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    Unfortunately the slide outs need to be slammed all the way back for no chain or chainstay rub, and that is at real world riding psi at 12 in the rear. I might drop another psi or so once getting it dialed but rub will still be an issue if the sliders aren't back all the way. The knobs are definitely a few mm wider than the casing and the tire is also very tall with the treads. I also need to add another link or two to the chain, as I can no longer get into the 42t gear. I'll get them in the dirt tomorrow for a real ride report and/if any issues. Sarge is definitely looking a bit meaner, and more of what my idea of a plus bike should look like now.

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    I just plunked down my money on a 2016. I am currently running a Norco torrent 7.2, love it but so does my wife. She told me I could upgrade and she wants the torrent. I was looking at full suspension, higher dollar hardtails, etc. With the discounted price I kept coming back to the Sarge, I can afford to add a dropper, another set of wheels with 3.8's, whatever I want. I hope i like it as much as all you guys do. Looks like I'll be selling my fatbike now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by triathloner View Post
    I just plunked down my money on a 2016. I am currently running a Norco torrent 7.2, love it but so does my wife. She told me I could upgrade and she wants the torrent. I was looking at full suspension, higher dollar hardtails, etc. With the discounted price I kept coming back to the Sarge, I can afford to add a dropper, another set of wheels with 3.8's, whatever I want. I hope i like it as much as all you guys do. Looks like I'll be selling my fatbike now.
    Infidel!! No need to sell the fatty just cause ya got a Sarge of your very own...
    I have both Sarge and the Mayor and love em both cause they outperform everything else in the price range. Doll up Momma's bike and get your RSD out and have a great day of riding with the Mrs... And do keep the fat cause it's definitely awesome riding fat from time to time as well.
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    I'm starting to think about a plus bike, and the claims that Sargent can run a 27.5 x 3.8 or 29+ tire are very enticing for a long distance fat bike (my legs don't do well with a 100mm bottom bracket). Anyone done that? What was the frame clearance? Does it require a truncated cassette? Thanks!

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    Shred, those are looking as fat as my minion FBF's which are labeled 3.8. We all know that Maxxis overstates sizes regularly tho.
    With the FBF's I run 6-7 front and 8-9 rear and they are da bomb! Heavy as hell but surprisingly, they roll very well.
    Crux is looking good on your bike. Might hafta source a pair of em.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fotooutdoors View Post
    I'm starting to think about a plus bike, and the claims that Sargent can run a 27.5 x 3.8 or 29+ tire are very enticing for a long distance fat bike (my legs don't do well with a 100mm bottom bracket). Anyone done that? What was the frame clearance? Does it require a truncated cassette? Thanks!
    While I did look into 29+, I found that 27.5 is very nice in terms of keepin it playful while still having the rollover of tall wheels. I do run the 3.8's for the additional floatation although, they are in no way a replacement for real fat. (4.8)
    I use a 30x36-11 with no issues. 3.8 and flip the chainring and away ya go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JScoot View Post
    Hi I've been looking at the sergeant and comparing it to a steel jamis dragonslayer. Obviously I like how much lighter the sergeant is on paper, but I wonder about the old aluminum vs. steel conundrum. I'm in my 40's and been riding full suspension, do you sergeant riders find that the fat tire smooths out the rear of the bike so that the ride is not too harsh? Or do you still get bounced around like with other hardtails? Any feedback will be helpful, thanks.
    Yes, you'll still get bounced. The plus tire won't replace a rear suspension. The plus tire will help to absorb some small roots and trail chatter. But when it comes to larger roots or baby head rock gardens you'll need to raise off the seat or get "bounced".
    The biggest benefit I've found with the plus tire size is the added stability and traction with turns and climbing. Also the rollover ability, it doesn't get hung up as much on obstacles like those skinny little 2.25 tires.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JScoot View Post
    Thanks for the replies. When I'm looking at the 2016 build kit, it has the 11-36 cassette with a 30 tooth chainring. How does that feel on tech uphills? Has anyone swapped out the cassette for 11-40+? Will the stock derailleur allow for a bigger granny gear? Thx.
    I swapped out the 11-36 with a GX1150 10-42 cassette and GX derailleur. Required an XD driver for compatibility. Also upgraded to an XO 11 speed shifter. Needed that extra high gear sometimes for steeper climbs. Been very happy with the set up. To reference Spinal Tap... Most people's gears only go to 10, mine go to 11.

    Also changed the chairing to an Absolute Black oval 28t, boost version. Very easy swap. No problems with shifting or chain line. No problem adjusting from round to oval. Feel like it's improved my climbing as well as traction with climbing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JScoot View Post
    Hi I've been looking at the sergeant and comparing it to a steel jamis dragonslayer. Obviously I like how much lighter the sergeant is on paper, but I wonder about the old aluminum vs. steel conundrum. I'm in my 40's and been riding full suspension, do you sergeant riders find that the fat tire smooths out the rear of the bike so that the ride is not too harsh? Or do you still get bounced around like with other hardtails? Any feedback will be helpful, thanks.
    You'll still get bounced on a hardtail. The plus tires won't replace a rear shock. It will help absorb some small roots and trail chatter. But when it comes to large roots or baby head rock gardens, you'll still need to raise off the seat or get "bounced".

    The biggest benefit that I've found to plus tires is the added stability and traction in turns and climbs. Also it's rollover ability, keeps better momentum, doesn't get hung up on obstacles as much as those skinny little 2.25 tires.

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    I've just registered to share my custom built Sergeant. I discovered the RSD brand and the Sergeant with this thread while searching for a frame to build my first mountain bike. Did my first ride today and I have to say, it was awesome! Need to fine tune some stuff, but overall, this will be the closest I'll get to own a monster truck!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Houblon mixte View Post
    I've just registered to share my custom built Sergeant. I discovered the RSD brand and the Sergeant with this thread while searching for a frame to build my first mountain bike. Did my first ride today and I have to say, it was awesome! Need to fine tune some stuff, but overall, this will be the closest I'll get to own a monster truck!

    Ps: it's like 99% finished on this pic.
    Welcome to the Platoon mixte... bike looks good.

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    Went tubeless about a week ago, definitely can tell a difference. Like a new pair of sneakers.... I can run faster and jump higher! Used my already seasoned Rocket Ron Lite skins with about 3oz of Orange seal. No leaks or seeping. While I was at it, I changed the black rim strip with some bling. Now the Sarge is prancing around the trails like some kind of show pony.




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    Quote Originally Posted by makpak42 View Post
    Went tubeless about a week ago, definitely can tell a difference. Like a new pair of sneakers.... I can run faster and jump higher! Used my already seasoned Rocket Ron Lite skins with about 3oz of Orange seal. No leaks or seeping. While I was at it, I changed the black rim strip with some bling. Now the Sarge is prancing around the trails like some kind of show pony.




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    Love it! What did you do for a rim strip? I'm looking for a green rim strip similar to my green Race Face Chester pedals

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    Quote Originally Posted by MinesPunk View Post
    Love it! What did you do for a rim strip? I'm looking for a green rim strip similar to my green Race Face Chester pedals

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    ☝🏻What Punk said... what did you use for a rim strip? I've been wanting to do this as well, but I know getting the width of the strip just right makes a big difference tubeless setup with the mulefuts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by makpak42 View Post
    Went tubeless about a week ago, definitely can tell a difference. Like a new pair of sneakers.... I can run faster and jump higher! Used my already seasoned Rocket Ron Lite skins with about 3oz of Orange seal. No leaks or seeping. While I was at it, I changed the black rim strip with some bling. Now the Sarge is prancing around the trails like some kind of show pony.




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    Hard to beat the package Rocket Ron offers. Supple, voluminous, light weight, plenty of traction for the skilled rider in almost all conditions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MinesPunk View Post
    Love it! What did you do for a rim strip? I'm looking for a green rim strip similar to my green Race Face Chester pedals

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    Thanks. I ordered the "Bling Strips" from fattystripper.com. (don't put a space between fatty and stripper, brings up search results you don't want to see, trust me ). When ordering, provide wheelset model and size so he can cut them to size. It's essentially a reflective strip made by 3M.
    Also used Sun Ringle rim tape, tubeless valves and Orange Seal ordered from Tree Fort Bikes.
    Watched a couple "how to" videos and got to it.

    It was difficult to get the Bling strip to lay flush to the rim. So I put the original black rim strip over the top to hold the Bling strip flush and in place. When I did that, because the black strip is so tight, it created a fold/ripple in the Bling strip. I used 2 plastic tire levers. I put them under the black rim strip and across the rim, like a bridge, about 6-7 inched apart. That created some space. So by sliding the levers along the rim I was able to manually work the ripple out and center the Bling strip in the rim along the way. The black rim strip held the Bling strip nice and snug to the rim. I also lined up the original valve hole in the black strip to the rim but you probably don't have to.
    I overlapped the Bling strip ends over the rim valve stem hole. Careful you don't have have a bling strip end showing in a rim hole.

    Reapplied the rim tape, pulling it tight and worked it in. The rest was pretty easy.
    Probably had both wheels done in a little over an hour. Of course the second wheel went quicker than the first one.

    As far as durability for the Bling strip, I don't know. Seems good but time will tell.

    I know its more info than you asked for. Just wanted to express my experience with it, if it may help anyone. And fyi, I like bourbon

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    Thanks! What 3.8 tire do you run? I realize that they aren't a drop in replacement for a 4.8 (or 2xl), but 3.8s have their place. Honestly, I stayed on a 3.8 this winter because I was lazy and didn't switch my rear tire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BansheeRune View Post
    Shred, those are looking as fat as my minion FBF's which are labeled 3.8. We all know that Maxxis overstates sizes regularly tho.
    With the FBF's I run 6-7 front and 8-9 rear and they are da bomb! Heavy as hell but surprisingly, they roll very well.
    Crux is looking good on your bike. Might hafta source a pair of em.

    Sarge got hold of my card and went berserk ordering brakes for himself and the Mayor. Guess he didn't wanna go down solo!
    Thanks BR... I'm really, really digging the new tires. Having some minor issues with leaking sealant from the beads but the tires are very impressive, and I am equally impressed by the added volume, grip, and rolling speed. Really like the bite of the side knobs too, I'm able to tilt Sarge a bit more sideways into the turns without drifting much. They'll start to slip a bit when pushed real hard, but the outer side knobs bites in and holds a nice solid edge, and let's you hold your line instead of adjusting speed or your original line. I definitely recommend them. Amazing float/volume, much more traction and bite in the turns than the RR, roll real fast like the RR, not terribly heavy ~1075grams, and they are very supple. Also priced very well, tires came to $55 per tire shipped from Italy. Sarge is loving his new rubber 👌🏻👍🏻. How are the hopes working for you? They look mint, I'm sure the performance is primo too.

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    Sarge is enjoying the "New Black" brakes. The nice thing is just a light tug on the lever yields results. If the brakes don't throw ya through the widshield, they don't work...

