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    SB95: which offset fork?

    I've purchased a Large SB95A and am comtemplating the choice...

    It will be a RS Pike 140mm Solo Air, however; this fork is avaible in both 48 and 51mm offset.

    What is the way to go?
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    If it makes you feel any better, I went with the 51mm offset Pike. Except I went 150mm It's been a great fit thus far.

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    + 2 on the 51 mm offset , it makes the steering feel light and quick with the shorter trail number.

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    Hey Colin, what is the weight of your SB as it is set up in your pic?

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    28 lbs give or take an ounce. I don't have it setup exactly like that anymore so I'm going of memory. I sent the CCDBair back before I even rode it because that was right when they announced the climb switch version, so I'll wait for that one.

    I can tell you that switching back to the stock Fox shock and with Rocket Ron 2.25 SS Tubeless it weighs 27.09 pounds ready to rip.

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    Thanks, i've got a similar setup coming, sram XO1/XX!, Enve AM. Thinking about a thomson dropper.

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    Colin, a few questions for you.

    Regarding the 51mm offset Pike, have you noticed any decrease in stability with the change? Also, why did you opt for the 150mm versus the 140mm?

    I'm running a 2013 140mm Fox CTD currently and find myself wishing (often) that the bike steered better in the tight twisty stuff on my local trails. I've also read that the A-C measurement on the Pike is less than the Fox so I was thinking that the 140mm Pike with 51 mm offset would steepen things just enough to improve the steering.
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    Well, long story short, I had pre-ordered both a 140mm and 150mm so I had the benefit of having both in my hands to compare. I pulled my Fox 34 140mm out and lined them all up. What I found was surprising as my Fox was the tallest A-C of them all. Also surprising was that the 140mm and 150mm Pikes weighed the same at 4.3 lbs. So, I figured that if I've been riding around for months on the Fox 34 and it's taller than the Pike 150mm...why not. In regards to the 140mm, it was around 17mm shorter than what I've been riding so I thought it might be too drastic of a change and since it weighed the same as the 150mm...why not

    What I found is that the Pike is 100x a better fork than the Fox. Very plush and supple, uses all the travel yet doesn't dive and bob when out of the saddle and while braking. The absolute best fork I've had the pleasure of riding.

    You have the same Fox as I had, don't hesitate in getting the Pike. It's that good. Night and day difference.

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    So I can have more travel and the front end won't be as high?

    Mind blown
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    Quote Originally Posted by Colin+M View Post
    Well, long story short, I had pre-ordered both a 140mm and 150mm so I had the benefit of having both in my hands to compare. I pulled my Fox 34 140mm out and lined them all up. What I found was surprising as my Fox was the tallest A-C of them all. Also surprising was that the 140mm and 150mm Pikes weighed the same at 4.3 lbs. So, I figured that if I've been riding around for months on the Fox 34 and it's taller than the Pike 150mm...why not. In regards to the 140mm, it was around 17mm shorter than what I've been riding so I thought it might be too drastic of a change and since it weighed the same as the 150mm...why not

    What I found is that the Pike is 100x a better fork than the Fox. Very plush and supple, uses all the travel yet doesn't dive and bob when out of the saddle and while braking. The absolute best fork I've had the pleasure of riding.

    You have the same Fox as I had, don't hesitate in getting the Pike. It's that good. Night and day difference.
    Finally pulled the trigger on a 150mm today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hillharman View Post
    Finally pulled the trigger on a 150mm today.
    What offset did you go with? The 51 or the standard?
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    I got the 51mm mainly because I had the Fox before it, which is 51mm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TwoNeener View Post
    So I can have more travel and the front end won't be as high?

    Mind blown
    Wait til you ride it, then you really will have your mind blown

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    Out of curiosity, I called Yeti this morning and, for what it's worth, they said to go with the standard version of the fork.
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    What made you choose the Solo Air over Dual Position?

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    Quote Originally Posted by addATX View Post
    What made you choose the Solo Air over Dual Position?
    Personally, I don't see the point. I ride a Tallboy LTc, but I'm sure this applies to the Yeti, too: A well designed ~5" travel 29er should climb well without having to lower the fork. I've found this to be the case, in general. I think for suspension designs that tend to wallow when climbing, a lowered fork is more useful, but I wouldn't ride a bike that wallows when climbing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hillharman View Post
    Personally, I don't see the point. I ride a Tallboy LTc, but I'm sure this applies to the Yeti, too: A well designed ~5" travel 29er should climb well without having to lower the fork. I've found this to be the case, in general. I think for suspension designs that tend to wallow when climbing, a lowered fork is more useful, but I wouldn't ride a bike that wallows when climbing.
    +2 , I really dislike adjustable travel forks , I have a 6.3" bike and the 5" Yeti and I can climb fine , no need for problems.

    I get more adjustable forks in the shop that I convert back to Float or solo air for guys and they all agree that their new fixed travel fork works so much better than the adjustable ever could .

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    How are the Pikes feeling guys? I'm close to swapping out my Rev 130 for either a Pike 140 or 150.

