Of The East 27.5+ 309 mm

    Specialized 27.5+ 305.5 mm

    Is it me or are the BB heights between the Fuse (305.5mm) and Stache (313mm) miniminal?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob T View Post
    Is it me or are the BB heights between the Fuse (305.5mm) and Stache (313mm) miniminal?
    Sounds (in agreement with davemk's post) from the reviews like the SJ FSR 6Fattie is in the same boat. That said, folks have been converting their 29ers to 27.5+ for the better part of a year now, and they are probably not that much higher once the smaller diameter, squishier tire is factored-in. The Stache & Fuse just look worse because they don't need to account for as much sag as the FS bikes.

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    The fuse bb is only 4.5 mm lower than my rockhopper 29. I have virtually zero pedals strikes on that rockhopper with 175mm cranks.
    I may be wrong but I think the lower bb comes from the slacker head tube angle , not sure.


    It won't be long before somebody will come along on mtbr with a 140mm on their Fuse. looking forward to that report...

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnD View Post
    The fuse bb is only 4.5 mm lower than my rockhopper 29. I have virtually zero pedals strikes on that rockhopper with 175mm cranks.
    I may be wrong but I think the lower bb comes from the slacker head tube angle , not sure.
    The real difference comes when you sit on the bike and the 12psi rear tire that you'd be running sags a centimeter or more.

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    my brother just picked up an expert in large .. it's pretty effin sweet .. lots of tire clearance

    I like the new Specy droppers .. they work great

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    his came with Scrapers too .. not Roval

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob T View Post
    Is it me or are the BB heights between the Fuse (305.5mm) and Stache (313mm) miniminal?
    The Stache at 313 is the rigid. The Stache with the manitou fork is listed at 329. So it's almost an inch higher comparing the trek v spec models with front suspension.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rushman3 View Post
    I rented the Trek Stache 7 29+ three times (2+ hour rides) before I bought the Fuse Comp. Why? I'm a big 29er fan and thought I would prefer the 29er +. Nope, it was super fast on the downhill, but slow up hill and slow around tight corners (think Monster truck with 30.6" real tire size).
    The Fuse has a longer wheelbase than the Stache.

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    I took my Fuse for a spin around the neighbourhood last night and blew the rear tyre off the rim doing a small bunnyhop off a gutter. I had 20PSI in the tyres, too. I'm not sure how well these will work for me without tubes

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    I've gone tubeless on mine and am running 15 in front and 16 in back. Mine has been solid so far going off one foot drops as well as going on the green downhill runs at Keystone (which I must say was a blast). 20 seems high and more likely to have blow out issues. I'm also on the Roval rims, but I'm not sure how much of a difference that makes.

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    20PSI is just what I was running last night because I was riding pavement. I normally run much lower. I'm pretty damn heavy, too.

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    Wow... I'm 205 lbs, I've been running 15 psi front & back tubeless for the last month on the scrapper rims. I've be riding on some pretty chunky trails with 2-3 foot drops with good landings. I haven't even burped my tires yet. I've bee shocked at how solid the wheels have been.

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    I'm 70pounds heavier than you. Very tall.

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    just picked up a fuse pro, have three rides on it. I weigh 220# and am running 17psi in the rear and 16-15psi in the front. I feel I need to run about 17.5psi in the rear maybe. this bike rides more like a 29er than a 27.5. I am trying to find the new edge of the cornering envelope, its pretty dry here so I am taking it slow. Fun bike so far!

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    Quote Originally Posted by crashedupderby View Post
    just picked up a fuse pro, have three rides on it. I weigh 220# and am running 17psi in the rear and 16-15psi in the front. I feel I need to run about 17.5psi in the rear maybe. this bike rides more like a 29er than a 27.5. I am trying to find the new edge of the cornering envelope, its pretty dry here so I am taking it slow. Fun bike so far!
    pics or it didn't happen !

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    Just ordered my wife a Ruze Comp for Christmas. My LBS snagged one out of the October shipment just in case they sell out, they'll use it as a display bike til Christmas.

    My wife has zero riding experience except for when was a kid, but lately she expressed interest in riding with me and the kids (6 y.o. who trail rides with me and a 3 y.o. who is about to move up to a Spawn Furi). This *may* be overkill, but she can grow into it, plus there isn't anything I'd upgrade compared to like a Jynx or a Jett, plus it is 1x, I see no point in teaching her 2x like on the Jynx when 1x is taking over.

    Side note: In Spring I'm taking delivery of a Stumpy FSR Carbon Comp 6fattie, and that has the narrower rims, so I can swap wheels with her bike if we, you know, think the wider wheels are better for my Stumpy

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    I'm considering on for a jump bike, looks good on paper, anyone take one to a jump park?

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    Specialized Fuse 6Fattie

    After I converted mine to tubeless I did a small gutter jump and blew the rear tyre off the rim. Turns out I stretched and damaged the bead. Nothing bad looking but not it won't hold air tubeless so I have to go back to using tubes in the rear or buying a $100 tyre. Even pressing lightly on on the bead sends fluid squirmy out everywhere. Disappointed I'll try Maxxis Chronicle next.

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    Will a 3.5 fit ?