    On to those Crux's, sounds like a fantastic find on those! The tread pattern appears to have a fast rolling center with an aggressive edge. Pfft! Now I might hafta order up a pair of em. :/

    My RR's are the liteskin version to keep Sarge svelte. Started running em tubeless a few months ago when a friend recommended Orange Seal over Stan's.
    I just cannot deal with the disastrous mess that Stan's makes of my tires. The other issue is the sealant would make tires feel like 2 ply DH tires with thornproof tubes. Not one issue with OS and tires are still supple and holding air well. Not one seep of fluid or sealant with OS.

    foto, I have the Maxxis FBF 3.8's. There's no comparison between the FBF's and say, Knard 26x3.8. Knard is way fatter than the FBF. The FBF's roll fast and all that and feel similar to a Larry with double deep treads. Float is nice and riding sand works well especially with low pressure for reasonable squish of the tires. Haven't tried em in snow yet but I imagine, I'll hafta use the wrinkle count method for air pressure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by makpak42 View Post
    I swapped out the 11-36 with a GX1150 10-42 cassette and GX derailleur. Required an XD driver for compatibility. Also upgraded to an XO 11 speed shifter. Needed that extra high gear sometimes for steeper climbs. Been very happy with the set up. To reference Spinal Tap... Most people's gears only go to 10, mine go to 11.

    Also changed the chairing to an Absolute Black oval 28t, boost version. Very easy swap. No problems with shifting or chain line. No problem adjusting from round to oval. Feel like it's improved my climbing as well as traction with climbing.

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    Time for a strip of grip tape in lieu of the inner tube chain stay protection... Clear works well since it takes on the color of the frame.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BansheeRune View Post
    Time for a strip of grip tape in lieu of the inner tube chain stay protection... Clear works well since it takes on the color of the frame.

    Ha ha! Yes, good catch, it's an inner tube. I like the idea of clear grip tape, I'll look into it. I know you have an eye for style, I've seen your bikes in this thread. Thanks for the suggestion.... Makin' the Sarge a purty boy

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    Keepin Sarge bytchen is job one!!

    Griptape tends to last the longest and look very thoughtfully done.


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    Here is one of my bikes with clear griptape on the chain stay. Just a clean durable and lasting method to doing protection on the cheap.
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    Stock 2016 Sergeant here. Just wondering if anyone has moved the sliders back to lengthen to wheelbase? Is that possible with the stock wheels and tires or will it mess up the chain? This is my first mountain bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tantrum007 View Post
    Stock 2016 Sergeant here. Just wondering if anyone has moved the sliders back to lengthen to wheelbase? Is that possible with the stock wheels and tires or will it mess up the chain? This is my first mountain bike.
    Very possible. Shouldn't mess anything up at all, just a longer wheelbase

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    Quote Originally Posted by BansheeRune View Post
    While I did look into 29+, I found that 27.5 is very nice in terms of keepin it playful while still having the rollover of tall wheels. I do run the 3.8's for the additional floatation although, they are in no way a replacement for real fat. (4.8)
    I use a 30x36-11 with no issues. 3.8 and flip the chainring and away ya go.
    Agree completely, have a 29+, and while it has awesome rollover, for me 27.5x3.8 is the best all round. Currently using Hodag 3.8's and really like the profile on the 50mm rims, more rounded than the stock Chronis and lots of clearance. Have about 80km with them on and they make the Sergeant my favourite bike by far. Am really digging those Crux's Shredmaster has as well!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tantrum007 View Post
    Stock 2016 Sergeant here. Just wondering if anyone has moved the sliders back to lengthen to wheelbase? Is that possible with the stock wheels and tires or will it mess up the chain? This is my first mountain bike.
    The only change will be front end load increase. Little less playful, perhaps.

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    Agree completely, have a 29+, and while it has awesome rollover, for me 27.5x3.8 is the best all round. Currently using Hodag 3.8's and really like the profile on the 50mm rims, more rounded than the stock Chronis and lots of clearance. Have about 80km with them on and they make the Sergeant my favourite bike by far. Am really digging those Crux's Shredmaster has as well!

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    Cheers!
    Those are lookin good! Maxi+ indeed. I've been thinkin bout tryin a pair of Hodags to see if they would fit... Good stuff.
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    Thanks sknyboy and banshee! Right now, from an armchair perspective, the Sargent is my top choice from a geometry and general use perspective. That said, I wish there was more frame bag space and having killed a couple aluminum frames over the years, I am distrustful of the material (and I would go full custom from Walt rather than ti). Otherwise it is really appealing.

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    So I got the Sarge on last Friday, looks great, built it up and the last thing I did was put the chain on and run through the gears. Lo and behold the freehub spins both ways. Defective from factory. I emailed Alex Friday night and Saturday morning I heard back from him. He forwarded my message to Sun Ringle, evidently they had a few problems with them and I'm waiting to hear back from them. I was going to pull the freehub off and just see if the pawls are frozen and maybe free them up myself and I can't figure out how to get it apart. different than I've done in the past. On a side note has anyone run 29+ on the Manitou fork that comes with the bike, looks like it might fit? Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by fotooutdoors View Post
    Thanks sknyboy and banshee! Right now, from an armchair perspective, the Sargent is my top choice from a geometry and general use perspective. That said, I wish there was more frame bag space and having killed a couple aluminum frames over the years, I am distrustful of the material (and I would go full custom from Walt rather than ti). Otherwise it is really appealing.
    I've changed my ways over the years. No longer am I riding with too much starch in my elbows and knees. Sarge will be plenty reliable although a Waltworks project is very attractive, indeed!

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    So I got the Sarge on last Friday, looks great, built it up and the last thing I did was put the chain on and run through the gears. Lo and behold the freehub spins both ways. Defective from factory. I emailed Alex Friday night and Saturday morning I heard back from him. He forwarded my message to Sun Ringle, evidently they had a few problems with them and I'm waiting to hear back from them. I was going to pull the freehub off and just see if the pawls are frozen and maybe free them up myself and I can't figure out how to get it apart. different than I've done in the past. On a side note has anyone run 29+ on the Manitou fork that comes with the bike, looks like it might fit? Thanks
    Don't think a 29+ will work in the 27.5 fork. Manitou offers an alternate part # for that.
    Alex will usually take very good care of warranty issues. Sorry to hear of the hub issue. Hope you get it sorted quickly.
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    What do you do on a family vacation while the kids sleep? Haul your fat ass dad bod up the abandoned ski slope and enjoy heading down. Honestly this is why I wouldn't mind a slacker head angle

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    I have not ridden since April (injury) but just wanted to give a shout out to Alex at RSD. My rear hub detonated back in April and damaged the freehub and hub shell. Alex had me hooked up with an entire new rear wheel within a week. Awesome customer service over at RSD and I even bought another RSD bike to ride while I recover because of it, a Catalyst 700+. Hopeful to get back on my Sergeant soon.

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    Bric, Alex takes good care of his clientele. How long ya gonna be down with the injury? Sounds like that is coming to a close for ya. Mend quickly!

    MinesPunk!! Love the pic of your bike taking the easy way up! Looks like a fun time. Valhalla's calling my bikes! Worth the ticket price for a few good runs.

    Triathloner, where's the customary ride report? Lookin forward to hearing of your adventures!

    Sarge now has a blue crankset and gave his original to the Wildcat. Now there are 2 b+ RSD's to play with. Both are very fun to ride and play with. Enjoying the hardtail with each ride. The wildcat is amazingly fun with a silky smooth suspension along with nice fat 3.0's to stick to the trail. Sarge
    is still on his tour of duty! Can't get enough of the rides these days. It's been hot lately so late evening and early morning rides are the thing as of
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    Quote Originally Posted by BansheeRune View Post
    Bric, Alex takes good care of his clientele. How long ya gonna be down with the injury? Sounds like that is coming to a close for ya. Mend quickly!
    Hopefully I'm well soon. Had a dislocated shoulder, three fractured vertebrae, and a hyperextended knee.

    I live less than two hours from RSD's office and have often thought that next time I pass through the area I should stop in and say thanks with a Timmies gift card.

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    Holy smokes!!! Sarge beat your ass like red headed stepchild! Praying that you mend up well so you can go out and play with Sarge sooner than later. That's way heavy for anyone to endure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BansheeRune View Post
    Holy smokes!!! Sarge beat your ass like red headed stepchild! Praying that you mend up well so you can go out and play with Sarge sooner than later. That's way heavy for anyone to endure.
    Hahaha. The accident was unrelated to the Sarge. Thanks for the positive vibes.

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    Well, I didn't give a ride report because it's kind of the same as my Norco Torrent. My wife really liked the torrent and wanted it to become her bike. I really almost just bought another torrent, but I really like the sliding drops of the Sarge, which puts this bike over the top. I really like the bike and have upgraded the pedals, grips, and hoping to upgrade the Chronicles as they are not my favorite tire. But the bike rips, I ride in pretty hilly area so I am going to upgrade the cassette to one with a little bigger tooth count for the hills. I was unsure of the Manitou fork as Ive never had one, but I really like it. I am planning on building another wheel set for some 3.8's for a little winter riding. Now I kind of want a wilcat too ;-)

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    Quick question for everyone...what dropper posts are you running on the Sarge? My Crank Brothers dropper from 2009 finally shit the sheets so now I need a replacement. Would prefer to stay with external routing and something affordable since I still need some other upgrades. Thanks for the help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MinesPunk View Post
    Quick question for everyone...what dropper posts are you running on the Sarge? My Crank Brothers dropper from 2009 finally shit the sheets so now I need a replacement. Would prefer to stay with external routing and something affordable since I still need some other upgrades. Thanks for the help.
    Unfortuantely, I'm on the fence when it comes to droppers. Need to find one with absolutely no play in it. I'll check in with a few peeps I ride with to see what they are using and what they think of em.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BansheeRune View Post
    Unfortuantely, I'm on the fence when it comes to droppers. Need to find one with absolutely no play in it. I'll check in with a few peeps I ride with to see what they are using and what they think of em.

    Hmm, I might have an old hite rite spring that is hella lighter...
    Appreciate it. Leaning towards a Fox Transfer. More concerned with bulletproof reliability than anything else

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    Appreciate it. Leaning towards a Fox Transfer. More concerned with bulletproof reliability than anything else

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    Slop free and reliable is job one when it comes to Sarge. Also thinking about weight to a lesser degree as well as how much I will use it. I generally have my seat down from the roadie position 99.99% of the time cause play is a full time requirement.
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    Recent mods and pics...

    A few recent pics. I liked the Enve downhill bars so much I adopted an Enve shorty stem. Next to go is the dropper post. I don't feel I need it anymore and an Enve post is only 210 grams.

    ..New fork is on the way from Blacksheep bikes. I don't feel the need for any suspension anymore now that I'm 29 mid-fat. I will take a pic after it arrives and after installation.

    Next in line will be custom wheelset...maybe next spring.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BansheeRune View Post
    Unfortuantely, I'm on the fence when it comes to droppers. Need to find one with absolutely no play in it. I'll check in with a few peeps I ride with to see what they are using and what they think of em.
    Check out 9point8.ca. I've been running their fall line and it's worlds better than every other post I've used (KS, Reverb, Thomson, etc.). Great customer service and you can even fine tune your drop height.

