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    Quote Originally Posted by dernbiebs View Post
    Just want to confirm what (I think) I've read here, that the Pike doesn't have clearance for most 3.8s, but the Magnum has plenty of clearance? Really want to pick up a Sergeant to run as a year round bike (snow and dirt) and am debating on the 2017 frame with the V1 build kit with the Magnum, or the V2 build kit with the Pike. Based on what I've read hear I'll have better success running 3.8s with the Magnum, am I correct?

    Couple side questions about the V1 build. Can the stock X9 run a cassette with a 42T cog? Are the Durocs on the V2 better than Mulefuts?

    Unfortunately, the Pike will not clear a 3.8.

    42 should work with the standard build. I'm using a 30f 36-11 in the mountains with a short cage RD to limit the junk hangin down too low.

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    Hey dernbiebs,
    I have a blue 2017 Sergeant, size L, in great condition that I'm thinking of selling. Its got the build kit (Magnum) from RSD and is in great shape. Let me know if you're interested. I'm in the Denver area, but could maybe ship...

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    Thanks for the offer tjstlouis. I'm in Calgary Alberta, so I think after shipping costs and the potential import duty fees I'd have to offer you a pretty low price for it to be worth for me. You'll probably get the best price selling local, or within the lower 48.

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    So I was looking at the website last night and I noticed a few things:

    Sergeant Ti V2: Max Tire Size: 27.5◊3.8in or 29x3in - 3lbs 11oz
    Sergeant AL v2: Max Tire Size: 27.5◊3.8in or 29◊2.4in - 4lbs 11oz

    It's interesting that the AL V2can't fit a 29x3.

    Also, has anyone wanted a longer reach bike without a shorter standover? Looking at the ETT and Reach numbers on these bikes and it looks like they are kinda short. Does RSD do any customization? For instance: an XL frame with a M/L seat tube and head tube?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PHeller View Post
    So I was looking at the website last night and I noticed a few things:

    Sergeant Ti V2: Max Tire Size: 27.5◊3.8in or 29x3in - 3lbs 11oz
    Sergeant AL v2: Max Tire Size: 27.5◊3.8in or 29◊2.4in - 4lbs 11oz

    It's interesting that the AL V2can't fit a 29x3.

    Also, has anyone wanted a longer reach bike without a shorter standover? Looking at the ETT and Reach numbers on these bikes and it looks like they are kinda short. Does RSD do any customization? For instance: an XL frame with a M/L seat tube and head tube?
    Unfortunately, the aluminum is slightly different than the Ti in tire/wheel sizing. Aluminum frame will do 27.5 x 3.8 but not 29+, go figure!

    I've had many conversations with Alex about doing a size Marge. This would entail a medium seat tube with top/down tube set of large frame.
    My size l is what I call a mountainbmx due to the long front triangle. Stuff the seat down and hit the rail trails routinely. Very playful bike indeed.
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    ^^Marge left the building sir.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nvphatty View Post
    ^^Marge left the building sir.
    That occurred the day Twenty2 went belly up!
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    The only reason I say this is because in comparing some geometries against the Surly Krampus and Karate Monkey, the Sergeant, even with it's 140mm fork, is a bit shorter by 20mm in reach for comparable seat tube length. What's funny though is the ETT lengths are comparable at 550 (Sergeant) and 483 (Krampus).

    So in geometry calc if you lower the fork to say...520mm A2C, you can increase the reach on the Size Large Sergeant up to 535mm, but that's still 10mm short of the Krampus.

    If we go even further, and drop the fork to 500mm a2c we end up with numbers matching the Krampus/Karate Monkey, but with a shorter ETT and steeper STA, and because the Sergeant has such a high BB to begin with the BB isn't as low as you'd expect. Just a hair under 12" with 275x3" tires.

    I'm super interested in the Sergeant for it's low weight and big tire clearance, but I'm also pretty picky about reach/ett numbers, and once you stretch to larger sizes the weights go out the window.

    I'm sure I'm not the only one put off a little by a overseas made titanium bike with a CA/US price tag. Compared to say...the On-One/Titus Fireline Evo at $1000 and Carver Gnarvester at $1400. Canadian Taxes?
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    The sale price includes shipping, tax etc. No surprise fees on the deal whatsoever.
    As for the others, I have spent some time on a Krampus and it felt nothing like Sarge. My roommate owns a Krampi that is well setup.
    My bike has a lower stand over and is way more playful. I do get trialsy on each and every ride. What we see on paper sometimes doesn't translate well to the real world. I found this with the Sergeant the moment I threw a leg over it. I was thinking Norco until that moment.
    I dealt with a shop that offered a week test period which was awesome. I did the week and was hooked, purchase done and two years later, still goin strong.

    While these are made in Taiwan, they are designed in Toronto. Carver has had some rough review with cracked frames. Not familiar with the Titus.

    Either way, a test ride of each will tell a story..
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    What about those of us without an RSD dealer nearby? In that case, numbers are the only thing matters. I have ridden enough bikes now to get a rough idea on how a bike will fit based on the numbers.

    You're an RSD fan, and you come from a "small bike" background (all those mentions of trials and whatnot), so of course you won't mind a bike that fits a bit smaller. I can see the bias from a thousand miles away. What works for you might not work for me.

    It's not that I couldn't get a Sergeant to be comfortable, I'm sure that'd be easy, but take a 4lbs 11oz frame in Medium, size up to a large or XL to get my ideal numbers, then suddenly I'm riding a 6lbs hunk of aluminum when I could be on a lighter weight steel bike. My criticism of the ETT/Reach numbers is largely because some of us are concerned about the added weight when sizing up. It's not a big deal, but then again 90% of what we talk about on MTBR isn't a big deal, and yet here we are.

    And you may be totally right, I could hop on a Large frame with a 50mm stem and say "hey this fits great", but getting onto a Sergeant may prove challenging.

    On pricing: I do understand that pricing reflects shipping and taxes, but we're talking about a $400 premium on top of other Tiawanese produced frames. It's funny because the Sergeant and even the Wildcat are priced really really well, if not better than many larger manufacturers. I only complain because that Sergeant Ti is so dreamy and I want one but $1700 is steeeeep.
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    Contact RSD, they may be able to get a bike to a local bike shop for you to try out.

    As for the component package and price, I found it to be 20-25% lower price with better groupo vs. my local bike shops.
    On the Sergeant, I dove 90 miles for the riding in Junktown as well as to give Sarge a test ride in some of the finest mountain bike habitat in the state.

    And what is a "small bike" background? My trials rig is a stock, not a mod...
    The "small bike" background involves three custom Turner frames, not over the counter, among other things. Unfortunately, Dave has cut the custom frame out of the lineup these days. Go figure. Oh yeah, I can pass the hooter across the room without an extenda roach, can you? Penalty assessed for leaving the recliner!! :P
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    Hi there, i thought i would address a couple of your concerns. If you have any others, feel free to email us directly at [email protected]
    The Reach is shorter only because the Seat Tube Angle is slacker. This is also why the ETT is very similar to other bikes you've mentioned. In terms of sizing, it's almost the same.
    As for the Titanium frames, they are manufactured in Taiwan at probably the best Titanium factory there. You can go online and buy a Chinese made Titanium frame for 1/4 of the price, but you get what you pay for. It will ride horribly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RSD Bikes View Post
    Hi there, i thought i would address a couple of your concerns. If you have any others, feel free to email us directly at [email protected]
    The Reach is shorter only because the Seat Tube Angle is slacker. This is also why the ETT is very similar to other bikes you've mentioned. In terms of sizing, it's almost the same.
    Thanks for the reply. Would you say that if a rider is comfy on a large Karate Monkey or Krampus, that they'd be comfortable on a Large Sergeant, everything else being equal (stem length, seatpost setback, bar width)?
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    I can speak to this, and the answer is basically yes. I used to ride a large Surly Ogre, which is basically the Karate Monkey with more mounts to haul anything under the sun. I am now on a large RSD sergeant. The components are similar, though I'm running a slightly shorter stem and a wider set of bars on the RSD. I made this change naturally due to shoulder and wrist pain though, not because of differences in the sizing of the frames. I also rode a large Ice Cream Truck and it's similar in sizing to the RSD as well.

    I questioned the geometry of the sergeant too, but eventually took the plunge without getting the chance to test ride beforehand. It was a good decision. The bike isn't perfect but it's damn good. I'd prefer slightly shorter chainstays and clearance for a wider tire, but that's about it. Hope this helps- let me know if other questions come up. Good luck!

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    Would you say that if a rider is comfy on a large Karate Monkey or Krampus, that they'd be comfortable on a Large Sergeant, everything else being equal (stem length, seatpost setback, bar width)?

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    Any tall riders experienced in the XXL? I really want a frame capable of 27.5x3.8. Okay with the longer chainstays, and the ETT is okay, but the reach is short and the seat tube is super slack. So worried, I am going to be too far back and not enough bike in front of me. I am normal proportionally and 6'5" tall. Wondering if I need to give up my dream of a normal boost bike for 27.5x3.8 and to to the honzo st (cause there are no xxl fat bikes either)....

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    Quote Originally Posted by telejefe View Post
    Any tall riders experienced in the XXL? I really want a frame capable of 27.5x3.8. Okay with the longer chainstays, and the ETT is okay, but the reach is short and the seat tube is super slack. So worried, I am going to be too far back and not enough bike in front of me. I am normal proportionally and 6'5" tall. Wondering if I need to give up my dream of a normal boost bike for 27.5x3.8 and to to the honzo st (cause there are no xxl fat bikes either)....
    With the laid back seat tube angle and length of the front end, you're in for a surprise. These bikes require a real world test of the throw a leg over it system. The Sergeant is very misleading on paper vs. real ride test.
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    Looking for final confirmation on whether there is a way to get the 27.5x3.8 Bontrager Hodags to work on the back of an Aluminum V1 Sergeant. Got a line on a local guy selling a set for $50/tire and don't want to miss out on the deal if I can make them work. If I put these on the rear of the frame (stock setup) with sliders all the way back do I need to worry about chainstay clearance or just chainline? Thanks for the help.

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    See post #425...

    Chain line is a minor annoyance but they do fit. Fork is another area of concern tho. Manitou works.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BansheeRune View Post
    See post #425...

    Chain line is a minor annoyance but they do fit. Fork is another area of concern tho. Manitou works.
    Thanks! Saved me the search effort. Looks like I'll be getting a set of Hodags for ~$120 shipped

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    I'm waiting for a pair from the lbs. should be some fun tires.
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    on RSD FB post yesterday - new "STEEL" rear triangle tease... Sarge in steel???