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    Tech, maybe in the front, for sure not the rear.

    PS. I went tubeless and is a really easy to convert and no problems so far

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    Thx rushman3,wider front is a good combo! just purchased a Fuse! I was torn going full fat but here on Eastern Pa snow is funky and was looking at 4" max, really want more for more dirt and should do ok on some snow conditions as well. the geometry is spot on for my needs!!!

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    Tech, I plan on putting a wider tire on the front and after checking all the products announced at Interbike, there are many new 27.5+ tires coming out soon.

    I went tubeless and at the moment running 14# rear and 13# front (my wt.195#). Needed a new gauge that went between 0-15#. Its amazing I can feel 1/2# difference in tire pressure riding.

    The Ground Controls are really good and low cost ($55) and when they are available at the Specialized web site, I will pick up some Purgatory 27.5 x 3.00 tires.

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    rushman,were at same weight,what is your overall impression so far on the Fuse? Pannaracer has a 3.5 .

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    Should be going to the bike park soon. With a fuse pro .. will report back

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    Bought the Comp with RF Turbine cranks and 30t NW chainring plus Xt plus rear derail and saint shifter for a swinging deal,already set up tubeless. Will see how I like the Suntour fork and maybe upgrade that. Will see also about tektro brakes get mixed reviews about them.

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    Tec, The stock brakes are Ok, very usable, but will upgrade to XT with time.

    The Ground controls work well here in Tahoe and Bend Oregon, where its dry, dusty with some rock gardens. On dirt they stick like glue. Prepare to use your brakes a lot less, I keep pushing the speed into cruves and it feels like a slot car railing at speed.

    As I get to know the bike, its more fun with every new ride.

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    Specialized Fuse 6Fattie

    Here's a few more photos of my Fuse Expert. I've converted the wheels to tubeless with Stan's valves/fluid (very happy the rims came pre-taped!), added Shimano Saint M820 brakes with 203mm/180mm IceTech rotors, super wide Enve carbon riser bar, 70mm Syntace Megaforce 2 stem, Ergon GE1 grips, RaceFace crank boots, XTR Race pedals, Specialized IR Command Post with the lever from a KS LEV, Thomson seatpost clamp, Specialized SWAT Zee-cage with tool, Specialised Top Cap Chain Tool, Titanium hardware throughout. Regreased and properly tensioned the rear wheel bearings which came so tight they wouldn't turn at all.




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    How does sizing fit with everyone! I just purchased a mediun fom a chap used who is 6'2 with 32" inseam,I have same inseam but am 5" 11. he said large felt to big.I had a 2013 Camber Evo also in medium,generally I run large frames.Specialized seems to run their sizing bigger then other bike .companies .

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    I like the large .. am 6-1 with 31" inseam

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    Pics of rear tire clearance please and front with Suntour fork.

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    Oh here's the weight. This is with a tube in the rear as I damaged the bead and it won't run tubeless for now. A little heavier than I originally thought but plenty light for a XXL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by techfersure View Post
    Pics of rear tire clearance please and front with Suntour fork.
    I don't have the Suntour fork but here's the rear tyre clearance. Plenty at the seatstays, a little at the chainstays.

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    Picked mine up yesterday. First ride was amazing!

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    Has anyone gone from full fat to this size?
    We are looking at the ruze and fuze but, only ride full fat now.
    Is it just less of the same thing?

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    rob1208, I can weigh mine tomorrow with the swat bottle cage on it and tubeless if that helps?

    1spd, that's way to subjective for me to give you a definitive answer. It definitely has less float in soft sand. Too new to tell you about snow. For me it's way more nimble, faster to get up to speed yet maintains the truck like ability to crush obstacles. I seriously don't worry about picking lines as much as I just try to maintain momentum and let the bike do the rest. I'm in love with mine, been riding it a lot since I got it in September. You should absolutely test ride it to see if it's for you guys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elmar View Post
    rob1208, I can weigh mine tomorrow with the swat bottle cage on it and tubeless if that helps?

    1spd, that's way to subjective for me to give you a definitive answer. It definitely has less float in soft sand. Too new to tell you about snow. For me it's way more nimble, faster to get up to speed yet maintains the truck like ability to crush obstacles. I seriously don't worry about picking lines as much as I just try to maintain momentum and let the bike do the rest. I'm in love with mine, been riding it a lot since I got it in September. You should absolutely test ride it to see if it's for you guys.
    Totally agree! I'm coming from a long travel 26 so it's quite a difference for me.

    And just as a reference, my large fuse comp weighed in at ~14kg with stock pedals and a clunky bottle cage my lbs put on.

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    I am struggling with a hard tail 27.5+ and a full sus 27.5.

    There is no place close to "test ride" any so I have to buy on faith....

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    [QUOTE=elmar;12252722]rob1208, I can weigh mine tomorrow with the swat bottle cage on it and tubeless if that helps?

    That would be awesome - thanks
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    I'm right at 29lbs but I don't think that's accurate. I think it's a good 1-1.5 less. I'll see if the shops around here have a better scale


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    My Comp comes in at 28.4 tubeless, RF Deus cranks, Saint shifter and Xt Plus derailleur.

