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    2017 Fezzari Cascade Peak Plus

    Anybody have some seat time on one of these. The build is great for the price but I am wondering about the ride and geometry.

    https://www.fezzari.com/plus-tire/cascade-peak

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    weak spec for a 3000$ bike from a Ferrari wanna be direct sales company, shit geometry. Look at YT to see how it's done right.

    No offense meant but if you cannot afford a 5000$ bike in the first place you cannot afford wasting 3000$ either

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    Steel Calf it doesn't sound like you have any seat time on one. That is really what I am looking for information on. By the way I did not know YT sells plus bikes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steel Calf View Post
    weak spec for a 3000$ bike from a Ferrari wanna be direct sales company, shit geometry. Look at YT to see how it's done right.

    No offense meant but if you cannot afford a 5000$ bike in the first place you cannot afford wasting 3000$ either
    That's a little harsh. Specs seem ok to me. In fact I had been considering this bike for quite a while too with same questions as sctrix1.

    "No offense meant..." Ya, I think you meant offense. $2000 is a lot of extra money to spend to keep bike snobs like you happy. WTHeck dude?!

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    Steel,

    I disagree on your "weak specs comment. Pretty much all XT drivetrain which I don't agree as being weak spec plus great shocks, decent rims and nice tires.
    YT definitely offers some nice bikes at a nice price but do they really offer a plus bike? Perhaps they can fit plus tires but then you probably need wider rims which would add to the cost.
    There are certainly geometry differences but not everyone loves the new geometry.
    Two of my friends bought the Fezzarri plus bike and they really like them. I probably wouldn't get a full suspension plus bike because that ain't my thing.
    I think if you are going to pan a product give some good reasons for doing so.
    My brain went from "you probably shouldn't say that" to WTF!

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    It seems OK to me. Whenever you have a company who tells you what the product "should" cost, and then what they will actually charge you, then you should understand that they are inflating the "Retail" price. Just think of this as a $3k bike, not a $4500 bike that you are getting for a steal at $3k.

    The groupset is fine, though SRAM's wider range 1x11s still have real advantages (going from 10-42 to 11-42 is a respectable difference, and SRAM's derailleurs handle out to 48t without modification). I like that it comes with nice cranks and a nice fork right out of the box.

    The frame is uninspiring - just another aluminum mountain bike frame like any other. For a modern frame it is steeper than I'd expect (68.5 head angle, rather than 67-67.5), and gets it's long wheelbase by pushing the rear wheel further back (447mm chainstays, vs a more common 430), rather than pushing the front wheel forward. Might make for a more familiar ride, but not what I've been looking for in frames.

    All told, probably a fine deal as long as the frame holds up, but the pricing isn't as amazing as it looks when you compare what people actually pay for new bikes (not MSRPs).

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    Fezarri must have been drunk when they specced a 11-42 cassette and no dropper post (probably to avoid later warranty claims), these cowards!

    And even the biggest looser company could get geometry right just by copying from everyone else - no excuses here!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steel Calf View Post
    Fezarri must have been drunk when they specced a 11-42 cassette and no dropper post (probably to avoid later warranty claims), these cowards!

    And even the biggest looser company could get geometry right just by copying from everyone else - no excuses here!
    Ooo, I missed the lack of a dropper - that is an odd omission for a trail bike these days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steel Calf View Post
    Fezarri must have been drunk when they specced a 11-42 cassette and no dropper post (probably to avoid later warranty claims), these cowards!

    And even the biggest looser company could get geometry right just by copying from everyone else - no excuses here!
    Did Fezzari piss in your Wheaties??
    I looked for YT's plus bike and couldn't find it. Do you have a link?

    As far as specs are concerned lots of bikes come with an 11-42 and no dropper posts. Add $200 to the price if you want an 11-46 and a dropper.
    And not everyone is a fan of the "modern geometry".
    My brain went from "you probably shouldn't say that" to WTF!

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    The YT Jeffsy comes with 28mm wheels, you can fit 2.6" tires

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    Saw a bike weight somewhere, The thing was a 33 pounder..

    I thought bikes in the $3,000 arena were all under 31 pounds.

    No dropper and a 1x should put a bike like that at less than 31 pounds I'd think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steel Calf View Post
    The YT Jeffsy comes with 28mm wheels, you can fit 2.6" tires
    Heard good things about the Jeffsy but it is not a plus bike.
    My brain went from "you probably shouldn't say that" to WTF!