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    and today - 64.5 head angle?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kamper11 View Post
    and today - 64.5 head angle?
    I'm very curious about this new frame. Wondering if I should drive the 45 minutes to Canada to pick one up on the cheap. Pretty sure I can get duties back when crossing home and the current conversion rates are favorable for those of us with USD paychecks

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    New RSD bike is up on their website. The Middlechild... Looks awesome!

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    I was hoping the new bike would be more of a steel Sergeant, but:

    - doesn't have the tire clearance
    - less stack is bad for us tall guys
    - too slack for me
    - 6 lb 10 oz for the frame is too burly for me
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    Quote Originally Posted by seat_boy View Post
    I was hoping the new bike would be more of a steel Sergeant, but:

    - doesn't have the tire clearance
    - less stack is bad for us tall guys
    - too slack for me
    - 6 lb 10 oz for the frame is too burly for me
    Yeah, the nice thing about their v2 bikes is the tall stack. Now they're going the way of all the other short-guy bikes. I like to be more trials upright for wheelie dropping and monster trucking.

    If I had full (mountain) leg extension, my saddle would be higher than my grips. That's XC, yo!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BansheeRune View Post
    Cakeeater should be fine on there in a 27.5x3.8. I read somewhere that a bloke is running em on a Norco Torrent.
    I'd be interested to see where you saw that. The Torrent is more more style in terms of geometry, and may be a little bit cheaper to acquire over the Sergeant, but I'd only be interested if the Torrent fit 275x3.8ish.

    Derp, nevermind, found it here. Looks extremely tight with a Minion FBR on Scraper i45s, which I think the Sergeant could fit easily. Point: Sergeant.
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    It's official, you can run a Sergeant with Hodags, gears and stock components. This is with my sliders almost all the way back, tubes in the tires and 25psi (I wanted to try this before committing to tubeless in case it didn't work out back). Only thing I had to do was flip the chain ring. Will need to add a couple links to the chain, setup tubeless, adjust brakes and shifting but I'm 95% sure this will work. If the chain ends up hitting the tire too often I will adjust the gearing to eliminate the largest cog or put in boost spindle. Let me know if you have questions or want to see more specific close-ups

    I know the space is hard to see but I'm estimating about 10mm of space between tire knobs and chainstays, definitely more at seatstays

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    I'd say we have our answer! Thankya Minespunk. This makes it appear asI was thinking, that FBF is not as fat as Hodag.
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    Quote Originally Posted by goose8 View Post
    Sanded the washers on the rear dropouts to gain 1.5mm additional clearance. It works well with the minion dbr 3.8 right now. I'd like a little bit more clearance, but it works for the time being.
    I'm curious what "sanding the washer on the dropouts" looks like?

    I also wonder what kind of drop-outs RSD uses and if there might be a way to source another type of dropout that is slightly longer to pull the wheel back just a bit more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PHeller View Post
    I'm curious what "sanding the washer on the dropouts" looks like?

    I also wonder what kind of drop-outs RSD uses and if there might be a way to source another type of dropout that is slightly longer to pull the wheel back just a bit more.
    You can thin the washer a bit to get more space. If I remember correctly these are Paragon Machine Works dropouts. I don't think there are many sliding dropout manufacturers out there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MinesPunk View Post
    You can thin the washer a bit to get more space. If I remember correctly these are Paragon Machine Works dropouts. I don't think there are many sliding dropout manufacturers out there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fuzzy Dunlop01 View Post
    Have been wondering about the dropouts manufacturer. You know for sure?

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    Recommend contacting Alex at RSD to confirm. Pretty sure he told me they were Paragon

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    Quote Originally Posted by PHeller View Post
    I'm curious what "sanding the washer on the dropouts" looks like?
    I'll do my best to describe the modifications made to the washer. To be clear, I didn't touch the dropouts themselves, just the washer that slots into the cutout in the frame.

    This washer is a little bit longer than it needs to be. A buddy of mine who is a framebuilder used a belt sander to shave extra material off the end. The dropout itself is still the limiting factor here. My not-to-scale attempt at a sketch is:RSD Sergeant thread (Pix are appreciated)-fullsizeoutput_231.jpg
    Now that I see what the finished product looks like, I'd be comfortable tackling this myself. At the time though I was a bit unsure- assess your skill level before you dive in.

    Removing this extra material buys you about 1.5mm extra clearance. It's enough for me to run a 3.8 FBR with grip studs, though not on the side knobs- that would likely contact the frame, at least for me (225 lbs. geared up). Here's the stud pattern I used on the rear if anyone is interested. RSD Sergeant thread (Pix are appreciated)-img_4092.jpg

    I've found that 3.8's with studs get me through a wide range of winter conditions. I get bogged down in deep untracked snow - that's 4.8" width true fatbike territory in my book. They're not ideal for hard off-camber ice- a standard 2.5" tire studded with kold kutters or the like gets the nod there. For everything else, including dirt/ice/snow mixed surfaces, they're great.

    Hope this helps- ask follow-up questions as need be. And to close, here's the obligatory shot of the bike in the wild.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fuzzy Dunlop01 View Post
    Have been wondering about the dropouts manufacturer. You know for sure?

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    A lot of sliding drop-outs are somewhat standard size. Our sliders are made overseas and are the same size as Paragon's.
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    Hey guys. Thanks for this thread. I've read most of it. Just ordered an XXL V2 Sergeant with the V1 components to save some dough. I've never bought a bike blind and I'm excited and nervous at the same time. Like loosing my virginity.

    I was flipping through an old MBA magazine the other day that had a 1/4 page feature of the new (at the time of print) WildCat. They mentioned a small Toronto company and I like to support the small stuff so had to look. I was lusting after a Santa Cruz Chameleon and found these bikes were very similar. Several days of mulling over had me clicking buy.

    I'll be building it (stock) with my kid who is 9 and as excited as I am. I assume it's not difficult. I've tinkered and mechanically inclined. He is really getting into mtn biking which has really put me back into mtn biking.

    I'll update when I get it but wanted to thank everyone for sharing their feedback about the bike. Being a small company there are few reviews to go off of and no chance of trying them for me. Nobody in my small group of mtn bikers had heard of them. So the feedback was very helpful. I'm sure I'll have a lot of questions, especially around tire choice, though I'll be the opposite of most here, hoping to shed weight and step down to a 2.8 instead of the stock 3.0 (not much difference but no desire to go to 3.8).

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    Sweet rides everyone! I echo what Ryan said. Thanks for this thread. I ordered and received a V1 (the blue one) from Alex a few weeks ago and I'm not disappointed. I'll get some pics up when I figure that out. Also, a big thumbs up to Alex's customer service to anyone that's considering purchasing. Buy with confidence. First post, by the way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanbouma View Post
    Hey guys. Thanks for this thread. I've read most of it. Just ordered an XXL V2 Sergeant with the V1 components to save some dough. I've never bought a bike blind and I'm excited and nervous at the same time. Like loosing my virginity.

    I was flipping through an old MBA magazine the other day that had a 1/4 page feature of the new (at the time of print) WildCat. They mentioned a small Toronto company and I like to support the small stuff so had to look. I was lusting after a Santa Cruz Chameleon and found these bikes were very similar. Several days of mulling over had me clicking buy.

    I'll be building it (stock) with my kid who is 9 and as excited as I am. I assume it's not difficult. I've tinkered and mechanically inclined. He is really getting into mtn biking which has really put me back into mtn biking.

    I'll update when I get it but wanted to thank everyone for sharing their feedback about the bike. Being a small company there are few reviews to go off of and no chance of trying them for me. Nobody in my small group of mtn bikers had heard of them. So the feedback was very helpful. I'm sure I'll have a lot of questions, especially around tire choice, though I'll be the opposite of most here, hoping to shed weight and step down to a 2.8 instead of the stock 3.0 (not much difference but no desire to go to 3.8).

    Ryan
    Was that the article that wasn't so positive on the wildcat? There was a review in one of the mags that was so far off base on every level, it's not funny.
    Yus, I am owned by a Sergeant V1, a Mayor and a Wildcat. Love each one!

    Yup, the buying blind is nerve-racking but once you throw a leg over your bike, you'll discover how unfounded it was to be nervous. The followup support from Alex is second to none, hands down. As for the 2.6, 2.8 offerings out there, I'm sticking with 3.0 on i45's.
    Just wait till you do a hill climb and discover how dauntless Sarge makes it seem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jfaulk View Post
    Sweet rides everyone! I echo what Ryan said. Thanks for this thread. I ordered and received a V1 (the blue one) from Alex a few weeks ago and I'm not disappointed. I'll get some pics up when I figure that out. Also, a big thumbs up to Alex's customer service to anyone that's considering purchasing. Buy with confidence. First post, by the way.

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    My V1 has a few upgrades in the wheel and brake department cause I had to have color and rims that can be seen. Otherwise the original equipment is groovy although, I have an addiction to groovier!!
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    ^^ groovier?? is that a word or euphemism??
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    Quote Originally Posted by BansheeRune View Post
    Was that the article that wasn't so positive on the wildcat? There was a review in one of the mags that was so far off base on every level, it's not funny.
    Yus, I am owned by a Sergeant V1, a Mayor and a Wildcat. Love each one!

    Yup, the buying blind is nerve-racking but once you throw a leg over your bike, you'll discover how unfounded it was to be nervous. The followup support from Alex is second to none, hands down. As for the 2.6, 2.8 offerings out there, I'm sticking with 3.0 on i45's.
    Just wait till you do a hill climb and discover how dauntless Sarge makes it seem.

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    Welcome to Sarge's thread and to the +world of +bikes! You are going to discover more of the performance of your new friend, indeed. I for one, cannot say enough good things about this bike and Alex for his custy service.
    My V1 has a few upgrades in the wheel and brake department cause I had to have color and rims that can be seen. Otherwise the original equipment is groovy although, I have an addiction to groovier!!
    Thanks Banshee. Your Sarge looks good with the polished wheels and orange hubs. I like the black mulefuts so I won't be changing anything anytime soon. I haven't been on a bike in quite a while. It was an old Trek 26" I'm loving the + goodness so far and the Manitou is very good at soaking up the bumps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BansheeRune View Post
    Was that the article that wasn't so positive on the wildcat? There was a review in one of the mags that was so far off base on every level, it's not funny.
    No not that one. It was just a little sidebar thing saying RSD has a new bike called the wildcast type of thing. Just a teaser snippet thing.