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    Quote Originally Posted by techfersure View Post
    My Comp comes in at 28.4 tubeless, RF Deus cranks, Saint shifter and Xt Plus derailleur.
    What size?

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    Medium, and fits perfect,I'm 5' 11" with 33" inseam, this is the second Specialized I've owned and that too was a medium. I have a Mach 6 and a Trek Superfly both large, seems Specialized frames run bigger then others. Anyone else experience this with fit ?

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    Anyone know the rear. der. hanger part number, for a spare?
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    Or if a bigger NW chainring is available? The Stout cranks are 76bcd, not sure if the SRAM rings are the same size. N/W oval would be great.....
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    Scottay, Nice bike. cool pics. Where is that?

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    Fuse Comp with upgrades

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    Glad I took a chance on it, but helped that price was right! A real pleasure to ride really responsive in all terrain, especially like the geometry for technical and features very stable on technical climbs too.

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    Scottay: I see you upgraded to the Fox 34. How has it changed the ride?

    Thanks

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    Thanks. The pics are in Socal, Santa Clarita area.
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    I replaced the fork before the first ride. This is a replacement for my Yellie Screamy, so I knew it was gonna see some good chunk and fast DH sections. Bike is very capable and eats up all rocks and ruts in it path. Handles well too in tight swoopy sections and fast flowy stuff. Wheelies/manuals great!
    Getting lots of chain slap, even with the protector that came on the bike. It may be the weak X7 rear der? I think the chain has a couple too many links it it also. I wrapped more rubber on it, seems better now.
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    Scottay: So the 34 is 110 boost as well as the 32, curious about tire clearance.

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    anyone know the weight of the fuze pro medium out the box?
    LBS weighed my med stock pro at 28 lb 6 oz, with tubes and stock pedals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by techfersure View Post
    Scottay: So the 34 is 110 boost as well as the 32, curious about tire clearance.
    Yes, its also Boost. Plenty of clearance, click on the pics I posted, you should be able to see the top of the fork pretty well. Stock i45 Scraper and tire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by techfersure View Post
    Medium, and fits perfect,I'm 5' 11" with 33" inseam, this is the second Specialized I've owned and that too was a medium. I have a Mach 6 and a Trek Superfly both large, seems Specialized frames run bigger then others. Anyone else experience this with fit ?
    I'm about the exact same size and went with a large. Medium would feel too small for me I think.

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    So hey everyone, my wife's Ruze Comp arrived at the shop, and the shop was assembling it and the chain was cut wayyyy too short at the factory.

    Noticing this caused them to notice that the chain is like super thick and the chain ring has super thick teeth- they were going to put a SRAM chain on it but it wouldn't fit over the ring teeth!

    They had to take pics and send them to Specialized who were unaware of this.

    Sooooo beware anyone who has the same chain and chain ring as the Ruze Comp, if you need a chain replacement it might be...weird. They are probably going to comp me an XX1 ring or something the shop said so we can put a normal SRAM 1050 chain on it.

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    Is it a narrow wide cog?

    Probably trying to put the chain on without lineing up the narrow and wide so it meshes.
    Shops also like to put full length chains on so the chain may be the right size as it is (only has to wrap the large cog). Some shops have no knowledge what so ever, so would not surprise me at all if this is the case.

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    No, the shop is 100% legit, they are super attentive and MTB oriented. I did out of curiosity ask them about the narrow-wide profile though, they did check that.

    The KMC chain, it wraps around the 28T front ring just fine. However, when they realized it was too short (pic of the too short chain below) when they tried to put another 10 speed chain on it (SRAM 1050) the SRAM chain didn't wrap around as many teeth on the front ring. So the weird part is that the chain that came with the bike fit perfectly...

    So then in essence, that means that both the chain and the front ring are wacky? So they're going to try a 1050 with a different ring per Specialized.

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    Chain looks like it would work in that picture (still room for the mech to come up to take the big cog). Maybe could add a link. Would have to see a picture of it in the small cog.
    If you get a longer chain put on then check that there is still sufficent chain tension in the smallest rear cog.
    Don't understand how the other chain wrapped less teath? Was it not meshing with the cog? being held off?
    Can't see how there could be a problem unless chains or cogs are bent.

    Interested to hear the results off this.
    Hope they get it sorted for you soon.

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    I agree, it would probably work at that length. Mine is longer, I think that may be one reason I get so much chain slap/noise. But I want to get a larger chainring, so it will be ok till then. Just wrapped the stays better.
    Lemme know how that SRAM chainring works. The 76 BCD they used isnt real common.
    BTW, I had my rear wheel off and noticed it would barely spin in my hands. Bearings were super tight. May wanna check that after a few rides. My wheel was never very true from the factory, another thing to keep an eye on.

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    @ Scottay

    Would you shed some light on the similarity and differences between the Yelli and Fuse? Very interested in both bikes. You mentioned that the Fuse handles well which is one of my concerns when comparing with the Yelli.

    I've been in the market for a FUN hardtail, capable of 29er and 650B+, and I've been looking at:
    EPO
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    Honzo AL 2016
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    Fuse/Ruze

    Everyday I lean towards a different bike, not one bike is the clear winner for me so far. The winner for today is the Fuse, although not a fan of its standover height.