    Looking for a large Sergeant if anyone knows of one that needs a good home... seems like it's either AL or ti on the website. Any stainless steel rigs out there?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skrool View Post
    ...I liked the Enve downhill bars so much I adopted an Enve shorty stem. Next to go is the dropper post. I don't feel I need it anymore and an Enve post is only 210 grams.

    ..New fork is on the way from Blacksheep bikes. I don't feel the need for any suspension anymore now that I'm 29 mid-fat. I will take a pic after it arrives and after installation.
    I think I saw your fork when I was at Blacksheep's shop the other day picking up some bars. James is a stand-up guy and I was really impressed with the work he was doing in there.

    I'm honestly more surprised that you are considering dropping the dropper than I am that you'd switching to a rigid truss fork. After riding with a dropper for a while now, I keep wishing I had it on every one of my other bikes, including my commuter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phidauex View Post
    I think I saw your fork when I was at Blacksheep's shop the other day picking up some bars. James is a stand-up guy and I was really impressed with the work he was doing in there.

    I'm honestly more surprised that you are considering dropping the dropper than I am that you'd switching to a rigid truss fork. After riding with a dropper for a while now, I keep wishing I had it on every one of my other bikes, including my commuter.

    Hey Brother! That's cool you saw my fork at James shop! ...I'm jazzed for it to get here, been waiting for almost 2 months but it's done now. It would have been done sooner but I had to have James hold off on the specs so that I could finalize the numbers. ...I told James I'll be coming out there to seem him at his shop before I have him get started on a custom frame for me, but for now, the new Faith fork is going to be super sweet on the Sergeant!

    Regarding the dropper : I really don't find that I need it very much. The way I ride the 29plus is very different than the way I ride any other bike. The increased roll-over of the 29plus setup grants so much stability up front that I don't seem to have to worry much about tucking my ass down as low as I seem to have to do on my other bikes. ...Sure I could use it more, like I used to when I first got it, but lately I just seem to enjoy riding the bike without having to touch anything. If I could actually get away with it, I try single speed setup, but I just know that it wouldn't end up being adequate for the trails and distance I tend to ride. Sooo----off it comes me thinks. Another pound of savings added to the 2.7 pound savings from the Faith fork.

    I usually run 8 psi front and rear now on the trail, which grants me the exact amount of 'cush' that I desire, but with no more of the 'slop' and 'flex' of suspension. ...The 29plus has become the dream ride I have always wanted. ...No more bullshit with suspension maintenance and no more squirrely flex. All gone. ...The Sergeant geometry is incredibly matched to my exact body and style of riding. Truly, a great design and very good looking.

    I find that the light wieght of my current setup makes a great deal of difference in how quickly I can ride uphill on technical singletrack...which is my favorite type of riding.

    Next in line will be a quiet rear hub. ...I'm sick of the noise of today's hubs. Onyx now makes an alloy rear freehub-body that drops 80 grams from their othewise unacceptably heavy sprag clutch [silent] rear hubs, so I may go with an Onyx hub. ...Otherwise, I'll have to try to find something else that is quiet. ..Everyone always seems to be adamant on 'points of engagement', but for me, even my older shimano hubs from 20 years ago [which are nearly silent] seem to have ample engagement to suit my [actual] needs on the trail...and they roll noticeably better than any of the wheels I have with high-points-of-engagement.

    If anyone has any input [from direct experience] on quiet boost hubs, by all means let me know. Much appreciated.

    Faith fork from Blacksheep should be here today!

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    Onyx hubs on order. Performance is job one. Weight is not changing with the wheel build coming to the Wildcat.
    Sarge a Wildcat and a Mayor... Doesn't get better than that...Cause 3 RSD's are better than one!!
    Back in the 90's there was a silent hub on the market. I'll look into it and see if they are still in mint.

    On fatbike dot com there is a review of the Sergeant. On the climbing comments, I wholly disagree. After riding Sarge for more than a year and finding that climbs are simply amazing I think the test pilot is outta shape or inexperienced with off-road riding.

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    Hi...itís been a while, still rocking the Sarge, did a couple of upgrades, firstly I had installed my purple Hope V4's, went for one ride and decided that I didn't need that much brake on the Sarge so the bb7s went back on and I sold the Hopes. Used the funds to upgrade the pedals to Oneup aluminum flats, install an oval 34 tooth Oneup ring and got a set of Deity blacklabel bars with grips. The green parts went back onto the Mayor they were borrowed from and the new parts are grey, which I think looks quite sharp on the Sarge... a couple of pics...RSD Sergeant thread (Pix are appreciated)-p4pb15107535.jpg
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    Quote Originally Posted by BansheeRune View Post
    Onyx hubs on order. Performance is job one. Weight is not changing with the wheel build coming to the Wildcat.
    Sarge a Wildcat and a Mayor... Doesn't get better than that...Cause 3 RSD's are better than one!!
    Back in the 90's there was a silent hub on the market. I'll look into it and see if they are still in mint.

    On fatbike dot com there is a review of the Sergeant. On the climbing comments, I wholly disagree. After riding Sarge for more than a year and finding that climbs are simply amazing I think the test pilot is outta shape or inexperienced with off-road riding.

    Good to see a post or 3 from ya Skrool...

    Might end up going with the silent Onyx. ...Just wish the hub wasn't literally over 1/2 a pound heavier than any other decent hub out there. From what I've heard though, they're bomb-proof and super fast rolling. With the XD alloy freehub body option you save about 45 grams, which brings it down a bit. Weight it weight and my favorite part of the ride is the climb...so it's a matter of utility and function for me. Half pound here, 1/4 pound there....it all adds up...and quick.

    Read the Article you pointed out Brother, thanks : Great write up, minus the inaccurate comment on its climbing prowess.

    Good to see so many people riding the Sergeant!

    Mine is 'thee' most capable, fun bike I've ever owned.

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    Skrool, the Wildcat's knocking on Sarge's door! For the times when full squish is desirable, the Cat's awesome. Essentially, a full squish Sarge.
    Sarge has his bitchen wheels and now for the Cat to get his bitchen wheels...

    Sarge has had a wonderful trip to Arizona back in January. The trail system right out the front door of Mom n Pop's place is a +bike habitat of epic proportion.
    Sarge and the Mayor had daily rides that were just awesome to experience.

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    Sarge has since had his brakes upgraded to Hope E3's in "New Black" (read orange)

    Hey, how's that van project coming along?
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    Running a 36-11 Sram XG1099 with a short cage X2 rear derailleur has been very nice to keep Sarge's junk outta the dirt and debris. Range of gears is spot on with living in the high country.
    Hope E3's are amazing since braking is effortless and as I always say, if the brakes don't throw ya through the windshield, they don't work. The X2 Race brakes are now on the Wildcat and perform very well with 180mm rotors on both ends.
    Brake performance was improved significantly after taking all three of the RSD's into surgery to face the brake bosses. Best tool investment ever.
    The other aspect is truing rotors to eliminate runout and permit the brakes to properly self adjust. No mushy lever and positive feel at any speed as well as on the backcountry speed runs.
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    My headset keeps coming loose, so was tightening it up a little before each ride till I had the thought it might be the star-nut working its way out. After taking the top-cap off, sure enough it was almost to the top.
    Easy enough to tap back in but should I be looking at a better solution to this problem.
    Has anyone else had a problem with this star-nut.

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    Stem isn't tight enough on the steer.
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    I had same problem. Torque was spot on with the stem bolts. It ended up being that the steerer was cut a couple mm too long. Ground off a few mm and it has stayed put ever since.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Windigo View Post
    My headset keeps coming loose, so was tightening it up a little before each ride till I had the thought it might be the star-nut working its way out. After taking the top-cap off, sure enough it was almost to the top.
    Easy enough to tap back in but should I be looking at a better solution to this problem.
    Has anyone else had a problem with this star-nut.
    Pretty sure I have the same thing going on. Medical issues have kept me off the bike for 9 weeks but I think my slipped disc is finally stable enough to get back on Sarge. Will check the star nut tonight

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    New Faith Fork......

    Well here it is all mounted up. Fantastic riding fork. Exceptional build quality. Got two long rides on it thus far, and seem to favor 7psi front and rear with this fork. No more brake-induced flex up front. Bike is like a scalpel. Dropped two pounds as well.

    I guestimated the specs for the geometry based on my own style of riding and it seems I nailed it for my needs....got lucky I guess. Alex was helpful in helping me to decide on the specs. Fork build specs : 510mm axle to crown / 52mm offset.


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    Will take better pics next time I'm out in the mountains...

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    Skrool, lookin good! glad the fork is everything you hoped it would be.

    In the next couple weeks a pair of hand built wheels are coming to the Wildcat. Onyx hubs on order along with a fresh pair of Scraper rims to be prepped and mirror polished for that ever so fun hotrod appearance. Can't wait to sit down and lace em up! Something I love is the puzzle like process of lacing wheels. Green hubs with silver spokes and green spoke nipples to go with the green mountain eater.
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    Starnut was no good, it was slipping even as I tightened the headset.
    Put a bigger spacer on-top and it came out with no effort. Bottom portion of the starnut was bent over on one side but strait on the other, so assume that was the problem.
    Going to look for a Fork expander\compression plug to replace it.

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    Skrool, look into Project 321, they have some slick silent hubs...

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    Hey RSD enthusiasts. I have been thinking about pulling the trigger on a new 2017 RSD Sergeant but I was hoping this group could help me with a few of my concerns. I love the spec of the 2017 but I am a bit concerned about the geometry the head angle is very slack for a hardtail at 66.5 degrees. Has anyone had issues with this when climbing. I have had some very slack bikes before and found that while they descend great, they tend to wallow on climbs with the front end wandering quite a bit. Is that true on the 2017 Sergeant?

    I was also wondering what the 2017 weighs? I'm thinking with dropper post set up tubeless. Does anyone have any numbers?

    Just wondering before I make the jump in to Sergeant-land.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpecialK View Post
    Hey RSD enthusiasts. I have been thinking about pulling the trigger on a new 2017 RSD Sergeant but I was hoping this group could help me with a few of my concerns. I love the spec of the 2017 but I am a bit concerned about the geometry the head angle is very slack for a hardtail at 66.5 degrees. Has anyone had issues with this when climbing. I have had some very slack bikes before and found that while they descend great, they tend to wallow on climbs with the front end wandering quite a bit. Is that true on the 2017 Sergeant?

    I was also wondering what the 2017 weighs? I'm thinking with dropper post set up tubeless. Does anyone have any numbers?

    Just wondering before I make the jump in to Sergeant-land.
    I have a 2016 with the steeper head tube. Given that it is a hard tail I would rather have the slacker head angle. If it's 66 degrees before you sit on it it will be roughly 68 degrees when it is compressed with your weight by 20% travel

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpecialK View Post
    Hey RSD enthusiasts. I have been thinking about pulling the trigger on a new 2017 RSD Sergeant but I was hoping this group could help me with a few of my concerns. I love the spec of the 2017 but I am a bit concerned about the geometry the head angle is very slack for a hardtail at 66.5 degrees. Has anyone had issues with this when climbing. I have had some very slack bikes before and found that while they descend great, they tend to wallow on climbs with the front end wandering quite a bit. Is that true on the 2017 Sergeant?