    Bike arrived and I emailed Alex, but I can't get the headset tight. Feels like the star nut is spinning. I've been super careful all the way through to not over tighten anything. Just snug. But snug isn't tight and it just keeps going around at "snug" levels. We'll see what he says but if anyone has a suggestion I'm all ears.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanbouma View Post
    No not that one. It was just a little sidebar thing saying RSD has a new bike called the wildcast type of thing. Just a teaser snippet thing.



    Bike arrived and I emailed Alex, but I can't get the headset tight. Feels like the star nut is spinning. I've been super careful all the way through to not over tighten anything. Just snug. But snug isn't tight and it just keeps going around at "snug" levels. We'll see what he says but if anyone has a suggestion I'm all ears.
    I had trouble getting mine tight as well. I exchanged a few emails with Alex and he recommended adding a 5mm spacer. That did the trick. The top cap was bottoming out on the top of the steerer tube and not allowing me to get it as tight as needed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jfaulk View Post
    I had trouble getting mine tight as well. I exchanged a few emails with Alex and he recommended adding a 5mm spacer. That did the trick. The top cap was bottoming out on the top of the steerer tube and not allowing me to get it as tight as needed.
    Alex wrote me back right away and offered to talk on the phone. He suggested that, but unfortunately that isn't the issue. There's still space there. Turns out what is happening is the star nut is walking up the steer tube as I tighten it. Star nut isn't grabbing I guess. He said he may have to send a new star nut. I just emailed him with confirmation that it is coming out, so we'll see what he suggests.

    Maybe deja vu, but didn't other people have this? I wonder if the Manitou steer tubes use soft aluminum or something.

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    ^Sorry I couldn't help. Hopefully you'll get it fixed quickly. Let us know how it turns out.

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    I'm having similar issues with my star nut as well. Just located a spare in my parts box and will install it to see if the problem resolves

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    I'll be interested to hear how the new star nut helps you. Alex sent a new one (hopefully doesnt take too long to get here cause Im excited to ride). My biggest concern is I dont have a nut setting tool cause I've never needed one and not sure I ever will. But I've hear of people setting them with a large socket or wood dowel. Is that a bad idea?

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    Has anyone weighed a size large/extra large Sarge in Ti or Alloy?

    Curious to see what a complete build might weigh.
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    Star nut creeping up and out is common. Sometimes they just don't get a bite and hold. Usually it is easy to resolve.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanbouma View Post
    I'll be interested to hear how the new star nut helps you. Alex sent a new one (hopefully doesnt take too long to get here cause Im excited to ride). My biggest concern is I dont have a nut setting tool cause I've never needed one and not sure I ever will. But I've hear of people setting them with a large socket or wood dowel. Is that a bad idea?
    Star nut creeping out is weird. The stress is all on the stem once the stem bolts are torque'd. If the stem is backing off the steerer tube, you may want to check the tube for too much grease (creeky noise reducer) or get a stem that has a higher torque value.


    Heck...after the stem/headset preload is set, you should be able to remove the stem cap and star nut completely. There shouldn't be any force on the star nut. People who run bar rotors or just extra long rear brake housing for tailwhips and bar spins do this and run their front brake housing through the steerer tube and out the bottom above the tire.

    As far as setting a new star nut...I put the allen bolt most of the way into it...then use a socket that is just large enough to fit over the outside of the allen bolt. If you use a large diameter socket, then the wings/fins on the star nut aren't allowed to flex upward and enter the steerer tube as well. The star nut is larger than the steerer tube IS diameter...so you don't want a socket large enough that it's only pushing/making contact with the far outside edges of the star nut.

    The larger diameter the socket...the more force is required to set the star nut because it's easier to flex the nut fins at their base than further out.

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    I appreciate the feedback. Hadnt thought about the socket being too big. I'll use something smaller if my LBS doesnt sell the setter tool.

    The star nut isnt creeping during use. Its pulling out while I try to preload the head tube. The spacer rings are wiggly and theres lots of slop in the head set before I clamp the stem bolts down. If I could just get rnough preload on there Id be ok.

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    Hey guys, school me on the Magnum.

    How does the Magnum stand up to the Pike (aside from the better clearance on the Magnum)? How's the Magnum's performance relative to the Pike? What RS fork best compares to the Magnum? The damper in the Pike is superior to the Magnum, correct? Is this noticeable in real world usage?

    I like the Magnum for its clearance of 3.8s, but on a 50mm rim do 3.8's actually measure 3.8? Reason I ask is most trail centers require minimum 3.7 inch tires to ride the groomed snow trails. Do Minions, Cake Eaters or Hodags measure >3.7" on 50mm rims?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dernbiebs View Post
    Hey guys, school me on the Magnum.

    How does the Magnum stand up to the Pike (aside from the better clearance on the Magnum)? How's the Magnum's performance relative to the Pike? What RS fork best compares to the Magnum? The damper in the Pike is superior to the Magnum, correct? Is this noticeable in real world usage?

    I like the Magnum for its clearance of 3.8s, but on a 50mm rim do 3.8's actually measure 3.8? Reason I ask is most trail centers require minimum 3.7 inch tires to ride the groomed snow trails. Do Minions, Cake Eaters or Hodags measure >3.7" on 50mm rims?
    Cannot answer the Magnum vs Pike debate but the Magnum on my 2016 fesla good enough that I dont see a real reason to upgrade it. I do live in michigan so we have liye of roots but no real rock gardens so take that for what its worth. If I lived back west I would likely have a different opinion.

    As far as tire size, my 27.5x3.8 Hodags run 3.56" setup tubeless. No clue what pressures I'm running. Our trail systems demand 3.8 tires but never measure them, they just request that they are labeled at that size for snow

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    Quote Originally Posted by MinesPunk View Post
    Cannot answer the Magnum vs Pike debate but the Magnum on my 2016 fesla good enough that I dont see a real reason to upgrade it. I do live in michigan so we have liye of roots but no real rock gardens so take that for what its worth. If I lived back west I would likely have a different opinion.

    As far as tire size, my 27.5x3.8 Hodags run 3.56" setup tubeless. No clue what pressures I'm running. Our trail systems demand 3.8 tires but never measure them, they just request that they are labeled at that size for snow

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    Demand 3.8 for groomed snow trail or all the time? Never hear of this.

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    Also... Is there a middlechild thread yet? Im interested esp after Alex added the dropper routing option.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fuzzy Dunlop01 View Post
    Demand 3.8 for groomed snow trail or all the time? Never hear of this.

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    Our trail system just asks it for "snow". No idea if groomed or not makes a difference to them

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    Does the Magnum Comp 27.5+ fit the Hodag ok? I see the frame pics but also wondering about fork clearance. Thanks.

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    Out of the box the pike has better damping than the magnum, but it's not a terribly costly upgrade to swap out the damping unit (I left a comment detailing the change here: https://nsmb.com/articles/trek-stache-29-retrial/). With the dorado air spring I'd probably take the magnum over the pike. I just feels better for my riding, and the clearance lets me run a fatter tire than the pike would permit so I get year-round use. Maybe it's the difference in tire size too (I've been using a 27.5x3.8 on the magnum and my 2015 pike was on a different bike and ran a 29x2.5), but I have been blown away by the manitou forks and customer support. While I'm still tuning the Fox 36 GRIP fork on my new full suspension bike, I don't think that my magnum is far behind it at all in terms of performance. Hope this helps.

    Quote Originally Posted by dernbiebs View Post
    How does the Magnum stand up to the Pike (aside from the better clearance on the Magnum)? How's the Magnum's performance relative to the Pike? What RS fork best compares to the Magnum? The damper in the Pike is superior to the Magnum, correct? Is this noticeable in real world usage?

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    Yes. I am running a studded hodag on the stock mulefat rims no problem @ 7psi or so.

    Quote Originally Posted by telejefe View Post
    Does the Magnum Comp 27.5+ fit the Hodag ok? I see the frame pics but also wondering about fork clearance. Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goose8 View Post
    Out of the box the pike has better damping than the magnum, but it's not a terribly costly upgrade to swap out the damping unit (I left a comment detailing the change here: https://nsmb.com/articles/trek-stache-29-retrial/). With the dorado air spring I'd probably take the magnum over the pike. I just feels better for my riding, and the clearance lets me run a fatter tire than the pike would permit so I get year-round use. Maybe it's the difference in tire size too (I've been using a 27.5x3.8 on the magnum and my 2015 pike was on a different bike and ran a 29x2.5), but I have been blown away by the manitou forks and customer support. While I'm still tuning the Fox 36 GRIP fork on my new full suspension bike, I don't think that my magnum is far behind it at all in terms of performance. Hope this helps.
    This is very helpful. I appreciate the response. Where did you source your parts from? How much would you estimate it cost you (parts and labor) to upgrade.

    Before you upgraded the damping unit how did you like the stock comp fork? You said not as good as the Pike, but is it still a pretty solid fork? I have heard nothing but good things about the Pike and I like the Shimano brakes and drivetrain on the 2017s, but the cost savings and the ability to run 3.8s on the 2016 has me leaning towards the 2016. Just dont want to regret not going with the Pike.

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    Anybody try 29x2.6 on the rear of the Sergeant yet?
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    The stock fork was remarkably good. If I weighed 180 lbs. rather than 218 I'd probably still be running it, but I needed a little bit more adjustability than it offered out of the box. It's probably safe to say that it's going to work for most riders though. Most people would consider the pike to be the better fork, but for me the versatility of the magnum made it an easy decision since I wanted to be able to ride this bike pretty much year round (just not in deep fresh snow).

    My local shop got the parts from QBP and did the work. I'm not sure what the final cost was, but I think it was less than $200. Good luck!


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    This is very helpful. I appreciate the response. Where did you source your parts from? How much would you estimate it cost you (parts and labor) to upgrade.

    Before you upgraded the damping unit how did you like the stock comp fork? You said not as good as the Pike, but is it still a pretty solid fork? I have heard nothing but good things about the Pike and I like the Shimano brakes and drivetrain on the 2017s, but the cost savings and the ability to run 3.8s on the 2016 has me leaning towards the 2016. Just dont want to regret not going with the Pike.