    Anyone having trouble with the Fuse's standover height?
    I'm 5'8" with 31" inseam without shoes. My current bike has 29.5" standover height and I feel like that's about as high as I'm comfortable with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by onlybirdman View Post

    Everyday I lean towards a different bike, not one bike is the clear winner for me so far. The winner for today is the Fuse, although not a fan of its standover height.

    Anyone having trouble with the Fuse's standover height?
    I'm 5'8" with 31" inseam without shoes. My current bike has 29.5" standover height and I feel like that's about as high as I'm comfortable with.

    Being 5'5" with 29 inseam, I also have a hard time getting sufficient standover. Small frames will come with shortened cranks or less travel fork, that is why I went with a Medium Fuse. I have enough clearance for stand over, but no extra. I find that I really don't need anymore. When I bail on a technical section it is off to the side. Other bikes, for example the Stache, I could not even stand over. On the Medium, I find the reach is well within my range, and I actually have the seat set back a bit.

    I need some suggestions. I have an "Expert" and I'm finding it to be rather heavy. I'm actually slower on it than my FS 26er. Trying to decide if it could be lightened up without spending a fortune. The scrapers are heavy, but a wheelset is too expensive and I want the wide profile. Maybe switch the stout cranks for X0? Any other suggestions?

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    Trail,

    I have the Fuse Comp (its was the Red color that sold me). Try a Carbon bar, go tubeless (super easy) and play with the tire pressure to start. I got the Niner RDO carbon bar that came at 780, but I cut it down to 760.

    Next spring, I will get some wide carbon wheels and check out what new tires that will be available.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trailnimal View Post
    Being 5'5" with 29 inseam, I also have a hard time getting sufficient standover. Small frames will come with shortened cranks or less travel fork, that is why I went with a Medium Fuse. I have enough clearance for stand over, but no extra. I find that I really don't need anymore. When I bail on a technical section it is off to the side. Other bikes, for example the Stache, I could not even stand over. On the Medium, I find the reach is well within my range, and I actually have the seat set back a bit.

    I need some suggestions. I have an "Expert" and I'm finding it to be rather heavy. I'm actually slower on it than my FS 26er. Trying to decide if it could be lightened up without spending a fortune. The scrapers are heavy, but a wheelset is too expensive and I want the wide profile. Maybe switch the stout cranks for X0? Any other suggestions?
    Bars, pedals, tubeless would certainly save you some weight.

    On Saturday I brought my comp in to the dealer because of head set noise. Bottom bearing was already totally shot and the top bearing was filled with sand. I don't live in a very Sandy area so that's a bit of a surprise. Repaired under warranty. Keep those bearings greased guys!

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    Quote Originally Posted by onlybirdman View Post
    @ Scottay

    Would you shed some light on the similarity and differences between the Yelli and Fuse? Very interested in both bikes. You mentioned that the Fuse handles well which is one of my concerns when comparing with the Yelli.
    .........

    Everyday I lean towards a different bike, not one bike is the clear winner for me so far. The winner for today is the Fuse, although not a fan of its standover height.

    Anyone having trouble with the Fuse's standover height?
    I'm 5'8" with 31" inseam without shoes. My current bike has 29.5" standover height and I feel like that's about as high as I'm comfortable with.
    Sorry for slow reply.... the major "Plus " for me was added plushness at the rear. And then the wider tires to handle rutts and added grip. It also feels shorter/smaller to me. New bike mojo probably comes into play also. lol
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    I wouldnt consider standover when frame shopping. But thats just me.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unit91MS View Post
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    On Saturday I brought my comp in to the dealer because of head set noise. Bottom bearing was already totally shot and the top bearing was filled with sand. I don't live in a very Sandy area so that's a bit of a surprise. Repaired under warranty. Keep those bearings greased guys!

    Headset noise...like grinding? How did they repair it....just added grease? Are they sealed bearings?..
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    I posted earlier about my rear hub barely spinning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trailnimal View Post
    ....

    I need some suggestions. I have an "Expert" and I'm finding it to be rather heavy... Maybe switch the stout cranks for X0? Any other suggestions?
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    I would like to switch out cranks too. Pretty sure the Stouts are CrMo.
    Anyone got info on what cranks would fit? I'm guessing Fatbike cranks are too wide...

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    Quote Originally Posted by scottay View Post
    Headset noise...like grinding? How did they repair it....just added grease? Are they sealed bearings?..
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    I posted earlier about my rear hub barely spinning.
    Yeah, I'd describe it as a gritty or grinding sound. Just didn't seem right. The bottom one had to be replaced. The top could be cleaned and regreased. I unfortunately didn't look close enough at the old bearing, but the mechanic told me they weren't sealed.

