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    No one running a chain keeper? Okay, what about a 2017 SID World Cup. I'm on the verge of ordering the boost compatible remote lockout version. Did it lighten your bike up? Does it perform better than prior years?

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    Quote Originally Posted by craigebaker View Post
    No one running a chain keeper? Okay, what about a 2017 SID World Cup. I'm on the verge of ordering the boost compatible remote lockout version. Did it lighten your bike up? Does it perform better than prior years?
    I may be incorrect, but I believe the 2017 SID WC only comes in 100mm flavor.

    Most people here are running 120mm or more. If you want a light 120mm fork, the DT Swiss OPM ODL Race is pretty much the only option.

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    Quote Originally Posted by craigebaker View Post
    No one running a chain keeper? Okay, what about a 2017 SID World Cup. I'm on the verge of ordering the boost compatible remote lockout version. Did it lighten your bike up? Does it perform better than prior years?
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    Def. running a chain keeper/guard combo even with narrow wide ring and clutch derail. Made mine and hacked up a MRP chain guard (like Hope's). I was having chain drop now and then. No issues now. I've been running a SID with brain installed (100mm) and love it. I did put offset shock bushings in the frame to increase bb height and steepen' the headtube. May not be the set up for everyone, but I happen to love it. I recently went with the Fox step cast and a +3 crown race and really seems to be about the same performance. Fox step cast weight was dead-on published weight.

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    Try a ring with longer teeth long Garbaruk. I have zero (0) chain drops, aside from a crash or two, in a year plus on this ring.

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    Here's my estimated build for a 2016 ASRc (let me know what I'm missing)

    Fork 2017 SID World Cup 1366
    Racing Ralph 29.2.25 EVO Lightskin 560
    thunderburt 29x2.25 Snakeskin, TL Easy 575
    organge seal 16oz (4 oz) 120
    Truvativ Seat Post t40 225
    Stem Stylo T40 Stem 115
    ENVE Carbon Fiber Mountain Sweep Bar 189
    MRP 1xV3 Guide 45
    Absolute Black Chain Ring (included in crank weight)
    XX Cassette 209
    X0 Type 2 Rear Derailleur 235
    Shifter XX Grip Shift 10sp (should be less with ESI grips) 287
    SRAM PF 30 for MTB 91
    ESI Chunky Grips Black Included in shifter weight
    Williams Aurora SLC Saddle 149
    XX1 cranks 546
    XX Brakes 540
    AM Classic wheels 1430
    Yeti ASRc Frame 1995.81
    Frog Pedals 255
    Headset 112
    Cables 70
    Chain 250
    Seat Clamp 35
    Total 9399.81 20.72303377 lbs

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    I would go wider/fatter on the front wheel. 2.25 on this bike is not enough for its capabilities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by craigebaker View Post
    Here's my estimated build for a 2016 ASRc (let me know what I'm missing)

    Fork 2017 SID World Cup 1366
    Racing Ralph 29.2.25 EVO Lightskin 560
    thunderburt 29x2.25 Snakeskin, TL Easy 575
    organge seal 16oz (4 oz) 120
    Truvativ Seat Post t40 225
    Stem Stylo T40 Stem 115
    ENVE Carbon Fiber Mountain Sweep Bar 189
    MRP 1xV3 Guide 45
    Absolute Black Chain Ring (included in crank weight)
    XX Cassette 209
    X0 Type 2 Rear Derailleur 235
    Shifter XX Grip Shift 10sp (should be less with ESI grips) 287
    SRAM PF 30 for MTB 91
    ESI Chunky Grips Black Included in shifter weight
    Williams Aurora SLC Saddle 149
    XX1 cranks 546
    XX Brakes 540
    AM Classic wheels 1430
    Yeti ASRc Frame 1995.81
    Frog Pedals 255
    Headset 112
    Cables 70
    Chain 250
    Seat Clamp 35
    Total 9399.81 20.72303377 lbs
    Looks like a XC rocket at <21 lbs. I found steering pretty quick with a 120 fork and would like to move up to a 130 just to slacken it a bit, but I'm using mine for trail and AM terrain. You might find at 100 the increased steepnes may be a bit more twitchy.