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    Anybody try 29x2.6 on the rear of the Sergeant yet?
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    Frankly, I've thought about 2.6 but thus far am staying 27.5 x 3.0.
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    So about the geometry question again: I was looking at the Middlechild, which is obviously RSD's newest design and I'm looking at the differences between it and the Sergeant. Like others, I was hoping for an updated Sergeant CroMo V3 with longer reach but same great tire clearances. What we got was the newschool Middlechild, which is cool, but it's not the 275x3.8 clearances of the Sergeant.

    Some interesting differences in the geometry of the two bikes, both of which are sold with 275 Plus tires and 140mm forks:

    Comparing Medium Frames:

    Sergeant is 66.5 HTA vs the Middlechild's 64.5 degrees, and 72 STA vs 74 STA respectively. The ETT of the Sarge is 604 vs 625 of the Middlechild. The chainstays of the MIddlechild are a good 20mm shorter, but this impacts clearances. Lastly, and the thing that sticks out to me is Reach: The Sarge has a 400mm...the Middlechild is 448mm, nearly 50mm longer! Now granted, the steeper STA will put the rider closer to the bars than the Sarge, but its amazing how design characteristics change over the years.

    So I still wonder, does anyone wish for more reach and a shorter stem on their Sarge?
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    Quite comfortable with my L, 2016 with 800mm bar and 70mm stem. Seat is slammed all the way back with a 25mm backset seat post.
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    Ya - Reach and top tube were too short for me at 6'5". I went with wozo for proper size frame and tire clearance. But stuck with wider bb - but at 6'5" this is not that noticeable for me...

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    Anyone know if the stock Maxxis Chronicles are tubeless ready? I hear that Maxxis does not recommend setting up the 60tpi version (which I think is what comes on the Sergeant) tubeless, and if you do so the warranty is void. Is this true?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dernbiebs View Post
    Anyone know if the stock Maxxis Chronicles are tubeless ready? I hear that Maxxis does not recommend setting up the 60tpi version (which I think is what comes on the Sergeant) tubeless, and if you do so the warranty is void. Is this true?
    Mine ended up shipping with 120tpi tires, set up tubeless no problem. That being said, not sure on 60tpi, and I've never used a tire warranty anyway

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    Serg took me to desert bootcamp over the weekend. Not sure I've ever had as much fun riding the mesas; Little Creek, Guac, Goose, Wire, Grafton...

    I think a new wheelset and dropper may be in my future

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    Good stuff, Mike! Gotta say, Sarge has been a great bike and going strong since 2016! He loves that kind of riding cause there is so much to enjoy.
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    Anyone riding an XXL V2 Sergeant? I'm curious what the frame might weight (vs the claimed weight of the Medium) and how big the front triangle by comparison.

    EDIT: Triangle of the XXL/XL/L should be the same, as they all have nearly the same standover and seat tube length. Obviously the XXL will be a longer triangle than the L, but not by more than a few inches. I was curious about this for bikepacking reasons.

    Another question: what hubs are RSD using in their wheel builds? Do they do custom wheelbuilds?
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    I love that picture! I need to get out on mine this weekend and get some scratches on it and some photos/vids.

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    Amazing photo! I'm jealous (of the ride you went on and your photography skills)!

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    I have the XXL V2 but I have V1 components on it so not sure I can help. Let me know if there's anything specific I can help with though. I did not measure the frame weight before assembling but I do have a video of it and i easily swing it around one handed.

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    The best type of bike picture is perfectly parallel, drive side, good background with a nice shallow depth of field.

    I'd say mikedeber just about nailed it!
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    XXL frame weight is 5 lbs 10 oz.
    The Sergeant comes with Duroc 50 laced with SRC hubs. We don't do custom wheel building but we can order different wheel sets from various companies, such as Race Face, DT, Sun Ringle and NOBL
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    Thanks for the weight. While it isnt unreasonable for a bike that big, Id love a carbon option that fit those same 275x3.8 tires. I would assume a titanium size XL (or XXL) would be similar in weight?

    Reason I ask about wheels is because Id love a DT350/Duroc 50 setup. I pretty much only run DT350 hubs because ive got tons of spares, end caps, freehub bodies etc. I wonder how much a frame+wheel combo would cost...or if RSD could cut me a deal on just Duroc 50 rims...

    Also: can RSD confirm 29x2.6 clearance on the Sergeant AL?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PHeller View Post
    Thanks for the weight. While it isnt unreasonable for a bike that big, Id love a carbon option that fit those same 275x3.8 tires. I would assume a titanium size XL (or XXL) would be similar in weight?

    Reason I ask about wheels is because Id love a DT350/Duroc 50 setup. I pretty much only run DT350 hubs because ive got tons of spares, end caps, freehub bodies etc. I wonder how much a frame+wheel combo would cost...or if RSD could cut me a deal on just Duroc 50 rims...

    Also: can RSD confirm 29x2.6 clearance on the Sergeant AL?
    XL Ti is 4 lbs 7 oz
    If you order a complete bike, we can probably accommodate some customization, such as rims, hubs or both. The wheel lacing as well as the purchasing of spokes/nipples would have to be done by you.

    29x2.6 Nobby Nic on Mulefut 50 barely fit on the Sergeant AL - i'd say no.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RSD Bikes View Post
    XL Ti is 4 lbs 7 oz
    Whoa, that's light!

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    29x2.6 Nobby Nic on Mulefut 50 barely fit on the Sergeant AL - i'd say no.
    Surprising. Must be some major differences between the Titanium models and the AL models in terms of tubing shape and what not. I think I've asked/commented on that before. I wonder if doing the washer grind mod would allow the dropouts to be pulled out far enough to fit 29x2.6 on a smaller (i35) rim?

    RSDBikes: If I got a XXL AL model and I really liked the fit/reach (464), could a XXL titanium be ordered to mirror that? Or do you guys order titanium frames in big batches?

    Sorry about all the questions. Figure other interested buyers may benefit. I'm about as scrutinous as they come.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PHeller View Post
    Surprising. Must be some major differences between the Titanium models and the AL models in terms of tubing shape and what not. I think I've asked/commented on that before. I wonder if doing the washer grind mod would allow the dropouts to be pulled out far enough to fit 29x2.6 on a smaller (i35) rim?
    The Ti and AL are made in different factories. they were also designed at different times, hence the small differences.

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    4 rides on my sergeant and Im finding the strengths and weaknesses. Already earned a KOM and really liking the concept of a plus hardtail. I added a dropper because that just seems like a necessity with a plus hardtail and it really was. Opened a lot of options for going very fast downhill.

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    The Sarge got a brake upgrade and a set of Nobby Nic 3.0 tires, I may have taken the studded winter tires off too early but this is April, its supposed to be spring! the Nobby Nics did quite well on the crunchy snow, just had to exercise a bit of caution on the icy bits of the trail. seasonal temps right now should be 15C (59F) but are hovering around the -10c (14F) mark with snow! looking forward to summer... I think a dropper post is on the wishlist now.
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    Is that a 200mm rotor on the front? I'm planning on doing that but just keeping with SRAM. Why the change to XT?

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    Yup that's a 203mm on the front. 180 on the rear is the max, I have shimano brakes on my full suspension bike and like the feel.it doesn't look like it anymore but I had the base build and had avid bb7s on the sarge, I am going to put the bb7s back on for the winter months as shimano don't do well in the winter.. I just wanted the brakes to feel similar on both my primary bikes this summer and it's hard to beat the price of the XTs.

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    With Hope 4 pot system, I have the equivalent to 1 ton brakes on a Toyota SR5... For the uninitiated, they are downright dangerous.
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    Totally agree Banshee, I had hope v4s on the sarge for 2 rides total and decided it was WAY to much brake for the sarge

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    Sounds like what I need then! I don't want to spend that much though. The larger rotor will give me 11% more power and that's gotta be close to my wants. Im use to 200 on a 26" wheel so a little unimpressed with the power.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trials4evr View Post
    Totally agree Banshee, I had hope v4s on the sarge for 2 rides total and decided it was WAY to much brake for the sarge
    One thing lacking is any form of arm pump from braking! With the braking power afforded with the Hopes, not to mention, they are in living color, one finger braking is a great thing! No more grab a fist full of brake lever to get trialsy. If I felt that 160's with 4 pots would be sufficient, I would go there in a heartbeat to keep rotor damage from being an issue. Nothing worse than a bent rotor from Jeepin!!

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    Question for you SS Sergeant owners, does 32x21 combo work at almost slammed (shortest CS) position?
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    If anyone wants to see a Sergeant unboxing I made a video with my kid: https://youtu.be/LYk2N_WRVgI

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    Thanks for posting! There is a definite lack of videos on the Sergeant. How do you like the build kit? Fork, brakes and derailleur?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dernbiebs View Post
    Thanks for posting! There is a definite lack of videos on the Sergeant. How do you like the build kit? Fork, brakes and derailleur?
    I have the V1 build kit which I dont think you can get anymore. I got one of the last ones on sale. I am really impressed with the fork. It just disappears and works super hard without showing itself at all. Very happy with the shiftibg and gear ratios from the 1x10 SRAM 9. Ive had some challenges with the brakes (guide R). I get inconsistent level pull and power from the rear. Almost like fade but they should not be fading with the brake usage that leads to this issue. The front lacks power for my 215lbs and downhill desires. The chronicle tires are fast rolling but too slippery for our trails. Im hoping they'll begin to work well as things dry out. The rest is relatively what you would expect. It does the job well without issue. What can be said about a handle bar or cranks etc. Haha.

    Once I have a few more rides on it I'll do a follow up to the unboxing with impressions.

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    Sweet! Interesting to hear about the brakes. Do you think they can be remedied with some adjusting? Surprised the stopping power is lacking, as I figured the 4 piston guides would be plenty strong. Iím same weight as you and have similar DH ambitions, so this is interesting to me. What conditions/trails are you riding where the Chronicles are lacking?

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    Where Sarge took me recently

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    Pic taken from the top of John's Mountain in North Georgia on a scouting ride for TNGA. I'm riding roughly the entire course backwards in chunks in prep for the race. Don't think I'm gonna ride the Sarge in the race, though, as it's a little overbuilt for the mostly fire roads and constant climbing. I have a cheap china carbon full rigid boost frameset and some cheap china carbon 29" wheels in the mail, but Sarge will be the perennial back-up and take the brunt of my training day trips for the time being. It has certainly been good for the adventure so far.