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    Quote Originally Posted by phidauex View Post
    It seems OK to me. Whenever you have a company who tells you what the product "should" cost, and then what they will actually charge you, then you should understand that they are inflating the "Retail" price. Just think of this as a $3k bike, not a $4500 bike that you are getting for a steal at $3k.

    The groupset is fine, though SRAM's wider range 1x11s still have real advantages (going from 10-42 to 11-42 is a respectable difference, and SRAM's derailleurs handle out to 48t without modification). I like that it comes with nice cranks and a nice fork right out of the box.

    The frame is uninspiring - just another aluminum mountain bike frame like any other. For a modern frame it is steeper than I'd expect (68.5 head angle, rather than 67-67.5), and gets it's long wheelbase by pushing the rear wheel further back (447mm chainstays, vs a more common 430), rather than pushing the front wheel forward. Might make for a more familiar ride, but not what I've been looking for in frames.

    All told, probably a fine deal as long as the frame holds up, but the pricing isn't as amazing as it looks when you compare what people actually pay for new bikes (not MSRPs).
    Are 430mm stays really common for full suspension plus bikes? I thought 440-445 was pretty average. I could be mis remembering as I'm not in bike shopping mode

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    Quote Originally Posted by tfinator View Post
    Are 430mm stays really common for full suspension plus bikes?
    yes. However I personally prefer 440mm as it improves climbing performance for riders with a longer inseam. I'm also wearing a backpack quite often

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    Quote Originally Posted by phidauex View Post
    It seems OK to me. Whenever you have a company who tells you what the product "should" cost, and then what they will actually charge you, then you should understand that they are inflating the "Retail" price. Just think of this as a $3k bike, not a $4500 bike that you are getting for a steal at $3k.

    The groupset is fine, though SRAM's wider range 1x11s still have real advantages (going from 10-42 to 11-42 is a respectable difference, and SRAM's derailleurs handle out to 48t without modification). I like that it comes with nice cranks and a nice fork right out of the box.

    The frame is uninspiring - just another aluminum mountain bike frame like any other. For a modern frame it is steeper than I'd expect (68.5 head angle, rather than 67-67.5), and gets it's long wheelbase by pushing the rear wheel further back (447mm chainstays, vs a more common 430), rather than pushing the front wheel forward. Might make for a more familiar ride, but not what I've been looking for in frames.

    All told, probably a fine deal as long as the frame holds up, but the pricing isn't as amazing as it looks when you compare what people actually pay for new bikes (not MSRPs).
    The frame measurements you commented on are exactly why I've stopped considering this bike. This frame pretty much has similar geometry as my fat bike. I already have that, thank you.

    Thanks for your input. Makes me more comfortable in my decision to look elsewhere.

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    Just food for thought, I was really close to purchasing this bike but ended up going for a Santa Cruz Hightower S+. My reasoning was two fold. One I could not test ride the Fezzari and two for the $3900 I paid for the hightower from Cambria I thought the overall package with carbon frame was a better value. One other issue with the fezzari is the shorter travel rear end vs a more balance front to back of the hightower. Just something to consider. It seems like fezzari are a pretty good company and stand by there product from what I hear. All the reviews I could find were very positive.

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    They do offer a 30-day money back guarantee with free return shipping if you dont like it.

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    sctrix1,

    You didn't mention what type of riding you want to do.

    If you want to win cross country races, or go to lift serviced mountains and technical downhills, this is not your bike. It will do everything else in comfort though, and be fast through technical sections. Designed to climb well, descend well and have loads of traction. You will feel the extra weight on climbs, but it will make up for it elsewhere. You will not be able to jump well with long chainstays, but it will stick to everything like velcro. Its a single pivot design (faux-bar) so you would be best keeping a single chainring at the height of the pivot point, rather than a 2x.

    Although I havent ridden the Cascade, I just rented a Fuji Rakan 3.5 which is very similar to ride in CO, and loved it. Better suspension(modified horst and stiffer links), and a dropper post upgrade (very needed). I usually ride 26+ 100mm suspension bikes of higher quality builds which I am fastest on and the Rakan was a dream through technical XC and flow trails. I don't do jumps or drops anymore due to injuries and the like of getting to ride more. If i had to have one bike it would be a 27.5+ around 120mm rear and 140 front, so needless to say I am looking to update.

    Low priced alloy 27.5+ bikes that are similar - Fezzari Abajo Peak (great but heavy tires, cheap fork, same great rims, but over a grand less), Fuji Rakan 3.5 (Best value), Diamondback Catch 1 (great price, but needs a bottle mount for me).

    Of course if you are of the long, slack, low crowd, or looking to jump or for a mini downhill bike, save your money for something more toward your tastes and buy a used trail bike till you dial in your geometry wants and have the money to get there.