    Just was hoping for an update on either travel position and either offset please. Thanks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by bpnic View Post
    How are the Pikes feeling guys? I'm close to swapping out my Rev 130 for either a Pike 140 or 150.

    Just was hoping for an update on either travel position and either offset please. Thanks!
    I just put the Pike on mine and I can not believe how good the dam thing works , ( I went 150 travel ) you can make it what ever travel you want just like any fork but I really like the taller ft ends slacker angles and higher BB .
    The pike is the first air fork that I really liked right out the box , it feels very much like a coil fork except without the weight.
    I found the 51 mm offset makes a 29er have that 26er playful feel poping around AM riding , and when on the XC trails it really gives it a light cornering carve and hook up that is kinda hard to explain , .......3 or so years ago I really hated the heavy 29er feel that the 44 mm offset gave the bikes , when I road a fisher trek bike I knew that the 51 was the correct direction for the 29er.

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    I'm on the 140 29er Pike on my SB 95. I went with the standard 46mm offset.

    I love it.

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    I just ordered a Pike 150 (51mm) for my 95a. Should match my otherwise burly build nicely.
    I'll post pictures when bolted up-

    Thx for the help guys.
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    The Pike is so good , it will spoil you .

    It adds such a controlled feel to the bike and it lets you get away with mistakes that would otherwise cost you .

    You will love the dam thing

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    Quote Originally Posted by TwoNeener View Post
    Out of curiosity, I called Yeti this morning and, for what it's worth, they said to go with the standard version of the fork.
    I think the standard is actually 46, but Jenson site list it as no offset?

    I have a 95 carbon build in progress, and the 51 Solo Airs are back ordered. Is it worth the wait for the 51 offset, or fine to get the dual air 51? Does anyone have the dual air and love it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by epictrail View Post
    Is think the standard is actually 46? I have a 95 carbon build in progress, and the 51 Solo Airs are backordered. Is it worth the wait for the 51 or fine to get the dual air? Does anyone have the dual air and love it?

    The all black definitely trumps the white.
    I've got the 46mm offset Solo on my 95a. It's awesome. Can't tell a difference in the offset vs whatever the stock Fox 34 offset was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by addATX View Post
    I've got the 46mm offset Solo on my 95a. It's awesome. Can't tell a difference in the offset vs whatever the stock Fox 34 offset was.
    The standard version Fox 34 is 51 mm offset, the 51 has become the standard offset on 29er bikes .
    So when somebody says "Go with the standard version of the fork" they mean go with the 51 mm offset on the 29er .

    If you really want that 26er flickable it is nice , especially if you run a longer travel fork , I run a 150mm Pike in the front , the longer fork and slacker head angle actually increase the "trail number" so the 51 mm offset helps shorten up the "trail number" and keep the bike flickable .

    If you ever road some of the first 29ers with the 42 or 44 mm offset you know how slow those things flopped the front end around

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    Quote Originally Posted by kelstr View Post
    The standard version Fox 34 is 51 mm offset, the 51 has become the standard offset on 29er bikes .
    So when somebody says "Go with the standard version of the fork" they mean go with the 51 mm offset on the 29er .
    Interesting, I didn't realize that. Would be very curious about riding both offset versions back-to-back.

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    Last summer I ended up getting the standard 150mm Pike (without the 51 mm offset). It has been a huge upgrade over the Fox. I've been very pleased.
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    Any other input regarding 51 vs 46 offset? After reading these posts, I'm still a bit confused as to what the stock fox fork has (mines a 2014 on an SB95c)? Looking to upgrade to a Pike this spring and am leaning towards the 150 51mm offset.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trumpus View Post
    Any other input regarding 51 vs 46 offset? After reading these posts, I'm still a bit confused as to what the stock fox fork has (mines a 2014 on an SB95c)? Looking to upgrade to a Pike this spring and am leaning towards the 150 51mm offset.
    Look at kelstr post's again. I went with 51 offset 150 and love it. All Fox 34 29 are 51 or G2, that is the 29 standard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bpnic View Post
    I just ordered a Pike 150 (51mm) for my 95a. Should match my otherwise burly build nicely.
    I'll post pictures when bolted up-

    Thx for the help guys.
    I went 150 with the 51mm. Perfect.
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    To through you even father down this rabit whole. This is one of the better explanations I've seen.
    Art's Cyclery Blog » Ask a Mechanic: 29er Forks ? 46mm or 51mm Offset?

    I went with the prevailing opinion (51 mm), but I will never truly know the difference without trying the 46. I've only had 3 rides on my SB-95C, and only the 150 pike.

    I will say I got the Travel Adjust, and would pass on it next time. I do not care for the lower 120 setting on the yeti, and I have not had any issues climbing with the full 150 on a steep pitch. The 120 feels wrong on the bike. Maybe given to the fact that the RS is not as tall as Fox fork axle to crown.