    Quote Originally Posted by scottay View Post
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    I would like to switch out cranks too. Pretty sure the Stouts are CrMo.
    Anyone got info on what cranks would fit? I'm guessing Fatbike cranks are too wide...
    I'd guess most cranks with a 30 mm spindle would fit. I'm not sure how many boost specific crank sets exist yet though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unit91MS View Post
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    I'd guess most cranks with a 30 mm spindle would fit. I'm not sure how many boost specific crank sets exist yet though.
    Thanks for the bearing info.
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    As far as cranks, boost would require a wider frame and this frame has plenty of tire clearance. Also my cranks have tons of clearance where they pass the chainstays. All indicators to me that the cranks are wider that normal......
    Hoping a std, crankset will fit. Only way to find out for sure is to pull it and measure I guess.....

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    Boost cranks are the same width. Same q factor.
    The only difference it places the chain ring/rings 3mm further outboard.

    You can use a standard crankset no problem.
    Infact my Trek Stache 5 29+ came with single ring cranks that are non boost.
    I think a standard crank may actually work better as the rings are nearer the big end of the cassette. Especially with the bigger low gear rings now being used (40/42T).

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    Good info, thx.
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    Fuse sizing

    Quote Originally Posted by techfersure View Post
    How does sizing fit with everyone! I just purchased a mediun fom a chap used who is 6'2 with 32" inseam,I have same inseam but am 5" 11. he said large felt to big.I had a 2013 Camber Evo also in medium,generally I run large frames.Specialized seems to run their sizing bigger then other bike .companies .
    I'm just under 5' 11" and went with a medium. I have normal-ish proportions, longer in torso and arms if anything. Large felt too long for me...felt like it was XC race bike sizing for me, stretched out.

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    Just did a twenty miler on it and the fit is spot on,running a 55 mm stem.

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    How tall are you?

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    5' 11" with 33" inseam,thought I was a 32" inseam but had some pants fitted and now have an accurate measurement.

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    5 ten with a 33 inseam. Large feels great with a 55 stem. Riding it hard , love the bike.
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    Have dropped the chain a coupla times thru some chunky sections.

    Anyone got suggestions for a chain guide? No front der. mount.....

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    Large felt to long and stretched out. But it is a personal thing and how you like bike to perform.

    I have yet to drop a chain,but then I use the Shimano Xt plus and RF narrow wide ring.

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    The stock ring is Narrow/wide and the x7 rear der. is clutch type. But I think it may be too weak. I have a XT set-up I may throw on.....or a short cage Zee.

    Standard upper guides dont look like they will fit because the frame splits just aft of the BB, right where the guide will sit. I ordered a smaller version like a Pauls Keeper, but not sure it will extend outboard far enuff.

    I mounted a Binicon C-guide on the bottom for now.

    I mounted a Sram N/W ring on the Stout cranks. Fit well after grinding a lil off the spider arms. Chain was too snug tho. A 32T would have fit. That may be another reason for dropping the chain, its too long for the 30T it came with.

    Also looks like std cranks will fit as someone else suggested. Held mine next to some I had laying around. Except for being PF30, looked real close to the same measurements.

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    Running RF Deus cranks 170mm.like this set up with 30t NW,been hitting it hard on some long steep descents with step downs and lots of poppers,so far chain is holding fine,will see as it wears. XT Plus is definitely an improvement over the stock Sram.

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    I rented a Fuse 6Fattie Comp over the holiday weekend, and thought I'd post another short review.

    Fit:
    I'm 6'-1", 170lb and rode a large. It's definitely the longest top-tube, shortest stem combo I've tried. I think I could get used to the more forward riding position, but the 740mm wide handlebars were a drawback. I was riding in the woods around Bend, OR, and knocked several trees that I don't think I would have with the slightly narrower bars I have on my other bikes. I had to slow down more when the clearance got tight, and the handling seemed slower having your hands out so wide. I think the benefit of wider bar hit the point of diminishing returns at this size. I run 690mm bars on my 29er, and that seems a lot more reasonable to my arms. Otherwise, the fit was fine once I got the seat to the right height.

    The first trail I rode was relatively tame. smooth, not real steep, and had some berms (Mrazek for those familiar with it). I didn't really notice any advantage to the 27.5+ format on that trail. It didn't climb any better, traction wasn't really an issue, and it was a bit slower handling do to the extra mass. I'd have probably preferred the trail on one of my 29ers to be honest. I did mess around with the air pressure in the tires, and eventually got it too low. Coming as a rental bike, it had tubes of course, and I don't think that helped at all.

    The 2nd trail I rode was steeper, had some loose areas (Cline buttes). I rode it twice, and it was snowy (1-2") the second day. I didn't have a pressure gage, but pumped up the tires some from the previous ride, and they seemed better, but still not that plush (or any plusher than my 29er with 2.4" tires, but I still blame the tubes for that). But the bike overall did a lot better on this type of terrain. I could tell the traction was better than my regular 29er, but not as good as my fatbike with Nate tires, as would be expected. But it did roll a lot better than Nates. I was faster on it than on my fat bike the previous year, but since the fatibike was rigid, no surprise there. I had no problems with traction in the little bit of snow either.

    Overall, would I take it over my 29er (Full suspension)- No, the FS Niner does a better job on the rocky, steep stuff, takes hits better, and in a lot of situations I think is more fun. Would I take it over my fatbike? No, I don't think in the end the 3" tires would cut it for a lot of soft-situation riding compared to full fatties. If I could only have one bike, then I might think about it, as it does most of the things of those other two bikes, just not as well. But I think for me, it's too much overlap with what I already have, so I'll try a 29+ next.