    I was also wondering what the 2017 weighs? I'm thinking with dropper post set up tubeless. Does anyone have any numbers?

    Just wondering before I make the jump in to Sergeant-land.
    I'll say it like I always do... Sarge climbs like he's on level ground. Ascents feel far less daunting than any other bike I've tried in the
    + arena. Now that I have a Wildcat as well, Sarge still gets out just as much cause the HT is just as fun to play with as the full squish.
    I have no regrets on either of em.

    There was a review on fat-bike dot com that was way off the mark in terms of the Sergeant's ability to ascend with authority. I also find this skinny tire bikes are in the way on the majority of my rides. The fatness of 3.0's makes everything awesome cause the tires feel so damn good. The geometry of the frame is more than just another commuter with oversized tires. It's an outright excellent performer that I can piss off roadies with or hit the dirt and raise hell with. The only improvement to Sarge would be a fully custom frame that I do the CAD drawing of and hand off to John Hargedon for fabrication, period.

    Send Alex a message and he'll take very good care of ya. Warranty is excellent with RSD. So relax, make it happen and in a few days FedUp will bring a box with a bike stuffed inside! Shipping is included in the purchase price. No surprise additional fees... Doesn't get better than that now, does it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MinesPunk View Post
    I have a 2016 with the steeper head tube. Given that it is a hard tail I would rather have the slacker head angle. If it's 66 degrees before you sit on it it will be roughly 68 degrees when it is compressed with your weight by 20% travel

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    Good point on slack angle of a hardtail. I've been looking around and a number of hardtail dare going as slack as 65 degrees. Wow

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    Anyone have a weight on their 2017 Sergeant? Just curious more than anything.

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    Mine was just a hair over 29lbs. A little less after I went tubeless but I didn't weigh it after that. Love the bike, spent 3 hours on it yesterday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by triathloner View Post
    Mine was just a hair over 29lbs. A little less after I went tubeless but I didn't weigh it after that. Love the bike, spent 3 hours on it yesterday.
    Sarge had the opportunity to go to Jenny Craig and lose a bit of weight. He's 27 #'s and as fun as it gets.
    When I ordered the Wildcat, Alex said Sarge might not get out much. That has not been the case. Sarge is too fun to pass up.
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    My rigid Sergeant build is a trail slayer

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    The sergeant is that way. Rigid, squish in the front as long as the axle/crown length is right, they keek arse!
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    Anyone put 29ers on this? Thoughts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fuzzy Dunlop01 View Post
    Anyone put 29ers on this? Thoughts?

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    Diff geo on that tho , right? I just keep denting my rear rim w the B+ run at mid pressure

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    Very slight difference in geo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sknyboy View Post
    Currently using Hodag 3.8's and really like the profile on the 50mm rims, more rounded than the stock Chronis and lots of clearance.

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    Any chance of pics of the fork clearance with the Hodag on 50?
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    I would be more worried about rubbing in the rear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Windigo View Post
    I would be more worried about rubbing in the rear.
    I don't, since it works very well. The Maxxis FBF/FBR are narrow compared to most others. The Hodag is a good fit as well.
    Sarge has excellent clearance for such endeavors as running 3.8's.
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    So post a picture of your bike with 3.8's

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    Show me yours!! lol

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    Here is a shot of the FBF in the front end. As you can see, there is loads of clearance and just as much in the rear.
    If I let all the air out of em, they might flop about enough to rub.
    Yes, the slider dropout is slammed all the way back.

    Rail trails with 8r, 6f and they are awesome.

    Now I wanna get a pair of Hodags to give a go and see which I like better. I've ridden em on 80's and think they might be amazing on 50's.
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    I said the rear of the bike, I have already stated on this forum that it fits well in the fork.

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    The rear is the same as the fork in terms of clearance. (within 2mm) I cannot find the image of the rear so the next time I do the marathon tire change over I'll take another pic. Tubeless is a pita for tire changes, indeed. Might simplify by going back to 26x2.7 SL tubes to make tire changes a 5 minute ordeal instead of a production.

    My pair of FBF's are pre production demo tires with a plain wrap label. Had the opportunity to ride em last summer and through winter.
    They work purdy well at low pressure in the snow but are in no way a replacement for the Mayor's 4.8's.
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    3.8's rubbed the paint off down to the aluminum on my chainstays so I would not recommend having them on for long, or you will start cutting into the aluminum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nitrousjunky View Post
    Any chance of pics of the fork clearance with the Hodag on 50?
    Hi nitrous,

    No pics right now as I have the Maxis' back on for the dry conditions. Hodags clear front and rear no problem, just run the rear sliders back. Might be an issue if you are going single speed and need to move the rear wheel forward to adjust the chain. Love the 3.8's when the trails tack up. Only problem I found was getting a pair at a decent price in Canada.

    Cheers.

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    Anyone running a dropper on the 2016 Size Large? Not sure if I should go 125mm or 150mm. Traveling this week and away from the bike, shop near my hotel is doing a one day sale and offering Fox Transfer for $225. Recommendations are appreciated

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    Anyone have their Sarge set up single speed?

    I really like the possibility of some Bfat tires for winter time here in the PNW and perhaps some 29s set up SS for summer.
    My other bike is a bike

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    I know there are a few peeps that have done the SS thing with their Sergeant. Where I live and ride is mountainous and I'm liking the gears to keep on pedaling.

    With the slider dropouts, SS is very viable.

    And BfAt, can't beat it. I'm not subscribed to the 2.6 movement cause I bought a +bike and wanna keep it + with 3.0's.
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    Mine is B+ and single. Think this pic is 2.8 Rangers bit ive since switched to an ikon/rekon setup.

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    Fuzzy, that Sergeant is looking good!
    I've considered SS on mine but am reserved cause everything is an incline here.


    In other news...
    I bought a pair of 45Nrth Wrathchild 3.0's thinking they would be a very nice tire with the ability to be studded for winter. The stud pockets are very nice and there are loads of em. The tire is reasonably light and rolls exceptionally well. Tread compound is sticky enough to offer nice traction.
    The end result of size and volume... I'd class em as somewhere between 2.6 and 2.8. This has me wondering if they were made by Maxxis for 45Nrth!.
    Are they a good tire, yes, indeed. Ride quality is good. They do require 2-3 psi more than my Schwalbe's. They did feel a lil soft at 12 psi but performed very well and didn't feel slow or sluggish. They just roll along nicely.


    I do have great appreciation for the fatness of my Schwalbe Rocket Ron and Nobby Nic 3.0 tires. The volume of a 3.0 is awesome and the reason I went + in the first place.
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    Anyone riding a 2017 XXL? I'm 6'1.5" with the 2017 XL, and I think it might be a little on the short side for me. My saddle is all the way back on the rails. I have a 50mm stem, and I've ordered a 60mm to see if that helps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BansheeRune View Post
    Fuzzy, that Sergeant is looking good!
    I've considered SS on mine but am reserved cause everything is an incline here.


    In other news...
    I bought a pair of 45Nrth Wrathchild 3.0's thinking they would be a very nice tire with the ability to be studded for winter. The stud pockets are very nice and there are loads of em. The tire is reasonably light and rolls exceptionally well. Tread compound is sticky enough to offer nice traction.
    The end result of size and volume... I'd class em as somewhere between 2.6 and 2.8. This has me wondering if they were made by Maxxis for 45Nrth!.
    Are they a good tire, yes, indeed. Ride quality is good. They do require 2-3 psi more than my Schwalbe's. They did feel a lil soft at 12 psi but performed very well and didn't feel slow or sluggish. They just roll along nicely.


    I do have great appreciation for the fatness of my Schwalbe Rocket Ron and Nobby Nic 3.0 tires. The volume of a 3.0 is awesome and the reason I went + in the first place.
    I average 13 miles and 2k ft of vertical per ride. The SS works great for that. If i was in the 3-4k range and 20+ id probably want the gears.

    Here in LA most of the climbs are long fire roads or double track, nothing too technical on the way up. Rarely will you find 2way traffic in the santa monicas as the fun downhills are unrideable in the opposite direction. Grind up fly down loops mostly.

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    And thanks! The bike ****in rocks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by K3N View Post
    Anyone have their Sarge set up single speed?

    I really like the possibility of some Bfat tires for winter time here in the PNW and perhaps some 29s set up SS for summer.

    Using a 17t rear cog with the stock tires, works great for the trails here!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guyechka View Post
    Anyone riding a 2017 XXL? I'm 6'1.5" with the 2017 XL, and I think it might be a little on the short side for me. My saddle is all the way back on the rails. I have a 50mm stem, and I've ordered a 60mm to see if that helps.
    You must have a real long torso. I'm the same height and ride a 2016 L Sergeant. If you arms are the issue get the longer stem and go for the widest bars you can tolerate

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    I have a 33" pants inseam, so I do have a longish torso. The thing is, I've been riding an XL Niner Ros 9 for the last couple of seasons. Niner says the XL is for people 6'3" and taller. I'm perfectly comfortable on it. I keep taking measurements to compare the two, and it seems like they are close, but I still feel like I'm hovering over the front end. I use an 800mm handlebar with a 50mm stem now, but I'm going to try a 60mm stem. Any longer, and I think I really ought to be looking at switching to the XXL frame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MinesPunk View Post
    You must have a real long torso. I'm the same height and ride a 2016 L Sergeant. If you arms are the issue get the longer stem and go for the widest bars you can tolerate

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guyechka View Post
    I have a 33" pants inseam, so I do have a longish torso. The thing is, I've been riding an XL Niner Ros 9 for the last couple of seasons. Niner says the XL is for people 6'3" and taller. I'm perfectly comfortable on it. I keep taking measurements to compare the two, and it seems like they are close, but I still feel like I'm hovering over the front end. I use an 800mm handlebar with a 50mm stem now, but I'm going to try a 60mm stem. Any longer, and I think I really ought to be looking at switching to the XXL frame.
    Wow, you and I have very similar sizes, my inseam is 34.5" so not significantly longer than yours. I guess we all just feel different levels of comfort. I also have a very stiff body and back so too much stretch for me is very painful, probably why I'm comfortable on the L size

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    Quote Originally Posted by MinesPunk View Post
    Wow, you and I have very similar sizes, my inseam is 34.5" so not significantly longer than yours. I guess we all just feel different levels of comfort. I also have a very stiff body and back so too much stretch for me is very painful, probably why I'm comfortable on the L size

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    And I've broken my back twice, so go figure! I did order over the phone and talked with Alex about it. He actually said that, since I like to be stretched out, he would recommend the XL. He was very nice, and I didn't have the heart to tell him it wasn't a question of L or XL but a question of XL or XXL. I'll give the new stem a shot. I'm really hoping they have a blow out of 2017 frames like they did with last year's frame. If they do, then I can experiment relatively cheaply.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fuzzy Dunlop01 View Post
    I average 13 miles and 2k ft of vertical per ride. The SS works great for that. If i was in the 3-4k range and 20+ id probably want the gears.

    Here in LA most of the climbs are long fire roads or double track, nothing too technical on the way up. Rarely will you find 2way traffic in the santa monicas as the fun downhills are unrideable in the opposite direction. Grind up fly down loops mostly.