    My only minor gripes so far are:
    - on steeper and longer climbs (no shortage in North GA it seems), when I stand to climb or even sit on the rivet and spin to get extra torque, my rear end can lose traction easily, but this could be a technique issue, esp on 5+ hr rides. Thinking about swapping the 32t ring for a 30t ring and an e13 cassette in 9-46
    - the dropper adjustment on the KS LEV is fiddly and I have had to zip-tie the little plastic cover on the little box to keep it on despite the little retention ferrule thingy.

    Only changes from stock so far are tubeless conversion with stock tires (found 18psi is a good all 'round pressure for the 3.0s), changed grips (I broke the original lock-ons by over-torquing the bolt, doh), and added crank bros mallets. Oh yeah, and an ass savers front fender (not pictured). Will have to submit a pic when the bike is all kitted up in full overnight training mode with packs and lights, etc.

    My next purchases for this bike will be a sensible set of 29er wheels/tires for variety's sake. Any recommendations on good cost-effective combos that keep with the ethos of the Sergeant?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dernbiebs View Post
    Thanks for posting! There is a definite lack of videos on the Sergeant. How do you like the build kit? Fork, brakes and derailleur?
    Frankly, one of the first changes to Sarge was tires. Another was the Guide brakes had an issue after a year or so and were changed to Hope Tech3 E4's. The hopes are basically towing package power brakes! What a Godsend! The guides were decent but had a MC fail.
    Later, a wheelset was in order to save time and effort in changing over from Nobby Nic 3.0's to Rocket Ron 3.0's.
    I also enjoy lacing up a pair of wheels from time to time. Other than that, Sarge still has the X9 drive train. Bars did get changed with Loaded AMX for color and upsweep that provides that trialsy feel that I enjoy.

    Sarge is kinda impatient and would prefer to rail than have to wait for camera setup. Honestly, helmet cam plain sux.
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    I dont think adjustment would fix the rear issue. Its just a weird thing I cant put my finger on. Maybe theres air in the lines... The front shouldnt be lacking but Im use to 203mm rotors on 26" wheels. When I do the moment arm calculations for the wheel and rotor size difference its nearly 20% less power. I've slowly been adapting but cant raise the back tire without it being very steep or chucking my weight forward. As for the chronicles, i find I lose traction on wet rock, firm mud, and wet roots. I think a more aggressive tread would help with the rock and roots. The mud might be the width of plus tires in general. I've had a few instances where I'm in a corner and one or both tires lets go on top of the mud. A narrower tire might cut into the mud better. Same with climbing traction. Anything mudding and the tire doesnt bite in. They roll very very fast though. And in the firmer dry soil with potentially loose surface soil they grab incredibly well. Tires are always a trade off. The wet coast like open deep tread.

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    The Chronicles are not at their best for muddy, wet or loose conditions, period.

    With either RR or NN, I have not had traction loss as I would with a 2.something tire. I don't run em hard as tungsten and have traction for days.
    The key is air pressure! A slight squish and they are velcro. Developing a lighter riding style is also greatly improving performance.

    Climbing with Sarge has been by far, less daunting than many bikes I have ridden over the years. As a matter of fact, often times a 2.something bike is going slower on climbs than Sarge.
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    Glad to hear positive review on the fork. I am the same weight as you and have wondered how the performance would be on the Comp it if it would be worthwhile looking for a Pro, or spending the extra $$ to upgrade the air spring as was done by Goose. Interested to hear your thoughts on the fork after a few more rides.

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    Quote Originally Posted by minivanpride View Post
    My next purchases for this bike will be a sensible set of 29er wheels/tires for variety's sake. Any recommendations on good cost-effective combos that keep with the ethos of the Sergeant?
    Im also interested in this question as I've got a defective rear hub and thinking of options. One of which is just buy a set of 29ers while I figure out how to deal with this hub.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanbouma View Post
    Im also interested in this question as I've got a defective rear hub and thinking of options. One of which is just buy a set of 29ers while I figure out how to deal with this hub.
    Didn't you just get the Sergeant? The hubs already going? I imagine it's covered under warranty?

    Anyone know if the V2 wheelset with Durocs uses the same hubs at the V1 Mulefuts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanbouma View Post
    Im also interested in this question as I've got a defective rear hub and thinking of options. One of which is just buy a set of 29ers while I figure out how to deal with this hub.
    If you are still under warranty, get in touch with Alex straight away. He's been awesome at taking care of issues in short order.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BansheeRune View Post
    If you are still under warranty, get in touch with Alex straight away. He's been awesome at taking care of issues in short order.
    It's a month old but been acting weird since day 1. He put me in touch with Hays/SunRingle but they want me to send it to them. From Canada its expensive and doesn't make sense. I will try to fix it and I think they will supply the parts. It shouldn't cost me anything provided I can figure it out ok. I've never rebuilt a hub though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanbouma View Post
    It's a month old but been acting weird since day 1. He put me in touch with Hays/SunRingle but they want me to send it to them. From Canada its expensive and doesn't make sense. I will try to fix it and I think they will supply the parts. It shouldn't cost me anything provided I can figure it out ok. I've never rebuilt a hub though.
    Bummer, I've heard this was a common issue with the rear hubs, but I thought I heard that SunRingle had remedied the issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dernbiebs View Post
    Bummer, I've heard this was a common issue with the rear hubs, but I thought I heard that SunRingle had remedied the issue.
    Maybe I got new old stock or something. When it freewheels it makes a clunk and grabs the chain every rotation or so. But its not consistent. I can feel the chain jerk in my feet as I coast. Thankfully it still pedals although I get the occasional clunk and ping when pedalling too.

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    I blew the hub on my v1 sergeant on the first ride (it was one of their demo bikes). Turned out that it had a defect in one of the slots where the pawl sits. I didn't notice that when I was trying to figure out what was wrong, but my mechanic did. Might be worth having someone local take a look at it and then you'll have a better idea of what the problem is when you talk to SunRingle. Just a thought- good luck!

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    Well, I think I found the issue. Two pawl springs aren't working right. One isn't working at all, just loose. The other is gritty and sticky.

    Is there a freehub upgrade available? The aluminum body was fairly gouged from the cassette rings. I'm gonna ask the Sun Ringle guy if a steel one is available.

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    I had the exact same thing happen to me on my sergeant, Alex from rsd passed my info to Sun ringle and they sent me out a new pawl and spring set right away, I haven't had any issues with the hub since, I have had a couple of issues with the sun ringle rear hub on my mayor and ended up with the steel upgrade (the alloy driver was pretty gouged) , I haven't had the cassette off the mayor since the steel upgrade but I would assume that the gouging issues wouldnt happen on the steel. Get in touch with Alex, I've probably had more warranty issues than most with my 2 RSD bikes and every time I'm treated fairly and always come away from the experience happy with the end result, rsd hands down has some pretty awesome customer service thanks to Alex.

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    Im worried they're only going to send springs and pawls because something gouged the driver inside the hub too. You can see marks between pawls in this photo: https://www.dropbox.com/s/y1zkt8232q...30254.JPG?dl=0

    Those marks are only between the broken and good pawl. I sent the photo and mentioned it to Sun ringle but I don't think he understood. I think he probably was referring to the gouges on the outside of the driver, which are normal and expected.

    Yes Alex has been doing his best, but I am quite frustrated with this bike. First the star nut creeped out and I couldnt assemble the bike. I dont live near an LBS so Alex sent a new star nut but it never showed up. I broke down after two weeks and drove to a shop to buy a $1 part and set the new nut myself. Assembled the bike and the brakes had a problem. Still dont know what was wrong but I could not safely ride the bike. Alex was great and sent new brakes without hesitation. New ones work. Got 5 rides on the bike and now the hub has me out for who knows how many rides. I gotta do the work on my brand new bike. I looked seriously at used and went new for reliability. Having a hard time enjoying the bike.

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    The guy from Hayes sent me new everything. Bearings and axle etc. Even sent the freehub body in chromoly like I asked about. I'm super happy about that. I should be back riding very soon and I am very happy about that!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanbouma View Post
    The guy from Hayes sent me new everything. Bearings and axle etc. Even sent the freehub body in chromoly like I asked about. I'm super happy about that. I should be back riding very soon and I am very happy about that!
    Welcome to the world of mass produced parts. It has happened with projectors that retail over 100k and I got stuck with having to resolve it. Yus, it's a bummer when multiple issues arise and that can occur regardless of bike maker.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BansheeRune View Post
    Welcome to the world of mass produced parts. It has happened with projectors that retail over 100k and I got stuck with having to resolve it. Yus, it's a bummer when multiple issues arise and that can occur regardless of bike maker.
    I understand that. The post you quoted was more of me saying I'm really happy with how Hayes handled the replacement parts. They sent everything to make sure I was covered instead of skimping out and sending just new pawls and spring or even just a new freehub body would have been all I expected. Instead I can rebuild the whole thing with what they sent. Awesome.

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    These days, any manufacturer that will go the extra mile bears paying attention to. With that level of service, they obviously are spot on with custy care as well as caring about their products bringing a good service life. If all were this way!


    With 8 pages going, where are y'all riding your Sergeants? Let's see em in the wild enjoying some +bike habitat!!
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    Sorry for a generic question on such a specific thread but I enjoy coming back to discuss the Sergeant. What maintenance do you perform on your bike prior to storage? Crazy question right? Unfortunately, I suffered a total tear of my distal biceps tendon last week. I'm going under the knife this week and won't be able to ride for a while. So, prior to an extended period out of the saddle, are there any specific maintenance items that I should make sure are good to go? Thanks.

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    Should be able to just hang it up and be good from there.

    Keeping in a place away from exhaust fumes will preserve tires.

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    Thanks, Banshee. Just wanted to make sure there wasn't something specific that should be addressed. I appreciate the well wishes also.

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    Maybe deflate the fork, leave it in the highest gear, make sure it's clean dry and lubed, and rotate the wheels everyonce in a while so the tires don't develope flat spots. Maybe overkill...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanbouma View Post
    Im worried they're only going to send springs and pawls because something gouged the driver inside the hub too. You can see marks between pawls in this photo: https://www.dropbox.com/s/y1zkt8232q...30254.JPG?dl=0

    Those marks are only between the broken and good pawl. I sent the photo and mentioned it to Sun ringle but I don't think he understood. I think he probably was referring to the gouges on the outside of the driver, which are normal and expected.