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    Welp, just picked up my wife's Christmas present... she isn't a cyclist but we live right near some really nice gravel trails and mild dirt singletrack, and I'm hoping now that my kids are riding she will join us. Maybe she'll progress to more advanced trail riding, who knows. This present could be awesome, or a dud

    I added some pink lock on grips to spice it up, and Bennies pedals, and my shop surprised me with a Command Post upgrade from the Chinese dropper post (I am a super good customer lol). I like it. Will see how much she rides it before going tubeless.

    I could have gotten a Jynx or something but my thinking was the plus tires will give added traction, and the Ruze was 1X which will making shifting easier. Better to err on the overkill side instead of under-equipping her.

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    Jared - Nice looking Ruze with the pink grips. Great gift choice!

    You should go tubeless right away. The tubes are heavy, 290g each, so you save almost 200g per wheel rotating mass using Stans or equivalent. That's noticeable, and it will increase the odds she'll enjoy it and want to keep riding with you. As we know - happy wife, happy life

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    Quote Originally Posted by levity View Post
    Jared - Nice looking Ruze with the pink grips. Great gift choice!

    You should go tubeless right away. The tubes are heavy, 290g each, so you save almost 200g per wheel rotating mass using Stans or equivalent. That's noticeable, and it will increase the odds she'll enjoy it and want to keep riding with you. As we know - happy wife, happy life
    Oh for sure about the tubeless, but first I wanna see if she rides it a lot during the winter, if not I'll just go tubeless in spring. Because either way I'll have to take it to the shop in spring for Stan's, either for fresh if I go tubeless now, or to convert it for the first time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XJaredX View Post
    Oh for sure about the tubeless, but first I wanna see if she rides it a lot during the winter, if not I'll just go tubeless in spring. Because either way I'll have to take it to the shop in spring for Stan's, either for fresh if I go tubeless now, or to convert it for the first time.
    I made my new fuse tubeless tuesday evening, it went very easy. But yesterday when I let som air out to find my perfect pressure it burped all te time. When I squeeze the tire on the side you can hear air coming out. It's the WTB Scraper i45 rim with the standard ground control 3.0 tire. I have done 120ml of Stan's fluid in it.

    Anyone any idea?

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    Quote Originally Posted by zenegroen View Post
    I made my new fuse tubeless tuesday evening, it went very easy. But yesterday when I let som air out to find my perfect pressure it burped all te time. When I squeeze the tire on the side you can hear air coming out. It's the WTB Scraper i45 rim with the standard ground control 3.0 tire. I have done 120ml of Stan's fluid in it.

    Anyone any idea?
    Get a Schwalbe Procore Kit. You can find it on Ebay, since the distribution to stores is very slow.
    It does the job very well, preventing air leaks when the tire leans much on the rim and protecting the rim itself against pinch flats that could damage it.
    You can also halve the amount of latex that are using currently.
    I'm using it on Stumpjumper 6FATTIE with ground control 3.0 tire on 29mm roval traverse rim.

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    I don't want a procore kit. It has to work on my rim in combination with this tire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zenegroen View Post
    I don't want a procore kit. It has to work on my rim in combination with this tire.
    Hi zenegroen, why don't you want it?
    It works very fine and can solve the issue you have complained. It worked for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zenegroen View Post
    I made my new fuse tubeless tuesday evening, it went very easy. But yesterday when I let som air out to find my perfect pressure it burped all te time. When I squeeze the tire on the side you can hear air coming out. It's the WTB Scraper i45 rim with the standard ground control 3.0 tire. I have done 120ml of Stan's fluid in it.

    Anyone any idea?
    Don't under why your are having issues holding air,mine works fine with Stans,even sitting a week without use. Just rotated my rear inflated it,sealed right up. Make sure your tire is seated.

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    It is holding air that's not the problem. But when I squeeze the side it comes lose and some Stan escapes. I pumped up the tire yesterday evening tot 2,5 bar.

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    Weird,I just did the tire squeeze multiple times,no issues or leaks.

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    Maybe I got the pressure to low. I will check it out this evening (Netherlands). What pressure do you got?

    Thanks for your reply!

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    16 psi front 18 psi rear

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    Ok in the Netherlands we use bar. Thats 1.1 BAR front and 1.2 REAR. My weight is 108KG (238LBS).

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    195lbs with gear for me.

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    I try some changing in pressure tonight thank you!

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    Hope it works out for you. Like the stock tires,but going to move onto Schwalbe Nobby Nics in near future, more aggressive tread and softer compound for all the rock and roots in my area.

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    Anybody else used different tires? My rear is going fast....
    NN looks like a good choice. Spendy tho.
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    Like Tech said, make sure the beads are fully seated by pumping up to max psi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scottay View Post
    Anybody else used different tires? My rear is going fast....
    NN looks like a good choice. Spendy tho.
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    Like Tech said, make sure the beads are fully seated by pumping up to max psi.
    This. You should inflate it to much more than your riding pressure to ensure a good seal. Leave that overnight and then drop the pressure to ride.