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    Rocky Mountains here. 3-5k elevation gains are plentiful. I grew up out there in LA. Rode Reseda to the Sea several times a week. La Tuna Canyon was another epic make a turn to change it up place as well. Now that there's a Wildcat in the collective, Sarge is finding out that his job is every bit secure!

    When StokliBoy has the SS only party at the Castle (His property on a mountainside) Sarge will hafta surrender the gears for the day! Any excuse to party and ride bikes on private reserve singletrack is worth pissing Sarge off!

    Guyechka, I can pass a hooter across the room without leaving the recliner! I would love another custom frame involving the top tube/down tube for a large combined with an 18" seat tube and I call it a size "Marge".
    DO play with stem length to give a lil more stretch room...
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    Nice. This bike is excactly what I been lookin for. This thread has sold me on it! Too bad I gotta save a few more bucks before I get to join the club.

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    Quote Originally Posted by K3N View Post
    Nice. This bike is excactly what I been lookin for. This thread has sold me on it! Too bad I gotta save a few more bucks before I get to join the club.
    Hafta say, when you do get a sergeant between your legs, you're in for a very pleasant surprise at how well mannered they are on trails and just about everywhere. Climbing seems like it's far less daunting than with other bikes. Playful, can you say playful? Cause Sarge is very playful, indeed. Confidence inspiring in so many ways. And the price point is very good.
    When I had the opportunity to snatch Sarge, I wasn't quite ready to buy a bike but that week long test ride threw that right out the window.

    It was like the old public service announcements...
    "First hit's free" and "Wanna fly, kid, ya gotta buy, kid"

    Go figure! And Sarge is very good at shopping for bitchen bike stuff cause he knows I'ma sucker for a damn great bike!
    Unfortunately, he's informed the Wildcat on how to get bitchen bike parts too. :/ Wheel project on tap!
    Green Onyx hubs in hand, stainless spokes in hand, Scraper i45's in hand. Prep rims for mirror polish and lace em up! Yay!
    Wildcat's gonna look fvckin bitchen and ride even bettuh! Hmmm, silence while coasting is golden, or sampan like that.
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    Wondering what a 2017 Raw Alu Sarge weighs approximately?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chelboed View Post
    Wondering what a 2017 Raw Alu Sarge weighs approximately?
    The unit of measure for the differences is milligrams. Talk Ti and there is a viable difference.
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    The unit of measure for the differences is milligrams. Talk Ti and there is a viable difference.
    The difference between ?

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    Painted vs. raw aluminum frame weight.
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    I just wanted to know the total weight of an Alu Sarge. I don't care if it has paint or raw. I don't know why I specified raw. Probably because I like it so much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chelboed View Post
    I just wanted to know the total weight of an Alu Sarge. I don't care if it has paint or raw. I don't know why I specified raw. Probably because I like it so much.
    4 lbs 11 ounces for the medium according to the site, so a few more ounces for the L. However, I think you have the wrong idea about the raw frame. Those frames are not raw. They are clear coated.

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    Can anyone confirm that the stock hub on a sergeant uses a standard shimano driver? Thanks in advance!

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    SunRingle SRC hubs can be setup with a shimano style driver or XD.
    My hub is indeed a shimano style driver.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BansheeRune View Post
    Fuzzy, that Sergeant is looking good!
    I've considered SS on mine but am reserved cause everything is an incline here.


    In other news...
    I bought a pair of 45Nrth Wrathchild 3.0's thinking they would be a very nice tire with the ability to be studded for winter. The stud pockets are very nice and there are loads of em. The tire is reasonably light and rolls exceptionally well. Tread compound is sticky enough to offer nice traction.
    The end result of size and volume... I'd class em as somewhere between 2.6 and 2.8. This has me wondering if they were made by Maxxis for 45Nrth!.
    Are they a good tire, yes, indeed. Ride quality is good. They do require 2-3 psi more than my Schwalbe's. They did feel a lil soft at 12 psi but performed very well and didn't feel slow or sluggish. They just roll along nicely.


    I do have great appreciation for the fatness of my Schwalbe Rocket Ron and Nobby Nic 3.0 tires. The volume of a 3.0 is awesome and the reason I went + in the first place.
    I am totally on the same page with the Wrathchild, I have been eyeballing the preorder for the full studded version, it seems like a no brainer to run the mayor and sarge all winter, mayor in the deep stuff and sarge with studs on the icy days. do you have any pictures of the Sarge with the wrathchilds installed? clearance pictures too?

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    Trials, the clearance is overwhelming since the 3.0's are more like a 2.6/7.
    They are very undersized, unfortunately. Guess 45Nrth didn't get the memo that these are sposta be +tires.
    Perhaps it's so they can be fitted to non +bikes. For heavens sake, they need to bring em out in a real 3.0 and cut the BS.

    On the studded side, I'm on the fence with studding em although, I might go for it now that I scored a pair of snakeskinless Nobby Nic 3.0's offa eBay.
    They feel so much lighter and overall better than the snakeskin version.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BansheeRune View Post
    Trials, the clearance is overwhelming since the 3.0's are more like a 2.6/7.
    They are very undersized, unfortunately. Guess 45Nrth didn't get the memo that these are sposta be +tires.
    Perhaps it's so they can be fitted to non +bikes. For heavens sake, they need to bring em out in a real 3.0 and cut the BS.

    On the studded side, I'm on the fence with studding em although, I might go for it now that I scored a pair of snakeskinless Nobby Nic 3.0's offa eBay.
    They feel so much lighter and overall better than the snakeskin version.
    Thanks for the Info Banshee, although that's a bit of a let down on the actual width of the wrathchilds, I was thinking it would be nice to have a bit of float and studs to make the sarge into a winter trail shredder as the trails i ride regular end up pretty icy throughout the winter. There isn't really any other choice for studded b+ tires other than the cake eater but I am wary of putting out that kind of cash on a tire company I hadn't herd of before this year.

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    I can relate. Hodag 27.5x3.8's are promising as an alternative although I don't think I would stud em.
    If Schwalbe brings out a 3.0 winter tire it would be awesome. They do offer winter studded tires but they are narrow tires. :/
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    Anyone running these single speed yet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tantrum007 View Post
    Anyone running these single speed yet?
    Mine has never seen gears

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    Mine has never seen gears

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    Quote Originally Posted by tantrum007 View Post
    Is it your only bike? Or would that be madness?
    Its my only MTB. I have a fixie that i ride to gym occasionally

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    With slider dropouts, it's an excellent rig for SS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BansheeRune View Post
    With slider dropouts, it's an excellent rig for SS.
    I will add that I've not had any issue with the sliders moving. My El Mariachi swingers needed to be reset every 10 rides or so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fuzzy Dunlop01 View Post
    I will add that I've not had any issue with the sliders moving. My El Mariachi swingers needed to be reset every 10 rides or so.

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    Sarge FTW!! THe sliders do have adjuster bolts that assist with keeping adjustment set. They should be checked from time to time to make certain the jam nut is no loosening up.
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    Howdy y'all. Been reading and watching this forum for a while now, figured it was time to add my two cents. I picked up one of RSD's demo Sarge's a week or two ago. Still in the early stages of getting it set up, but I'm thrilled about the way it rides. First, some pictures.

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    You can't really tell, but it's snowing in this picture from Monday.

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    Shitty lighting and a nice view.

    Thoughts: it's not nearly as harsh as I thought it might be after looking at the beefy aluminum frame. Rides much more compliantly than it looks like it would, but when you put the power down there's no flex that I could feel. Not sure what that reviewer was on when he criticized its climbing ability- this thing flies uphill. The remarkable thing is how smooth it feels over chatter though, the ride is really nice.

    I blew the freehub body on my first ride- looks like it had a manufacturing defect. So I'm running a spare 29" wheel for now until the stock wheel is back in action (Sunringle is taking care of it). It's ok like this, but I really prefer the 27.5+. Hodags will be going on relatively soon since the snow has already started flying.

    Questions: How have folks found the Magnum Comp? I'm not getting full travel. I'm right around the 220 lb. mark with gear, and even after dropping the air pressure to 55 psi I'm still only getting about 65% travel. Sag is set at 30%. Ideas?

    Thanks to all for posting their experiences here and helping spread the word about this awesome bike!

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    Quote Originally Posted by goose8 View Post
    Howdy y'all. Been reading and watching this forum for a while now, figured it was time to add my two cents. I picked up one of RSD's demo Sarge's a week or two ago. Still in the early stages of getting it set up, but I'm thrilled about the way it rides. First, some pictures.

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    Shitty lighting and a nice view.

    Thoughts: it's not nearly as harsh as I thought it might be after looking at the beefy aluminum frame. Rides much more compliantly than it looks like it would, but when you put the power down there's no flex that I could feel. Not sure what that reviewer was on when he criticized its climbing ability- this thing flies uphill. The remarkable thing is how smooth it feels over chatter though, the ride is really nice.

    I blew the freehub body on my first ride- looks like it had a manufacturing defect. So I'm running a spare 29" wheel for now until the stock wheel is back in action (Sunringle is taking care of it). It's ok like this, but I really prefer the 27.5+. Hodags will be going on relatively soon since the snow has already started flying.

    Questions: How have folks found the Magnum Comp? I'm not getting full travel. I'm right around the 220 lb. mark with gear, and even after dropping the air pressure to 55 psi I'm still only getting about 65% travel. Sag is set at 30%. Ideas?

    Thanks to all for posting their experiences here and helping spread the word about this awesome bike!
    I've got the same weight and fork ad you, I get full travel out of it. You may need to pull all the air out, mess with the dials and start from scratch. Worked on am old fox fork I had. Good luck

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    Cool, I'll give that a shot. Thanks! What air pressure do you usually run?

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    I've got the same weight and fork ad you, I get full travel out of it. You may need to pull all the air out, mess with the dials and start from scratch. Worked on am old fox fork I had. Good luck

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    Goose, firstly, welcome to the Sarge brigade!

    On the fork, let all the air out, invert the bike and cycle the fork a couple times, air it up and give it a go.
    As for that reviewer, just a Betty Ford resident that didn't know which end the handlebars are on.

    The Mayor was caught doing the snow dance the other day. That accounts for the snow in the pic.
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    Thanks for the welcome BansheeRune! I just cycled the fork as you suggested. I'll see how it rides tomorrow. Also installed the hodags, which rub on the chain when I'm in the largest cog. I moved one of the smaller cogs inboard to address it- seems to be working for now. The wheel is reasonably true and the front chainring is already flipped so that the offset is away from the bb. I like the feel of this setup in my driveway, can't wait to try it out on the trails.

    I have a follow-up question, but it's actually about the wildcat, which some of you seem to have experience with. One of the reviews I read said that it doesn't handle tight singletrack well- does that sound accurate to you? The price is incredibly attractive... I'm on a Canfield Riot right now. Just unsure if the Wildcat would be a reasonable replacement- I ride tight NE singletrack with steep climbs and lots of rocks. I was looking at GG's The Smash, but it's way more expensive. I love that it's made stateside though. Lots to think about! Cheers!