    Yes Alex has been doing his best, but I am quite frustrated with this bike. First the star nut creeped out and I couldnt assemble the bike. I dont live near an LBS so Alex sent a new star nut but it never showed up. I broke down after two weeks and drove to a shop to buy a $1 part and set the new nut myself. Assembled the bike and the brakes had a problem. Still dont know what was wrong but I could not safely ride the bike. Alex was great and sent new brakes without hesitation. New ones work. Got 5 rides on the bike and now the hub has me out for who knows how many rides. I gotta do the work on my brand new bike. I looked seriously at used and went new for reliability. Having a hard time enjoying the bike.
    That messed up freehub looks just like mine! I have a 2016 Big Chief with Mulefuts. Sun Ringle SRC hub. I've about 500K on. I've had the rear bearings changed twice and yesterday I just changed the pawls and ratchet ring.

    http://forums.mtbr.com/wheels-tires/...e-1081495.html

    While I'm complaining, I had to have the SRAM Guide R levels warrantied because they wouldn't return in warm weather (known issue). I love this bike, but I've done more work on this bike in 18 months then an old Trek I ran for 13 years. None of this is RSDs fault though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stm32disco View Post
    That messed up freehub looks just like mine! I have a 2016 Big Chief with Mulefuts. Sun Ringle SRC hub. I've about 500K on. I've had the rear bearings changed twice and yesterday I just changed the pawls and ratchet ring.

    http://forums.mtbr.com/wheels-tires/...e-1081495.html

    While I'm complaining, I had to have the SRAM Guide R levels warrantied because they wouldn't return in warm weather (known issue). I love this bike, but I've done more work on this bike in 18 months then an old Trek I ran for 13 years. None of this is RSDs fault though.
    Frankly, I have done very little following the build of three RSD's. Being mindful that mass produced components are likely to have a %age of product failures when you are dealing with items produced in batches of a million or more. So, if we look at the total number of failed item x out of a production run of 1.25 million, where is the % of failure at?

    With the Sram brakes, I had a lever fail and warranty was excellent. The Sram brakes are on the shelf for emergency situations and Hope Tech3 E4's are the daily driver. There's nothing like fitting F350 brakes to a Toyota SR5!
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    Quote Originally Posted by stm32disco View Post
    That messed up freehub looks just like mine! I have a 2016 Big Chief with Mulefuts. Sun Ringle SRC hub. I've about 500K on. I've had the rear bearings changed twice and yesterday I just changed the pawls and ratchet ring.

    http://forums.mtbr.com/wheels-tires/...e-1081495.html

    While I'm complaining, I had to have the SRAM Guide R levels warrantied because they wouldn't return in warm weather (known issue). I love this bike, but I've done more work on this bike in 18 months then an old Trek I ran for 13 years. None of this is RSDs fault though.
    I need to get my Guide R brakes replaced for the same reason. What's the process to get them warrantied?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MinesPunk View Post
    I need to get my Guide R brakes replaced for the same reason. What's the process to get them warrantied?
    The bike shop I normally go to was very familiar the warm-weather problem. In my case, I took the bike in and they sent the levers away and put them back on. It took just under 3 weeks. SRAM has a 2 year warranty.

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    I have a feeling my SRAMs will be gone before I have any warranty issues. They just plain suck. I've increased the front rotor to a 203 and still not enought. Saints or Hopes as soon as I can afford them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanbouma View Post
    I have a feeling my SRAMs will be gone before I have any warranty issues. They just plain suck. I've increased the front rotor to a 203 and still not enought. Saints or Hopes as soon as I can afford them.
    XT is dual piston now too

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    Quote Originally Posted by MinesPunk View Post
    I need to get my Guide R brakes replaced for the same reason. What's the process to get them warrantied?

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    Speak with Alex and he can direct you on this. LBS should have no issue with warranty if they are still covered.
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    Hello people, I have just purchased a Sergeant frame and need some guidance on tires. I am looking for the preferred 2.8 tires for New England roots and rocks. I'll be on 40mm internal rims and interested in traction and durability more than speed.
    Bicycles don't have motors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mileslong View Post
    Hello people, I have just purchased a Sergeant frame and need some guidance on tires. I am looking for the preferred 2.8 tires for New England roots and rocks. I'll be on 40mm internal rims and interested in traction and durability more than speed.
    Maxxis has their DHR/DHF, Schwalbe offers Nobby Nic 2.8 snakeskin for a lil more durability. Ether should serve well.

    And, bicycles do have motors... Look in the mirror to have a look at one!
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    Any Middlechild ride reports?

    Should we start a new thread... Love the sarge but kinda itchin for some slack steel

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fuzzy Dunlop01 View Post
    Any Middlechild ride reports?

    Should we start a new thread... Love the sarge but kinda itchin for some slack steel

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    Quote Originally Posted by BansheeRune View Post
    Maxxis has their DHR/DHF, Schwalbe offers Nobby Nic 2.8 snakeskin for a lil more durability. Ether should serve well.

    And, bicycles do have motors... Look in the mirror to have a look at one!
    All good suggestions but I picked up a pair of Maxxis Chronicles for a discount...waiting for my frame. my 140mm Yari and my wheels. Drivetrain will be a 1x10 with all XO bits, XO brakes too, all from my old hardtail.
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    I have my original equipment Chronys. Never have used em again tho. Simply didn't like the feel or performance of them.
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    Well, now I have a really annoying creak that sounds like it's coming from the cranks. I was chasing my seat post, handlebars, etc. but I'm pretty sure it's the cranks. Anybody else have any creak issues with the raceface turbines? I'm debating pulling the cranks off and the BB apart and relubing and assembling to try and get rid of it. Any success stories would help. Thanks.

    Oh ya, that's only 9 rides in on it.

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    Any Middlechild ride reports?

    Should we start a new thread... Love the sarge but kinda itchin for some slack steel

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanbouma View Post
    Well, now I have a really annoying creak that sounds like it's coming from the cranks. I was chasing my seat post, handlebars, etc. but I'm pretty sure it's the cranks. Anybody else have any creak issues with the raceface turbines? I'm debating pulling the cranks off and the BB apart and relubing and assembling to try and get rid of it. Any success stories would help. Thanks.

    Oh ya, that's only 9 rides in on it.
    After two years of riding Sarge, he's behaving well and have not had the creaking BB crop up yet.
    An overhaul should resolve it. Lube the spindle as well as set the preload appropriately and you should be good to go.
    The Race Face BB has some form of thread locker compound on it from the factory that is supposed to prevent creaking from the BB shell/cup interface.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BansheeRune View Post
    After two years of riding Sarge, he's behaving well and have not had the creaking BB crop up yet.
    An overhaul should resolve it. Lube the spindle as well as set the preload appropriately and you should be good to go.
    The Race Face BB has some form of thread locker compound on it from the factory that is supposed to prevent creaking from the BB shell/cup interface.
    My raceface turbine /wolftooth CAMO was creaking... Not a stock RSD, either. Was way worse when i was cranking hard as a single speed.

    I reinstalled and regreased. Never touched the bottom bracket. Check the spider bolts and especially the raceface preload ring. I haven't had problems in a while after the last cleaning and its super dusty here in socal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fuzzy Dunlop01 View Post
    My raceface turbine /wolftooth CAMO was creaking... Not a stock RSD, either. Was way worse when i was cranking hard as a single speed.

    I reinstalled and regreased. Never touched the bottom bracket. Check the spider bolts and especially the raceface preload ring. I haven't had problems in a while after the last cleaning and its super dusty here in socal.

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    Thanks guys. Sounds like a re and re will take care of it. I'm even more positive that's the creak now.

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    Just an update, I pulled out the cranks and quickly realized race face uses a different pattern on their BB spanner wrench thingy. Great. Why race face, why?? Anyways, I figured let's see if it's loose enough for channel lock pliers, fully expecting it would not be. Don't worry, I wrapped shop cloth around the BB. They were barely more than hand tight. Very little grease, and dirty. Cleaned it all up and torqued everything to spec, except the BB which had to go back on with the channel lock pliers, though were tightened more than before. Absolutely no creaking now. Hopefully it does not return, cause I just want to ride this thing.

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    Ryan, how are we gonna keep the park tool designers in a job if you and I are not forced to buy yet another specialty tool??

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    Quote Originally Posted by BansheeRune View Post
    Speak with Alex and he can direct you on this. LBS should have no issue with warranty if they are still covered.
    For those that have had their Guide R brakes warrantied which parts need to go to the shop? Piston and lever or caliper? Maybe all of the above? Thanks for the help, hoping to hit the local shop this weekend to get the brake warranty done

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    Quote Originally Posted by MinesPunk View Post
    For those that have had their Guide R brakes warrantied which parts need to go to the shop? Piston and lever or caliper? Maybe all of the above? Thanks for the help, hoping to hit the local shop this weekend to get the brake warranty done

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    Most likely just the affected component. Frankly, I replaced the Guides with Hope Tech 3 E4's and haven't looked back. Was 179 per axle and worth every penny.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MinesPunk View Post
    For those that have had their Guide R brakes warrantied which parts need to go to the shop? Piston and lever or caliper? Maybe all of the above? Thanks for the help, hoping to hit the local shop this weekend to get the brake warranty done

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    I took the levers in. I was going to fix it myself to avoid the 2-3 weeks of downtime, but you need some 0.9mm snap ring pliers to get the ring out.

    This should have been a recall or something. I don't know anyone with Guide R's that didn't need to get this done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stm32disco View Post
    I took the levers in. I was going to fix it myself to avoid the 2-3 weeks of downtime, but you need some 0.9mm snap ring pliers to get the ring out.

    This should have been a recall or something. I don't know anyone with Guide R's that didn't need to get this done.
    I would agree. Frankly, I repaired my brakes after changing over to a set of orange Hopes and sold em.
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    first ride on new build

    Had my shakedown ride on my new Sergeant. This is the bike I've been looking for. Built up with full SLX drivetrain and brakes, XT hubs and bottom bracket with Easton Havoc bar, stem and seat post. I'll probably get a dropper 'cause this thing goes down fast!

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    Since I know the Sergeant were shipping with SunRingle Duroc 50 wheelsets with SRX hubs, if anyone needs a spare freehub driver, or wants to switch to an XD driver, I've got a few spares sitting around I'm willing to sell for $20. PM me if interested.
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    Has anybody sold their other bikes after getting a Sergeant? My XC hardtail and my rigid fatbike are advertised for sale as the way to pay for my Sergeant. But now I'm thinking that the Bronson has been rendered redundant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mileslong View Post
    Has anybody sold their other bikes after getting a Sergeant? My XC hardtail and my rigid fatbike are advertised for sale as the way to pay for my Sergeant. But now I'm thinking that the Bronson has been rendered redundant.