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    As others have said, pump it up to 20 PSI and make sure it has completely seated on the bead.


    On the Ground Control tires, I notice mine are porous and the Stans weeps out constantly. I had to add more sealant. I also find that they have a fair amount of rolling resistance, great traction, but not a fast tire.

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    I would say go more than 20 to seal the bead, however many bar that is. You should hear it pop in at some point. If you can burp it by hand you haven't gotten the bead in correctly. Even deflated, it takes a little force to get the bead off the rim if it is sealed properly.

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    Should I buy a buddies used Pro for $2700(ridden hard with some frame scratches but otherwise rides like a dream) or go new on an Expert for less?
    thanks

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    MSRP is $3100 on the Pro. Used bike should be more of a discount I would think.
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    whats a reasonable price for a used bike like this? Its seen one really long ride(500miles) and a few shorties.

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    Tons of variables, but like cars, used bikes drop in value 30-50%.
    New bikes come with a warranty.....

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    Yesterday I got the pressure on 1,5 bar (21,7 PSI). I made a nightride and the tires were hold nice on the rim. Next time I try 1,5 bar but maybe thats to hard with my weight of 108kg.

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    The Fuse Pro is selling for under $3,000 new. He won't get over $2,400 for that unless you give it to him. At that price, it's a decent deal, but I'd get the Norco Torrent ($2,450) before I'd get a new Fuse. I'm sure it's a heavier beast than the Pro, but otherwise compares favorably to the Fuse to my mind.

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    Or look for a used Comp,I bought one last fall for 1075.00 in as new condition with RF Deus cranks and XT/Saint derail, shifter upgrades plus Centerline rotors. Added Renthal bars and Easton Haven stem.Just picked up a Fox 34 Float for 500.00.I have a total 1670.00 invested in it.If you don't mind searching for deals and are mechanical you can save mucho bucks and customize one to your liking. The Fuse is a hell of a lot of fun,a great play,exploration bike.

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    Just picked up a Bridger,what would really excite me would be the Vigilante in 3.0 !

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    That tire has been available for months!

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    Fuse Expert XL with Fox 34

    Quote Originally Posted by techfersure View Post
    Scottay: So the 34 is 110 boost as well as the 32, curious about tire clearance.
    So I have a Specialized Fuse Expert size XL and I am buying the new Fox 34 for it. I am debating on the travel options. I am leaning towards getting the 140mm option or should I keep it at 120mm?

    Also, I am paying $700 for the fork new. Is that a good deal?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tonybah View Post
    So I have a Specialized Fuse Expert size XL and I am buying the new Fox 34 for it. I am debating on the travel options. I am leaning towards getting the 140mm option or should I keep it at 120mm?

    Also, I am paying $700 for the fork new. Is that a good deal?
    I just paid 400.00 new never ridden shipped,take off of a 6fattie.On ebay they are averaging 500.00-600.00 as take offs,but saw go for 449.00 recently. Bought mine on Pinkbike.

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    you are seeing them that low for a FOX 34 2016 Factory Series? Thanks for the help.

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    I don't know how the Fuse will handle with a longer front end. The higher front end will slack it out to ~66 degrees and may lighten the front end enough that the steering will be less precise. I felt like tires wandered somewhat already when I demoed the Fuse, but it was my first day on a plus bike, so it may have been pilot error. Folks who have spent more time on their Fuse should be able to provide a better perspective, but if you aren't going for a longer-travel fork, there's probably no reason to switch-out the Magnum. By all accounts, it's a plush, sturdy, and highly adjustable fork.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tonybah View Post
    you are seeing them that low for a FOX 34 2016 Factory Series? Thanks for the help.
    He's not talking a new in the box fork never ridden. Techfersure is talking about "new" "take-off" forks which could be a new OEM fork in a plastic bag that was sold off as excess inventory. It could also be that someone bought a bike and decided they didn't like the stock fork for whatever reason and took it off. In this case "new" and "never ridden" can and do have several different meanings. "Never ridden" could mean "only once", "in the parking lot" or "never ridden hard".

    These are all over ebay and no they aren't going to be new 2016 product most likely. These have no warranty. You are partially paying for a warranty/factory support when buying new in the box. You get what you pay for.

    I would also keep the same travel. Why increase the travel?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTR-33 View Post
    He's not talking a new in the box fork never ridden. Techfersure is talking about "new" "take-off" forks which could be a new OEM fork in a plastic bag that was sold off as excess inventory. It could also be that someone bought a bike and decided they didn't like the stock fork for whatever reason and took it off. In this case "new" and "never ridden" can and do have several different meanings. "Never ridden" could mean "only once", "in the parking lot" or "never ridden hard".

    These are all over ebay and no they aren't going to be new 2016 product most likely. These have no warranty. You are partially paying for a warranty/factory support when buying new in the box. You get what you pay for.

    I would also keep the same travel. Why increase the travel?
    You are correct about that some out there are OEM forks,the 34 I purchased is the 2016 Factory Kashima 3- position compression adjust,came off a 6fattie S-Works.OEM's are not Kashima is an indicator that it is not Factory.