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    On the fork, let all the air out, invert the bike and cycle the fork a couple times, air it up and give it a go.

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    Goose, there's a reason we call it the Rocky Mountains! I live the Wildcat for the handling and performance.
    I've seen reviews of both the Sergeant and Wildcat that are off base on so many levels that credibility is out the window.

    On the Cat! The suspension was a whole 5 minutes to tweak in. With the rear being 120mm and front being 150, I have no issue whatsoever with it.
    Tires being 3.0 is prolly a contribution to it with the high volume, low pressure taken into account. Tight singletrack is incredible. Getting trialsy with a full squish is a little more effort than a rigid, regardless of make and model but it's hella fun. The big fat tires with moderate pressures will hold onto an obstacle with amazing grip. Ya might see the front tire sponge out some from time to time but that is necessary for the massive holding power that a 3.0 has to offer. Sarge is a large and the Cat is a medium. Plenty flickable and still long enough to have the feel I find necessary for play time.

    Guerilla Gravity offers a very nice product, indeed. RSD is designed in Canadia and manufactured in Taiwan. This makes them affordable and the quality does not suffer in the least. Shipping is covered in the sale price with RSD, so no surprise price hike in the transaction. Less than a week to get an illegal alien shipped into the states from our neighbor to the north, eh!
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    Thanks again for another thorough reply! Very helpful. The hodags went on today, but I'm having some issues with rubbing on the chainstays when I make hard turns. Alex is helping me sort some things out, I'll report back soon.
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    Alex has been great for that.
    I too had minor interference with my 3.8's. I don't air em more than 10 psi cause they are velcro on dirt and have plenty of air to not rim out.
    I am a bean pole tho. 3.0's are usually 10f 12r and only occasionally up to 15 max.
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    Alex has been great for that.
    I too had minor interference with my 3.8's. I don't air em more than 10 psi cause they are velcro on dirt and have plenty of air to not rim out.
    I am a bean pole tho. 3.0's are usually 10f 12r and only occasionally up to 15 max.
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    Ok, that's interesting. Alex said the sergeant was designed around Maxxis 3.8's, which seem to be a little bit narrower than hodag 3.8's. Can anyone confirm this? I'm getting rubbing on both chainstays and also making contact with the chain (chainring is already flipped).

    I'm far from beanpole- probably the other end of the spectrum. I haven't dialed my pressures with the 3" tires yet, but I suspect somewhere around 14f and 16r.

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    Anyone here running an external Fox Transfer post with a Wolftooth ReMote? Can get the post to drop but the lever does not spring back and the post rises straight back up with no weight on it. 99% sure I'm being a total dumbass. Pics are how it is currently setup causing the issue. Thanks for the help

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    No idea about the dropper, but that stinks. Hope you get it sorted out.

    I got my tire issue sorted, or so it seems. Switched to a 3.8 minion DHR and the shop also tightened up my spokes considerably. Between those two things the wheel isn't rubbing any more, but the chain seems to be bouncing around quite a bit. Has anyone used a chainguide on their Sarge? I ordered a Gnarwolf guide based on Alex's recommendation, but it turns out that the ISCG tabs aren't right. They were supposed to be the ISCG 05 but they're actually the older version. Suggestions? I'll probably go with the trusty AMg unless others have a better idea.

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    MinesPunk, check the cable tension. It might be holding the valve open slightly, allowing the post to rise.

    Goose, I have no need for a chain guide. I have a type II RD that resolves the issue before it occurs. Try running the "B" bolt in to increase the spring tension of the RD. That is the lil screw on the back end of the RD pivot. On my 4X bike I have an E13 form many years ago. It has the "Nard guard" to protect the chainring and guide assembly from bottom outs on obstacles. E13 referred to these as a "Taco". Kinda kewl lexan plate that's 1/2" thick that hangs below the BB and such.

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    Good call about the B screw- I'll check that first thing. Can't believe I didn't think of that earlier. I thought it was odd to have that much noise with a hardtail and wondered how others were handling it! It is a clutched rear derailleur, btw.

    I've run the MRP AMg guide for years with great results. It's got the same sort of taco setup you described with your E13 along with an upper guide. Hoping to run a small enough chainring that it's not needed- maybe a 26t.

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    Goose, with a narrow/wide chainring and clutched RD there should be gobs of tension on the chain to negate the need for a guide. I have zero chainslap on any of my RSD's. Swing the cage forward to check the tension. It should be loads tighter than a traditional RD.
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    my 2016 came with a non clutch X9 on the rear, I swapped it out for the clutched version. I have about 1500km on the Sarge to date and I can only recal losing a chain once and at the time I was not riding the bike as it is intended to be ridden lol. I have a bit of chain slap on rocky/ rooty trails depending on what gear I am in but I am also running a longer chain to accomodate the wide range cassette I'm running.I have a little strip of velcro on the chainstay and it take away most of that chain slap sound.

    Other interesting news I just came across today is that Shcwalbe is making an ice spiker in 27.5 x2.6, I wonder how the width would stack up beside the wrathchild...

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    Trials, Sarge has been very good at not loosing his chain so far. Can't say I've observed any chainslap thus far. The "b" bolt is in 60% for the additional tension to keep chainslap at bay.

    When they grow a pair and make em in a 3.0 I'll hafta think bout it. The 45Nrth is a disappointment with it being far less than the labeled "3.0".
    I will say that the Wrathchild 3.0 is supple and rides nice however, needs to be 75mm at the least.
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    I have a set of studded wrathchilds on hold at the shop for me ....I'm not going to lie originally I was pretty excited that they were bringing out a 3 inch B+ studded tire so hearing about the actual dimentions is a big dissapointment. I almost killed myself yesterday riding the Chronicles in the snow and ice and for lack of any other real option I'm going to be running the wrathchilds on the sarge .. well its gotta be better than my first winter bike running 2.1 ice spikers!

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    Since I own a pair of the Wrathchild's, I'll be riding em, lest I'm going in real Rocky Mountain snow. There the Nobby Nic 3.0's will serve well with 8 psi.

    Gotta say, I can't possibly go all winter without playing with Sarge cause he's so much fun!

    I think the Wrathchild should be fine although, I really want 3.0 sized air volume cause Sarge is a +bike! Likely gonna order up a pair of Hodags and see how they do in snow at squishy pressure.

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    My thoughts exactly, the Sarge is too much fun to hang up for the winter, at this point it's hard to tell if the Mayor or the Sarge will get ridden the most this year, if theres fresh snow and I want to float its gotta be the Mayor and if theres ice it will be the studded Sarge...maybe some bigger shoes to get more float for the Mayor are in order...

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    Quote Originally Posted by MinesPunk View Post
    Anyone here running an external Fox Transfer post with a Wolftooth ReMote? Can get the post to drop but the lever does not spring back and the post rises straight back up with no weight on it. 99% sure I'm being a total dumbass. Pics are how it is currently setup causing the issue. Thanks for the help

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    Have you tried releasing the cable from the Wolftooth remote, just pulling the cable with some pliers and see if it returns. The pulley on the post houses the spring for cable return, if the cable doesnt return without the remote, then I would start at the pulley wheel or look at housing (maybe a kink or crush), also if your removed the pulley to reposition make sure it was installed correctly.

    If the cable does return, then there is something amiss with the remote.

    Hope this helps. Good luck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by trials4evr View Post
    My thoughts exactly, the Sarge is too much fun to hang up for the winter, at this point it's hard to tell if the Mayor or the Sarge will get ridden the most this year, if theres fresh snow and I want to float its gotta be the Mayor and if theres ice it will be the studded Sarge...maybe some bigger shoes to get more float for the Mayor are in order...

    Sarge has a couple pair of tires to wear at the moment. I think a pair of Hodag 3.8's might just work well for moderate conditions so he's in the game. The Mayor... The Mayor has a pair of Surly Bud/Lou that are awesome for snow and work very well with very low pressure. So far, they have held up to the test of many seasons of riding at 4 psi or less all winter. No issues with sidewall damage from wrinkle riding as much as they have.

    Getting Sarge into a pair of moderately fat tires for the winter is on my list of things to do this season. I do have a par of Maxxis FBF's in 3.8 that work kinda well in snow. Hanging Sarge up for the winter is outta the question, indeed! I enjoy the ride qualities too much for that. Perhaps the Nobby Nic 3.0's I scored offa eBay will work good for town rides in fresh snow. Then the 45Nrth 3.0's need a set of studs stuffed in the little pockets so I can play when there's ice present. Too bad they aren't a bit fatter tho.
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    From the ride home... RSD Sergeant thread (Pix are appreciated)-p4pb15332975.jpg things are icy...

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    Doh!!

    I do have the original pair of Chrony's that Sarge came with hangin round. Not fond of em at all. :/

    I see there are some fatbikes in your town doing the snow dance regularly.
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    Yup the mayor is sick of watching the sarge have all the fun I'm sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trials4evr View Post
    Yup the mayor is sick of watching the sarge have all the fun I'm sure.
    Fatass was out getting trialsy today, as a matter of fact! With three RSD's in the collective, there is lotsa fun to be had. With the addition of the Wildcat to my collection, Sarge is still gainfully employed as a hard tail fun factory. I love that bike far too much to not grab the lil fellow and go out and play with him!
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    Well I figured out at least half of the issue. Housing I was sent is for gears but the cable was for brakes. Picked up a new gear cable and put it in, works pretty well. The issue I still have is that if I push the lever farther than 50% down it sticks, I think this is more due to issues with the housing than the lever or post. I'm going to remove the housing tonight or tomorrow and really square up the ends. This should be a lesson to myself to not rush through these things in excitement of new toys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MinesPunk View Post
    Well I figured out at least half of the issue. Housing I was sent is for gears but the cable was for brakes. Picked up a new gear cable and put it in, works pretty well. The issue I still have is that if I push the lever farther than 50% down it sticks, I think this is more due to issues with the housing than the lever or post. I'm going to remove the housing tonight or tomorrow and really square up the ends. This should be a lesson to myself to not rush through these things in excitement of new toys.
    Square ends on the housing of any cable is paramount. From there, a call to the manufacturer might be in order to get your head wrapped around dialing it in.

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    I just ordered an alum. Sergeant and am getting real excited. I bought the raw colored version. Can anybody post a close photo of what it looks like and if anybody has any opinions I would love to hear them. Thanks

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    While I don't have the raw frame, I do have the blue one. All I can say is that you are in for a very pleasant surprise at what a fine ride the Sergeant offers! When it comes to adding all the trinkets, you have no limit on color choices. As you may have seen pix of my Sergeant, he's well appointed with loads of color cause color is bytchen! Polished out WTB Scraper i45's make for great contrast where black rims disappear in tires to go unseen. Guess a pair of Onza Canis 2.85's in tan wall would look bytchen on black rims tho'.

    Needless to say, you are gonna be out playing with a damn nice dirt racer very soon!

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    Got mine about 2 months ago, been singlespeed the whole time. I was tempted to snag the 2016 but the few hundred $ difference to upgrade to the 2017 made more sense to me. What a fun bike, climbs well, jumps well, scares the shit out of me on occasion!