    Quote Originally Posted by swagner2 View Post
    I would go wider/fatter on the front wheel. 2.25 on this bike is not enough for its capabilities.
    For an XC rocket, maybe not too bad as is. I'm running 29/26 internal rims and I really like them, but also my terrain demands it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by swagner2 View Post
    I would go wider/fatter on the front wheel. 2.25 on this bike is not enough for its capabilities.
    I will reevaluate tires once the season starts. I'm more likely to go to the Aspen 2.25 though, but have considered the Bontrager 2.35 tires. I want a light 2.35 though, and there doesn't seem to be one available.

    I just adjusted the weight above because SRAM is advertising their SID weight without telling everyone it's actually the 27.5 weight. I added 120 grams and now come out right at 21 lbs. Will eventually swap pedals and maybe seat post to get 90 grams back and get it under 21 though.

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    I run a 140/130 pike - depending on terrain. Love it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swagner2 View Post
    I run a 140/130 pike - depending on terrain. Love it.
    I can't run that much fork to race our trails. I'd wash out in any flat corners. Been there, done that, hated it on any flat terrain. I'm sure it's great where you're from or for general trail riding though.

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    Get a 120mm fork, that 100mm is going to suck and make the BB crazy low.

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    Quote Originally Posted by briscoelab View Post
    Get a 120mm fork, that 100mm is going to suck and make the BB crazy low.
    I just spend a ton of money on 100mm. Isn't there an insert for the rear shock collet to raise the BB? I don't need the travel. This is a race bike for Indiana!

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    The new SID World Cups are limited to 100mm travel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by briscoelab View Post
    The new SID World Cups are limited to 100mm travel.
    I think all Sids are limited to 100mm now. There is really a hole in the market for lightweight, trail worthy 120mm fork. I'm running an rs-1 and love it, but I'm 60kg and bought it on sale.

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    The F34 is actually great. It's basically the same weight as an F32 120mm, way stiffer, and can have the travel set by the user all the way down to 110mm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dfishdesign View Post
    I think all Sids are limited to 100mm now. There is really a hole in the market for lightweight, trail worthy 120mm fork. I'm running an rs-1 and love it, but I'm 60kg and bought it on sale.

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    Yep. ~$1900 retail on that fork was waaaay too much for my budget, plus I would need new wheels for predictive steering.

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    The DT Swiss OPM ODL Race 120 is the only stiff-enough, light fork out there.

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    I don't think BB height is going to be an issue with 100mm. A friend of mine is running a Pivot 429SL with similar BB height and 100mm forks, no problems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Le Duke View Post
    The DT Swiss OPM ODL Race 120 is the only stiff-enough, light fork out there.

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    It's not a popular choice and not as light as the DT, but the Magura TS8 is very stiff and pretty light @ 3.65 lbs (and the brake mount is PM180, saving a little more weight for those who'd run the larger rotor anyway).

    The move to grease for the fork lube wasn't a super smart move on Magura's part, but it's easy to swap out to bath oil.
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    Quote Originally Posted by albeant View Post
    It's not a popular choice and not as light as the DT, but the Magura TS8 is very stiff and pretty light @ 3.7 lbs (and the brake mount is PM180, saving a little more weight for those who'd run the larger rotor anyway).

    The move to grease for the fork lube wasn't a super smart move on Magura's part, but it's easy to swap out to bath oil.
    I wonder if the grease changes the behavior of the fork dramatically when it gets really heated up on long descents.

    It would go from a semi-solid state to oil, I'd imagine. I wonder why they chose to do that?

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    Hard to know why, except for their notoriously weepy wipers, along, perhaps with a desire to save weight, since very little grease is used. I'm not sure the lowers ever heat up enough to change the consistency of the grease, but I am sure that the grease requires more frequent maintenance to maintain smoothness.