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    Anybody ridden the new 2018 yet?

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    I've purchased a 2018 Cascade Peak. I think its wonderful. Slightly higher bottom bracket then 2017 and a shorter chain stay. Im enjoying the hell out of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brandonsc View Post
    I've purchased a 2018 Cascade Peak. I think its wonderful. Slightly higher bottom bracket then 2017 and a shorter chain stay. Im enjoying the hell out of it.
    Have any pics?
    Did you happen to measure the bottom bracket yet? The reason I ask is because I read a review that stated the BB height was much lower than advertised.
    Thanks

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    Following........
    I had an Abajo peak 29er in 2015 (pre 27.5+) nice bike I liked it. I traded it off for a Cannondale Bad Habbit 2 also nice Bike and am now looking at a Santa Cruz Hightower 27.5+.
    Demo'ed one on my home trails and loved it.
    But am curious about the new the Fezzari's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rjcobra View Post
    Have any pics?
    Did you happen to measure the bottom bracket yet? The reason I ask is because I read a review that stated the BB height was much lower than advertised.
    Thanks
    I think the specs say 13.5", so I wouldn't say its "much lower." Obviously suspension and tire setup could cause a little variance. 2017 Fezzari Cascade Peak Plus-img_1849.jpg2017 Fezzari Cascade Peak Plus-img_1851.jpg2017 Fezzari Cascade Peak Plus-img_1850.jpg2017 Fezzari Cascade Peak Plus-img_1746.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by brandonsc View Post
    I think the specs say 13.5", so I wouldn't say its "much lower." Obviously suspension and tire setup could cause a little variance. Click image for larger version. 

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    Thanks. I think the article I read said it measured 324 mm
    https://www.singletracks.com/blog/mt...ve-trail-bike/

    Are you in Utah?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rjcobra View Post
    Thanks. I think the article I read said it measured 324 mm
    https://www.singletracks.com/blog/mt...ve-trail-bike/

    Are you in Utah?
    Anytime. It’s easily 324mm. Yes. I live in Southern Utah.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brandonsc View Post
    Anytime. It’s easily 324mm. Yes. I live in Southern Utah.
    I hope its not THAT low. lol
    Do you know if a 29 x 2.6 will fit in the rear triangle?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rjcobra View Post
    I hope its not THAT low. lol
    Do you know if a 29 x 2.6 will fit in the rear triangle?
    They utilize this same frame for their 29er Pro. I believe the max width for that setup is 2.5”

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    I gotta say the new Fezzari's geometry is spot on. Really want to hear some more impressions of these. Seems like they should be getting more attention then they are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by richulr View Post
    I gotta say the new Fezzari's geometry is spot on. Really want to hear some more impressions of these. Seems like they should be getting more attention then they are.
    yeah the only review I read suggested it had a really low BB height, much lower than what's in the specs

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    RJ, How are you liking the Cascade Peak? I've been looking at that and the Abajo Peak, both as 27.5+.
    My name is Chris and I ride a Ripmo now.

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    Love my Black Friday Cascade Peak out of the box , I have about hundred miles in the desert now no huge drops or massive climbs just hammer time across the desert sand and rocks ,short punchie climbs ,two foot drops and this bike rocks !i don't care about all of the bottom bracket heights and seat tube angles just lovin the ride!!! oh yea it's a 29'er

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    My pops just grabbed a 29” Abajo Peak,
    Just wanted to share some positive feedback about the bike itself and Fezzari.

    First of all, for $1,999 You really do maximize your dollar for a DANG good looking Taiwanese frame. It came with Ergon grips, and the “cheap” pedals he ordered are actually sick! They have Fezzari written on them, but they look uber similar to Fyxation Mesa pedals, They are nylon with steel pins.

    I personally think the geo on this bike is SPOT ON

    It came with 29 x 2.5 DHF/DHR tires, looks to me like 2.6 would be the max for the rear, I will report back later on max front tire for the front fork.

    The fit and finish of this bike is SO good, looks just like a Salsa frame, there’s also massive seat tube real estate for guys wanting maximum dropper travel.

    Fezzari was quick and easy to communicate with my father. They also under promised and over delivered. The bike was sitting on his doorstep on Christmas Eve.

    The bike was completely built by Hunter in Park City Utah, They basically build the bike/tune it, then disconnect the bars from the stem and stuff it in a box, This bike was trail ready in less than 5 min.

    I’m 100% impressed with everything Fezzari is doing, especially for budget minded enthusiasts.

    I will report back after trying to break this thing
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