    Will I regret liquidating or have I discovered the holy grail?
    If my 2016 sergeant had the front end geometry of the Middlechild I would buy a Ti version and liquidate all other bikes in my house. As it is now I'm holding onto my old school 26er with 160mm front and back for downhill entertainment

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    What do you mean front end geometry? As in....reach?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PHeller View Post
    What do you mean front end geometry? As in....reach?
    Reach and slacker head angle. I just like being a bit more stretched. If I could run 27.5x3.8 on the Middle child like I can on the sergeant the sarge would've already been sold

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    I actually determined that because the standover and head tube length don't change on the L/XL/XXL Sergeants, if you can fit a Large V2, you can also fit a XXL V2, and gain reach/ETT.

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    My X9 derailleur self destructed yesterday. The arm just fell off while riding. Looks press fit to the derailleur body to hold the spring captive and that just separated and the spring fell out. Very frustrating as this is another break down I did not want to deal with. It was not due to a crash or strike and the bike has less than 200km on it!!!

    In any case my question has to do with converting to 11 speed with a shimano groupset. Anyone know if the free hubs are 11 speed compatible or how to get one? I'm a little unsure of how all that works/goes together. Seems some freehubs are 11 speed with a spacer for the 10sp cassettes while some are 8/9/10 sp and need to be replaced to work with 11 sp.

    If it's a lost cause I'll see about getting SRAM to warranty the derailleur. Funny, I was a SRAM fanboy until this bike. Shimano from now on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PHeller View Post
    I actually determined that because the standover and head tube length don't change on the L/XL/XXL Sergeants, if you can fit a Large V2, you can also fit a XXL V2, and gain reach/ETT.
    From what I can tell that's exactly right. I have the XXL. It is a little long in terms of pedal strikes going over rock outcrops common around me, but does give nice reach when climbing steep stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanbouma View Post
    My X9 derailleur self destructed yesterday. The arm just fell off while riding. Looks press fit to the derailleur body to hold the spring captive and that just separated and the spring fell out. Very frustrating as this is another break down I did not want to deal with. It was not due to a crash or strike and the bike has less than 200km on it!!!

    In any case my question has to do with converting to 11 speed with a shimano groupset. Anyone know if the free hubs are 11 speed compatible or how to get one? I'm a little unsure of how all that works/goes together. Seems some freehubs are 11 speed with a spacer for the 10sp cassettes while some are 8/9/10 sp and need to be replaced to work with 11 sp.

    If it's a lost cause I'll see about getting SRAM to warranty the derailleur. Funny, I was a SRAM fanboy until this bike. Shimano from now on.
    Frankly, there has never been a derailleur to survive me. With X9 and three years and who's counting mileage, Sarge still has his X9 type II going nicely.
    The part that came apart was not staked properly and lead to an early failure. Check with your LBS for warranty on it. They might need your receipt for verification of warranty. If need be, reach out to Alex to get a copy emailed your way.

    On the 11 speed side of things, what hub are you dealing with?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BansheeRune View Post
    Frankly, there has never been a derailleur to survive me. With X9 and three years and who's counting mileage, Sarge still has his X9 type II going nicely.
    The part that came apart was not staked properly and lead to an early failure. Check with your LBS for warranty on it. They might need your receipt for verification of warranty. If need be, reach out to Alex to get a copy emailed your way.

    On the 11 speed side of things, what hub are you dealing with?
    Derailleur are a common failure which is why I fear I wonít be helped.

    Problem with going to an LBS is the fact that I didnít buy from them. I have my receipt from February, but how awkward to ask for help after not supporting them. I find it ironic. Iím sure they would too. Iíll ask Alex if he has a SRAM contact or something. I think Alex is tired of me as Iíve had a ďfewĒ problems.

    Iíve been very happy with the shifting performance with it until this happened. So odd as Iíve managed to keep it completely out of harms way and then bam.

    I have the SRC hub from the mulefut wheels. Not sure what else to say about them. I can pull the cassette off if that would help??

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    No need to pull it apart. I'll check into the compatibility of the existing driver and let ya know.

    Alex is a good egg. He cares deeply about his business and clients, so not likely that he's finding issue with ya. The simple fact of the matter is that Sram should stand behind their products and you should get more than a few hundred km out of a derailleur. Give it a go as these X9's ain't cheap, low end parts.

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    Hi Ryan,
    No worries. Don't ever hesitate to reach out.
    When it comes to parts that have a high rate of wear and tear, it's very difficult to get a warranty from the manufacturer, but not impossible. Try your LBS anyway and see what happens.
    Your hub is an SRC with a 10/11spd Shimano driver. Good to go, if you want to switch to 11spd, as long as the cassette is not SRAM XD
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    Quote Originally Posted by RSD Bikes View Post
    Hi Ryan,
    No worries. Don't ever hesitate to reach out.
    When it comes to parts that have a high rate of wear and tear, it's very difficult to get a warranty from the manufacturer, but not impossible. Try your LBS anyway and see what happens.
    Your hub is an SRC with a 10/11spd Shimano driver. Good to go, if you want to switch to 11spd, as long as the cassette is not SRAM XD
    Alex, thanks for posting and that is great news about the 11 speed.

    Iíll shoot you an email. I have a picture of the derailleur as it fell apart on the trail. I figure it will be hard to get warranty given the type of part, but Iíve never seen this before. Bent a lot of derailleur but this one hasnít a scratch (pure luck to be honest).

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanbouma View Post
    Derailleur are a common failure which is why I fear I wonít be helped.

    Problem with going to an LBS is the fact that I didnít buy from them. I have my receipt from February, but how awkward to ask for help after not supporting them. I find it ironic. Iím sure they would too. Iíll ask Alex if he has a SRAM contact or something. I think Alex is tired of me as Iíve had a ďfewĒ problems.

    Iíve been very happy with the shifting performance with it until this happened. So odd as Iíve managed to keep it completely out of harms way and then bam.

    I have the SRC hub from the mulefut wheels. Not sure what else to say about them. I can pull the cassette off if that would help??

    Thanks!
    An LBS not willing to go to bat for you is an LBS choosing to send you elsewhere for your next bike purchase, bottom line.

    Here is the response from the manufacturer of your hub on the topic of compatibility.

    If you currently have the shimano style fhb and plan to use a shimano drivetrain the standard freehub would work for 9 through 11 speed cassettes. 12 speed shimano requires a special freehub body and I do not believe the 12sp shimano drivetrain has been released yet. Regardless, we do not have a freehub for 12sp shimano as they have a special partnership with DT Swiss. For Sram, you will need an XD driver (Part #: 281-31520-K004) which will handle all 10-12 speed Sram XD Cassette bodies. If you have any additional questions please let me know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BansheeRune View Post
    An LBS not willing to go to bat for you is an LBS choosing to send you elsewhere for your next bike purchase, bottom line.
    I didn't mean a bike store wouldn't go to bat for me or at least try. I said I don't agree with having to go to a store for help. Take for instance if you and I both sold widgets on First Street right next to each other, and a customer shopped in both our stores. I have widgets for cheaper so the customer chooses to buy his widget from me. Then his widget breaks. Who should he go to for help? Me or you? Will you help him? Probably because you're nice. But what store is the logical place to get help? It would be my store. If your widgets cost more, maybe it's because yours are better or your have better service. That doesn't excuse me from not servicing my customer. And how would you feel if that customer came to me with his broken widget and I said "go next door to that Banshee Rune guy, he'll take care of you because he'll want to sell you a widget next time you need one". Does that actually make sense to you?

    Being an ID company does not excuse this basic principle. Not sure why this is difficult for people to understand... From Amazon to Canyon I've only ever known ID companies to deal directly with the customer. In any case, Alex didn't have a contact at SRAM for me and I can't find one, so I'll figure it out on my own or with help from an LBS.

    Quote Originally Posted by BansheeRune View Post
    Here is the response from the manufacturer of your hub on the topic of compatibility.
    Thank you for double confirming this for me. I appreciate that.

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    It's not about where the original sale took place so much as time squandered. Sure, you can send the faulty component to Alex in Toronto and wait for a round trip to and from Canadia or visit the LBS and expedite the ordeal. I did this with my brakes when the went tits up. It is and was a known failed design that Sram has put out. When the replacement arrived, I promptly gave em away cause Sarge is my buddy and got a set of Hope Tech3 E4's in new black (read orange) for his birthday.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BansheeRune View Post
    It's not about where the original sale took place so much as time squandered. Sure, you can send the faulty component to Alex in Toronto and wait for a round trip to and from Canadia or visit the LBS and expedite the ordeal. I did this with my brakes when the went tits up. It is and was a known failed design that Sram has put out. When the replacement arrived, I promptly gave em away cause Sarge is my buddy and got a set of Hope Tech3 E4's in new black (read orange) for his birthday.
    I live in Canada and sending back wasnít even an option (or expected). Alex didnít even have a contact or a way to deal with warranties with SRAM by the sounds of his email.

    Why are you moving the goal posts and arguing my perspective of not wanting to ask an LBS to service something someone else sold me. This is actually quite ridiculous. Surely Iím not crazy?? You donít see my perspective at all? Iíve been nothing but patient with this bike. I hoped to do YouTube vids and Instagram posts praising this up and coming bike company from my country. Started the day it arrived, and quite about 3 weeks into ownership. I cheer for the underdog any chance I get. But jeez man, thereís a breaking point. Alex had a contact for my hub at Hays that worked out well, but nothing for SRAM apparently. He told me to go ask an LBS. Ok no problem. Iím getting the hint from both of you. You love your sergeant youíve made that more than clear, but RSD isnít for me I guess.

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    The goal post is set in bloody concrete... Stated a possible time saver and got my fvckin head tore off and shyt down my fvcking throat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BansheeRune View Post
    The goal post is set in bloody concrete... Stated a possible time saver and got my fvckin head tore off and shyt down my fvcking throat.

    Have a great day...

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    The time saver logic was never mentioned until your post above. Before the logic was the LBS wants to help me. Not sure how that isnít moving the goal posts in this argument.

    BTW, your last post is a bit of an over reaction. Iím explaining my position and wondering how you donít see the irony in using an lbs. if you really canít see that, ok fair enough. Agree to disagree.