    My TS8 had gotten really gummy after a couple of weeks on the CT, so when I got home from that trip I installed Fox Gold-compatible wipers and Gold bath oil, and they made a dramatic difference in both smoothness and maintenance intervals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by craigebaker View Post
    I just spend a ton of money on 100mm. Isn't there an insert for the rear shock collet to raise the BB? I don't need the travel. This is a race bike for Indiana!
    search my post in this thread. I use offset bushing in front and rear eye of shock and run 100mm fox with Cane Creek +3 crown race. BB height is 12.87" with Schwalbe 2.1 tires. You have to be careful with the rear eyelet and make sure super tight and no grease on ends as it will tend to rotate and negate all that you had gained. I have about 70.5 degree on head tube angle. I went with the 51mm offset.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nyrdrms View Post
    search my post in this thread. I use offset bushing in front and rear eye of shock and run 100mm fox with Cane Creek +3 crown race. BB height is 12.87" with Schwalbe 2.1 tires. You have to be careful with the rear eyelet and make sure super tight and no grease on ends as it will tend to rotate and negate all that you had gained. I have about 70.5 degree on head tube angle. I went with the 51mm offset.
    So, it's desirable to increase the HTA to 70.5? It seems I would want to maintain as close to possible the 69 degree angle it was designed with. I'm not sure what the 100mm shock does to that though. I'll search for your thread and see if it addresses that.

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    Keep the bike at the factory HA using a 120mm fork with the proper offset. The benefit of the ASRc is the fact that the bike pedals and climbs so effeciently with the 120mm setup and it makes the bike more capable when descending which is where you'll put time into other competitors if your racing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nyrdrms View Post
    Yes, I have it right. Eye to Eye measurement is now 167mm instead of 165. The effect depends upon the suspension ratio of shock travel vs rear wheel travel. 102/38.1=2.677. So for every 1mm of eye to eye change you will get 2.677mm change at the rear wheel, thus jacking up the bb and increasing the headtube/seatube angle. This may seem like a small change but it was needed since I am running 100mm fork. Of course you could go with larger tires and taller knobs but that increases tire weight and not something I want to do on a XC race machine.
    Where did you get the bushings to do this?

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    Here's mine:
    http://i.imgur.com/m6oKPeT.jpg (Not sure why the embed isn't working)
    Haven't weighed it yet, but it's lighter than my Epic was.

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    Yeti ASR Carbon-434.jpg
    My new ASR-TURQ.
    Fox Factory Talas 95-120
    New XT 1 X 11
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    Got my Giant seatpost and handlebars on while deciding on what to put on this beaut.

    Coming from an AnthemX29 this bike is very different and feels almost like a hardtail when standing pedaling. It's much faster going up or down standing or sitting. I've had 3 rides so far on tar, gravel and single track and love this bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tonytourist View Post
    Here's mine:
    http://i.imgur.com/m6oKPeT.jpg (Not sure why the embed isn't working)
    Haven't weighed it yet, but it's lighter than my Epic was.
    Care to share a list of parts?

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    Sure, let me see if I remember them all:
    Yeti ASR Carbon - size medium 2016
    DT Swiss OPM ODL Race - with lightweight remote
    Cane Creek 40 headset
    Fox Transfer 5" dropper post with Fox remote - might swap for Wolftooth
    SRAM XX1 Eagle
    Raceface Next SL crankset with 36T AB Oval
    Raceface BB
    Schwalbe Rocket Ron 2.2
    Nox Composite Skylines laced to Carbon Ti hubs with CX Rays - built by Ergott
    Sram Level Ultimates with SRAM 2 piece rotors (this was my major dilemma as I had thought about R1 Racing, but 2 of my friends with Yetis run them and I wanted to try something different)
    Berk Lupina saddle
    Kalloy Uno 80mm - Stealth from Fairwheel - might swap for Extralite stem just for bling
    Extralite Hyperbar 750mm
    Extralite Black Lock axles
    Alligator I Link Minis for shifter, dropper, remote lockout
    ESI Extra Chunky - I have some lighter foam grips but couldn't be bothered to glue them on when I was assembling the bike.
    Crank Brothers 11 Ti pedals
    Carbon Ti seatpost collar

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