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    ...ok, so for those with the 150 51 mm offset, here's what I was told by a dealer who I was going to purchase one from:

    Sorry I quoted you above for the 51 140 or 46 140 & 150. The 51 offset only comes in 140, so you will need to add a 150 shaft $35. If you want us to install it, that's another $20.
    Is this true? Did you have to either special order the 51 mm offset 150 fork or pay extra for another part + installation?

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    Quote Originally Posted by trumpus View Post
    ...ok, so for those with the 150 51 mm offset, here's what I was told by a dealer who I was going to purchase one from:



    Is this true? Did you have to either special order the 51 mm offset 150 fork or pay extra for another part + installation?

    I ordered my 29" 150 51 without paying any extra, or special ordering it.

    Jenson USA has it---> Rockshox Pike RCT3 29" Fork 2014 > Components > Forks > Suspension Forks | Jenson USA Online Bike Shop
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    Quote Originally Posted by trumpus View Post
    Is this true? Did you have to either special order the 51 mm offset 150 fork or pay extra for another part + installation?
    me either.

    Pike SA RCT3 150 w/51mm offset staright from the supplier to my LBS to me.

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    +3 , I did not have a problem or any extra charges for the 51 mm offset 150 either .

    When I first ordered it there was a longer wait ( months ), but now they are not hard to get , one of my riding buddies just got one for his TBLT and he got it straight away from Art' Cycle , I also got mine form Art's .

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    I think the deal is this guy gets some kind of amazing deal on the lower travel ones and converts? He is asking like $750 for the pike plus shipping, plus another $55 for parts and installation to convert the 140 to 150. Still ends up less than a 150 straight from Arts but is it legit? Dunno....

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    Quote Originally Posted by trumpus View Post
    I think the deal is this guy gets some kind of amazing deal on the lower travel ones and converts? He is asking like $750 for the pike plus shipping, plus another $55 for parts and installation to convert the 140 to 150. Still ends up less than a 150 straight from Arts but is it legit? Dunno....
    Your probably correct on him getting a deal on the 140s, If I remember correctly mine was $1005. and then I used the 20% Arts coupon of the day and got it to my door for $852. or so .

    I think you can almost always get a coupon .

    The other thing I like about the 150-160 stanchions is they have the sag gradients etched on the right stanchion leg. ( its just nice to always look and see your sag in different situations, and all the stanchion are the same length other than the gradients )

    Then of course the other issue I have is I do not want anybody wrenching on my new fork and slamming a different length air tube in it , its not a big deal but I want it clean, I want new crush washers on the lowers, and I want it carefully assembled with "Slick Honey" and I would like the correct amount of the correct oil in the lowers, and I would like the rebound adjuster to be installed correctly .

    But you can see from me being OCD about my bike it did not help me get a bad frame set warrantied out ,

    If I was to buy that 140 , I would have them just send the 150 mm air tube with the fork and then I could have the 140 and 150 and I could do my own work so I would know what I had

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    SB95: which offset fork?

    Good advice. I'm the same way. If I can find a coupon for Art's I'll just go that route!

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    Quote Originally Posted by epictrail View Post
    To through you even father down this rabit whole. This is one of the better explanations I've seen.
    Art's Cyclery Blog » Ask a Mechanic: 29er Forks ? 46mm or 51mm Offset?

    I went with the prevailing opinion (51 mm), but I will never truly know the difference without trying the 46. I've only had 3 rides on my SB-95C, and only the 150 pike.

    I will say I got the Travel Adjust, and would pass on it next time. I do not care for the lower 120 setting on the yeti, and I have not had any issues climbing with the full 150 on a steep pitch. The 120 feels wrong on the bike. Maybe given to the fact that the RS is not as tall as Fox fork axle to crown.

    Very interesting thread.

    I am interested in the SB95c mainly because I thought they used the regular offset. 51 is not standard in my experience, Fisher/Trek and then Ibis are the ones that championed that, and the ripley got lots of press for it. I loved everything about the ripley but that, so looking for a 29er designed w/ a standard offset in mind. The guy that was told by yeti to get the stardard 46 sounded most right to me.
    hum, more confused.

    i really didn't like the steering of the ibis w 51, and have decided this offset tweaking is not for me. dang.

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    also, I think this guy got the straight answer.

    Quote Originally Posted by TwoNeener View Post
    Out of curiosity, I called Yeti this morning and, for what it's worth, they said to go with the standard version of the fork.
    I"m pretty sure 51 is not standard, it has changed since ibis and trek have pushed that number. before that, which the 95 was, 46 was standard. I have my shop calling yeti monday AM to make sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by holiday View Post
    I"m pretty sure 51 is not standard, it has changed since ibis and trek have pushed that number. before that, which the 95 was, 46 was standard. I have my shop calling yeti monday AM to make sure.

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    OK,
    I was right and wrong. 51 wasn't standard, and were hard to get at that time. but, Yeti did use hte 51mm offset. others were still 46, but yeti was early.
    so, Maybe it wans't the offset that bothered me on the ibis ripley, because I rode the original sb95 a lot and loved it.

    Thinking of ordering this week. I hear they are going away from the SB, a reason to wait, or a reason to get one asap... hum.

    thx,
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