    Warranty work on a non new purchased fork is a fallacy, I just had a Marzocchi warranted and not purchased new and a Pike couple of years ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by techfersure View Post
    You are correct about that some out there are OEM forks,the 34 I purchased is the 2016 Factory Kashima 3- position compression adjust,came off a 6fattie S-Works.OEM's are not Kashima is an indicator that it is not Factory.

    Warranty work on a non new purchased fork is a fallacy, I just had a Marzocchi warranted and not purchased new and a Pike couple of years ago.
    Thanks everyone for the information and help. I understand what techfersure was saying with OEM versus Factory etc...

    techfersure - I am guessing the Fox 34 you found was the 140mm? If so did you put it on your Fuse? I am still debating 120mm versus 140mm on my Fuse XL. Any feedback would be appreciated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tonybah View Post
    Thanks everyone for the information and help. I understand what techfersure was saying with OEM versus Factory etc...

    techfersure - I am guessing the Fox 34 you found was the 140mm? If so did you put it on your Fuse? I am still debating 120mm versus 140mm on my Fuse XL. Any feedback would be appreciated.
    It is the 150mm but the price was worth 40.00 for air assembly to convert to 130mm which I can do myself. I think would be a better fit for the Fuse and not significantly alter the geometry.It has a low BB and am running 170mm cranks,have to be very mindfull of pedal hits on our very rocky terrain in my neck of the woods.

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    Quote Originally Posted by techfersure View Post
    It is the 150mm but the price was worth 40.00 for air assembly to convert to 130mm which I can do myself. I think would be a better fit for the Fuse and not significantly alter the geometry.It has a low BB and am running 170mm cranks,have to be very mindfull of pedal hits on our very rocky terrain in my neck of the woods.
    techfersure - what size did you think would be a better fit for my fuse? 120mm or 140mm? I'm also putting the XT 1x11 drivetrain on it with 175mm cranks. So maybe the extra height of the 140mm fox 34 would be better?

    Thanks for the help! Any other opinions would be greatly appreciated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tonybah View Post
    techfersure - what size did you think would be a better fit for my fuse? 120mm or 140mm? I'm also putting the XT 1x11 drivetrain on it with 175mm cranks. So maybe the extra height of the 140mm fox 34 would be better?

    Thanks for the help! Any other opinions would be greatly appreciated.

    I have the Comp and the interesting thing about the Raidon fork is how in comparison to my Fox Float 29 120mm how much more stanchion shows while sitting,5" compared to the Raidon 5 3/4" which on paper is more then 130mm closer to 140mm both forks call for same sag. I do not find any unnecessary wandering of front end.I use a 55mm stem. A 10mm on fork difference is acceptable plus or minus on todays geometry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tonybah View Post

    Thanks for the help! Any other opinions would be greatly appreciated.
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    140 is perfect for me. Nothing this bike cant handle.
    BTW, I run my tire pressure in the high teens, that may help steering some?
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    Quote Originally Posted by scottay View Post
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    140 is perfect for me. Nothing this bike cant handle.
    BTW, I run my tire pressure in the high teens, that may help steering some?
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    I'm going to install as 150mm out of curiosity and see if I like it at that,I don't mind more slack and I too run air pressure in high teens.

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    2016 27.5 Boost 34s are 120 and 140

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    Quote Originally Posted by scottay View Post
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    140 is perfect for me. Nothing this bike cant handle.
    BTW, I run my tire pressure in the high teens, that may help steering some?
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    Thanks scottay! That is exactly the information I was looking for. I think I will go with the 140 as well.

    Do you mind me asking where you bought your fork?

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    I'll PM you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scottay View Post
    2016 27.5 Boost 34s are 120 and 140
    Fork I have came off a 6fattie S-Works and it is 150mm.

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    Nice!

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    150mm Fox Float 34

    Specialized Fuse 6Fattie-20160205_160318.jpg

    Just mounted,does not feel to bad around the hood,will give it a test on steeps up and down tomorrow,going to run 25% sag. I don't mind slacker have a long DH racing history and now racing Enduro's which both run slack,will see.

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    Placed my order for a comp. 50% deposit it bttr be a rail trail beast!! How's the sun tour performing for those megaclydes?

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    Aloha fellow fatty owners.
    What do you guys think about the Maxxis Reckon and Icons that are soon to be available? To be honest I'm happy with the stock ground controls but knew shiny things are always cool.
    I have another question for you internet friends: Are the 38mm rims on the pro "bad"? I won't replace them until I kill them but I'm wondering if the better products are a lot more wide.
    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirt Road View Post
    Placed my order for a comp. 50% deposit it bttr be a rail trail beast!! How's the sun tour performing for those megaclydes?
    Not to burst your bubble on your Fuse purchase but the Suntour Raidon is not a keeper, a scary unpredictable fork, has a mind of its own and a super noodle. Will serve its purpose until you can upgrade like I did with the Fox.

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    Broke the Fox 34 150mm in today,did a 9 mile loop 1300 ft of climbing with steep short switch back turns,some fast flow and long steep loose rock descenders at speed. Leaving it at 150mm and loving it no discernable negatives all positives.Removing that scary Raidon gave the bike a whole new fun factor of stability,now more smitten then ever with the Fuse....fire in the hole!!!

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