    I've had some bad luck with components though...had to bleed the rear brake, the rear hub cone thing needed to be tightened a few times, blew a fork seal, and the direct mount chain ring was super loose after about 2 rides. None of those go against the bike being fun, just annoying little maintenance items that seemed to happen really quickly

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    Mike, welcome to the Sergeant Brigade!!

    I have a '16 that I bought in early '16. Has been a Godsend of a bike, indeed. There have been a few things that just had to change from stock.
    Of those was brakes and wheels. I just can't do blackout wheels. So, the workshop toils began with a pair of Scraper i45's that got polished out to a bitchen mirror polish, along with some orange hubs. Next on the list was the brakes. I changed em out for Hope Tech 3, E4's for that towing package power brake performance. Handlebar needed to be a bit more trialsy with ample up and back sweep at 800mm wide...

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    Curious, is there any difference in tire clearance between the V1 and the V2 in either aluminum or titanium?

    Also, has anyone heard from RSD on whether they'll give just a few more MM of room in the chainstays to fit a wider variety of 3.8's?

    Also, could someone do me a favor and post a picture of the underside of their rear chainstays from BB to axle? I'm interested in what's going on with the yoke and what not that allows such large tires without a special BB.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PHeller View Post
    Curious, is there any difference in tire clearance between the V1 and the V2 in either aluminum or titanium?

    Also, has anyone heard from RSD on whether they'll give just a few more MM of room in the chainstays to fit a wider variety of 3.8's?

    Also, could someone do me a favor and post a picture of the underside of their rear chainstays from BB to axle? I'm interested in what's going on with the yoke and what not that allows such large tires without a special BB.
    While I've been too lazy to take a pic of Sarge's under side, the space provided in the yoke, seat stay junction etc. has very good spacing. The shape of both areas makes a major difference, as does the sliding dropout arrangement.

    With the major difference of measurement of tire sizes by the various manufacturers, we will need access to the options for test fitting.

    Either way, I'm loving the flexibility Sarge has in tire choice.

    The one dimensional change between '16's and '17's is BB drop. 5 mm lower. Frankly, I would be ecstatic to have a BB drop of 25mm max.
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    The one dimensional change between '16's and '17's is BB drop. 5 mm lower. Frankly, I would be ecstatic to have a BB drop of 25mm max.
    Mmm, tasty b+ trialsy play time comes to mind!!
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    I'll throw in a few pictures (of dubious quality) in an attempt to help. Wheels are off so I can't get a great shot right now. Nothing terribly special, I think that they use that bridge to help increase stiffness and extend the chainstays to allow for the larger tires. Sanded the washers on the rear dropouts to gain 1.5mm additional clearance. It works well with the minion dbr 3.8 right now. I'd like a little bit more clearance, but it works for the time being. Hope this helps- ask more questions as they come up and I'll try to help.

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    Also, could someone do me a favor and post a picture of the underside of their rear chainstays from BB to axle? I'm interested in what's going on with the yoke and what not that allows such large tires without a special BB.
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    goose8, it's kinda funny how a bike can reduce us to a giggly 10 year old and make stress go away!

    Can't get enough of the RSD collection lately. Was out with Sarge today and likely the Wildcat tomorrow.

    Come to think of it, two +'s keep the negative at bay!


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    Got mine 2 weeks ago, what a fun bike. Have some studded cake eaters on the way. Hope they fit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BansheeRune View Post
    While I've been too lazy to take a pic of Sarge's under side, the space provided in the yoke, seat stay junction etc. has very good spacing. The shape of both areas makes a major difference, as does the sliding dropout arrangement.

    With the major difference of measurement of tire sizes by the various manufacturers, we will need access to the options for test fitting.

    Either way, I'm loving the flexibility Sarge has in tire choice.

    The one dimensional change between '16's and '17's is BB drop. 5 mm lower. Frankly, I would be ecstatic to have a BB drop of 25mm max.
    Mmm, tasty b+ trialsy play time comes to mind!!
    17 HTA was slacked out too.

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    Fuzzy, damn senility on that one!

    Between Sarge and the Wildcat, there's lotsa +bike riding goin on and all these stats are running together.

    Either way, RSD has it going on with their product line and prices.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BansheeRune View Post
    Fuzzy, damn senility on that one!

    Between Sarge and the Wildcat, there's lotsa +bike riding goin on and all these stats are running together.

    Either way, RSD has it going on with their product line and prices.
    I love my 16. But wondering how the 17, now "v2", rides.

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    We both have '16's!

    Frankly, I like the higher BB and the way that front end floats effortlessly all the while, being able to climb better than most others I've ridden is irreplaceable.
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    What size are the cake eaters? Rode today with a 3.8 front and a 2.8 rear. Love that combo so much!

    [QUOTE=kenais;13451543]Got mine 2 weeks ago, what a fun bike. Have some studded cake eaters on the way. Hope they fit.

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    They are 4.0 but measure the same or slightly smaller than the 3.8 Minions from what Iíve seen here. What fork are you running?

    [QUOTE=goose8;13452864]What size are the cake eaters? Rode today with a 3.8 front and a 2.8 rear. Love that combo so much!

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    Got mine 2 weeks ago, what a fun bike. Have some studded cake eaters on the way. Hope they fit.

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    I have a pair of Maxxis FBF's that work very well with the '16 frame and Manitou fork. They are awesome for the days where a full fat isn't quite necessary for the conditions. Can ride em really soft and get fairly nice float. Still waiting for snow to arrive tho'...
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    I'm running the Manitou Magnum comp. Great fork- upgraded to the dorado air spring system from the pro and it's even better-
    more tunable. That cake eater sounds like a great option- please do report back about the fit!

    [QUOTE=kenais;13452986]They are 4.0 but measure the same or slightly smaller than the 3.8 Minions from what Iíve seen here. What fork are you running?

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    I have the Pike, it has slightly less tire clearance than the Manitou I was told. The tires finally shipped, should have them by the weekend. Iíll post some pics when I get them mounted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kenais View Post
    I have the Pike, it has slightly less tire clearance than the Manitou I was told. The tires finally shipped, should have them by the weekend. Iíll post some pics when I get them mounted.

    Being that I have a pike and Manitou, I can say that the FBF 3.8 is a no go in the Pike. Loads of clearance in the Manitou.

    Very interested to learn of your tire fitment.

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    Being that I have a pike and Manitou, I can say that the FBF 3.8 is a no go in the Pike. Loads of clearance in the Manitou.

    Very interested to learn of your tire fitment.

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    Tires arrived today! I measured 3.6Ēish with a tape on the 50 duroc. They donít fit the Pike as expected, rub slightly with any side pressure. I have a Mag Pro on the way to take care of that.

    They do fit with room to spare out back with the sliders maxed. I flipped the chainring and the lower chain rubs on the tire a little, I need a fix for that. Any ideas?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kenais View Post
    Tires arrived today! I measured 3.6Ēish with a tape on the 50 duroc. They donít fit the Pike as expected, rub slightly with any side pressure. I have a Mag Pro on the way to take care of that.

    They do fit with room to spare out back with the sliders maxed. I flipped the chainring and the lower chain rubs on the tire a little, I need a fix for that. Any ideas?

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    Glad to hear they fit out back. I had a similar issue with an old full squish bike. Ended up grinding down a pedal washer then sticking it behind the free hub body to move the chain and gears out a few mm's. Still ride the bike like that today

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    Assuming you have a Race Face Cinch crank, you could change the spindle to a Boost version. It will give you an extra 4mm on each side
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    I'd like to get a new hardtail and like the idea of the Sergeant being able to take 3.8 tires so I can run it on snow. Thinking of using the Sergeant as plus trail bike in the summer and fatty in the winter. Is the Sergeant hit or miss when it comes to fitting 3.8s? Any brands that we know don't fit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dernbiebs View Post
    I'd like to get a new hardtail and like the idea of the Sergeant being able to take 3.8 tires so I can run it on snow. Thinking of using the Sergeant as plus trail bike in the summer and fatty in the winter. Is the Sergeant hit or miss when it comes to fitting 3.8s? Any brands that we know don't fit?
    Sarge loves his 3.8's! Since the fat makes some additional float, I use the 3.8's on some of my adventures in the summer. Many times, the Nobby Nic 3.0 snakeskinless tires with a little less pressure can make for some fine Jeepin too! The Lezyne Micro Floordrive pump makes the whole thing awesome cause a pressure adjustment can make a major change with either 3.0 or 3.8.
    Sliders are a blessing on the Sergeant on so many levels. Single speed, 3.8, 3.0 all can have their own setting with the slider dropouts.

    I find that the Sergeant is a hit for 3.8's. as for other makes and models, dunno bout the 3.8 treatment.
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    RSD hit the nail on the head- the wider spindle is the key. I also removed the 3rd smallest cog from my cassette and put it (and its spacer) inboard of the largest cog to shift the cassette outward as MinesPunk described. You have to adjust the limit screw, but it works well enough. I'm running 3.8's no problem on my sarge after these adjustment, though I should mention that I also sanded the washer to gain a little extra room in the back.

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    Just a quick update on the Wrathchild studded tires, Banshee was right about the size, definitely smaller than 3.0, in the snow these tires do not have float, when I first mounted them we actually had some snow on the ground so I got to try them out in some fat bike type conditions and while they were rideable in the snow they were nowhere near as fun to ride as a true fat bike, lots of dig, lots of grip but no float. After that mother nature decided to forget it was winter here and give us some unseasonably warm weather, ( up to +15c!) I am super happy I got the wrathchilds when I did because for the past month I have been riding daily on a mix of frozen dirt and ice. I have to say that the tires are confidence inspiring and I am clocking times on my favorite trails on the ice that are only about 10-15 seconds slower than I was riding in the summer! grip for days! so basically if you are looking for a fat bike replacement tire this is not it but if you are in need of an aggressive tire that you wonít have to hold back on for icy days the wrathchilds could be just the ticket, I have a picture compairing the width to the 3.0 chronicle and a couple of pictures of the conditions Iíve been riding in this past month ( Iím not complaining last year it was -30c with a foot and a half of snow in December) one other thing about the wrathchilds is they are about the loudest tires I have ever heard, they make the 4.8 minions on the mayor seem quiet!
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    Trials, good to hear from ya! Sarge just got a pair of Nobby Nic 3.0's without that awful snakeskin. They are the performance version which has a more traditional bead. Not that I give a rats about making em tubeless, cause I wanna be able to change tires as a non career thing.

    My Wrathchild tires are not studded as of yet, but may well be in the near future. If 45Nrth comes out with a "real" 3.0, I'll be really happy.
    The tread pattern does roll nicely for an aggressive tread. The tire does have a very nice feel and is nicely adjustable with air pressure.
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    Can a 2016 frame be run with 27.5x2.35 tires? Would the BB be too low?

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    Quote Originally Posted by boardjnky4 View Post
    Can a 2016 frame be run with 27.5x2.35 tires? Would the BB be too low?
    Eww...

    29, perhaps...

