I'm personally a fan of the sb66 design over the ASR. I'm actually in seriously considering purchasing the sb66 race alloy myself. I like the alloy for 2 reasons: way cheaper and I'm just not a huge fan of the idea of a carbon moutain bike. Lets face it, our bikes get dinged from all sorts of debris from the trail and carbon doesnt have the same hardness or impact resistance as Al. Not to mention that if debris does puncture the carbon it has a higher likelihood of failing big time as opposed to just denting. I don't have much evidence at all to back all that up but those are just my feelings.
Those aren't similar bikes at all. The SB is going to suck for XC racing, the ASR is going to suck for AM riding. Decide what you want to do with it; no one can answer that for you.
The ASR5c is kind of in-between...
I'm curious as to why you think the ASR-5 will suck for AM riding.
Do you cleanly divide Trail and AM and feel the Asr5 is more XC/trail? I'm asking because Yeti lists the ASR5 and 5c as AM bikes.
@KevinGT-The ASR and the ASR5 are two different bikes. The ASR is a 4" XC race bike, The ASR5 is a 5" All Mountain bike. Much different geometry between the two.
The ASR-5 is an all mountain shredder. Maybe JohnP would like to weigh in, but as far as comparing it with the SB66......the SB66 has a bit slacker angles, allowing the rider to go bigger, but the ASR-5 is right in the All Mountain sweet spot. Climbs like a beast and loves to go down fast.
The ASR is a completely different animal than the SB66. Buy an SB66 and you will crash less.
Ah, I read it wrong. I thought he was looking at the ASR-5C not the ASR-C. My mistake!
I'm actually looking at the Alloy ASR-5 as an XC/trail bike but I'm a tiny bit worried about the AM geometry. I've only ever ridden 71deg HTA and don't do a lot of big air stuff or drops.
$1099 for an alloy ASR-5 seems like a good deal but they are going fast! Only 2 left in my size and color. Decisions decisions...
The ASR-5 pedals extremely well. As good as any bike I've ever ridden. What concerns you?
My only concern is the HTA. I'm used to 71 deg and have never ridden anything other than that. I'm not sure how much of a difference 3 deg will make but having not ridden one, it's a small concern.
Originally Posted by smellurfingers
I guess I'm a little concerned about the weight, having ridden nothing but HT's all my life but I'm not fast enough, light enough, or pro enough to worry about 3-4 lbs. of weight on a bike when I haven't raced since 1994.
I've never ridden a bike with a 71 degree head angle. I can't imagine that it's very confidence inspiring. Todays frames are slacker than they have ever been before, but upgrades in technology has bikes pedaling better than ever. I think you'll find yourself pleasantly surprised with the ASR5, especially at speed.
I'd bet that once you ride a slacker bike for an hour or 2, the steep bike your used to will feel awful, like you'd endo dropping off a 2" curb. After riding a 575, I had to put a longer fork on my ARC because it just felt too steep.
Originally Posted by KevinGT
Back in the day mtbs had super-steep head tubes because that's what road bikes have, and no one knew any better (if it's fast on pavement, it must be fast on dirt, right?).
Thanks Joules, You where spot on.
Originally Posted by Joules
Rode the SB95 (sure it is a 29er) liked the ride of it but I did notice the bike can climb but not as good as the ASRC. I could not imagine going six inch travel.
Being a 29er I noticed it was harder to chuck around in the corners and had me running wide in corners.
So it is settled I am going back to the ASR Carbon
Thanks guys for your input
The ASR is a completely different animal than the SB66. Buy an SB66 and you will crash less.[/QUOTE]
Well maybe i should buy it then. I have had some big crashes. I have had more crashes in the last three months then the previous two years