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    Iím re reading my posts trying to understand where your reaction is coming from. Possibly not reading it with the right tone. Youíve been helpful. Iím not ripping your head off.

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    Just wanted to update this thread as I got an email from Alex yesterday. He said he put his feet in my shoes and thought he would be upset too. He put a new derailleur in the mail no questions asked. He assured me what I've experienced is rare, and I believe that. Most of us break our parts before they wear out.

    So that was pretty cool of him and I may even be lucky enough to have it by the weekend and able to ride again. Thanks again Alex!

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    What occurred with your failed derailleur is a pin was not properly staked during manufacture. That happens in mass production as not each item is inspected but a few are pulled for spot inspection.

    With my collection of bikes I do have many parts on the shelf that can get a bike on the trail while a replacement part is on its way.

    On another note, I do business with High Ti Cycles on a routine basis. The owner has no direct access to component manufacturers but does go through suppliers such as QBP and BTI. Those rep companies will honor warranty no differently than Sram, Shimano or any other out there since it is their job to represent the product line.
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    Has anyone drilled their frame for an internal dropper? Thinking of doing this and looking for tips.

    I rode a dropper equipped bike last week and it was way more helpful than I thought it would be.

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    I've done a few for others. It does take a steady hand to do well. Two holes and trim the salvage between holes, chamfer with a file for the hose/cable to resit in the opening without being damaged by sharp edges, away ya go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kenais View Post
    Has anyone drilled their frame for an internal dropper? Thinking of doing this and looking for tips.

    I rode a dropper equipped bike last week and it was way more helpful than I thought it would be.
    https://www.peterverdone.com/drillin...d-bike-frames/

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    Great writeup, Minespunk! That should help out the peeps thinking bout doing the internal routed dropper.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kenais View Post
    Has anyone drilled their frame for an internal dropper? Thinking of doing this and looking for tips.

    I rode a dropper equipped bike last week and it was way more helpful than I thought it would be.
    I wouldn't dream of drilling a hole in my Sergeant but I wanted a nice,neat and reliable dropper. My Magura Vyron is just the ticket! Go wireless and leave the drilling to the Luddites.

    This is coming from a guy who can't figure out how to post a picture of his bike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cornfield View Post
    I keep popping in here to see pix,

    I am disappoint...
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    Perfect, thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by kenais View Post
    Perfect, thanks!

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    No problem, that guy has a ton of good info on his site. How do you like the Terrene's in the snow?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kenais View Post
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    The Sergeant is a tallish stack bike to begin with. What size frame is this and do you feel you bought too small of a frame? Your saddle to bars ratio look right, but you're on stilts, dood.

    This is often my issue with bikes. In general, they're designed around little guys.

    I'm running 32mm of spacers, 70x10deg Thomson stem, and 38mm riser bars on my Stache to get it up where it should be. (Bars slightly above saddle)

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    Quote Originally Posted by MinesPunk View Post
    No problem, that guy has a ton of good info on his site. How do you like the Terrene's in the snow?
    The Terrenes work great in packed snow conditions, the studs help a lot. They struggle on powder where a wider tire would be helpful. The local trails get packed out quickly so itís not a big deal for me, besides if the snow is good Iím going skiing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chelboed View Post
    The Sergeant is a tallish stack bike to begin with. What size frame is this and do you feel you bought too small of a frame? Your saddle to bars ratio look right, but you're on stilts, dood.

    This is often my issue with bikes. In general, they're designed around little guys.

    I'm running 32mm of spacers, 70x10deg Thomson stem, and 38mm riser bars on my Stache to get it up where it should be. (Bars slightly above saddle)
    Itís an XL and Iím 6í 3Ē, the size feels good. Itís defently my tallest bike. If I had a little longer stem Iíd try it but it feels good enough as is to not go out and buy one.

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    Tire Size

    Quote Originally Posted by kryten View Post
    I built mine up over a week ago. A new specific thread would be awesome. Can't figure out how to post photos on this forum for some reason. So far getting used to the bike, but like it more every ride.
    Hey kryten, what width tires did you put on the Middlechild ?
    I am thinking of building one up and wondering what the maximum size of tire would fit in the rear ? RSD say 3" should fit but may rub a bit...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rad Kal View Post
    Hey kryten, what width tires did you put on the Middlechild ?
    I am thinking of building one up and wondering what the maximum size of tire would fit in the rear ? RSD say 3" should fit but may rub a bit...
    2.8 Rekons on 40mm id rims. They are far from true 2.8 in typical Maxxis fashion.
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    Done and doner, drilled at an angle and cleaned it up. Waiting for the trails to dry to dial it in.

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    I wanted a dropper so bad for the sarge this summer I was considering drilling (external routed posts are generally more expensive and don't look as good) , but I didn't do it for 2 reasons, 1 it MUST void warranty anytime you drill a hole in the frame, and 2 with my luck drilling a small hole in the frame would be all it would take to eventually crack the frame and I'd be SOL because of reason 1. But to each his own I guess

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    Quote Originally Posted by trials4evr View Post
    I wanted a dropper so bad for the sarge this summer I was considering drilling (external routed posts are generally more expensive and don't look as good) , but I didn't do it for 2 reasons, 1 it MUST void warranty anytime you drill a hole in the frame, and 2 with my luck drilling a small hole in the frame would be all it would take to eventually crack the frame and I'd be SOL because of reason 1. But to each his own I guess
    I had the same concerns with my 2016. I want a slacker hardtail for Western trails and considered eventually upgrading to a Ti Sergeant using the 2016 aluminum parts. I bought a Fox Transfer external post with a Wolftooth lever and couldn't be happier with that combo. I prefer external routing for all parts since it's easier to change out when needed

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    Snow in September, wtf RSD Sergeant thread (Pix are appreciated)-p5pb16352583.jpg
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    At least the sarge is taking it in stride.

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    Rigid carbon 27+ boost fork

    RSD Sergeant thread (Pix are appreciated)-6e674217-594f-4d1c-9387-63f0bac141db.jpgAnyone has tried theses chinese carbon forks with sarge, I plan to use one during winter coupled with a Minion FBF

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    Quote Originally Posted by trials4evr View Post
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    At least the sarge is taking it in stride.
    Is this V1 or V2 ? And what tire size are you running ? Looks fat !


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rad Kal View Post
    Is this V1 or V2 ? And what tire size are you running ? Looks fat !


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    V1. Mine fits Bontrager Chupacabra 27.5x3.8 but others have had troubles with that one, guess I got lucky

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    It's a v1 sarge. First pic is the way it's set up now with 3 inch nobby nics. The second pic was the way I had it set up over the summer with 2.6 nobby nic front and a rock razor in the back. I swapped tires to the 3" nns the night the second pic was taken Probably looks a bit fatter due to the mud and snow stuck in the tires.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trials4evr View Post
    It's a v1 sarge. First pic is the way it's set up now with 3 inch nobby nics. The second pic was the way I had it set up over the summer with 2.6 nobby nic front and a rock razor in the back. I swapped tires to the 3" nns the night the second pic was taken Probably looks a bit fatter due to the mud and snow stuck in the tires.
    Awesome looking bike. I am thinking of getting one of these for winter riding. Based on you observation, do you think it would fit a 3.8 tire as advertised ? I know, its hard to say if you havenít tried but...Also how do these size ? I spoke to Alex and he recommended a medium for my 5í-11Ē height. I usually ride a L as I prefer a larger fit (long limbs). Donít want to get myself into buying a too small of a bike (again)


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rad Kal View Post
    Awesome looking bike. I am thinking of getting one of these for winter riding. Based on you observation, do you think it would fit a 3.8 tire as advertised ? I know, its hard to say if you havenít tried but...Also how do these size ? I spoke to Alex and he recommended a medium for my 5í-11Ē height. I usually ride a L as I prefer a larger fit (long limbs). Donít want to get myself into buying a too small of a bike (again)


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    If it won't fit a Chupacabra you can get Maxxis 3.8 tires to fit. I'm 6'1" with a 36" inseam, bought a large and suspect I would've been comfortable on a XL. Where are you located? People on this sub come from all over and are pretty friendly, if someone is nearby you I'm sure they'll let you take one for a spin. I'm in Southeast Michigan if that helps

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    Quote Originally Posted by MinesPunk View Post
    If it won't fit a Chupacabra you can get Maxxis 3.8 tires to fit. I'm 6'1" with a 36" inseam, bought a large and suspect I would've been comfortable on a XL. Where are you located? People on this sub come from all over and are pretty friendly, if someone is nearby you I'm sure they'll let you take one for a spin. I'm in Southeast Michigan if that helps

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    Thanks for the info. I am located in Toronto. I think I will go for a large then


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rad Kal View Post
    Thanks for the info. I am located in Toronto. I think I will go for a large then


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    Pretty sure that's where RSD is located. If so I'm sure that Alex could arrange a test ride for you

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    Sounds like a large is what you need. MinesPunk is right, talk to Alex and set up a test ride rsd is based in Toronto. I can't comment on the tire question, the biggest I've gone is the 3' nns all I can say is that the 3' fits with the slider in the forward most position. So if imagine sliding them back would free up some more room for a larger tire.
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    since Alex got me back in business I wanted to mention that I went into an enduro race with my Sergeant last weekend! Yup, only HT in the race. Got a lot of funny looks. Held my own too! I plan to do some XC races with it next year also. Itís a very well rounded bike if you can do that and not get destroyed.

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    RSD Sergeant thread (Pix are appreciated)-img_0947.jpg

    I went with the PNW Cascade dropper. Cheap and functional, I may upgrade to the new lever they just announced.

    Got a new wheelset a few months ago, Oozy Spanks with Onyx hubs. There's no way I can ride Singlespeed on a regular hub again, the silence and instant engagement are really something else. I picked up the wheels used so they're narrower than what I would prefer at only 35id. It's a different feeling than a big 3.0 on a 45id that I've been riding for the last 3 years on various bikes but it hasn't lost any of the fun factor.


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    Kitted up for a bikepacking trip



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    After bikepacking I rode it around for a day with nothing on it, snappy!


    I'm moving to Scotland next week and sold all my other bikes and will just be taking the Sarg. Hope he's up for a sloppy winter of riding

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    How do you add photos to a post?

    ETA Iím on a mobile. Maybe desktop is better for this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanbouma View Post
    How do you add photos to a post?

    ETA Iím on a mobile. Maybe desktop is better for this?
    On mobile, it may be different from puter since the site has a different appearance.

    Under advanced, scroll down and select upload images.
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