    Frankly, I bought a Sergeant cause I set out to own and ride a +bike so never considered narrow tires.
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    Hi y'all,
    Want to introduce myself as I'll likely have some things to share soon.
    Crusty washed-up 30 y/o ex-road, cross (and sometimes XC) racer from the East Coast here. Took a long sabbatical from riding, but wanting to get back into the sport with less (or no) competitive stuff and I figgered trail riding was where it's at.
    Just ordered an Al Sergeant last night, late night. Alex had shipping notification with a nice message out this am before I woke up. Great service.
    Before I clicked the order button, I was looking at several 27.5+ HT options including Marin Pine Mountain 2 (similar build, but $1000 more for a CrMo frame, what??? Also, would have to go through LBS most likely and I'm more a DIY outdoors dirtbag) and the Diamondback Mason Pro (could be had for a little less than the Sergeant with SRAM X1, Fox 34, cheesier non-drivetrain components) among a few others. The Sergeant definitely has the most soul of them, so it won.
    Not sure if the 150 mm travel in front will be overkill for the riding here in Chattanooga, TN and surrounding mountains, but guess I can always change out the airshaft at a later date. Looks based on geometry that the frame is built for 140mm, but I could be reading wrong. Would decreasing travel to say 130 mm in front de-slack the front end too much?
    Will likely keep most things bone stock (will likely be going tubeless, swapping to the old standby Flite saddle and got some Crank Bros Mallet on order -- new pedal system for me, whoop) until I put a few months of miles on the bike and will upgrade to more exotic stuff as stuff breaks, unless anyone has a ready list of cost effective high value upgrades to propose :-) . I have a decent bike slush fund, so open to all suggestions.
    Look forward to sharing with y'all.

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    I think you'll be stoked with the stock setup for the trails you're on. I love mine at 140 with a 3.8 front and 3.0 rear (I feel like that might be similar to a 150mm front fork with a 3.0 front tire) and I ride stuff that is similar to Chattanooga. Grew up in Sewanee and rode Raccoon Mountain a few years back- this would be a great rig for those trails. You might feel the bigger drops a bit more than you would on a dually, but it will be sweet on the singletrack. Enjoy!

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    Not sure if the 150 mm travel in front will be overkill for the riding here in Chattanooga, TN and surrounding mountains, but guess I can always change out the airshaft at a later date.

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    Anyone looking to upgrade their 2016 frame? I think the '16 geo might work a bit better for me, but RSD is out of the size XL.
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    Quote Originally Posted by minivanpride View Post
    Hi y'all,
    Want to introduce myself as I'll likely have some things to share soon.
    Crusty washed-up 30 y/o ex-road, cross (and sometimes XC) racer from the East Coast here. Took a long sabbatical from riding, but wanting to get back into the sport with less (or no) competitive stuff and I figgered trail riding was where it's at.
    Just ordered an Al Sergeant last night, late night. Alex had shipping notification with a nice message out this am before I woke up. Great service.
    Before I clicked the order button, I was looking at several 27.5+ HT options including Marin Pine Mountain 2 (similar build, but $1000 more for a CrMo frame, what??? Also, would have to go through LBS most likely and I'm more a DIY outdoors dirtbag) and the Diamondback Mason Pro (could be had for a little less than the Sergeant with SRAM X1, Fox 34, cheesier non-drivetrain components) among a few others. The Sergeant definitely has the most soul of them, so it won.
    Not sure if the 150 mm travel in front will be overkill for the riding here in Chattanooga, TN and surrounding mountains, but guess I can always change out the airshaft at a later date. Looks based on geometry that the frame is built for 140mm, but I could be reading wrong. Would decreasing travel to say 130 mm in front de-slack the front end too much?
    Will likely keep most things bone stock (will likely be going tubeless, swapping to the old standby Flite saddle and got some Crank Bros Mallet on order -- new pedal system for me, whoop) until I put a few months of miles on the bike and will upgrade to more exotic stuff as stuff breaks, unless anyone has a ready list of cost effective high value upgrades to propose :-) . I have a decent bike slush fund, so open to all suggestions.
    Look forward to sharing with y'all.
    Welcome to the Sergeant clan, Minivan!! You're gonna find that choice was well founded.
    With the '17, the 150 will be fine. The Manitou on my '16 is actually longer A/C than the 150 Pike on my Wildcat.
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    With the Magnum installed there are no clearance issues with the 3.8 Cake Eaters. With the rear tire fully seated there isnít a chain issue anymore either. They are fairly loose on the Durocs and will probably need some additional tape to seat on the rims, havenít got around to that yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kenais View Post
    With the Magnum installed there are no clearance issues with the 3.8 Cake Eaters. With the rear tire fully seated there isnít a chain issue anymore either. They are fairly loose on the Durocs and will probably need some additional tape to seat on the rims, havenít got around to that yet.
    Glad ya sorted the tire/chain rub. Amazingly, when a tire is not fully seated, how drastically it affects the tire's shape and fit.

    Sarge has the first gen WTB Scrapers. Tires fit extremely tight on em. Aisan (AKA the Wildcat) has second gen Scrapers that while tires fit tightly on em, they are not absurdly tight. Kinda funny how the various rims/tires fit
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    Here are my current conditions in Michigan. Sarge is the closest I can get to a fat bike until someone buys my Ti road bike. What does the peanut gallery recommend for tires in this kind of snow? It's about 5" deep right now and will get packed down once my dog takes my kids sledding

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    Minespunk, the options are the 3.8 Hodag from Bontrager, Cakeearter from Terrene, Maxxis FBF/FBR 3.8.
    I'm still riding my Nobby Nic Performance 3.0's which are working very well in what little snow we have. Dropped the pressure some to get a little squish in em and ride about 60% of the tread on tarmac. The lbs has some Hodags coming in soon for Sarge to try on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BansheeRune View Post
    Minespunk, the options are the 3.8 Hodag from Bontrager, Cakeearter from Terrene, Maxxis FBF/FBR 3.8.
    I'm still riding my Nobby Nic Performance 3.0's which are working very well in what little snow we have. Dropped the pressure some to get a little squish in em and ride about 60% of the tread on tarmac. The lbs has some Hodags coming in soon for Sarge to try on.
    Thanks for the heads up. Thinking about installing a boost spindle and Hodags front and rear. Wondering if that will let the Hodags fit or if I will also need to push the cassette outboard

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    Just flip the chainring if needed. For 3.8's the slider needs to go all the way back in its travel. Should not need to mess with the cassette.

    Frankly, I'm not too keen on my prototype Maxxis FBF's. They have EXO deadening in the sidewalls that makes em less than springy for gettin trialsy.
    I will be giving another tire option a close look in the future.
    I did manage to get my grubby mitts on 2 pair of Nobby Nic 3.0's with no snakeskin and they are awesome for my light ass and are great to get trialsy with. I gave my pair of snakeskin 3.0's to a friend that weighs in about 40#'s more than I. Thankfully, I got those off fleabay cheap!
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    Is there any way that RSD could shape the chainstays for even more clearance? Like...if we asked them nicely?

    I'm afraid that the 3.8 tires will be very rim/tire specific, and some will rub.
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    I have a pair of mulefut and a pair of custom Scraper wheels and have more than adequate clearance for 3.8ís.

    Maxxis runs well undersized and Hodag fits very well.

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    Nice, glad to hear it. I'll be interested to see which 3.8's DONT fit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PHeller View Post
    Nice, glad to hear it. I'll be interested to see which 3.8's DONT fit.
    I'm running the stock rims and discussing Vee Gems, Terrene Cake Eaters, Maxxis, and Trek Hodags in 27.5x3.8 with my buddy that owns a shop. Will update the community when I pick a set and install them

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    Quote Originally Posted by PHeller View Post
    Nice, glad to hear it. I'll be interested to see which 3.8's DONT fit.
    Stay tuned!! As more choices come available, I'll find something that needs to be tested...

    Quote Originally Posted by MinesPunk View Post
    I'm running the stock rims and discussing Vee Gems, Terrene Cake Eaters, Maxxis, and Trek Hodags in 27.5x3.8 with my buddy that owns a shop. Will update the community when I pick a set and install them

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    Thankya, Minespunk!
    Lookin forward to more options that work. We'll see what my lbs comes up with as well.

    I know that Sarge is gonna get fed up with all these tires and just wanna go out and play but it's fun stuff!
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    Sarge and the Duro Crux 3.25s pretty much slayed the local trails the past few days with the light snowfall and arctic temps we had here in NY. Trails had about an inch and half of fresh light snow on top of the fallen foliage from the late fall we had. I was debating between riding my Kona Wo with 4.8 Knards or Sarge with his 3.25 Duros. Letís just say Iím glad I went with Sarge and his oversized 3.25s as I didnít need all the float of the super supple 4.8 Knards. Sarge is much more agile and playful with his 140mm of front travel, +sized wheels/tires, and lighter weight. The Duros offered loads of float, grip, and bite where and when you need it in those conditions.

    Iíve been off the bike for months unfortunately due to life responsibilities and more injuries. Was good to get out and get some trail shedding in and Sarge didnít disappoint. Looks like we are in for an icy cold winter with frequent snowfalls in NY, and Iíve been eyeballing those Cake Eaters in 26Ē for the Wo so Iím very intrigued about being able to squeeze a set in Sarge. Will probably have questions on fit issues when I make the purchase.

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    One demerit for Shredmaster... :/

    Good on ya for gettin out there in those 3.25's! Were you riding em aired down or regular riding pressure?
    I keep thinking about a pair for my bike.

    Cakeeater should be fine on there in a 27.5x3.8. I read somewhere that a bloke is running em on a Norco Torrent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BansheeRune View Post
    Were you riding em aired down or regular riding pressure?
    Left the house with both tires at regular riding pressures ~12 psi, but wth the air temps in the single digits hovering just above zero degrees, the tires were noticably less firm when I arrived at the trail head and removed the bike from the rack. Maybe ~10+ psi, was too damn cold to bother checking, air temps were in the negatives with the windchill. Felt just right on the trails tho.

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    I've been considering switching to the FBF's, but the Nobby Nic's without snakeskin are doing well at the moment.

    9f 10r for snow (Where it's packed deep enough that there is no danger of rim damage) Being a 160# beanpole is luxurious, indeed!
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    Someone is selling a large sarge in the front range of CO - and for a ridiculous price... if only a medium that cash amount would be gone from my account...

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    Quote Originally Posted by kamper11 View Post
    Someone is selling a large sarge in the front range of CO - and for a ridiculous price... if only a medium that cash amount would be gone from my account...
    Curious how much they are listing it for. I've been thinking if selling my Large frame and picking up a Titanium Sarge frame

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    was on Denver CL... the V1 frame/full build.. $975 "barely ridden" If a Med - Id a bought it for the price

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    Just want to confirm what (I think) I've read here, that the Pike doesn't have clearance for most 3.8s, but the Magnum has plenty of clearance? Really want to pick up a Sergeant to run as a year round bike (snow and dirt) and am debating on the 2017 frame with the V1 build kit with the Magnum, or the V2 build kit with the Pike. Based on what I've read hear I'll have better success running 3.8s with the Magnum, am I correct?

    Couple side questions about the V1 build. Can the stock X9 run a cassette with a 42T cog? Are the Durocs on the V2 better than Mulefuts?

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